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nodachi
26th August 2003, 04:45 AM
I am looking for some really cool looking Kendo pictures that I can print out and put on the wall of my classroom. Links and attached pictures are appreciated.

Raígma
26th August 2003, 08:16 PM
I am looking for some really cool looking Kendo pictures that I can print out and put on the wall of my classroom. Links and attached pictures are appreciated.

Here we go.

I hope this attachement thingies can take some bytes.
I don't know where I got them from... I just saved them and here you get them.

Raígma
26th August 2003, 08:20 PM
Just 5 files?
I hope I don't mess up your forum guys.

Go for more:

Raígma
26th August 2003, 08:21 PM
Hm.. once more.

nodachi
26th August 2003, 10:32 PM
So we don't mess up the forum, provide links if possible. Sorry for a potentially dangerous thread to the stability of the forum.

I have yet to find any really dramatic pictures to put on my wall. Yes, there are pictures of strong kamae and such, but I haven't found good quality pics of good hits or any other miscelaneous action shots.

Is blurring inevitable on kendo pictures? I am no photographer.

Raígma
26th August 2003, 10:58 PM
*sigh*
It was worth a try hm?

alexpollijr
26th August 2003, 11:38 PM
Is blurring inevitable on kendo pictures? I am no photographer.

Me neither, but higher ISO settings (400 and above ) seem to minimize the problem, just don't ask me to explain it.

- Alexandre

Old Warrior
27th August 2003, 12:17 AM
I'm not a professional photographer, but I am old enough to have owned cameras that required manual adjustment and the use of a light meter. I will bet that a shutter speed of 1/1000 will avoid blurring, but you will then need a faster speed film (above 400) and the lens aperature needs to be at near the highest setting. This is a trial and error process for us amateurs.

nodachi
27th August 2003, 02:11 AM
*sigh*
It was worth a try hm?

I mean no disrespect or anything. It is just an afterthought. I wouldn't want to contribute to crashing the board or any other problems because of eating up the memory with too many attachments from people. Thank you for the pictures. Just thought I would ammend things a bit. A functioning board is a happy board, after all...

mingshi
27th August 2003, 02:36 AM
Try obtaining a copy of Kendo Nippon or Kendo Jidai. Always some blown-up dramatic photos there.

Kendo World issue #2 has a photo of shinai-bending Tsuki as well...

I'll be experimenting with ISO 1600 and 3200 in next few months' local Taikai. I'll see how grainy it can get... Photos of my site (see my sig) were taken with a roll of 800. Quality is okay.

amatsuda
27th August 2003, 05:33 AM
One of me....

D'Artagnan
27th August 2003, 09:08 PM
Don't forget, the higher the ISO rating the granier the image.

my general rule of thumb is to try and use as low an ISO rating as possible. i have taken pretty clear shots on ISO 400 slide film, and even as low as ISO 100 (for this a flash is vital).

hope this helps

a

heri0n
27th August 2003, 10:23 PM
whats up with that zen kendo style :|

mingshi
27th August 2003, 11:30 PM
i have taken pretty clear shots on ISO 400 slide film
Damn, I hate slide film! Everything just looks good on it no matter what!! It's just the size that makes a difference, and not the content!!! Arrrghhh

Also, you can't use flash during a Taikai! The only option is use a higher ISO with max. aperture ...besides getting a digital that is.

Kiki
28th August 2003, 12:32 AM
This is a picture I took during double overtime in final yudansha match at SoCal Individual Championships in 2001. The sensei on the ground was holding his position so as not get get knocked out of bounds when the attacking sensei launched his men attempt. He had no where to go but up. I can still hear the gasp of the crowd every time I see this picture. The sensei on the ground won the title. He doesn’t like this picture, “That’s not kendo” but I love it.

xvikingx
28th August 2003, 09:31 AM
Thats pretty cool... Kiki who was that?

Kiki
28th August 2003, 09:39 AM
Tanigawa Sensei (lower) and the other sensei I can't remember his name but he is from the SCKF. I will find out for you.

xvikingx
28th August 2003, 10:50 AM
Thats quite a leap, especially while in bogu! That would have been great to see. Kiki what dojo are you from?

D'Artagnan
28th August 2003, 09:13 PM
Damn, I hate slide film! Everything just looks good on it no matter what!! It's just the size that makes a difference, and not the content!!! Arrrghhh

Also, you can't use flash during a Taikai! The only option is use a higher ISO with max. aperture ...besides getting a digital that is.


i must say i dissagree with your point about slide film as i view all my slides through a projector and scan them with a neg. scanner, but i see your point about not using a flash during taikai. However, i found i didn't need a flash with iso 400, however, the lighting conditions were pretty good. i suppose it depends also on equipment, I have always found that a long range telephoto lens (i.e. focal length 300mm) to be pretty useless for kendo photography. As it's rarely that hard to get close enough to the action, and you often find yourself compromising apperture for focal length (often having to shoot at around f5.6). I personally favour my 28-105mm lens as this allows me just enough focal length, whilst allowing me to shoot at f2.8-f4. or of course digital is an expensive but effective soloution.

a

Kiki
29th August 2003, 08:37 AM
Thats quite a leap, especially while in bogu! That would have been great to see. Kiki what dojo are you from?

Osaka Sangyo (OSULA) aka Studio City Dojo

The guy just flew. He had no where to go but up.

FTR: I was using Nikon FE2 with a 105 Nikor, 2.5 - 1/500
800 ASA. The Wilson Park Gym is well lit which helps a lot.

mingshi
29th August 2003, 08:45 AM
Argh. I only have a 28mm and 50mm with me (borrowed from my Dad). Can't be bothered with the tele lens as well. I remember the fastest I can get (no flash) is 1/30s with a f2.8, ISO800. So basically there is no solution to bad lighting if I want some "frozen pics" without going to higher ISO hmmm?

Notice all the pics in the Kendo mags are mainly by digital now...?

BTW there is this annual kendo photo competition hosted by ZNKR. Prize is quite good I suppose (300,000 yen top; a few 100,000 prizes as well). But it is usually in Aug. This year's submission deadline is Aug 29!! Check here if you are interested: (Japanese) http://www.kendo.or.jp/jp/news/photocon2003.html

D'Artagnan
29th August 2003, 06:58 PM
Argh. I only have a 28mm and 50mm with me (borrowed from my Dad). Can't be bothered with the tele lens as well. I remember the fastest I can get (no flash) is 1/30s with a f2.8, ISO800. So basically there is no solution to bad lighting if I want some "frozen pics" without going to higher ISO hmmm?

Notice all the pics in the Kendo mags are mainly by digital now...?

BTW there is this annual kendo photo competition hosted by ZNKR. Prize is quite good I suppose (300,000 yen top; a few 100,000 prizes as well). But it is usually in Aug. This year's submission deadline is Aug 29!! Check here if you are interested: (Japanese) http://www.kendo.or.jp/jp/news/photocon2003.html

If the lighting is so bad that you meter 1/30 @ f2.8 on ISO800, then yes i think higher iso is the only option other than digital.

Thanks for the link, i'll check that out.

p.s. do you know what the lighting be like @ the lidstone, i believe it's at Nenriki.

cheers

A

LNGUYEN
29th August 2003, 10:30 PM
If you have bad lighting and 800 ISO film, you need fast lens with f 2.8 (at least), f 1.4 is better. Also, you need to push your film to 1600 or 3200 if need for faster speed. However, you have to let the custom lab (not Walgreen or Walmart) know about the pushing so they can process your film appropriately. Slide film is better for pushing than Print film. Most of beautiful sport pictures for advertising are staged so the photographer would have every thing even 3 or 4 flashes at 3 or 4 different angles. For the actual actions, the Pro just shoot the same way I told you, fast lens and push the films. Try it.

mingshi
30th August 2003, 12:55 AM
Artagnan-san,
For the Lidstones, the octagonal gladiator pit we have has a natural light well from on top, and there are windows from the sides as well. BUT expect that if the day is a normal London day, the weather will not do any favour, as the sky is always in dull grey :(

Lnguyen-san,
Thanks for the advice, but I forgot... How to push the film...? Argh, I mean I know I can get a film lab to push process, but do I have to adjust the setting on my camera one stop up or down? (please describe in detail :p)

LNGUYEN
30th August 2003, 01:05 AM
Push film is just a technical term. It means you set your camera at the desirable speed (1600 or 3200) while you have 800 ISO film. You trick the camera to think that you have faster film. so with 800 film set at 3200 you can shoot four time faster. Let say if you have enough light for 1/60 f2.8, now you can shoot at 1/250 f2.8. If you have f1.4 lens, now you can shoot at 1/500 f1.4. The thing is you have to tell you custom lab of what you did. Try with slide film first because slide film have the potential of pushing then try negative later. Cheers.

JSchmidt
31st August 2003, 04:27 PM
Minghi, use Snappy Shots (Or is it Snappy Snaps, I forget the name of that chain) on Poland Street. Despite being your standard photo-developer chain, they're used to dealing with pro's at that branch.

Jakob

mingshi
4th September 2003, 02:19 AM
Oh I found something from a Korean site (but it's from one of the WKC... JPN vs TPE):

http://www.orientalworks.com/data/database/E0068/20020731133658.jpg

As always, Tsuki is the most dramatic thing you can see in Kendo :D

etherknot
4th September 2003, 03:46 AM
There is this annual kendo photo competition hosted by ZNKR. Prize is quite good I suppose (300,000 yen top; a few 100,000 prizes as well). But it is usually in Aug. This year's submission deadline is Aug 29!! Check here if you are interested: (Japanese) http://www.kendo.or.jp/jp/news/photocon2003.html

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Why didn't I read this when you posted it?! :cry:
I have a few really nice photos I took from this year. Any purse collected for any of the entries sure would have helped with bogu purchases.
Perhaps next year I will be more aware of said contest. : :ermm:

Kiki
4th September 2003, 06:58 AM
FTR: I was using Nikon FE2 with a 105 Nikor, 2.5 - 1/500
800 speed
Durrr... it was 1/1000. :rolleyes:


Argh. I only have a 28mm and 50mm with me (borrowed from my Dad).
I was using my dad’s equipment too.
and thanks for the link about the contest. I am marking my calendar for next year...

The other person in my picture maybe Nakagawa san from SCKF.

rattlebones
18th September 2003, 09:43 PM
hey fellow Kendo player.

I have a few martial art pic on my website. I have one that is of a Kendo Dragon you might like. It is a replica of one I did for my Kendo Sensei. I have been in the martial arts for 33 years and just started Kendo a couple of years ago. I have always wanted to train in Kendo, but until fate offered the opportunity I was unable to find a teacher. I love Kendo as much as anyting in the martial arts I have ever done!
Hope you enjoy the website. Good luck in your training and pray forme in mine. Bill

website: http://store.yahoo.com/martialartworks.



I am looking for some really cool looking Kendo pictures that I can print out and put on the wall of my classroom. Links and attached pictures are appreciated.

mingshi
24th September 2003, 08:49 PM
http://www.kendo.or.jp/jp/news/2003-PhoteContest.html

This year's contest winning pictures are here!

aru-ma
24th September 2003, 09:53 PM
kendo on gravel? ouch, good thing those kids are wearing shoes, or else it's fumikomi on the rocks ( sounds like a name for a drink to me :grin: )

QuadMan
19th October 2003, 02:38 AM
Here are pictures from me :) Very nice...

Chook
4th November 2003, 08:06 PM
That is a brilliant shot.