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Dak
17th November 2006, 08:41 AM
ok so im getting into nito

i looked at ebogu for a daito and all they have is a 3.7 daito and I use a 3.8 regular


now here's my question do I look for a 3.8 daito or do i just buy the 3.7 one because sizes for nito are different?

yes i know i know nothing about anything

Paikea
17th November 2006, 08:47 AM
You've only been at this six weeks...it's far too early to get worked up about alternate kamae. Spend your money on some regular shinai or maybe even a hakama and keikogi. To answer your question, for nito you are allowed only a 37...

Dak
17th November 2006, 08:51 AM
oh i know I'm no ready for it, but i was curious
......also how do u know i've only been doing it for 6 weeks?

Paikea
17th November 2006, 08:53 AM
I'm psychic (http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showpost.php?p=211907&postcount=21)........

Dak
17th November 2006, 08:56 AM
wow nice memory 0.0

lol

but again im not starting nito for a while, but my sensei said if im interested in it i should buy just a daito and try to build strength in my left arm

Paikea
17th November 2006, 09:01 AM
wow nice memory 0.0

lol

but again im not starting nito for a while, but my sensei said if im interested in it i should buy just a daito and try to build strength in my left armHmmm...you can do that with your regular shinai or bokutoh. No need to spend any money.

ender84567
17th November 2006, 09:06 AM
katate and tenouchi, without a superiour understanding of tenouchi katate waza are worthless.

Dak
17th November 2006, 09:13 AM
Hmmm...you can do that with your regular shinai or bokutoh. No need to spend any money.
i think i'll just get a bokutoh cus we do alot of kihon-kata and iaido to, plus he said that a bokutoh would work just as well until im more "nito-ready"

@ender

i have no idea what u just said

pgsmith
17th November 2006, 09:22 AM
i have no idea what u just said
Which illustrates that you should be concentrating hard on nothing but the basics! Leave any alternate kamae (such as nito) to way in the future. Katate means one handed. Waza means forms or techniques. Tenouchi is the proper way of holding the sword and tightening or releasing the grip properly, with the necessary twist.

At least, that's what it means in the sword arts world, I am assuming that it means the same in kendo?

Uh Oh ... assumptions ...

Dak
17th November 2006, 10:52 AM
ok 1 last question

is teh daito lighter then a regular?

Neil Gendzwill
17th November 2006, 11:17 AM
It's a sticky (http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4983) in the shinai forum.

ender84567
17th November 2006, 12:04 PM
to expand, nito is all one handed or katate waza, without a supierior understand of tenouchi one handed techniques dont work, tenouchi is what gives them their crispness or cut. You can practice one handed suburi all day long, but without tenouchi it is really as good as worthless IMHO.

as for a disclaimer i dont claim to have superior anything, this is just from my own personal observations of people i've seen do nito or even jodan, specifically in jodan i've noticed most jodan novices seem to struggle with katate do, they often look baffled as to why shinpan did not give them the point when it was an apparent clean cut and a good opening. I usually notice a lack of crispness which i interpert as lack of tenouchi at this stage in my kendo, but i have been known to be full of crap.

nothing
18th November 2006, 12:52 AM
but again im not starting nito for a while,

a long while... your at it 5 weeks. Most sensei/federations won't let you test in alternative waza till easily Shodan or above..

Halcyon
18th November 2006, 01:02 AM
a long while... your at it 5 weeks. Most sensei/federations won't let you test in alternative waza till easily Shodan or above..
You are too generous. Even if he starts learning jodan or nito now, he'd be well-advised to test in chudan for the foreseeable future -- at least 10 years, minimum.

ScottUK
18th November 2006, 06:37 PM
A word of advice, Dak (http://www.daedalusdesign.co.uk/utilities/fun/ak47.jpg)...

ne0r
18th November 2006, 09:19 PM
Generally, do just what your sensei says. That's always the best thing you can do.

Even though, I don't think you can pick up nitou before at least ten years of hard practise...

Good luck!

Dak
19th November 2006, 05:25 AM
first i should just stop talking but i cant help it

you guys keep saying "listen to your sensei"

well my sensei says do it when you feel ready
he says the same for bogu and everything else

ScottUK
19th November 2006, 05:28 AM
Who is your sensei?

Sirsmokesalot
19th November 2006, 07:30 AM
Hello!


well my sensei says do it when you feel ready
he says the same for bogu and everything else

Hmmm your Sensei must be a strange Guy, i´am also feeling Ready for so many Things but beside Romantic, Heroic, and self overestimating Thought´s which i waste my time with the Fact is i´m surely not Ready for Things i think (or shall i say believe?) i´am.

Sure is Nito quite interessting and maybe you´re "born" for fighting in it´s Way. I could tell you thousand Reasons to stay in Chudan at your level of Kendo but you dont have to believe me or even listen to my Word´s so let me just say that there are some really really bad examples of People exsisting which show that you can start to early fighting in different Kamaes and another thing you can believe me, you don´t want to be one of these Guys...

Regards
Sirsmokesalot

Dak
19th November 2006, 07:35 AM
I intend on doing nito after a year of chudan

ty ppls :)

*best to learn the hard way in my case*

Sirsmokesalot
19th November 2006, 07:37 AM
Hello!


I intend on doing nito after a year of chudan

Change a year to 6 or 7 years and then you´re on the right way, and on a way which guarantees you Succes in Training and Practice.

Regards
Sirsmokesalot

Dak
19th November 2006, 07:39 AM
again I learn most things the hard way

its not like a have a standing nito sensei in my area anyway
there is one that comes once a year