I'd like to ask a question?

[rebeccam1987]

I wanst sure where to put so a thread where you could post everything sounds the best
anyone know of any places that sharpen katana's abouve 6 inches long in the mancheschter u.k sort of area
I'd do it myself but I'm more worried of damaging the blade
its only stainless steel
(insert stainless steel doesn't make a real katana argument here)
I've got some pretty decent knifes and swords in my collection all of them stainless steel and all of them can cut pretty much everything trust me you dont want to meet my kitchen knifes
anywho
It did come with a rough edge that needs a bit of work I did some work with a whetstone (or however you spell that)
and is now alot better than it was but needs taking up a level however I'm a bit worried about puttig fine glass paper to it
so any links suggestions or whatever would be greatly appriciated

[ShinKenshi]

Well that would all deped on what kind of katana it is. If it's a wall hanger, don't bother. If it's an iaito, again don't bother because it is meant to be dull. If it is in fact a shinken, then the best thing you can do for it is to send it to a professional rather than doing it yourself because you'll only end up damaging the blade. I'm guessing it isn't a shinken because according to you, "it's only stainless steel." Some pictures of your katana would help though.

[Lone Kitten]

wouldn't sharpen a wallhanger - they're dangerous when they're sharpened and bits can break/flake off which really ruins the finish.

[rebeccam1987]

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/RebeccaMaynard/my%20pics/?action=view&current=PICT0014.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch6

[rebeccam1987]

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/RebeccaMaynard/my%20pics/?action=view&current=PICT0014.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch6


a link to a pic of the katana

[rebeccam1987]

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/RebeccaMaynard/my%20pics/?action=view&current=PICT0014.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch6


a link to a pic of the katana


oops i double posted

[pgsmith]

Sorry, but that's not a katana. That's a Hollywood inspired "Ninja Sword of Appalling Death and Destruction". :)

Please don't sharpen it, or any other stainless steel sword. Stainless steel makes good knives, but is too brittle to withstand the stress of being used for anything other than a wall ornament in sword lengths.

Thanks!

[rebeccam1987]

insert stainless steel doesn't make a real katana argument here)
I covered this one next person?

[pgsmith]

I covered this one next person?
Not with me you didn't. If you go ahead and sharpen it, you'll end up covering it with blood. Doesn't really bother me if you do since Darwin has to get his work in somehow, but it's pretty stupid all the same.

Next person? :)

[rebeccam1987]

hey its not a real sword if u dont get blood on it just ask a gerker

as for your stainless steel argument razors have the best edges in the world

[Metsuke]

I don't believe it's worth sharpening, but if you feel you must it's your katana, you should know how, or learn to sharpen the blade yourself.

http://www.thaitsuki.com/accessories.shtml

You will find a good maintenance kit there, as well as some katana worth considering replacing the stainless steel decorative piece with.

as for your stainless steel argument razors have the best edges in the world, yes, but how long do they keep their edge? Thickness is also a major factor in razor blades as well.

[rebeccam1987]

sighs npo one reads the first post huh I have the equipment to do it myself In just dont want to I'm more afraid ill just grind the blade down till theres nothing left
i was hoping someone might find a link for a local professional

[rebeccam1987]

http://users.ameritech.net/knives/knives2.htm

[Metsuke]

sighs npo one reads the first post huh I have the equipment to do it myself In just dont want to I'm more afraid ill just grind the blade down till theres nothing left
i was hoping someone might find a link for a local professional


Sorry but this is the discipline of steel, it's a poor carpenter who can't sharpen his own saw. So what if you do wear it down, if it cost you too much to risk damaging it, you were robbed. You will get it right long before you do irreparable damage to the blade. Keep the stone wet, and your sharpening stroke clean. Be patient, don't bear down on the blade with all your weight. Take your time, enjoy the simplicity of the action, you might find it as very relaxing.

I personally don't feel wall pieces should be given the edge of a shinken, but to each their own.

[ScottUK]

hey its not a real sword if u dont get blood on it just ask a gerkerA Gurhka, you mean? :D The drawing of blood every time the Kukri is taken from its scabbard is a fallacy:

http://www.army.mod.uk/brigade_of_gurkhas/history/kukri_history.htm

Foolish child. Read, think, post. That order.


as for your stainless steel argument razors have the best edges in the worldWhat good is a sword if it sharp but breaks (due to poor tempering, like many cheap pig-stickers are) at the first sign of action? You may as well sharpen a steel ruler and play samurai with that.

[Lone Kitten]

what are you going to use the sharpened katana for anyways? Please promise me you're not going to try iai or anything with it. I know of far too many people who have seriously injured, disfigured or even badly maimed themselves by messing around with swords when they have no training. We all have at least the basics when it comes to swords, and we ALL have had it drilled into us that you treat a sword with RESPECT. Not meaning to get at you here love, but I read your profile and it says that you don't do any martial arts. If you MUST please read this before hand http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/care/handling.htm

[ScottUK]

Please promise me you're not going to try iai or anything with it.I disagree. Got a video camera and BUPA cover? :D

[Lone Kitten]

heh heh! Like some of those daft americans on youtube - or the twits on myspace who give their occupation as "samurai" tee hee hee - STOOOPID!

just been doing my research - i doubt any professional worth his salt would sharpen a katana - after all the killings/maimings tha have been in the news. As well as that, if the police stopped you on your way to the place with the katana you would be arrested because it's an offensive weapon (and a blade, and after all the media attention about knifings etc...) - even if we just have shinai in the car on the way to kendo the BKA is advising us to have our membership books with us at all times... less said the better!

BUPA cover - good idea, i'd hate to hack my arm off on the NHS!

[Ignatz]

heh heh! Like some of those daft americans on youtube
Right, like they didn't invent STOOOPID in England.:puzzled:

[Lone Kitten]

ok, point taken, i retract my racist slur!

you just have to look at our royal family!

[Anjin-san]

This sounds exactly like the screwaround thread (http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7560) me and gibbo posted awhile back.

More to come, stay tuned kids!

[ScottUK]

More to come, stay tuned kids!Bring it on...

Shinkenshi - you ready? :D

[Paburo]

lol, it's a NINJATO. the deadly katana of the ancient ninja.... :ninja:

but everybody knows only a ninja master can sharpen a ninja master sword. hattori hanzo, for instance. you seen kill bill? unfortunately, he doesn't live in the UK... you'll have to go to japan to get the job done. like the bride :bandit:

[Dr. Hellsing]

tsk tsk this is what happens when u play w/ a wall hanger
:dead::dead::dead::dead:

[Omnis]

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/RebeccaMaynard/my%20pics/?action=view&current=Image2.jpg&refPage=20&imgAnch=imgAnch34

GO YOU!

[ScottUK]

No, no - GO YOU!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/RebeccaMaynard/my%20pics/PICT0048.jpg

[ScottUK]

Rebecca, I am worried for you. I have been reading through some of your avatars:

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/RebeccaMaynard/gothic%20avatars/?start=all

You ok? Can I get you a cup of tea or something?

[Mr. T.]

Rebecca, I am worried for you. I have been reading through some of your avatars:
http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/RebeccaMaynard/gothic%20avatars/?start=all
You ok? Can I get you a cup of tea or something?

She's not plannin seppuku is she?

Now a serious responce:

I wanst sure where to put so a thread where you could post everything sounds the best
anyone know of any places that sharpen katana's abouve 6 inches long in the mancheschter u.k sort of area
I'd do it myself but I'm more worried of damaging the blade
its only stainless steel
(insert stainless steel doesn't make a real katana argument here)
I've got some pretty decent knifes and swords in my collection all of them stainless steel and all of them can cut pretty much everything trust me you dont want to meet my kitchen knifes
anywho
It did come with a rough edge that needs a bit of work I did some work with a whetstone (or however you spell that)
and is now alot better than it was but needs taking up a level however I'm a bit worried about puttig fine glass paper to it
so any links suggestions or whatever would be greatly appriciated

Hi Rebecca (?),
Sharpening a sword yourself is never a good idea, unless you know what you’re doing. First of all, you sound like someone who has no clue what to do with a sharp sword, so why sharpen it? Sharpening the damn thing only makes it dangerous if you have no training. Even if you don’t do any (formal) training with it.
Second. That’s not a katana, it’s (as someone mentioned before) one of those “ninja-to” knockoffs. It’s fake, the ninja-to is a modern (Hollywood) invention.
My third point is that stainless steel aren’t real swords (to me). There is a reason for me saying that. Stainless steel is weak. Also, as written may times before, it will shatter of break at the habaki. Maybe not during the first cut, but it will shatter at some point. A steel blade (shinken) is a lot tougher. It will only get damaged if you apply improper techniques. In other words stainless is dangerous.


hey its not a real sword if u dont get blood on it just ask a gerker
as for your stainless steel argument razors have the best edges in the world

The whole blood thing is BS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword
(I know it’s only wiki, but I use it to make point here)

As for the razors, most of the time carbon steel is used in razors. It’s cheaper and they stay sharp longer.

The only advise I can give you is this. Keep your wall hanger where it belongs. On the wall. If you want to buy a sharp sword, start saving some money, these things are expensive, especially the ones of better quality (PC (crap) € 200, nihon-to (really good swords) € 5000, and up). If you want to cut things with a sword, find a shinkendo dojo or iai dojo (if you want to lose some fingers). Iai and a sharp sword are not a good combo for beginners or those who have no training at all. Please forget about the sharp sword, it’s just asking for a trip to the hospital.

[kensenbatusaii]

heh heh! Like some of those daft americans on youtube - or the twits on myspace who give their occupation as "samurai" tee hee hee - STOOOPID!

just been doing my research - i doubt any professional worth his salt would sharpen a katana - after all the killings/maimings tha have been in the news. As well as that, if the police stopped you on your way to the place with the katana you would be arrested because it's an offensive weapon (and a blade, and after all the media attention about knifings etc...) - even if we just have shinai in the car on the way to kendo the BKA is advising us to have our membership books with us at all times... less said the better!

BUPA cover - good idea, i'd hate to hack my arm off on the NHS!

not nice

thing to say

[kensenbatusaii]

Right, like they didn't invent STOOOPID in England.:puzzled:


you are

not an american

[Mr. T.]

you are

not an american

Nope, he's a citizen of the United States of North America. :rolleyes:

[Lone Kitten]

hee hee hee! She, actually! Honestly kensen, i already apologised for my racist slur! I'm British but wish i wasn't - i am equally disparaging of everyone!

and Rebecca... DAMN! With avatars on your site like that you project an image of a severely depressed, even manically so, person!

Sharpen that katana, love, and you're a muppet listen to the people! The guy who used to teach me iai would sever my hand for me rather than letting me do it myself by sharpening a wallhanger - dear lord, people just DON'T listen do they.

[Lone Kitten]

http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/RebeccaMaynard/my%20pics/?action=view&current=Image2.jpg&refPage=20&imgAnch=imgAnch34

why are you holding the blade?

[Mr. T.]

I keep apologizing to you Kitten. I though he meant Ignatz. Besides not being able to use [enter] correctly, he also isn't capable to use the quote button.

[Lone Kitten]

sorry sweetie, it's early and i haven't finished my caffiene dose yet. don't mind my severely fuzzy brain

[kenji_71_06]

I tried using my flea market katana to cut some rolled tatami with my roommate, mind you, this one is at least full tang, while his katana sliced cleanly through, mine just bent, he started laughing and I was mortified. I learned that everything with a long curvy blade is not a katana. If attacked you might have more success just bashing your attacker over the head with the handle, however if your blade has less than a half tang with a bolt welded to it, you might just break the weld loose and make them mad. Either way, I'm not sure it's worth sharpening, but good luck with the sword twirling thing..

It's early and I'm only on my first cup of go go juice. And Kitten, way to go on the equal opportunity racism. It's only fair to be equally disparaging of everyone.

[Lone Kitten]

It's early and I'm only on my first cup of go go juice. And Kitten, way to go on the equal opportunity racism. It's only fair to be equally disparaging of everyone.

trust me love, i've lived all over, even in Japan no -one's perfect!

[yohed55]

I don't believe it's worth sharpening, but if you feel you must it's your katana, you should know how, or learn to sharpen the blade yourself.
http://www.thaitsuki.com/accessories.shtml


Great..... Now I have even more shinken to gawk at online.

[kenji_71_06]

Great..... Now I have even more shinken to gawk at online.

Look at the links I just posted in famous swords, some good reading, lots of gawking to be had at some amaising old shinken's

http://www.hi-net.zaq.ne.jp/osaru/e_midokoro.htm

[yohed55]

:shocked: Now I have like 9 windows of shinkens open.....

[ShinKenshi]

Bring it on...

Shinkenshi - you ready? :D*Groan* I thought that was dead and burried!!!!!!!

At any rate, Rebecca, that sword of yours is not worth sharpening. It will damage the blade and you stand a good chance of getting hurt if you ever use it. Could you post some pics of the tsuka please? For that matter, maybe even showing us the tang just as final confirmation that it's a wall hanger. As for the whether or not stainless steel makes the best blades, I'd ask that you compare the metal composition of an authentic shinken vs. a stainless steel blade. Bottom line is that it is a really bad idea and not worth your time to sharpen that sword.

[rottunpunk]

she hasnt been back in a while. you didnt all make her really upset when she obviously suffers from depression, so she had to commit seppuku with a blunt wallhanger did you?
bad eggs.
we dont need a close up of the tsuka, the long view quite clearly shows a nice plastic kashira. :D
:p

[Lone Kitten]

i think we scared her off... nasty people that we are!