Sakigawa it to me...

[Tom Tit Tot]

I'm new here, so my profound apologies if this has been addressed on another thread. However...

I've read and recieved some conflicting information about how the tsuru is threaded into the sakigawa. Basically just wondering if it's better for the tsuru to come OVER the leather and behind/across then out, or UNDER and in front/across? Has anyone done any testing in this regard?

Obviously I will continue to tie it in the exact same way my sensei has told me to, but I'm interested in how everyone here does it.

Thanks

[bullet08]

I'm new here, so my profound apologies if this has been addressed on another thread. However...

I've read and recieved some conflicting information about how the tsuru is threaded into the sakigawa. Basically just wondering if it's better for the tsuru to come OVER the leather and behind/across then out, or UNDER and in front/across? Has anyone done any testing in this regard?

Obviously I will continue to tie it in the exact same way my sensei has told me to, but I'm interested in how everyone here does it.

Thanks

so far it has been cheaper for me to hand my $20 over and get cheapie shinai that came with all the leather bits. never had to worry about how the sakigawas was tied on.

pete

[Ignatz]

. . .I've read and recieved some conflicting information about how the tsuru is threaded into the sakigawa. Basically just wondering if it's better for the tsuru to come OVER the leather and behind/across then out, or UNDER and in front/across? Has anyone done any testing in this regard?

Obviously I will continue to tie it in the exact same way my sensei has told me to, but I'm interested in how everyone here does it.

I have them both ways. I have always done it with the string over but recently people have told me that is not safe because if the string breaks the whole shinai could come apart and put someone's eye out.
I have never broken a string but with shinai that have the string under I have split the leather (but the shinai did not come apart).
Until I'm told by shimpan or sensei I can't have the string over I will probably still tie it that way.

[dohrt]

Just the other day, I saw a tsuru break for the first time - it was one of those where the attacker's shinai ended up going between the staves of the defender's shinai, resulting in it getting stuck. When they wapped the floor to break it free, the tsuru broke. I was shocked, but they kind of laughed and the attacker just grabbed a backup shinai and they continued.

[Po5i]

Just the other day, I saw a tsuru break for the first time - it was one of those where the attacker's shinai ended up going between the staves of the defender's shinai, resulting in it getting stuck. When they wapped the floor to break it free, the tsuru broke. I was shocked, but they kind of laughed and the attacker just grabbed a backup shinai and they continued.

It could be very unlucky if that happens when doing shiai

[yohed55]

It could be very unlucky if that happens when doing shiai

Is there a penalty if your shinai breaks?

[Halcyon]

Is there a penalty if your shinai breaks?
No. If the judges see it first they will call "yame" and make you change your shinai. If you see it first, you can just raise your hand and call for a time out and then show it to the head judge. Just make sure you don't touch the shinai blade before you show it to the judge. THAT could be a hansoku.

[Super Kodachi]

If your shinai breaks, be it take, suru, or sakigawa

If your men gane suddenly falls off for no apparent reason

If your bougu becomes loose....

Dont panic. As Halycon said everythings fine as long as you clearly raise your hand, move away from your opponent and wait for the Shinpan to shout Yame.

You are allowed to stop to fix any of these problems, and it happens to all of us at times. I've had plenty of shinai break during shiai and shiai Geiko. I've even seen zekken fall off!

Try not to touch the cutting edge as that could be deemed hansoku, and what ever you do dont walk off to get a new shinai, turn to the centre to sonkyo or turn away from your opponent before the Shinpan has called Yame.

I've seen this happen a lot, where someone raises the hand, assumes that yame has been called when it hasn't trots off to the middle to sonkyo and rei and gets cut a big fat juicy men!

SHOBU ARI!!!!!

Shiai over.... :hurt: