Kendo Sword Fighting Round 2/ ATTN. NEW YORK!!! [Archive]

samurai80

18th February 2007, 10:14 AM

If your terrified of backyard ninjas, you'll still laugh at these dorks...
Go to "Kendo Sword Fighting Round 2" on youtube. If anyone is from a New York dojo, please note that these guys said they are personally willing to take you on. I left a post telling them I would love to see them let loose in a kendo dojo. Their reply... They'll take on someone from New York, oh...and that I obviously don't know anything about "true" sword fighting. I think I would pay good money to see this encounter, even a decent mudansha level guy could hand 'em their asses. Will they actually show up in the first place? Probably not, but if they did.....:silly:

Kapplow

18th February 2007, 10:33 AM

If a true kenshi ever challenged these guys, no good would ever come from it. Looks like a job for a backyard wrestler.

Dervish

18th February 2007, 10:37 AM

I think the screaming man 5:45 into the film had the right idea.

Thunder

20th February 2007, 05:21 AM

Funny stuff....My favorite part: the "jodan form"....with your left arm stretched out all the way, bicep in the throat...amazing stuff.

I agree that its not worth the time....but it wouldn't be a video I wouldn't watch :) You would need to get a waiver, as I fear that a madansha would break his wrist with several Kote hits.

Nochi-no-tsuki

20th February 2007, 06:10 AM

my favorite part was that nice green tree in the background. i know the driveway is impressive, but man that tree's got talent. :silly:

ScottUK

20th February 2007, 06:24 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NNUsIM8BMI

I couldn't help but leave my usual brand of comment.

kosh

20th February 2007, 08:07 AM

:laugh: Arseholes

ScottUK

20th February 2007, 08:15 AM

Hehe the Gurkha is straight to the point as usual... :)

Kenzan

20th February 2007, 08:25 AM

The video is average (as far as Ninjerly examples go) I mean, they need to be wearing Ninja Armor and have serious faces in order for this to be considered classic backyard goodness fodder.
Yes, I have become quite the connoisseur of Dogyard Rednerk-ery videos.
Precisely how this happened, I am not entirely certain.
Suffice to say that the comedic Tom-Foolery that is displayed in digital format these days is not unlike the tasting of a fine wine at this stage.

In any event, on the Kenzan-O-Scope, this gets 2 out of 10 stars.

The comments however, receive a generous 8 stars.

"You wouldn't be getting flamed so hard if you didn't call it Kendo. This is not Kendo. You should rename it backyard sword fighting or something. Not Kendo. Kendo is a lifetime commitment to physical and spiritual development. I see none of this in your video. Oh yeah, I still hope you stab yourself in the balls."

Particularly humorous, with a hint of fruit and robustness when swirled inside the basal ganglion, was the phrase :"Oh yeah, I still hope you stab yourself in the balls."

Priceless I tell you.
:D :D

Kapplow

20th February 2007, 08:42 AM

yours truely :)

ender84567

20th February 2007, 01:46 PM

i love the comment about how what they are doing is more like 'real' fighting than kendo, personally in a real fight i would bring a projectile weapon, i dont think they stand much of a chance. even if its too close for missles, you can always switch to guns XD

samurai80

21st February 2007, 05:53 AM

My beef is less with the video, and more about the dumb stuff they post in the comments section. The maker of the film claims that he in fact did

1. kendo
2. in NY
3. at the "top one" (dojo)
4. was the ''head of his class"

Incredible...

Someone should hit him with some basic kendo questions that a begginer would know, and then... watch the lies and empty physical threats mount one on top of the other.

kim

21st February 2007, 09:16 PM

Just got through seeing the clip, It was like watching my fat aunty dance.You know you should look away, but you just can't...
At one stage they said they were bieing shot at. maybe a local kendoka driven to dispair by these Musashi wannabees

Anonymous

22nd February 2007, 02:12 AM

You know, I'm tempted to make my own yard tard video just to provoke people into leaving amusing comments...

Andou

23rd February 2007, 07:53 AM

I must say, the one part of this video I truly did enjoy was the sound of wind blowing through the trees. I'm ready for short-sleeved shirt weather. :cool2:

Gessho

23rd February 2007, 11:21 AM

These guys need to meet some girls...

Koffein

23rd February 2007, 08:05 PM

I must say, the one part of this video I truly did enjoy was the sound of wind blowing through the trees. I'm ready for short-sleeved shirt weather. :cool2:

Oh, yes!
That's exacty what i was feeling!

samurai80

24th February 2007, 02:24 AM

They were responding with new posts like crazy. Then I wanted to know the name of his dojo and what rank he held since he was supposedly "head of the class". I haven't heard back from them anymore in the past couple days.

For more fun check out "kendo niten sparring" on youtube. They've been trouble before but they're back for more appearently. They have'nt answered any of my questions and now they are appearently kenjutsu masters as well.

Mr. T.

24th February 2007, 04:32 AM

For more fun check out "kendo niten sparring" on youtube. They've been trouble before but they're back for more appearently. They have'nt answered any of my questions and now they are appearently kenjutsu masters as well.

Yeah, I found these idiots (http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12877)a few weeks ago. It also meant the return of the forum favorite troll, Justin.

We had a little flame war, or rather some entertaining troll bashing :ko:

samurai80

24th February 2007, 05:34 AM

It's so hard to keep track of them. They keep posting under all these different names. My favorite is when I have them in a tough spot. They come to their own rescue under a different name. Truely sad. I thought I remembered your thread Mr. T. That was a truely entertaining thread.

Paikea

24th February 2007, 06:11 AM

These guys need to meet some girls...What have you got against the girls? :wink:

hunnysan

24th February 2007, 08:01 AM

What have you got against the girls? :wink:

hahaha that was too funny :silly: :silly:

samurai80

25th February 2007, 01:58 AM

Is there even HNIR in the U.S.?

ScottUK

25th February 2007, 02:02 AM

In Canada.

samurai80

25th February 2007, 09:56 AM

I didn't think there was.

neko kenshi

25th February 2007, 01:23 PM

*note to self: move to canada....

samurai80

26th February 2007, 09:29 AM

My little nerdling has informed me that his kendo dojo isn't a kendo dojo. He states that he attends IL KUM KWAN dojang(though he didn't say dojang)where he takes kendo somehow.He still insists he was head of the class, but for some reason he just decided not to go anymore. His "armor" is still there according to...well...him. Anyone know anything about this dojang? I guess the real question is does the dojang know about him?

Where are those idiots from the "niten kendo sparring" video from? I know they're from the U.S., so let me apologize to the rest of the world for that, but where in the U.S.?

Dervish

26th February 2007, 09:33 AM

Anyone know anything about this dojang?

http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2867

I'm not vouching for the information in this thread, but I suppose it's relative to this discussion since it appears to be a discussion of the very dojo in question.

samurai80

26th February 2007, 02:21 PM

Hmmm...I'm slowly losing interest in my youtube adventure, and quickly gaining interest in Il Kum Kwan. After reading that thread I glanced at some other threads with Il Kum Kwan. Seems like some shady business, but no one wants to admit it or something.

ScottUK

26th February 2007, 05:22 PM

Where are those idiots from the "niten kendo sparring" video from? I know they're from the U.S., so let me apologize to the rest of the world for that, but where in the U.S.?Maryland...

Andou

27th February 2007, 12:39 AM

I just did a quick search on www.auskf.info (http://www.auskf.info), and that one isn't part of the AUSKF (if anyone didn't guess). Is there another organization that would encompass them? I would hope that the guy's "dojang" isn't teaching him to fight like that! I would also hope (even moreso) that he isn't dirtying someone's name.

Oh Kendo/Kumdo be praised and save those children!

ScottUK

27th February 2007, 12:59 AM

I don't think people understand how small the JSA community is... :rolleyes:

samurai80

27th February 2007, 01:23 AM

By the way, the Swordteacher site is hilarious. I'm not quick to kiss ass, but that's pure genius!

samurai80

27th February 2007, 02:21 AM

I have new names to add to Justin's identity list. losNinja and Ledzaid
He uses them on various youtube kendo vids, including the videos being looked at in this thread. Same crappy english, even worse Japanese. Same arguments about kenjutsu, and same hatred towards anyone involved with kendo.

ScottUK

27th February 2007, 06:11 AM

You should email Igor with your findings. He awards, er, awards for Swordteacher hunting...

samurai80

27th February 2007, 06:44 AM

The lostjuly character on the "kendo sword fight round 2" video finally got caught in to many lies. He got me banned from posting. Hilarious! There is no better way to have him admit defeat. I'll just be gathering up this head here and be off to present it to the Shogun.

Cobra51

27th February 2007, 06:57 AM

samurai80

27th February 2007, 07:17 AM

southernkendoka

Cobra51

27th February 2007, 07:19 AM

southernkendoka

I thought so.:D

samurai80

27th February 2007, 09:06 AM

Boolatchka, that awesome son of a ... that site has to be the greatest backyard ninja adventure to date!

Blamps

27th February 2007, 09:54 PM

I think there should be a "hug a ninja day" in line with Cameron's "hug a hoodie" nonsense...perhaps they will feel special then and move back into the real world

samurai80

4th March 2007, 08:36 AM

whoever posted that last comment on the kendo sword fight vid. got him to take the ratings option off of his vid. as well. Keep up the good work.

Smasher666

16th September 2007, 03:47 AM

I do not practice Kendo at this time but am interested.

I am a member of a NYC school of Kenjutsu. Its called Shinkage Ryu also known as Yagyu Ryu. Means shadow school. This is the same school that instructed the Tokugawa 16 head masters ago.

I could not force myself through the sloppiness to get to the challenge to NYC dojo part. I do know that there are enough Kendo schools around here to sink a battleship though.

I would imagine in a city with 9 million people its pretty likely that at least a handful of Kendo practitioners in NYC could beat both these guys at the same time blindfolded. Perhaps even while drinking a glass of water.

I can tell you both of my Sensei certainly could do so.

Peace :alien:

Mr. T.

16th September 2007, 06:34 AM

That's a very bold claim mr. Smasher, considering koryu kenjutsu is very, very rare. Cold you be so kind to tell us the name of your sensei?

samurai80

16th September 2007, 07:04 AM

Wow. I totally forgot about this thread. A strange place for your first post. Even more strange to explain to a forum full of kendoka, iai, koryu people what Yagyu ryu is.

Oroshi

16th September 2007, 07:15 AM

Fortunately, guys, there is a group that practises YSKR in New York (the NY Yagyukai). Meik Skoss is a notable member (http://www.shutokukan.org/instructors.html). It's best not to be too distrusting, I think.

Smasher666: welcome to the forum.

samurai80

16th September 2007, 07:40 AM

All in good fun. Yes, welcome to KW.

ScottUK

16th September 2007, 05:51 PM

I can tell you both of my Sensei certainly could do so.Can you confirm that they are Meik and Diane Skoss please? ;)

hl1978

3rd October 2007, 03:55 AM

Neil Gendzwill

3rd October 2007, 03:59 AM

Watching backyard ninja/kendo/ is always amusing.

That being said, if you ever play by someone elses rules, whether they are SCA/ARMA, Naginata folks etc, even if you consider yourself to have better "form", you might be taken for surprise if you aren't used to some of the valid targets, other weapons (shields/staffs etc or use of wooden weapons like wasters), different styles of cuts and/or wild hits. At least that was my experience doing isshujiai with the naginataka at our school and having to defend the shins and no hits from tsuba zerai.

Of course putting backyard kendoka into a kendo setting with kendo rules is a different story.Eh. It strongly depends on level. I didn't have much trouble with naginataka nidan and under. It was an adjustment, but I didn't feel like it was too bad. The kyoshi I played was a whole 'nother story.

Between players who are closer, of course it will depend on whose rules and equipment you choose. It's not like we have a magic bullet with kendo or anything.

hl1978

3rd October 2007, 04:12 AM

Eh. It strongly depends on level. I didn't have much trouble with naginataka nidan and under. It was an adjustment, but I didn't feel like it was too bad. The kyoshi I played was a whole 'nother story.

Between players who are closer, of course it will depend on whose rules and equipment you choose. It's not like we have a magic bullet with kendo or anything.

One of my primary kendo teachers has a shodan in naginata and we have a yondan in naginata who teaches the atarashi naginata class at our dojo.

In his opinion, given equal ranking, the kendoka usually have an advantage up to shodan, but after shodan it the naginataka start to have a bit of an advantage. supposedly though, their practices tend to be a bit more kata oriented and don't spend as much time in bogu as we do in kendo.

That being said, I have only done it 3 times and absoutely loved it. It was a lot of fun to score men when they go for the shin.

Another guy at my school, recently had some fun playing with some SCA type guys who were using a shield and long sword (he felt nito would be a bit more advantagous in that situation since you could close the gap and stab with the shoto under their ruleset). That is of course an entirely different ballgame. Like anything it takes a while to get used to new rules and adapt to them.

Neil Gendzwill

3rd October 2007, 05:38 AM

The naginataka typically have more experience in isshu-jiai than the kendoka they face, plus they have the reach advantage. On the negative side, the naginataka usually have less shiai experience overall, or at least the ones I've met do. They seem a lot more kata-centric than kendo.

Smasher666

8th October 2007, 03:02 AM

That's a very bold claim mr. Smasher, considering koryu kenjutsu is very, very rare. Cold you be so kind to tell us the name of your sensei?

I hope I am not being too bold on this forum to simply state that I am a disciple of Shinkage Ryu.

Here is a link to my school. http://www.shinkageryu.us/ Shinkageryu Hyoho - The U.S. Marobashikai.

My Sensei is Masami Shioda who has studied Shinkage Ryu for over 35 years. Our other Sensei is Kaz Umehara who has been studying for 17 years. In 2002 Watanabe Tadashige came to NYC and established our school. He is the current owner of The Edo branch of Yagyu Shinkage Ryu. That being the branch of Yagyu Munenori who was the instructor of three Shoguns and thier courts. Ieyasu Tokugawa, Hidetada Tokugawa, and Iemitsu Tokugawa. Wantanabe visited the U.S> Marobashikai this year and has two books in ENglish on Shinkage Ryu.

My appologies Mr. T. if I have been too bold.

On another note anyone know of a good Kendo dojo in NYC?

Peace

Smasher666

8th October 2007, 08:17 AM

Greetings Samurai80,

I am not real sure what you are saying. I am posting here because I live in New York City and I thought it was funny that backyard Ninja are threatening to come up here and smack people around with a Shinai. Furthermore I am very interested in Kendo. I was thinking that perhaps this forum would be a nice place to ask questions to those more experienced than myself in Bujutsu. By way of introduction I posted that I am a member of Shinkage Ryu. Sorry if that seems strange to you. Is it permissible for people to join this forum and make posts? You seem a bit condescending. Is it ok with you if I use this forum? What is your point?

Mr. T.

8th October 2007, 05:53 PM

I hope I am not being too bold on this forum to simply state that I am a disciple of Shinkage Ryu.

Nah, that's not it. We've had our share of scamurai, ninjer, xma/kenjutsu flakes, it made me very sceptical toward folks claiming kenjustsu. So that's why I'm (kinda) rude when folks claim to be a student of kenjutsu. That's why I asked who your teachers are. I leave the checking of your school to others who know more about this than I do. But it looks legit to me, so:

Welcome to KWF, nice to have here on the forum :laugh:

My appologies Mr. T. if I have been too bold.

I think it's me who needs to apologize, sorry about the harsh approach.

Smasher666

9th October 2007, 03:42 AM

Greetings Mr T.,

As of yet I have not read The Teenage Mutant Ninjer Turtle Guide to Kenjutsu or even made Omote <1st rank> so I am not qualified enough to be a Ninjer yet.

I am a newbie and hope to learn something from this forum. I am not here to impart my all encompassing Ninjer knowledge. As I have none.

Thanks for the apology. After receiving negative responses I was thinking that this place was not too friendly.

Peace!

Nah, that's not it. We've had our share of scamurai, ninjer, xma/kenjutsu flakes, it made me very sceptical toward folks claiming kenjustsu. So that's why I'm (kinda) rude when folks claim to be a student of kenjutsu. That's why I asked who your teachers are. I leave the checking of your school to others who know more about this than I do. But it looks legit to me, so:

Welcome to KWF, nice to have here on the forum :laugh:

I think it's me who needs to apologize, sorry about the harsh approach.

sirius1906

9th October 2007, 04:49 AM

On another note anyone know of a good Kendo dojo in NYC?

Peace

There are a lot of good kendo dojos in the City: http://auskf.info/dojo/ny.htm

Here are a couple of dojos I know.

Ken Zen Institute:
54 Thomas St. (lower Manhattan, intersecting Church st.)
Kendo: Tue, Thur, Sat 7-9pm; Sun 12:30-2pm
Iaido (MJER): Wed 6-8pm; Sat 4-6pm

Saturday 2?-4pm Yagyu Shikage Ryu (I think)

Shidogakuin NY Doshikan
225 East 43rd St 2nd FL. (between 2-3 Ave.)
http://www.kendoka.org

ScottUK

9th October 2007, 06:09 AM

http://www.kenshin-kai.com/

samurai80

9th October 2007, 06:17 AM

Hey Smasher666, thanks for the negative rep. I see you left the comment that I'm an asshole. Seeing as how your interests include Greco Roman wrestling, I thought you would be more into assholes than to have given me such a negative comment. Please fell free to start kendo right away. I'm sure you are already used to objects ramming your throat, so you should do fine.

Paikea

9th October 2007, 06:32 AM

You can be better than that, Samurai80.

samurai80

9th October 2007, 06:44 AM

Yes sir, I apologize for my half-ass retaliation.

Smasher666

9th October 2007, 12:04 PM

Greetings Samurai80,

You are quite welcome for the negative rep buddy. touché! :)

Here is your quote” A strange place for your first post. Even more strange to explain to a forum full of kendoka, iai, koryu people what Yagyu ryu is."

I dont think I need your permission to use this forum. Also I do not really care what you think. When someone joins the forum in the future instead of attacking them with your narcissitic personality how about simply saying "Welcome to the forum."?

Just so you know I am married. That means I am heterosexual. You can stop fantasizing now. So pas de touché. Just so you know Greco Roman Wrestling is an Olympic sport. Just because you get aroused watching wrestling does not mean wrestling is gay. It means that you are a homosexual. I recommend a pink Shinai for you. :laugh:

I came here to use this forum. Not to tongue wrestle with you and make ugly posts. So if you don't like me being here then please learn to deal with it quietly. No one wants to read silly insults. I take it you have a knack for stirring up trouble?

But thanks for giving me a good laugh.

Peace!

Hey Smasher666, thanks for the negative rep. I see you left the comment that I'm an asshole. Seeing as how your interests include Greco Roman wrestling, I thought you would be more into assholes than to have given me such a negative comment. Please fell free to start kendo right away. I'm sure you are already used to objects ramming your throat, so you should do fine.

Smasher666

9th October 2007, 02:20 PM

I should not have made fun of you like that. I apologize.

I don’t like the fact that I have only made a few posts here and am already in a petty squabble. I was a bit insulted that you guys assumed I was a faker and that my Sensei etc. did not exist. I better go read some more Takuan Soho and Yagyu Munenori and try to lose my temper I suppose.

So I am going to check out of here and delete my account before this argument escalates and I say something that might dishonor me or more importantly before I say something that might dishonor the Marobashi-Kai.

Once again I apologize. I would have deleted the post but there seems to be no option for it.

Peace