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Phil
27th July 2003, 12:32 AM
hi
i m a beginner in kendo but i practice naginata since a few years.
i m using iraki waki kamai in combat to score crossing do ...
could someone tell me if i would receave a flag for it???
Thks
Phil:confused:
ps:waki->nanameburi chitakarawe to the head->go down to do crossing your arms
Phil
27th July 2003, 12:35 AM
i don t know if you can imagine if i don t show you but...try :(
samurai999
27th July 2003, 05:30 PM
wakigamae? Wow. You have to swing all the way from that kamae to hit do! Theoretically it might. But most judges not seeing waki gamae before in a tourney might not even raise a flag. They might be stunned actually.
Plus, most people can see something from that kamae coming from a mile away. I can think of many counters. Tsuki, debana men, migi do, harai men, etc. The only thing that is probably protected is ur kote.
Tim
nodachi
28th July 2003, 12:46 AM
I thought that wakigamae was only useful if your opponent didn't know the length of you weapon, but since we are using pretty much the same length weapon, it nullifies the advantage of the kamae.
kendomushi
28th July 2003, 09:51 AM
We all have the same length shinai, but we all have a different reach and posture affecting that reach. So theoretically, wakigamae still might be useful in certain situations. However, a beginner in kendo, even with experience in naginata or other weapons arts shouldn't be using a kamae that presents such an open set of targets.
Stick with chudan and learning that properly before using other kamae. A strong centered chudan will present you with many more opportunities to attack than wakigamae will.
Phil
28th July 2003, 08:36 PM
Thks for all this advices
i would make a video of it and send it on the forum
since now i would practice a good chudan gamae before i try some eccentric waza :)
;) Phil
mingshi
29th July 2003, 03:31 AM
Hi Phil (Have I met you before?),
Theoretically Waki-kamae will work under certain conditions:-
1) Weapon with variable length;
2) Targets on lower part of the body.
which the Naginata qualifies, but the Shinai does not.
(Unless your opponent is very bad in his timing and distance...)
IMHO the best thing to do against Waki-kamae will definately be Tsuki~! :D
misterkurukuru
29th July 2003, 03:20 PM
you have nothing to gain from doing wakigamae with a 39. It would be like fishing with not enough line, or drinking from a straw that is too short. I like hasso. its good verses jodan and nito ( yes they very jodan and nito that were at the wkc gahahahahahaha). It makes them hit in ways they are funky for them. of course i am not new to kendo, and i know a thing or two about distance, seme, and speed. Stick with regular kamae till you are nidan, and then try something new!
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