bah!

[Twobitmage]

I just wanted to post to say that I saw some guy with an afro twirling around a shinai like a baton. the shinai looked like a 37 or 36.

It kinda offended me, I have to say.

[tgsfg]

I just wanted to post to say that I saw some guy with an afro twirling around a shinai like a baton. the shinai looked like a 37 or 36.

It kinda offended me, I have to say.
Listen to this:
1. Anyone can do anything with a shinai. Why would you be offended? Did he use yours? Did he do it inside a dojo?
2. Stop trying to be an elitist.

[Twobitmage]

Listen to this:
1. Anyone can do anything with a shinai. Why would you be offended? Did he use yours? Did he do it inside a dojo?
2. Stop trying to be an elitist.

i'm offended because I found it arrogant.

I hope you arent trying to antagonize me by calling me an elitist.

[Andoru]

Listen to this:
1. Anyone can do anything with a shinai. Why would you be offended? Did he use yours? Did he do it inside a dojo?
2. Stop trying to be an elitist.

Your post makes no sense. There is absolutely no link between taking offense and being "elitist". :smoker:

[KhawMengLee]

Listen to this:
1. Anyone can do anything with a shinai. Why would you be offended? Did he use yours? Did he do it inside a dojo?
2. Stop trying to be an elitist.

1) Lets say you are a professional race car driver. And you see a yuppie buy a Porche GT and then you watch the guy try and park and see him hit the curb etc. Wouldn't you cringe that such a beautiful machine is in the hands of a complete twat.

2) Say, you spent a good deal of effort training in an art. Some twat comes along who says he does what you do but studied by watching a few ninja films. Wouldn't you be insulted? Its not being an elitist...its just watching idiots pretend or try to be something they are not.

[Alison2805]

I agree. When I see someone splitting concrete of something with a geological hammer I want to cry. THATS NOT WHAT ITS INTENDED FOR. Using it in that way shows incompetence, and thinking you are so awesome that you film it and put it on the net would be offensive to me.

Now excuse me while I get back to using the edge of my laptop to open beer bottles.

[rottunpunk]

hehe nice one alison

the guy that invented those little paper sugar packets killed himself because no one opened them the right way :rolleyes:
:p

[Alison2805]

Hahahaha!!!!

[MikeW]

I do not get offended/insulteed by stuff like that. I worry about myself and my own training not what others do or say.

[JSchmidt]

2) Say, you spent a good deal of effort training in an art. Some twat comes along who says he does what you do but studied by watching a few ninja films. Wouldn't you be insulted? Its not being an elitist...its just watching idiots pretend or try to be something they are not.

So let him. Who cares. Is your ego really that fragile?

[Washington]

I just wanted to post to say that I saw some guy with an afro twirling around a shinai like a baton. the shinai looked like a 37 or 36.

It kinda offended me, I have to say.

I had a day like that a bit ago shortly after i started kendo.

So i'm heading up to the coffee shop to get my daily fix.. when i see some older teen/early 20's guy walking up the street with a bokken. I fall instep behind him thinking, "hey.. there's someone from class i haven't met before, he must be one of the iaido guys."

And what does he do? walks into my coffee shop ahead of me. Great! So i get in line behind him and ask, "Iaido?"

blink blink

I gesture at his sword... "oh.. no.. it's a bokken"

/sigh

"No.. do you do Iaido? I don't recognize you from kendo class" i clarify.

"um.. no" he says, "this is just for the walk home."

:ermm:

I've called it my first real ninja siting since then.

[Andou]

I had a day like that a bit ago shortly after i started kendo.

So i'm heading up to the coffee shop to get my daily fix.. when i see some older teen/early 20's guy walking up the street with a bokken. I fall instep behind him thinking, "hey.. there's someone from class i haven't met before, he must be one of the iaido guys."

And what does he do? walks into my coffee shop ahead of me. Great! So i get in line behind him and ask, "Iaido?"

blink blink

I gesture at his sword... "oh.. no.. it's a bokken"

/sigh

"No.. do you do Iaido? I don't recognize you from kendo class" i clarify.

"um.. no" he says, "this is just for the walk home."

:ermm:

I've called it my first real ninja siting since then.


At least he didn't call it a katana and tell you he was studying Hiten-Mitsurugi Ryu, yeah?

[KhawMengLee]

So let him. Who cares. Is your ego really that fragile?

I'm a delicate flower.

[pgsmith]

I'm a delicate flower.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2933066.stm



:D

[KhawMengLee]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2933066.stm



:D

Lord of the Flies mate...hahaha

[tgsfg]

So let him. Who cares. Is your ego really that fragile?

Exactly. That's what I'm saying, watching a guy twirl a shinai shouldn't be a reason to get offended. If he started doing that in a dojo or if he insisted that he studies a kenjutsu, then get offended. It is being elitist, cause all he's doing is spinning the shinai. What if he was just doing wrist warm-ups?

[tgsfg]

I agree. When I see someone splitting concrete of something with a geological hammer I want to cry. THATS NOT WHAT ITS INTENDED FOR. Using it in that way shows incompetence, and thinking you are so awesome that you film it and put it on the net would be offensive to me.

Now excuse me while I get back to using the edge of my laptop to open beer bottles.

Because none of us here have ever used a tool for something other than it's original use? A shinai, to most people, is a stick. To him, he was twirling a stick much like you might use a pin to take a splinter out. The shinai was his best idea, maybe because of weight or aesthetics, for his twirly excercise. To me, this is no different from:
1. Kendoka's using golf bags for shinai carrying case.
2. Using tires for target dummy.
3. Using a basketball gym for practice (still talking about kendo).
4. Using chopsticks to scratch face with while men is on.
....and the list continues.

Comparing the use of a shinai as a stick and opening beer bottles with a laptop is bit too much.

[Kenzan]

1. Kendoka's using golf bags for shinai carrying case.
2. Using tires for target dummy.
3. Using a basketball gym for practice (still talking about kendo).
4. Using chopsticks to scratch face with while men is on.
....and the list continues.
.

Hey! No fair!



LOL

[Paikea]

I agree. When I see someone splitting concrete of something with a geological hammer I want to cry. THATS NOT WHAT ITS INTENDED FOR. Using it in that way shows incompetence, and thinking you are so awesome that you film it and put it on the net would be offensive to me.

Now excuse me while I get back to using the edge of my laptop to open beer bottles.Actually, back in the days of prospecting for pelagic greensands and manganese nodules - we'd (quite competently) open the beers with the rock hammer. Then, we'd launch SCUBA cylinders off the boat with a sledge hammer.

Ah, "science"...

[Alison2805]

hehehe, not much has changed!! And yes, Ive seen people use laptops and whatever for heaps of different things. Squashing bugs is my favourite.

I personally find a video of someone twirling a shinai not offensive, but I can understand how someone could. But I also think people who post videos of themselves doing this sort of stuff should expect others to take the piss.

[tgsfg]

hehehe, not much has changed!! And yes, Ive seen people use laptops and whatever for heaps of different things. Squashing bugs is my favourite.
These people must have heaps of money to abuse a laptop like that. I go crazy if my laptop tips over and hits my carpet floor from a height of 5mm.

[Kenzan]

I hate it when people in restaurants use matchbooks to pick thier teeth.


-And, before someone else says it: Yes, only the best restaurants where people are likely to be seen picking thier teeth with matchbooks are good enough for my family! :D

[Alison2805]

These people must have heaps of money to abuse a laptop like that. I go crazy if my laptop tips over and hits my carpet floor from a height of 5mm.

See? SEE? We all have something we consider so precious or special that we'd get a hernia watching someone treat it like dirt.

But laptops DO squash bugs well. And when its closed you can sit in the ute ("truck" for americans) and sit your lunch on it like a table. I just chuck mine on the floor of the car, and most of the time when I get to work I have to shake it upside down to get the toast crumbs out of the keys.

You squirming yet? Are ya?

[KhawMengLee]

See? SEE? We all have something we consider so precious or special that we'd get a hernia watching someone treat it like dirt.

But laptops DO squash bugs well. And when its closed you can sit in the ute ("truck" for americans) and sit your lunch on it like a table. I just chuck mine on the floor of the car, and most of the time when I get to work I have to shake it upside down to get the toast crumbs out of the keys.

You squirming yet? Are ya?

You drive a ute? :D

[Alison2805]

indeedy I do - only when Im out bush for work. Generally an old, big, smelly, bush-bashing, blokey ute with 16 spare tyres, a 2-way to annoy people with, and AM radio only. If youre lucky you may get a tape deck. Only once have I ever had the supreme luck to have a cd player, but it couldnt play anything after a day in all the dust anyway.

[JSchmidt]

See? SEE? We all have something we consider so precious or special that we'd get a hernia watching someone treat it like dirt.

Different thing entirely. He's talking about an object that he owns, not what someone else is doing with their own property.

[tgsfg]

Different thing entirely. He's talking about an object that he owns, not what someone else is doing with their own property.

Yup. I wouldn't twirl or toss a shinai, but I don't care if someone else did (outside of dojo and not with mine).

[Paikea]

indeedy I do - only when Im out bush for work. Generally an old, big, smelly, bush-bashing, blokey ute with 16 spare tyres, a 2-way to annoy people with, and AM radio only. If youre lucky you may get a tape deck. Only once have I ever had the supreme luck to have a cd player, but it couldnt play anything after a day in all the dust anyway.Looking for Lassiter's Reef are you?

[Twobitmage]

Because none of us here have ever used a tool for something other than it's original use? A shinai, to most people, is a stick. To him, he was twirling a stick much like you might use a pin to take a splinter out. The shinai was his best idea, maybe because of weight or aesthetics, for his twirly excercise. To me, this is no different from:
1. Kendoka's using golf bags for shinai carrying case.
2. Using tires for target dummy.
3. Using a basketball gym for practice (still talking about kendo).
4. Using chopsticks to scratch face with while men is on.
....and the list continues.

Comparing the use of a shinai as a stick and opening beer bottles with a laptop is bit too much.

I wasn't offended because he used it for exercise. I was offended because I found his expression, and overall persona, arrogant.

[Alison2805]

Looking for Lassiter's Reef are you?

Not quite - copper. Im heading back out there to do more drilling in a couple of months. Nice easy rocks, unlike looking for gold. Searching for manganese nodules must have been fun!

I bought a book the other day called "Dont tell Mum I work on the rigs, she thinks Im a piano player in a whore-house." Funniest damn thing Ive ever read!! Its an aussie book, but if you ever see it over your way, grab it.

[tgsfg]

I wasn't offended because he used it for exercise. I was offended because I found his expression, and overall persona, arrogant.
His persona? Did he say anything to you or anyone around him? Did he say "Look at me, I'm cool." From your post, it seems you were offended because you judged him to be an arrogant guy. So basically, you were offended by him because you wanted to be.

[Twobitmage]

His persona? Did he say anything to you or anyone around him? Did he say "Look at me, I'm cool." From your post, it seems you were offended because you judged him to be an arrogant guy. So basically, you were offended by him because you wanted to be.

does someone have to say something to look arrogant?

Why are you so fixated on trying to prove me wrong? if you're so godamned smart and cont care about what other people think and do, why are you so invested in what *I* think? If you're open minded enough to not care whether he's arrogant, why do you care whether I find it offensive?

I smell hypocricy

[tgsfg]

does someone have to say something to look arrogant?


Why are you so fixated on trying to prove me wrong? if you're so godamned smart and cont care about what other people think and do, why are you so invested in what *I* think? If you're open minded enough to not care whether he's arrogant, why do you care whether I find it offensive?

I smell hypocricy

1. If he didn't say anything, what's your guidelines for looking arrogant? How would you know that he was actually being arrogant? In the end, it's you just being judgemental and deciding that this person is just an arrogant guy. Maybe you thought he was offensive because of his afro.
2. I'm not fixated on trying to prove you wrong buddy. I told you what I thought about your initial post, and gave good reasons to why I thought those things. You responded to that, and I responded back. That's called forum discussion buddy. If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you, just ask questions, don't comment.
3. You must be smelling your upper lip.

[xvikingx]

I smell hypocricy

I smell pointless bickering.
Who cares is he was twirling a shinai? Who cares if Twobitmage cares?

Get over it.

[tgsfg]

I smell pointless bickering.
Who cares is he was twirling a shinai? Who cares if Twobitmage cares?

Get over it.

Sound advice.

[Kitsune]

I smell pointless discussion here. I mean what's the big deal about a dude who thinks he's a samurai, we live surrounded by them anyway, even in our dojos...

We have to explain a lil twat something he would never understand cos he has a little mind, again we tried that in the past and we never did it, we never changed their minds before... It's not going to be different this time I can assure you that...

So this whole thread is so pointless that the only thing you're doing right now is having the same conversation over and over again.

Just stop.

[Ignatz]

I just wanted to post to say that I saw some guy with an afro twirling around a shinai like a baton.Was it a big 1970's afro like Link in the Mod Squad or Huggy Bear Starsky and Hutch or kind of like a natural 2000's kind of afro. This could make a difference.

Anybody who doesn't get the joke, well, never mind.

[tgsfg]

Was it a big 1970's afro like Link in the Mod Squad or Huggy Bear Starsky and Hutch or kind of like a natural 2000's kind of afro. This could make a difference.

Anybody who doesn't get the joke, well, never mind.

Maybe it was this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEtIoGQxqQs

[Twobitmage]

Sound advice.

I will say one last thing before I bury the hatchet.

I dont like how you called me an elitist, and I tend to take comments like that offensively. Dont be surprised if you call me a name and I snap at you again.

that is all.

[Twobitmage]

I feel like an asshole because I started something from nothing.

please accept my apologies, and i'll be on my way

[Webalistic]

Was it This guy (http://www.blamkarate.com/videos/LRGTC03PNB.asx)? Not much to do with MA, but it looks fun... so what?

[Ignatz]

It was probably one of these guys
http://www.sonypictures.com/tv/shows/sgn/sh/

(go to accesorize huggy bear!)

http://www.chezgrae.com/modsquad/

[rottunpunk]

ah those cammo haks in webalsitics link are ace. i want some

are you getting all nostalgic from the 1980s thread ignatz? :D
:p

[tgsfg]

Was it This guy (http://www.blamkarate.com/videos/LRGTC03PNB.asx)? Not much to do with MA, but it looks fun... so what?

That's great stuff. Peanut butter jelly!

[xvikingx]

Was it This guy (http://www.blamkarate.com/videos/LRGTC03PNB.asx)? Not much to do with MA, but it looks fun... so what?
Awesome. I would like to tameshigiri done while doing a head spin.

[ghostdancer]

afro ninja, very good like it thats gotta hurt