View Full Version : wat's diff between kakari geiko and ji geiko ?
Pokie
20th July 2003, 09:24 PM
Hey guys ur noobie here again, Im just wondering the difference kakari geiko and ji geiko...cos they look the same..it seems
aru-ma
20th July 2003, 09:53 PM
Ji-geiko on the other hand is 'free practice' or sparing whereas kakari-geiko is attacking practice where one person constantly attacks the motodachi, unlike uchikomi-geiko however the motodachi sometimes (if not all the time) does not make an opening for you. kakari-geiko is usualy done in a much faster pace than uchikomi-geiko.
Nishi
20th July 2003, 10:14 PM
This is how we do it at my dojo.
Kakari-geiko, is attack practise (not sure of literal translation). You have a partner who will (depending on your grade) open targets and you attack them(higher grades make/take their own oppurtunities), one after the other. Ive been taught that the spirit of kakari-geiko is relentless (but correct) attacking, with the assistance of a co-operative reciever....one hand to wash the other.
Ji-geiko, is free practise, which is to say, you are free to practise anything you want in the confines of kendo to cut an aggresive opponent who has the same agenda as you.
I have seen some dojos who do a sort of ai-kakari-geiko, meaning they attack each other relentlessly at the same time but im not sure if its still called kakari-geiko or somthing else..?...
Neil Gendzwill
21st July 2003, 02:23 AM
Kakari-geiko is attacking practice, meaning one person attacks and the other offers targets. Jigeiko is free practice, meaning do whatever you want. In the case of jigeiko with sensei, it's do whatever sensei feels you need to work on. If you are quite junior, your jigeiko with sensei is often kakari-geiko or maybe only kiri-kaeshi (cutting practice) as your level is not enough to actually warrant any sparring.
When both sides do kakari-geiko at the same time, this is ai-gakari-keiko or just ai-gakari.
Uchikomigeiko is hitting practice, usually it's very very fast rapid fire attacking practice against a motodachi who acts as an uchikomidai (hitting dummy). It's like kakarigeiko, kind of hard to tell them apart sometimes. My sensei calls it "machine gun attack practice". In other words my understanding of it is the opposite to Aru-ma's.
kendomushi
21st July 2003, 09:52 AM
We explain kakarigeiko in English as open shots. There is always a motodachi providing openings for you.
Jigeiko is free practice and whoever the motodachi is will probably not just provide openings for you. Both of you will be practicing something you want to work on at least if you are of similar level.
aru-ma
21st July 2003, 08:38 PM
I personaly use ji-geiko for shiai practice, espcially if I'm doing it with someone with a similar level as me.
samurai999
22nd July 2003, 06:45 AM
uchikomi and kakarigeiko are different.
Uchikomi is where you "uchi through" a designated set of hits. Usually we go men-kote-do-kotemen-kotedo-menhikimen-menhikikote-menhikido-men. Sometimes we go 4 times on each type of strike. One time, we tacked on kirikaeshi at the end. That was off the hook! you go through, turn around and repeat as fast as you can with the loudest kiai you have.
Kakarigeiko is totally random. Motodachi chooses what to do. This drill basically increases your speed and decreases your reaction times. So eventually you are able to hit without a thought.
It is so difficult to explain. It is better to witness and do than to explain...
Tim
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