Free lessons for re-educating misterkurukuru!!!

[Gatts]

I have been reading many posts that have included this person, and I just can’t believe that he is a 4th DAN is there anyone who can verify this because he seems such a big mouth. Does this misterkurukuru not realise that he is embarrassing himself by the way in which he is acting. I know many of you might object to me saying this but I just could not help myself after reading so many of his foul mouthed posts. I think this person needs someone to teach him what it means to be a 4th DAN. Maybe we can use this thread as way of educating misterkurkuru about what it means to be a person of good character. Who agrees? If so please give your opinions on how misterkurukuru can improve himself.

[mingshi]

Nah, I'd have a word with Mr M. Shikai at the WKC next month. That'll calm him down a bit.

So yeah, 4Dan or whatever is just limited to Kendo. Our lives are richer then just Kendo or the KW forums.

:)

[nodachi]

I've said before directly to kurukuru in posts that maybe if he posted serious responses to things on a regular basis then he would be taken more seriously and maybe remove his troll status...

HOWEVER...

By starting threads such as this, that address people you don't necessary like directly, you are only feeding into his black hole that he comments about all the time. Congrats kurukuru, more mass is being sucked into your happy little black hole.

There is alot less stress if you just ignore posts that have no value to you. When you argue it out on the forum, it only feeds to the amount of fluff that shows up.

And yes, I realize that I am adding fuel to the fire with this. It is rare, but occasionally I do something stupid like this. I will shut up now.

:)

[aru-ma]

O.K.....I can see where this is going and I dont think anyone will like it.

yes, most of find mrkurukuru rather disturbing in this board, you may have good intention in trying to re-educate the guy, but the only reply you're gonna get is "your the one that needs re-education" sort of answer, so its really pointless. No offence but next time you post please stick to asking and answering questions that is worth posting (please dont take this the wrong way). If you dont like what you see (eg. irrelevant one-liner post like "whahahaha") just ignore it.

[Gatts]

Yes maybe you are right that this thread might lead to something stupid, but maybe as a community we can help this person to better himself. Maybe he is just feeling lonely at home and frustrated, hence why he is acting like a 10 year old on this forum. Hopefully, misterkurukuru can take this as a positive thread and use this thread to reflect upon himself of why he projects the image of being such a bad person. Hopefully, if he can understand this we might see something turn out good. I know it’s a long shot, but I guess he deserves a little hope.

[ben]

Lovely sentiment Gatts, but I gotta agree with the others, a waste of time. Kurukuru-like behaviour is endemic on the internet. Some personality-types seem to get a kick out of stirring up controversy and then sitting back and saying "And he saw what he had made, and he saw that it was good -Mwahahahahaaaaa!"
Save your compassion for actual sentient beings, not comglomerations of pixels.
;)
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[William Honda]

Re-education,

You sound like a pinko commie.

Ben, you should talk about stirring controversy. All you people out there talk about a yondan trash talking b.s. Ben says he'd like to spit in the Prime Minister's face and called the President of the United States a dickhead. Where were you then, crying for re-education. Is this the standard for yondan in Aus to trash talk?

Who the hell is trash talking and why are others not bashing Ben for his inflammatory, complaining, whining, and US hating statements? You guys have good yondan over there, yeah, OOH I want to emulate Ben. Good example, Ben.

Mingshi,

Are you going crying to the teacher because you can't handle the forum? Waaaaaaaaaah! Grow up and handle what you helped to create.

[ben]

Honda mate, you gotta understand bashing authority figures is a national sport in Australia. Part of our national character. It's also called the Tall Poppy Syndrome. You mustn't take it *personally*. I'm not talking about *you*!
;)
me old Seppo china!

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[Inouye02]

Mingshi , you can cry to mr honda's and my sensei also if that will make you feel grown up ...

venice Kendo Dojo

A. Yoshida ( head instructor )

[William Honda]

Drugs and drive-bys are a part of the hood. I know first hand, but that don’t make it right. Leadership does not come by hiding behind a lemming. Using “All the other lemmings were throwing themselves into the sea. So I jumped too.” is not an excuse. I don't buy it.

I don’t know if I am taking it personally, I’m not that connected to my “inner self”. However, if you are Ben S. that took the photographs, I say this with all sincerity – I liked the black and white photograph with the shinais very, very much.

[ben]

Yeah that was a HUGE training that one. Glad you liked pics.
:)
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[misterkurukuru]

I am actually 3 kyu! edumacation??!?!?!? i know nothing about kendo, i thought this was the dir en grey fan site? you got me though...i am pretending to be mister kurukuru..wow how did you know? how would you re-educate me????????????????????????
are you talking about kendo? how do you know if i am educated or not? I never claimed to be educated; therfore i cannot be re-educated if you do not know the truth! And how can i ACT on a forum...its all up to you people to Interpret my words. Thank you for taking me seriously! No one ever does! But on KWF everyone takes me seriously, that is why this place is great! Oh don�ft you see by starting this thread it shows that you have no right to judge anyone morally or intellectually about any subject with out being a HYPOCRATE!!!!! Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite! Thanks for entering the kurukuru black hole�cwe will be showing KML�fs funniest kendo videos #4 and the odd couple starring confound and hai hai on today�fs flight!

i am not the only one with a foul mouth. Shikai sensei knows about me already! i yam who i yam!

[KATSUJIN]

If u don't mind mr kurukuru....stop posting such unecessarily long messages which only make people more irritated....this is a kendo forum...not a " hey its lets-bash-that-guy!! " forum.....we are here to discuss and share our opinions on kendo....not bashing each other....so please lets get back to the important things....

[Inouye02]

whooooooosh !! another one sucked up ...

you people keep saying ignore the kurukuru man , but yet you keep coming back for more, we the members of the SCI DISCUSS AND SHARE OUR OPINIONS, but when we do it its whinning, bashing, or whatever .we compete in at least 7 tournaments a year here, so yeah your gonna hear about the judging , different people, you guys think we were bashing people in the North/South thread buts its a long tradition between the two federations, so if you dont like it , dont read it ..

[misterkurukuru]

have you seen all the kurukuru bashing threads or the threads that i do not even post on that bash me? i am not the only guilty one you know. I would say something about kendo, but this thread has nothing to do with it!
katonk!

[Inouye02]

so sad ,

[samurai999]

Originally posted by KATSUJIN
If u don't mind mr kurukuru....stop posting such unecessarily long messages which only make people more irritated....this is a kendo forum...not a " hey its lets-bash-that-guy!! " forum.....we are here to discuss and share our opinions on kendo....not bashing each other....so please lets get back to the important things....

You know, I can replace "if you don't mind" to "if you can't stand" and have the same impact..... :confused:

Tim

[Gatts]

Originally posted by misterkurukuru
how do you know if i am educated or not? I never claimed to be educated; therfore i cannot be re-educated if you do not know the truth!

I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but I suppose it all makes sense now why you act the way you do.

[mingshi]

Originally posted by William Honda
Are you going crying to the teacher because you can't handle the forum? Waaaaaaaaaah! Grow up and handle what you helped to create.

If I see a fellow kendoka hitting a dog with his Shinai on the street, of course I am not going to "handle" the situation. Reporting to the Sensei is the best option.

You can't stop me from talking to Mr Shikai anyway.
Mwahhahahaaha~

p.s. I won, I won!!:D

[Gatts]

Mingshi, you should never give them a warning in advance that you are going to do something to them. You should have given them a surprise with it, a surprise attack, one of my favourite rules to combat.

[Paburo]

i highly doubt that Shikai-sensei and Yoshida-sensei enjoy in any way the bad reputation some of their 'dojo' members are spreading on the internet.

if my sensei knew i had sunk the dojo's name to underground levels and that not even japanese kenshi want to do kendo interchange with us, he would probably kick me out of the school without hesitation.

[Phlebas]

"HYPOCRATE!!!!! Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite Hypocrite! Thanks for entering the kurukuru black hole" -- mr. kurukuru

Proof positive that kurukuru is a child. Would you stand and argue with a two-year-old? Of course not. If he's actually an adult, then he's a kitchen-lobotomy survivor or something and should be pitied and not encouraged. When you read his posts just shake your head and click your tongue as if you're admonishing an infant, and reassure anyone in earshot that this guy is a sub-standard kendoka, whatever age he may be.

It's a shame, really. I thought I saw a glimmer of intelligent discourse in one or two of his posts a while ago. Hopefully he'll keep trying and someday he might actually be helpful to someone, rather than simply raising the hackles of everyone around him just for his own amusement... in other words, a valuable member of the community. (crosses fingers) Hopefully.

[junkyman]

I don't really know shikai sensei but I have a feeling that Yoshida Sensei would get a big laugh out of it.

[William Honda]

Mingshi,

You've found a way to lower yourself into the depths of detritus, and the childish glee with which you do it is pathetic.

Do everyone a favor and videotape this tattle-tale discussion you have with Shikai Sensei. Make sure you get a close up on Shikai Sensei's face as you are describing Mr. Kurukuru's behavior on the forum. Also make sure you get a close up of your face when Shikai Sensei tells you what he thinks.

This will be the second edition of KWF's Funniest Videos. I would buy a copy.

[mingshi]

Hmmm every picture of mine now costs 3 tenugui. Since in a film a second has 24 frames, a 15-minute interview of this sort will cost you...

3*24*60*15 = 64, 800 tenugui

There is no such thing as "free lesson" in my dictionary. :rolleyes:

[Hongsermeier]

800 tenugui???

For that price I'd rather hop a flight and come visit you in person.

As for Shikai Sensei...It takes a certain attitude or mind set(confidence) to practice kendo. I've only practiced in his dojo once, but I think he would not complain of kurukuru's attitude. You must have total confidence in yourself. Throw yourself into the attack with total confidence. Will yourself to win. The samarai spirit. If kurukuru's post's do nothing else they get you to think. Either to disagree or agree. :cross_eye

[TKO]

New comer of this Forums group, and I’ve read so many topics that doesn’t seem to benefit kendo or anything. Especially from Mr. Kuru. He seems more like a person who study Kenjutsu and not that of Ken-DO. Maybe he is confused between art of Kenjutsu and Kendo??

[Hongsermeier]

TKO.....from watching Mr. kurukuru in different taikai and at practice I can assure you he does know Kendo. He is a sensei and is almost always smiling and having fun. :cross_eye

[M.K. Kawai]

Mingshi,

Does it all have to come from one Dojo or can we pool our Tenugui together :D

MKK

[TKO]

Hongsermeier,

I think you misunderstood me also.

Kenjutsu is study of Sword TECHNIQUE ONLY. If you compare people who study kenjutsu for 15 years Vs. Person who study Kendo for 15 years. 9 out of 10, Kenjutsu students will come out on top. Now Ken-“DO” is the study of way of sword. By that, we learn self-esteem, self-respect as well as respect for and from others. Mr. Kuru doesn’t seem to show any of these characteristics. I don’t know Mr. Kuru and I don’t doubt his abilities to “Beat peoples up”. But from many of his remark, it seems to me that his ego hides on top of his emotions and his aggression, and he attempts to defend himself with the use of Kenjutsu (ken technique) or other deceptive techniques (talk down to other kendo-ka show no respect for other peoples feeling ....etc). They are people who can win this way, but the win is no great honor either. I also think if he does not recongnize and restrain his own ego, one day it will grow stronger and ultimately lead to his own destruction.


p.s. I must apologies for my broken English.
Maybe I can write them in Chinese or Japanese and you guys can help me translate them?

[Confound]

TKO,

You are kind to give Kurukuru the benefit of doubt. It shows your own generosity of spirit. But, Kurukuru really is a troll.

That said, Welcome to the unmoderated donkey's arse that is Kendo World Forums. Don't blame me, blame the trigger happy, slur-throwing moderator Alex, and his side kick, Hamish.

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[William Honda]

Damn,

I want to read the unedited version!

[Hai_hai]

Originally posted by mingshi
Hmmm every picture of mine now costs 3 tenugui. Since in a film a second has 24 frames, a 15-minute interview of this sort will cost you...

3*24*60*15 = 64, 800 tenugui

There is no such thing as "free lesson" in my dictionary. :rolleyes:


64,800 tenegui? Hell no. That's just ludicrous. Now you are getting into high-priced call girl range.

[m_french]

Originally posted by mingshi



Reporting to the Sensei is the best option.

You can't stop me from talking to Mr Shikai anyway.
Mwahhahahaaha~

p.s. I won, I won!!:D

I'll have to agree with Brad on this one....not only would Shikai
sensei not be particularly interested in your opinion of the enigma that is KURUKURU he probably wouldn't appriceate you speaking poorly about his students. ........ He was just at Venice Dojo the other day speaking quite highly of Kurukuru and even went so far as to compliment him on the quality of his traditional dancing techniques :beard:

[kawa]

Perhaps someone should print out all Kurukuru remarks in this forum and mail them to his Sensei(s). I have a feeling his Sensei’s opinion will soon change. But I suspect his Sensei did not know about Kurukuru eccentric behavior in the information highway. I hope in the real world he is totally opposite of what I see here.

[kawa]

Better idea, let’s send them to ALL the top Kendo Senseis in West cost and CC: his Sensei. Would be interesting to see if he still “compliment him on the quality of his traditional dancing techniques” But again, we might not see kurukuru in this forum anymore :D

[Hongsermeier]

Kawa..sounds like a big case of "I'm gonna tell my mom".

I have a better idea. For everyone that wants to shut kurukuru up. Go to his dojo for a practice. Keiko with him. If you can beat him he can't talk crap to you anymore.

Kurukuru, deal??? :cross_eye

[William Honda]

We have an epidemic of tattle-tales. Quick call the CDC, the WHO we have to get to this early before it spreads.

You and Mingshi go to the same preschool? We can quarantine it.

[Inouye02]

Hey Brad , thats a excellent ideal but it has been done and noooobody has taken it up....

[misterkurukuru]

I am game! TKO you maybe on to something about me! Shikai sensei... okay tell him, i am sure you can talk to him when he is NOT BUSY BEING A JUDGE AT THE WKC. tell him something that he does not know! All this stuff is old news. Mr.Hongsermeier I look foward to doing keiko with you. It should be fun! i do want to see the "peoples" kote!

[Hongsermeier]

The "peoples" kote is a yoon speciality. You'll have to wait for the north/south next year. Unless I can shame him into coming down for a visit and practice.
The wife is looking forward to Mon as well. :cross_eye

[Hai_hai]

It is highly pretentious of all of you if you think you are better than misterkurukuru. Not to mention, you are gaijin. Gaijin who show no respect.

[Hongsermeier]

Hai Hai don't include me in that. I never said I was better. I look forward to the challenge and will not just roll over and let him beat me. I do expect to lose, but I do expect to make him sweat a little in the process. :cross_eye

[Hai_hai]

Originally posted by Hongsermeier
Hai Hai don't include me in that. I never said I was better. I look forward to the challenge and will not just roll over and let him beat me. I do expect to lose, but I do expect to make him sweat a little in the process. :cross_eye

Hai.

[nodachi]

"Not to mention, you are gaijin. Gaijin who show no respect."

So some people are being disrespectful... okay, can't argue that.

However, "not to mention, you are gaijin", now that comment is blantantly not cool, to put it lightly. When I was learning in Japan, I was happy to see that despite my kendo being beginners kendo, I was still taken seriously and no one whom I practiced with in or out of my dojo ever just wrote me off as a gaijin. But to read that comment, HaiHai, that's just not cool. You may not be directing it at me, but to see that directed at anyone is ridiculous.

Sorry to everyone who wants the Forum to get back on track and talk about Kendo again, but that comment really bothers me.

[samurai999]

Originally posted by misterkurukuru
Mr.Hongsermeier I look foward to doing keiko with you. It should be fun! i do want to see the "peoples" kote!

This is primarily focused on Hongsermeier, but since kurukuru wants in on our original waza, I've included him on my post as well.

Brad-rey!!!! What are you doing giving away our most precious (and original) Palo Alto dojo techniques. First you defect from the North and you give away proprietary information? For shame!!!
hahahaha.. Don't do "The People's Kote" incorrectly either. It will bring futher shame upon you and it's creator, Yoon. LOL

Have you seen ghet-tou ryu? It's hillarious. There is one waza and a special kamae. :D :D :D Aren't we an eclectic bunch?

Tim

[Hongsermeier]

I will leave the "peoples" kote to yoon. I'm still working on my own waza. :cross_eye

[AlexM]

Originally posted by mingshi
Hmmm every picture of mine now costs 3 tenugui. Since in a film a second has 24 frames, a 15-minute interview of this sort will cost you...

3*24*60*15 = 64, 800 tenugui

There is no such thing as "free lesson" in my dictionary. :rolleyes:

Don't be fooled by Jenny's cute exterior... All she wants is tenugui. Her mind is set on nothing but tenugui! :D

She promised me tons of pics if I sent her just one McGill tenugui... I did that and now she doesn't even talk to me anymore. She used me! USED ME!!!!! I fell so cheap and violated now... :(

As for re-educating kurukuru... this is another dumb thread. The title is dammed sinister at any rate ("Nineteen-Eighty-Four" anyone?)

Jakob got it exactely right in another thread: Kurukuru is not taking himself seriously and neither should we. If you don't like to read his stuff then just ignore it. I only have two gripes: 1) He's not funny, but then again neither am I. 2) A 4th dan should have some excellent anecdotes and advice to tell us but he doesn't... and that just sucks.

[Alex]

Dear Confound,

I have taken your comments quoted below as meaning you want to be removed from the Kendo World Forums.

Thank you.

Good bye!


Kendo World Team





"TKO,

You are kind to give Kurukuru the benefit of doubt. It shows your own generosity of spirit. But, Kurukuru really is a troll.

That said, Welcome to the unmoderated donkey's arse that is Kendo World Forums. Don't blame me, blame the trigger happy, slur-throwing moderator Alex, and his side kick, Hamish.

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[kendokamax]

this forum used to be fun

[Alex]

still is, just have to do some weeding.

[Confound]

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[Hai_hai]

Even I, with my less than accepted sense of humor, would not insult Alex and Hamish.

It's not what you know, it's who you know.

[alexpollijr]

Originally posted by Alex
still is, just have to do some weeding.

I guess things started the wrong way

- Alexandre

[misterkurukuru]

we must respect what Alex and hamish are doing for us by running kendo world forum. I know they do not enjoy most of my posts, and i have a way or lack of a way with words that tick people off. howerver i would never go as far as confound did...there are somethings even mister kurukuru would not do.

[KENSHIN]

Originally posted by misterkurukuru
we must respect what Alex and hamish are doing for us by running kendo world forum. I know they do not enjoy most of my posts, and i have a way or lack of a way with words that tick people off. howerver i would never go as far as confound did...there are somethings even mister kurukuru would not do.

That’s quite funny, especially coming from you.

[TKO]

Wow!!...I gues Freedom of Speech only go as far as long you don’t talk about “them”.

Very funny INDEED.......coming from Mr. Kuru

[JSchmidt]

As I mentioned in another thread, there is no such thing as "Freedom of Speech " on a privatly run BBS.

Jakob

[Hai_hai]

Originally posted by JSchmidt
As I mentioned in another thread, there is no such thing as "Freedom of Speech " on a privatly run BBS.

Jakob

Yeah, there's an "e" in privately you moron.

[Inouye02]

i dont see anyone laughing at kurukuru ...but then yahiko is a kid so i guess

[Hai_hai]

I, a 0 kyu kendoka, am a kohai to misterkuru, so I cannot give any lessons to re-educate misterkuru.
However, if you need any sleazy pick up lines, call me. Here's lesson one.

"Hey baby, are those space pants... because your a$$ is out of this world."

Disclaimer: All lessons will be sleazy/tactless and can only work on true bimbos and women who have had one too many to drink... or girls who think you are cute regardless of what you say. I refer to that as the "Tom Cruise factor".

[gsx1100s]

A phrase I recently read on another site used by a very intelligent man springs to mind:

"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."


Now if you find that offensive I'd have a good think about why you do :) :wink:


cheers Michael

[Masahiro]

That quote actually is very similar to the quote in Dao De Tsing (My God, I hope I spelled the name right. it's been a while since I've read the book) anyways, it's by Lao Tsu. And it goes like this. "Those who talk do not know, those who know do not talk" interesting huh? how easter and western philosophy can resemble each other at times, almost like carbon copies,. as for re-educating mr. kurukuru. .. what was that thing Jesus said when he saved the woman (was she a prostitue?) from being stoned to death outside of jerusalem? he said "let those of you who have never committed a crime to be the first to throw the stone". I suppose he really isn't all that nice, but that's just him. What are you going to do? we can't expect utopia. I often find myself deleting posts to threads after having written a good 300 words to address some of the injustice and misconception I see in people's posts. Because I always ask myself "is it my job to educate them?" and the answer is always "no, it's their sensei's job" hope this helps.

[Andoru]

Uh-oh...you have just unearthed a big can of worms Masahiro-san! The big kurukuru debate is about to be reignited! :D

[taganahan]

at my signal, prepare to unleash hell....lol. people might be already sick of answering this thread.

~taganahan

[misterkurukuru]

I am a meen sun of a Beyatch. me is a really really dummmyz twoz!
gahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
masa chan dont get your undies in a bind! yes i am a jerk! yes i may have nothing good to say, but hey!!!! atleast i know i am not all high and mighty :wink: I am just a simple man who likes eating beans and farting...is that so wrong?? :rolleyes:

[kendokamax]

I think Ando is a troll, ..well at least looks like one.

[Hai_hai]

A phrase I recently read on another site used by a very intelligent man springs to mind:
So what you're saying is, another site that is used by an intelligent man allows people who aren't intelligent, such as yourself, to read from it.

[Kenji]

So what you're saying is, another site that is used by an intelligent man allows people who aren't intelligent, such as yourself, to read from it.I thought this was about mrkurukuru. Since when have we moved on to insulting another's intelligence? No matter how smart or dumb gsx1100s is, most of us who don't need to bash others can simply heed the advice. And very good advice at that.

[Masahiro]

Well, Hai Hai's comment was pretty funny in a cynical sarcastic kinda sense. And that's just him. Most of the time, I just laugh along. (Even when I don't get the joke. hahahahaha. j/k) I guess the person who gets picked on just have to be the bigger man and laugh it off. Like I do. And hey, by the way that's not an invitation to pick on me from now on!

[Random m0f0]

What the fuck is this bullshit? Fucking hell. Stop speaking shit.