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Tako-kun
19th August 2003, 05:20 AM
Anyone see this?

Story (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/02/1056825457398.html)

angryshinai
19th August 2003, 11:38 AM
Yeah, guilty of owning both swords and a crossbow here... Um pritty typical of the current victorian state government... Ill bet they will make us have to get a licence that will no doubt generate some more revenue for the bastards.

aru-ma
19th August 2003, 10:26 PM
Well this just blows, as I am aware there are some people who currently owns a katana for legitimate reasons (does the word iaido ring a bell?).

"It is about making them generally unavailable to those people who just want to carry them around, either for self-defence or to commit deliberately aggressive acts,"

In my 4 years of stay here in Melboune I have yet to see anyone visibly carrying a live blade for the said purpose, though the article may just prove otherwise.
probably the next thing I see is the victorian government banning shinai and bokuto, or maybe banning people who's minds are potentionaly dangerous to the government.

Just a general rant, what is with the Australian government? one isolated event leads to the banning of an object, albeit it being potentionaly dangerous.

I'll shut up and sit in my corner now :mad:

Flashman
20th August 2003, 01:30 AM
“Those who would sacrifice a little freedom for temporal safety deserve neither to be safe or free.”
- Benjamin Franklin

aru-ma
20th August 2003, 09:01 AM
“Those who would sacrifice a little freedom for temporal safety deserve neither to be safe or free.”
- Benjamin Franklin
that sort of the reverse of Mills (or was it Kant, cant remember) idea of security and freedom, something like "you have to give up certain liberties to gain certain securities"

but nevertheless, they've restricted gun ownership in Australia for a while now, but it doesn't stop those people who legaly owns it to go and shot people in public places. I dont know if most of you heard about or remember that shooting at Monash university last year (which resulted in the cancelation of one of my exams) but that guy owned the gun legaly, or so it says on the media.

angryshinai
21st August 2003, 09:41 PM
that sort of the reverse of Mills (or was it Kant, cant remember) idea of security and freedom, something like "you have to give up certain liberties to gain certain securities"

but nevertheless, they've restricted gun ownership in Australia for a while now, but it doesn't stop those people who legaly owns it to go and shot people in public places. I dont know if most of you heard about or remember that shooting at Monash university last year (which resulted in the cancelation of one of my exams) but that guy owned the gun legaly, or so it says on the media.

To be quite honnest if someone is motivated enough they are going to get hold of weapons anyway, either legaly or illegaly. The article states that machetes wont be banned because they have legitimate uses. Id say there are far more people attacked with machetes by gang related elements in Australia than people wielding "samurai swords".

Flashman
21st August 2003, 11:24 PM
To be quite honnest if someone is motivated enough they are going to get hold of weapons anyway, either legaly or illegaly. The article states that machetes wont be banned because they have legitimate uses. Id say there are far more people attacked with machetes by gang related elements in Australia than people wielding "samurai swords".


There is a fundamental rule of life, there are NO dangerous weapons, there are only dangerous people.

angryshinai
5th September 2003, 12:21 AM
Anybody heard any new news in relation to this??? I might even give the Victorian police a call and see if i can get some more details..

Kendoka
5th September 2003, 03:48 PM
Anybody heard any new news in relation to this??? I might even give the Victorian police a call and see if i can get some more details..

Angry shinai, the Victorian state association and Australian Kendo Renmei are working on submissions, which have to in on Monday the 8th.

Richard

lwegerich
30th September 2003, 05:34 AM
"It is about making them generally unavailable to those people who just want to carry them around, either for self-defence or to commit deliberately aggressive acts,"

In my 4 years of stay here in Melboune I have yet to see anyone visibly carrying a live blade for the said purpose, though the article may just prove otherwise.

Well, we just had a case here in Germany. A psycho heavily injured a young woman on the street with his katana after going bezerk in a samurai style dress. *Sigh*

Nevertheless I don't see a reason to prohibit the posession of these weapons. Otherwise you'll have to ban hammers etc.

Even my fists are dangerous....I'm doing Karate as well as Kendo....lol

Lars