new rules about getting hansoku

[Inouye02]

I dont know if this a SCKF only thing or not , but there are new rules concerning Hansoku, mostly being in tsubazeriai, will these new rules change ones kendo now, or will it stay the same ? just more cautious ?

hopefully Kawai Sensei will come in and shed some light on this ..

[KATSUJIN]

yes..ther are some changes....like if ur right kote is resting on your opponent's right kote....u get a hansoku.....if you just stick to the person in tsubazeriai...u also get hansoku....

[kendokamax]

ya i have seen it during the all kanto gakusei tournament.

well was a bit different situation. One match was going on and on and on. So they gave hansoku to both players.

[William Honda]

Next tournament will be interesting.

It could speed things up or make it longer. Could go either way. We’ll see.

Some people are going to be messed up as some of the new rules do not favor their style of kendo. They will be forced to change and there will be a period of adjustments.

[iwatekenshi]

Yes that rule has been in effect for awhile now. We had our southern prefectural JHS tournament this past weekend and while judging I told the students many times during shia about illegal tsubazurai. If they did it again I would give them hansoku after conferring with the other two judges. No big deal.

[M.K. Kawai]

The new tsubazeriai ruling is more than just sticking to a person or resting one's kote on anothers.

The new ruling has several components. I explained it the best I could in SCKF seminar thread. I'll be going to Chuo tomorrow to talk to Shikai sensei to try and clear up some minor details that I am not clear about.

The big question is what will happen at the So. Cal Championships next sunday. Are the shimpans going to enforce the ruling to the letter or not. There is a big debate about what might happen.

Some of the people I polled at the seminar are leaning toward the strict interpretation of the ruling. The general concensus is that they will issue a Chui (warning) in the first round before giving a Hansoku. After the first round, they will begin giving a Hansoku. Yudansha will not get the luxury of getting a Chui first.

Now, mind you this is a small number of people that I polled. About 4 or 5 out of almost 60 who at the seminar.

Since this is the first tournament that this ruling is to take effect. I'm inclined to give a Chui first before issuing a Hansoku. But, that's just me... Others may think differently than I do.

MKK

[Kendoka]

Two things were mentioned above. One was tsubazarei and the other one was about resting your kote on anothers.

In Australia we use IKF rules at all levels, so this response refers to those rules.

If players are resting in tsubazarei then the shinpan can call "wakare", this means resume kamae, WHERE YOU ARE NOW, not returning to the centre. This is different from "yame" - stop and return the centre. If they are both trying to find an opportunity and still have zanshin and are engaged in a "fight" then let them continue.

The other is that you must not let your kote remain in contact with the jinbu (Blade part of the shinai), that is a "hansoku" - foul. You can touch it briefly, but not "remain" in contact.

Neither are "new" rules, but they it seems that they are being applied more rigorously


Richard

[M.K. Kawai]

I had a chance to talk to Shikai sensei at Chuo and I did make a mistake with regard to nito ryu in tsubazeriai.

The kotachi and tachi MUST be crossed at all times during tsubazeriai. Neither can be on the same side unless a waza is being executed.

Also, strikes done by the Kotachi will NOT be counted.

MKK