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rottunpunk
2nd June 2003, 09:59 PM
ive been told theres a do with dragons on-where i cant find the link or post
anyhoos im back from coursework and exams and stuff-all of which went wrong
(missed a very important case out of one of the ec law problem questions-oops)
how is everybody
and wheres this do and can i have it?
:p
chidokan
3rd June 2003, 01:42 AM
its in this issue of kendo world and you would have seen it if you werent so idle and went to practise... its too flash for you anyway. No doubt it will have to be purple as well...:rolleyes:
Tim Hamilton
'I always answer back, mumble under my breath, and have the last word' :- Rottunpunk at her last visit to my dojo....
Confound
3rd June 2003, 07:11 AM
Tim,
Wouldn't it be a bit too flashy for anyone? I can't imagine anyone in a dou with big dragons on it... Sounds a bit tacky. Maybe I'm not doing the concept justice.
c
amatsuda
3rd June 2003, 07:43 AM
http://www.shogun-bogu.de/images/dodragon.jpg
Neil Gendzwill
3rd June 2003, 07:58 AM
Is it just me, or does it look like that dragon has been smoking a little dope?
rottenpunk, I'd stick with yer basic black.
itazura
3rd June 2003, 08:05 AM
Yep, that is one dreamy eyed dragon. Roll another one....
Looks like an invitation to get beat upon. I love hitting peoples' fancy doh.
hammock
3rd June 2003, 08:39 AM
don't listen to them.
that is one tight do.
if you get it, i support you ;)
IRJ
3rd June 2003, 09:08 AM
Hmm, looks kinda cheap, low quality artwork.
Confound
3rd June 2003, 05:03 PM
I'm a great fan of cherry tree bark dou, but this dragon thing is a bit much. If you want a nice dou, why not go for an option that won't make you look silly when you're much older? Besides, itazura is right, everyone loves to whack away at a nice dou. It's one of the sadistic tendencies of kendouka the world over.
c
junkyman
4th June 2003, 01:51 AM
dude, you might as well paint HIT ME across the front of that do!
Inouye02
4th June 2003, 11:49 AM
the best is a newbie wearing bogu for the 1st time , CRACK ! right across the front of it , make sure you plenty of Asai Sensei sex wax on your shinai..
kendomushi
4th June 2003, 12:20 PM
Not a very aggressive or strong looking dragon. Maybe putting it on a purple background and making it the official do of a new-half dojo would cause it to look right.
Even if its good quality, the inate desire to strike a new or different looking do would ruin the image in short order. The constant detailed care and poetential repair needed to keep it looking new would make it more of an annoyance than its worth I think.
junkyman
4th June 2003, 12:29 PM
sex wax! is that what he uses? I always end up with these big thick wax stripes after I practice with him.
Inouye02
4th June 2003, 12:32 PM
thats it junkyman , its even on his carbon shinai too ...
Hai_hai
4th June 2003, 12:51 PM
Dragon do... I think it's more like Dragon don't. Honey child, your do is like your eye shadow... you wanna look good, not cheap. M'kay?
rottunpunk
4th June 2003, 07:08 PM
thanx for the advise guys-i think it looks pretty
but western dragons (although not relevent to the genre) are harder than any chinese dragons
also im a punky student-the scruffier the better, maybe for cometitions looking pretty counts but its the person inside that matters, a cool trick might be to make a dou look worn thus decieving the opponent to think thats your weak spot when it isnt, but im not good enough for that, and why would anyone want to ruin a perfectly good dou...ill stop talking now....
what sort of paint and other materials would i need to maybe paint my own on my future cheap set ive been not spending my loan on for
just an idea-i like to be individual
:p
Hai_hai
5th June 2003, 12:12 AM
I do not know a lot about "do" painting but I do know a lot about fiberglass-surface painting in general,
1. you would need to prep the fiberglass (since you are getting a cheap set), which would entail sanding the surface lightly.
2. spray a layer of primer. The primer needs to be mixed with an additive that will allow the primer to flex without cracking. The additive is optional.
3. sand and re-prime and allow to dry
4. sand and re-prime and allow to dry
5. spray a layer of paint. THe paint needs to be mixed with an additive that will allow the paint to flex without cracking. You can find this additive at an automotive paint supplier. This additive is used by high-quality paint shops when painting, fiberglass, plastic or flexible-material auto or motorcycle body parts. Additive is not optional. Allow to dry.
6. sand and re-paint and allow to dry
7. sand and re-paint and allow to dry
8. sand and re-paint and allow to dry
9. spray clear-coat five to seven times allowing to dry between coats
This is quite expensive because it would require you to get an air compressor, a detail spray gun, high-quality paint, primer and clear-coat. Anyone can correct me if I am wrong. These are general steps, used by auto body or goalie mask painters, and you can look up more about it on your own. If you are wondering, why don't I just buy spray paint in a can and paint with that? Because the paint will remove extremely easily and your do will look like you painted it with a spray can with the original color showing beneath the scratched-up, painted color.
chidokan
5th June 2003, 12:32 AM
Dont encourage her PLEASE!!:(
I'lll now have nightmares dreaming of the disfigured do she'll turn up to practise in...:rolleyes: However I suppose I will have to beat it back into its normal colour...which appeals to me for some reason...:evil:
Tim Hamilton
Hongsermeier
5th June 2003, 12:53 AM
rotten...when I went to my first practice with a new do everyone lined up to take their shots. Wierd Kendo thing. I did beat them to the punch. Before practice I put about 5 coats of car wax on it. When it was hit the shinai simply slid off. Even affected the sound. Do is now 2 years old and has very small scuffs that are easily rubbed out with a new coat of wax.
Paburo
5th June 2003, 01:36 AM
but hongsermeier, that's sort of like suicide...
where did all the missed/slipped dou uchi go?
i'm guessing either headed towards your unprotected ribs or groin/waist area.
i hope you have a strong tare my friend.
Hongsermeier
5th June 2003, 01:53 AM
Since the strike goes from up to down, the shots slide off the bottom and end up on the tare. After two or three try's most people gave up. Lucky for me.
Hai_hai
13th June 2003, 10:50 PM
If they are sliding off, then the strike was not performed properly.
Hongsermeier
13th June 2003, 10:54 PM
They were performed properly. A Do hit comes from above your head down at a 45 angle. Hits the Do(hopefully). If the Do is slippery the shinai slides down instead of bouncing. Makes a totaly different sound. :cross_eye
Hai_hai
13th June 2003, 11:22 PM
Oh okay.
It's kind of strange to be putting car wax on lacquer (unless you have a fiberglass do in which case, it's paint and not lacquer), but that's your business. I believe the do lacquer is the same as furniture lacquer (i.e. Japanese furniture) and the same techniques and lacquer ingredients to get a shiny/colored finish are the same (black, orange, green, etc.).
Hongsermeier
13th June 2003, 11:34 PM
I think your right about the lacquer. Car wax works great and is pretty tough. Carnauba wax from Mothers is what I use.
The following quote is from their web site.
'Carnauba has a very strong grain structure and is the hardest wax known to man. In addition to being incredibly durable, carnauba dries to a deep, natural shine (in contrast, bees wax, paraffin and many synthetic waxes tend to cloud and occlude).
Aside from automotive appearance products carnauba wax is used as a finish coating on a wide variety of items including: fine furniture." :cross_eye
Hai_hai
13th June 2003, 11:45 PM
As Pat Morita said in the movie The Karate Kid, "Waxa on, waxa off.".
samurai999
14th June 2003, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by rottunpunk
ive been told theres a do with dragons on-where i cant find the link or post
and wheres this do and can i have it?
:p
I have seen mother-of-pearl integrated into dou into patterns of dragons before. One tourney at P/A a year or two back. The dou alone was like a thousand bucks american.
Next, if you want a do with some design on it you should be a certified "kendo bad-ass". You will get attention with dou like that and if you don't look good doing kendo in a dou that looks good, then you might be marked as a showoff". Careful..
Pure black works for me.. Just buff it with some wax and let it shine.. hehe..
Tim
Neil Gendzwill
15th June 2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by samurai999
The dou alone was like a thousand bucks american.
You can pay that much easily for a plain jane black doh.
Nishi
18th June 2003, 04:26 AM
Rottonpunk, i would love to take a whacks at a lovely new "DO", but im not fusy....:D I'll hit anything!!!!!
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Nishi
7th July 2003, 05:18 AM
Well i saw this dragon "doh" at the WKC shops, and i must admit it was kinda nice, but i still wanted to grab one of them shinai on special offer and start beating it down......its just so hit'able!!
chidokan
7th July 2003, 06:14 PM
Debz,
chidokan
7th July 2003, 06:34 PM
took too long to edit the last one!
try again...
Debz,
got the catalogue for ebudo.com for you as they are the people who do this and the rest of the NORMAL bogu ( not that you're normal...) was reasonable quality at not bad prices..
Spent a load of cash on all sorts of stuff...new bag for my bogu as the old one is wearing after 25 years..new gi, new shinai etc etc...:)
didnt get that weird blue metal shinai tsuba though, or the plastic pink one as I thought it would clash with the rest of my kit..:eek:
Tim Hamilton
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