I wish to learn Scottish accent

[Kyung]

Hello folks. Would anyone enlighten me in the way which a Scotsman would talk?
So far, from what I have heard, most of u and o sounds are umlauted like in German...

[Decado]

Hello folks. Would anyone enlighten me in the way which a Scotsman would talk?
So far, from what I have heard, most of u and o sounds are umlauted like in German...

See "Braveheart" in English - Mel Gibson does quite a good job I gather. And wear a kilt in very cold weather - that helps. Drink lots of whiskey, eat lots of white pudding and fried Mars Bars.

The Scots speak English just like us Sassenachs (well, not exactly like us but close enough) - no umlauts!

Unless you mean Gaelic which is a celtic language.

[Neil Gendzwill]

"Damn you, Trebek!"

[kartoffelngeist]

I feel the need to point out here, that a Scottish accent is the same as an English (or American for that matter, but we all know that all Americans have a deep southern accent...) accent in the sense that it doesn't really exist...

[Ignatz]

This could help:

http://www.firstfoot.com/php/glossary/phpglossar_0.8/index.php?letter=g

[KhawMengLee]

Watch 'Trainspotting'...hehehe

[Sparv]

My mother who spent years in Scotland says that they have a very funny way to say th "rl" like in world or girl.

[JCM]

:D
I feel the need to point out here, that a Scottish accent is the same as an English (or American for that matter, but we all know that all Americans have a deep southern accent...) accent in the sense that it doesn't really exist...

Can you repeat that?, didn't get it, is the accent :D

[Neil Gendzwill]

Not that wiki is reliable, but there's an entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_English).

[Decado]

This could help:

http://www.firstfoot.com/php/glossary/phpglossar_0.8/index.php?letter=g

Thanks for that Ignatz. Gammy will be useful next time I visit Scotland.

[Dave_petrucci]

Mel Gibson really does a bad, bad job of the Scottish accent.

[Decado]

My mother who spent years in Scotland says that they have a very funny way to say th "rl" like in world or girl.

There's a lot of rolling of the r's up there.

[lucy]

Read Diana Gabaldon's "Outlander" series. :D

Ye cannae whack it!

Oh, and I love this:

What for maun we thole wee laddies
when they are sic awfu baddies!
For ensample let me save ye
frae a pair like Dod and Davie
wha insteid o tryin harder
to be guid lads, get nae farder;
slee wee deils, they smirck and snicker,
lauchin gars their badness siccar.

Hope I didn't mix anything up there... :D

[Decado]

Mel Gibson really does a bad, bad job of the Scottish accent.

I know, but for someone not from these Isles it's a start, sort of a Scottish primer. How about Billy Connolly? I have friends who have no idea what he is saying. Never had a problem myself.

[Manuka]

Just read Robbie Burns poems

aloud

daily

[Decado]

Read Diana Gabaldon's "Outlander" series. :D

Ye cannae whack it!

Oh, and I love this:

What for maun we thole wee laddies
when they are sic awfu baddies!
For ensample let me save ye
frae a pair like Dod and Davie
wha insteid o tryin harder
to be guid lads, get nae farder;
slee wee deils, they smirck and snicker,
lauchin gars their badness siccar.

Hope I didn't mix anything up there... :D

Was that Burns?

Funnily enough, most Scots I know and have met don't speak like that. It's a great accent (except for Gordon Brown's).

[Ignatz]

I feel the need to point out here, that a Scottish accent is the same as an English (or American for that matter, but we all know that all Americans have a deep southern accent...) accent in the sense that it doesn't really exist...

In certain parts of the Outer Banks of North Carolina (Okrakoke, Hatteras, Wanchese) they speak kind of an Olde pre Elizabethan English. Many of the inhabitants are descendants from shipwreck survivors, pirates etc.

Years ago I went to a birthday party for my friend's grandmother and when she started talking to me my first reaction was "Huh? What language is this?" In a short time I recognized it because they made me read Chaucer in the original when I was in high school.

[lucy]

Was that Burns?



No, just a (most probably crappy) "translation" of Max and Moritz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_und_Moritz). :)

[Kenzan]

Hello folks. Would anyone enlighten me in the way which a Scotsman would talk?
German...

Easy.
Just shove 10 packs of bubble gum on your mouth, and then smack your hand hard with a hammer.
You'll be speaking Scottish straightaway.
:D

[satsumaruma]

See "Braveheart" in English - Mel Gibson does quite a good job I gather. .

In the immortal words of Jock Hopson Sensei. "no no no no no"

Scene from Braveheart.

" G'day. The name's William Wallace and you'll never take me freedom" (please utilise an accent borrowed from Neighbours, Home and Away, Skippy or any other Mel Gibson film and you will get the idea.)

Scottish ( or skaw-tish to give it its real pronunciation) is best heard abroad.

Where, as an Englishman, one can enjoy the idyllic sounds of the response of any Scawttish prrrson being approached by timeshare rep/lucky lucky man/pub tout et al. "ah'm no fakkin' 'eng-leish" - This is response to the introductory remark made by aforesaid persons vending their wares - "'ello English you buy from Mig..".

Ahh the sweet sweet sounds of summer holidays everywhere in Europe.

[Dave_petrucci]

I know, but for someone not from these Isles it's a start, sort of a Scottish primer. How about Billy Connolly? I have friends who have no idea what he is saying. Never had a problem myself.
Yep, Billy is a classic representation of a Glesgah' accent.

[Sparv]

I've just typed "scottish accent" on youtube and... I found the vids from this guy (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=crehnquist).
His scottish accent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OdQr3BSnFA)

[satsumaruma]

According to Billy you speka Scottish by sticking your hands in your pockets when you speak and gesticulate with your feet.

So if you are asked if you know where the High Street is you can just say " aye, ah ken, it reet doon past the brae yuh knoww" during which you will have swivelled one foot to point in the direction of the High Street. See? Easy.

[hobbit]

Try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwm0l4hPToc :p

[Andoru]

Make sure to use the word "wee" alot.

[JoDuncan]

First step: Ignore the English and Americans and what they perceive to be a "Scots" accent.

Being that I'm an Easterner (and have probably very little "Scot" blood in me) i don't speak with a Scot's accent. I do sound Scottish though... nae like a ned though.

Yes, we: the skirted, blood drinking, claymore swinging, haggis eating, bagpipe playing, ginger heided heathens from the North do speak English!

We are all incredibly civilized you know, TV's n' a'hin.

[Neil Gendzwill]

I have relatives from Elgin. When they start speaking fast (which is, most of the time), I have a hard time understanding them.

[Nkd666]

.....they have a very funny way to say th "rl" like in world or girl.

True. Try asking a Scot to say 'burglar alarm' for hilarious results.

[Dave_petrucci]

True. Try asking a Scot to say 'burglar alarm' for hilarious results.
Haha, we actually say that quite normally.

We certainly don't say it "Burulgalar alarum"

[Nkd666]

We certainly don't say it "Burulgalar alarum"

Then the population of Lesmahagow must have been humouring me all weekend.:tongue:

[KhawMengLee]

Drink ten pints of Guinness and you'll be speaking the universal tongue...doesn't matter where you are in the world. Put a Chinese, Japanese, Irishman, Scot, American, Italian etc etc together with a keg and after ten or so pints they'll all be speaking/garbling the same sounds and somehow make sense of it.

Alcohol...the universal translator.

[Kyung]

I thought there were different versions of Scottish accent...like Edinburg accent and Glasgow accent and some other one? I don't know how dependable Monty Python is but the accent I heard on it had a lot of umlaut vowels and very snappy consonants

[kartoffelngeist]

Haha, we actually say that quite normally.

We certainly don't say it "Burulgalar alarum"

I say burgulur alarum...

Billy Connelly is the best model for the West, and Trainspotting for the East.

[Dave_petrucci]

I thought there were different versions of Scottish accent...like Edinburg accent and Glasgow accent and some other one? I don't know how dependable Monty Python is but the accent I heard on it had a lot of umlaut vowels and very snappy consonants

Yeah, just like every country there are differant varations of the accent. My family comes from Edinburgh, which is a much more subtle accent than the Glasgow or Northern accent.

[sjp]

All useless advice so far.

What you want is this:

http://www.pagan.clara.net/rab.htm

Rab is the man.

[KhawMengLee]

I say burgulur alarum...

Billy Connelly is the best model for the West, and Trainspotting for the East.

Heh, I remember eating at a Japanese restaurant in Glascow during the 2003 WKC trying to chat to the cute waitress and then realising I could not understand a single word she said...had to then talk to her in cantonese(yup, she was from Hong Kong).

[Kyung]

Heh, I remember eating at a Japanese restaurant in Glascow during the 2003 WKC trying to chat to the cute waitress and then realising I could not understand a single word she said...had to then talk to her in cantonese(yup, she was from Hong Kong).

Was she talking cantonese in scottish accent?

[satsumaruma]

Edinburgh accent is quite sing-songy compared to the harsher gutteral-nes of the Glaswegian brogue.

My wife is from Ayrshire and it is even worse than Glaswegian especially when they go full throttle but you do get used to it and I Do get by when I am in Ayr. I have got so good that the locals don't usually know I am English until I ask for a pint of bitter ( which the Scots don't usually drink).

Funnily enough if you go very north in Scotland they tend to speak English quite purely and with very little accent at all.

I agree with whoever said 10 pints of grog - drink this much anywhere on the planet and you understand everything.

[Kyung]

I should take a trip there once or so...I've only heard a genuine Scot speak once over the internet. And his accent wasn't too bad. I believe his accent was Edinburg. But other accents I heard I believe are sham...like the Fat Bastard from Austin Powers, and the janitor from Simpsons, and that guy who wears a kilt in Freakazoid...although I think Monty Python may be a rather reliable source. I don't think I've heard the uber gutteral accents

[KhawMengLee]

Was she talking cantonese in scottish accent?

hehe, nah, thank god for that...her canto was spot on. I tend to change my accent depending who I talk to as well.



I agree with whoever said 10 pints of grog - drink this much anywhere on the planet and you understand everything.

I discovered that little pearl on my first trip to Japan. I was in some random bar in Kyushu, with 20 uni students and a shit load of Sake...an hour later we were having a deep meaningfull conversation with everyone nodding their heads in aquiescense...


All useless advice so far.

What you want is this:

http://www.pagan.clara.net/rab.htm

Rab is the man.

Bwahahahahahaaa...watching it now on youtuuuube.

[kartoffelngeist]

A much better Sottish comedy, is early (the later ones are shite) Chewin the Fat, or Still Game.

[Erik Tracy]

I can't vouch for what the native Scots think of this - but I larned some new slang!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IKnv0QIemw&NR

Set phasers to malky!
Erik

[KhawMengLee]

Scotland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh5OrE3LuFY)...:D

[Kenshi]

Check out some Rab C (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rab+c+nesbitt). I played a youtube vid to my yank mate a couple of months back and he had no idea what was going on... thats Glasgow for you.

Fat Bastard gets the thumbs up.

The north of Scotland is know for its friendly and soft accent, like mine.

[Inner_Silence]

try to exange the vocals for "oo"
for example

Right now i am going to buy a pack of cigarretes

rooit now oim gaoin to bouy a pack of cigs.

[xvikingx]

cigs
fags..........

[Spendius]

although I think Monty Python may be a rather reliable source.

Like the poet Mc Teagel ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxpyuVWh9a8

[Mike Molloy]

Rab C. Nesbitt is without doubt the most accurate TV depiction of a Glaswegian accent! (If you want proof go and train with the Taiseidokai mob...)

Mel Gibson may have murdered the accent in Braveheart, but the one that *really* gets on my tits is Mike Myers as Shrek...:angry:
The film is very funny but his pathetic attempt at a Scots accent really grates.

[KhawMengLee]

try to exange the vocals for "oo"
for example

Right now i am going to buy a pack of cigarretes

rooit now oim gaoin to bouy a pack of cigs.

Nah, you'd sound more like one of the thumbless(the brit version of redneck) from the Somerset area...

[xvikingx]

Check out some Rab C (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rab+c+nesbitt).

"YOU are the hand the BOUGHT THE TICKET!!!"
My God, this has got me crying.

[Kenshi]

"YOU are the hand the BOUGHT THE TICKET!!!"
My God, this has got me crying.

I grew up with this.... gonna watch more now...

[MikeH]

For those who've mentioned Mel Gibson in Braveheart. Huh?

Mel Gibson - Braveheart is to Scottish accents as Dick Van Dyke - Mary Poppins is to London accents as James Coburn - The Great Escape is to Australian accents.

I'm from London, have lived in Aberdeen for 3.5 years and haven't had a problem understanding anyone unless they were speaking doric. With the exception of Bill from Buckie who works here in the dept and who nobody can understand, even the local Aberdonians. :puzzled:

However when I've been to Glasgow I've often had severe brain ache trying to understand the locals. Less so in Edinburgh.

Mike

[kartoffelngeist]

However when I've been to Glasgow I've often had severe brain ache trying to understand the locals. Less so in Edinburgh.

Mike

I have more trouble up here than down in Glasgow. Don't understand half of what people say in Aberdeen.
I remember Mike (or someone else) commenting about Jo and I having Weegie v Doric matches. I didn't think I was particularly weegie, but there you go!

Just for the sake of sharing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZw2tkgw__g

[JoDuncan]

You do realise that you all are welcome to come and visit us!

We're not that bad.

Amusing thread... Still game is one of my favourites, Rab C is very old and i haven't seen any in such a long time i'm wondering if the humour is dated.

As for the "rl" sound... not so many of you are quite as quick to mock the Japanese for their r's and l's... interesting. My favourite examples of "rl" have to be "cheeseburlgerl" or "arlse hole".

Most people in budo (ninjers excluded) tend to be a bit better educated than the average and as such dinnae shpik like minkers min.

Huge East-West divide in terms of accent. Weegies (glaswegians) tend to sound nasal and us easterners tend to sound more throaty i think. Over here is the east we speak a dialect of English called Doric; the different dialects of a country often shape the accents of the regions to which they are specific due to different sounds being emphasised.

Man, i really hope there are japanese neds. What are the sales of "kappa" and "sergio tacchini" over there ;)

I must stress that they are NEDS and NOT CHAVS!

[lucy]

You do realise that you all are welcome to come and visit us!


I'll remind you of that when I've got the money together to finally go to Scotland next year. :D

[Kenshi]

I'll remind you of that when I've got the money together to finally go to Scotland next year. :D

www.ediinburghkendo.co.uk

[KhawMengLee]

etc

Rab C is pretty feckin' funny, so far I've seen 'Rat' and 'Holiday' (Looks like I'll be ordering the dvds soon)...I dunno about it being dated tho' but then again I grew up watching stuff like yes minister, yes prime minister, only when I laugh, It ain't 'alf hot mum, mind yer language and of course my favourite Dr Down Under.

The Japanese don't have a problem with the 'R's it's the 'L's. Thing's like 'lovely' becomes 'Ruvry' hehhehe...its us Chinese fellows that say 'Flied lice...'


"YOU are the hand the BOUGHT THE TICKET!!!"
My God, this has got me crying.

Well, you know what we'll be trying to go warbling in when Donny and me get drunk with you guys ;)

Incidentally, a good mate of ours is having his stag this weeked and he's gotta dress up in viking regalia...will forward pics for your approval/horror later.

[kartoffelngeist]

www.ediinburghkendo.co.uk

I think what kenshi means is this (http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~src374/index.html). ;)

[MikeH]

I think what kenshi means is this (http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~src374/index.html). ;)

I wouldn't pay any attention to that website. I made it.....

Mike

[kartoffelngeist]

Man, i really hope there are japanese neds. What are the sales of "kappa" and "sergio tacchini" over there ;)

I must stress that they are NEDS and NOT CHAVS!

I hope there are, that would be proper class. Are there kanji for 'Am goannae chib you ya bass'?

[kartoffelngeist]

I wouldn't pay any attention to that website. I made it.....

Mike

It'll give me something to play with over the summer.

*waits for childish joke from Jo*

[Kenshi]

I think what kenshi means is this (http://www.abdn.ac.uk/~src374/index.html). ;)

No.... no, its not. Isnt that like comparing Homer to Santas little helper?

'Am goannae chib you ya bass' =　おめえぇ、いっぺん指しってやるぜ ... nah, you cant get the same feeling across.

[kartoffelngeist]

No.... no, its not. Isnt that like comparing Homer to Santas little helper?

'Am goannae chib you ya bass' =　おめえぇ、いっぺん指しってやるぜ ... nah, you cant get the same feeling across.

Nah, I wouldn't call EKC santa's little helper...;)

[Kenshi]

Nah, I wouldn't call EKC santa's little helper...;)

im threatening a visit in August you know....

[JoDuncan]

It'll give me something to play with over the summer.

*waits for childish joke from Jo*

*Inserts one childish joke here*

In preparation for all your visists to aberdeen; a brief lesson in vocab:

Nit = no
Fit = What
Why = Foo = How
How = Why
Far = Where (That's the favourite among other Scottish people calling some of us "Furry boots" on account of "where abouts" = "Far Aboots". ;) )
F'like = fit like = how are you
Min = Man
Miiiiiiin = Awww man
at = that
hing = thing
ere = there

f'like en min? = how's it going man?
fit's at? = what's that?
fit's fit? = what's what?
at hing o'er ere = that thing over there.

:D heehee
You can probably get by with "naebad" when somebody ass you anything you think you might agree with. Getting offered something you don't want a lot of warrants the use of "Suppy" (A little) or "Naaaa, yer a'right" for an outright no thanks.

A lot of the weird terms in "scottish" come from old Celtic, Germanic and French terms and just lazy english becoming the norm.

Slater min!

[Mike Molloy]

You forgot to mention "loons" and "quines"...:D

[Decado]

try to exange the vocals for "oo"
for example

Right now i am going to buy a pack of cigarretes

rooit now oim gaoin to bouy a pack of cigs.

Actually, that would be Black Country. Yoim all rooit! Oim all roight!

(Black Country is Wolverhampton and Dudley - or Dudloi as it is more colloquially know).

[Drew]

And what part of Scotishland do 'Geordies' come from?

[satsumaruma]

Div'n nah hinny.

;)

[Kenshi]

And what part of Scotishland do 'Geordies' come from?

The part we didnt want and gave back to England. Its kind of like the DMZ...

[JoDuncan]

You forgot to mention "loons" and "quines"...:D

I also wrote "ass" instead of "ask"

Assing someone a question.....how is that done tattie?
:D

[lucy]

Seriously guys, after checking all your websites, a combined Scotland/Kendo trip is in order! :) With so many great dojos in such a nice country, my next holidays are already planned. Money will set the limits, I guess, but I'll rely on the locals to point me to reasonably priced accomodation. :D

So, let's see. Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, St. Andrew's, ...
Additionally a day trip into the Highlands... Sounds like a perfect holiday to me. :D

Do you have any advice for such a trip?

*sorry for the drift, but the topic is still close... isn't it?* :nervous: :D

[shred_lord]

Um..... make sure you bring waterproofs :D

[lucy]

Um..... make sure you bring waterproofs :D

There is no bad weather, just the wrong clothes. :D

[shred_lord]

Good attitude, you'll do well here! :)

[lucy]

Good attitude, you'll do well here! :)

I have a dog, so no petty excuses about bad weather! :) Oh, and I like the British Isles as a whole, rain included. :)

[Dave_petrucci]

I have a dog, so no petty excuses about bad weather! :) Oh, and I like the British Isles as a whole, rain included. :)

It's not just rain. It's cold rain. The type of rain that makes a grown man cry.

We love dogs over here, actually we just love pets in general. He/She'll love it over here.

[kartoffelngeist]

Seriously guys, after checking all your websites, a combined Scotland/Kendo trip is in order! :) With so many great dojos in such a nice country, my next holidays are already planned. Money will set the limits, I guess, but I'll rely on the locals to point me to reasonably priced accomodation. :D

So, let's see. Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, St. Andrew's, ...
Additionally a day trip into the Highlands... Sounds like a perfect holiday to me. :D

Do you have any advice for such a trip?

*sorry for the drift, but the topic is still close... isn't it?* :nervous: :D

Yes! Come to Scotland. You'll get cheap easyjet flights from Germany to Glasgow/Edinburgh (depending on how easyjet are feeling it seems...), so it's quite do-able.

We don't get much rain in Aberdeen, actually. Hardly ever rains. Just cold winds and clouds.

[Bailemor]

Seriously guys, after checking all your websites, a combined Scotland/Kendo trip is in order! :) With so many great dojos in such a nice country, my next holidays are already planned. Money will set the limits, I guess, but I'll rely on the locals to point me to reasonably priced accomodation. :D

So, let's see. Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, St. Andrew's, ...
Additionally a day trip into the Highlands... Sounds like a perfect holiday to me. :D

Do you have any advice for such a trip?

*sorry for the drift, but the topic is still close... isn't it?* :nervous: :D

If you are coming over dont forget the Iaido Clubs, in Glasgow(MSR) and Edinburgh(MJER) as well.

David

[Dave_petrucci]

If you are coming over dont forget the Iaido Clubs, in Glasgow(MSR) and Edinburgh(MJER) as well.

David
Great plug Dave.

[Sparv]

Just cold winds and clouds.

I heard rumors saying that the sun has not been seen in Scotland since the first day of the Genesis.

[JoDuncan]

I heard rumors saying that the sun has not been seen in Scotland since the first day of the Genesis.

Nope... it shines out of my arse

[kartoffelngeist]

et tu casses...

[Kyung]

Like the poet Mc Teagel ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxpyuVWh9a8

Wow..you read my mind lol I was looking for this too! Thanks!

[lucy]

If you are coming over dont forget the Iaido Clubs, in Glasgow(MSR) and Edinburgh(MJER) as well.

David

I won't! :) Do you have loaner iaito? I do Seitei and MSR, but one has to look beyond one's own nose, no? :)

[Decado]

For those who've mentioned Mel Gibson in Braveheart. Huh?

Mel Gibson - Braveheart is to Scottish accents as Dick Van Dyke - Mary Poppins is to London accents as James Coburn - The Great Escape is to Australian accents.

I'm from London, have lived in Aberdeen for 3.5 years and haven't had a problem understanding anyone unless they were speaking doric. With the exception of Bill from Buckie who works here in the dept and who nobody can understand, even the local Aberdonians. :puzzled:

However when I've been to Glasgow I've often had severe brain ache trying to understand the locals. Less so in Edinburgh.

Mike

No way is it that bad! The way Dick van Dyke murders the Cockney accent (and, trust me, it deserves to be put down) is frightening. At least Mel G had some accent training. Okay, it's Ozzie Scottish (Och aye the noo and g'day Bruce) but at least he makes an effort.

For difficult to understand accents you ought to try the local Gornal accent here in the Black Country.

[Decado]

The part we didnt want and gave back to England. Its kind of like the DMZ...

The Scots had first choice and chose north of the border. The Geordies had second choice! :silly:

[Decado]

Seriously guys, after checking all your websites, a combined Scotland/Kendo trip is in order! :) With so many great dojos in such a nice country, my next holidays are already planned. Money will set the limits, I guess, but I'll rely on the locals to point me to reasonably priced accomodation. :D

So, let's see. Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, St. Andrew's, ...
Additionally a day trip into the Highlands... Sounds like a perfect holiday to me. :D

Do you have any advice for such a trip?

*sorry for the drift, but the topic is still close... isn't it?* :nervous: :D

Dinna forget Loch Ness, wee lassie. You might see the monster said to inhabit the Loch. And don't forget the Cairngorm mountains - a bit like the Bavarian Alps but wilder.

If you go to St Andrews don't forget the golf clubs - golf was invented in Scotland.

[Decado]

It's not just rain. It's cold rain. The type of rain that makes a grown man cry.

We love dogs over here, actually we just love pets in general. He/She'll love it over here.

There are two seasons in Scotland - winter and the 24th June when the midges come out. Don't forget Lucy, the midges in Scotland are the size of dogs and most Scots carry around flame throwers to get rid of them - I kid you not!

[Decado]

I heard rumors saying that the sun has not been seen in Scotland since the first day of the Genesis.

Sun - in Scotland! Don't be daft! The only Sun they have is the newspaper one!

[satsumaruma]

I have a dog, so no petty excuses about bad weather! :) Oh, and I like the British Isles as a whole, rain included. :)

REALLY?

Bloody hell Svenja, how grim is the part of Germany you live in?:disapp:

[Decado]

REALLY?

Bloody hell Svenja, how grim is the part of Germany you live in?:disapp:

Must be the eastern part - that's pretty grim I hear.

And when it rains in the southern part of Germany in the summer it really bloody rains - not like the wussy thunderstorms we get here! It's like driving through a waterfall, only wetter!

[lucy]

Must be the eastern part - that's pretty grim I hear.


No, it's the western part, actually, close to the Netherlands. :D The weather is not that bad in general, we don't get any floods here or anything similar. :)

[Decado]

No, it's the western part, actually, close to the Netherlands. :D The weather is not that bad in general, we don't get any floods here or anything similar. :)

Sort of in the general area of Aachen? Or slightly more north?

It's usually worse in southern Germany in my limited experience - rain that is!