Juust saw Kill Bill

[SirFingerLickin]

Well I just saw Kill Bill last night. Looking at it from a kendoists point of view, it is far from proper kendo. On the other hand, looking at it as a geek who likes action movies with pretty girls, blood, guts, and lots of sword fighting, it was great! Some very brutal fight scenes. Definitely worth a trip to the theatre.

[amatsuda]

Just great.......This is going to be just like when that Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon came out...

I anticipate that in the next couple of weeks, enrollment will be up at the dojo but comprised mostly of people who's interest in Kendo will be fickle and expect it to be like the movies...

"So..Sensei....when are we going to spar with bokken or other weapons like the spear and how come we just do footwork back and forth...how come we are not learning any dynamic spinning moves like the movie?"

But this time we are prepared....we put this in our FAQ....

I just saw Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon or the Trailer for The Last Samurai & Kill Bill. When will we be working on fancy swordwork like that?
SJ Dojo is a traditional Kendo Dojo strictly focusing on the fundamentals of Kendo. We do not teach that type of swordmanship like you see on the movie screen. It is entertaining and we enjoy those movies too, but that type of swordsmanship is based on cinematic stunt choreography and has little to do with the actual practice and lifelong study in the art of Kendo.

[Raiza]

Matsuda-sensei, it wouldn't surprise me if one or two dojo will ask to paraphrase your dojo's FAQ reply to their own webpage...

Agh, the onslaught of samurai wannabes will be upon us!
But seriously, we just might get a few genuine students out of this. This recent interest in sword use in Hollywood cinema may be more of a boon than a curse.

[dorkusxmaximus]

The movie is already out?!? Great! I want to go see it.

[SirFingerLickin]

No, its not out just yet, but I work at a local movie theatre, so we had an employee only screening last night because we got the print early. Sorry to get your hopes up though.

But yes, we practice at a university club and so we get a lot of people who come in and drop out relatively quickly for those reasons I would assume. To be truthful, I had pretty much no understanding of what kendo was before I started, so I was fully expecting to see those same flashy moves like in the movies. After a few practices it became apparent I wouldnt learn that, and why such moves wouldnt be effective anyway. Now I've been practicing for about 15 months, so still I'm a relative newbie but all that aside, I am very much focused on improving my kendo. Kendo is a big deal in my life now, and I too hope this resurgance in sword-use in movies does give rise to some good new students to kendo, though I fear they will be few a far between.

[dorkusxmaximus]

It's very true. A majority of mainstream thinks the martial arts in movies are real. I didn't know what kendo was when I first was interested either. Good thing I wasn't inspired by movies though. I just got into it because I read it from a book =P. Oh that's alright, Sirfingerlickin. When does it come out anyway?

[SirFingerLickin]

It's very true. A majority of mainstream thinks the martial arts in movies are real. I didn't know what kendo was when I first was interested either. Good thing I wasn't inspired by movies though. I just got into it because I read it from a book =P. Oh that's alright, Sirfingerlickin. When does it come out anyway?

Methinks it'll be coming out this next friday. I'm not too good with dates, but if we got the print this week, its probably to have a public screening during the week with a release the following weekend.

[Machismo111]

Hey, what's wrong with wanting to be Sanjuro! I'm a big Kurosawa fan, havent seen many movies, but Im working on it! Haha, anyways, if anyone's seen Seven Samurai, that duel towards the beginning (relatively speaking, about an hour in) where Kyuzo (Seiji Miyaguchi) faces some miscellanious thug in a single duel was awesome, in my opinion. Of course, I dont know whether that actually relates to Kendo or another style of Japanese swordsmanship, but I was very impressed =). Samurai movies just aren't made like they were back in the day =(. But everyone needs a role model, whether its some wise monk or a fly homie with a katana back flipping over buildings :silly:

Kendo definately wont fly with those looking to become Darth Maul. Speaking of Darth Maul, did Star Wars at all have an impact upon kendo membership?

[SirFingerLickin]

I'm sure our club did. Whenever driving to practice I usually see the shinai club messing around and such. Shinai club is a group of people who practice what appears to be a homemade martial art which happens to use shinai's. Some of them are also rennaissance clubs who do fairly similar activities from the looks of it. I remember hearing about someone from a local shinai club putting 2 shinai's together to make a sort of 'double-sided' shinai ala Darth Maul. I'm sure we've had some of them try kendo at one point or another and quit for the same reasons many movie martial arts fans seem to do. I cant say I would recognize who they were, but oh well.

I'm sure you can find some websites about them. I remember looking around yahoo to see what they were all about, and I remember reading someone say 'Anyone can join our shinai club. Kendo is okay, but I'm a freestyle fighter.' I thought that was pretty funny. I had a good laugh. Some of the pictures on shinai club websites are especially funny.

Look at this one:
http://www.shinai.org/

[swrdply400mrela]

I'm sure you can find some websites about them. I remember looking around yahoo to see what they were all about, and I remember reading someone say 'Anyone can join our shinai club. Kendo is okay, but I'm a freestyle fighter.' I thought that was pretty funny. I had a good laugh. Some of the pictures on shinai club websites are especially funny.

Look at this one:
http://www.shinai.org/

That is really sad. It makes me sick as well.

[gszab]

Hi all!

That shinai club is pretty funny :p . At least they do not affirm that they are kendokas. I know a very similar group who call themselves as "fighter" and they think that they are real samurais. They call their art as iaido-kobudo but they do not know anything about iaido. There are a lot of funny people in the world :p

[Machismo111]

Look at this one:
http://www.shinai.org/

Yikes! Eeee...hehe. I wonder how these people actually do in a fight? =P. That's kinda cheezy, but I don't wanna flame. I'm sure it would be a lot of fun =). Maybe.

[Nishi]

http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1394&highlight=society

[dorkusxmaximus]

That movie was sooo kewl. I can't wait for the 2nd Kill Bill to come out.

[sverba]

Saw KB and told the folks I was with that the sword fighting was pretty lame (never saw anyone holding correctly, etc.) but the blood sprays, etc...were probably LESS grizzly than a real battle...there are woodblock prints of samurai fighting that are more horrific than KB...

My son loved the movie (he's 24) so I showed him some footage of the recent World Kendo competition in Glasgow...then he REALLY was amazed...!!

Steve V.






Well I just saw Kill Bill last night. Looking at it from a kendoists point of view, it is far from proper kendo. On the other hand, looking at it as a geek who likes action movies with pretty girls, blood, guts, and lots of sword fighting, it was great! Some very brutal fight scenes. Definitely worth a trip to the theatre.

[Armstrong San]

Just saw Kill Bill. The amount of gore was on the level of Natural Born Killers. I generally enjoyed the movie, but I thought the movie was offensive to Asians, especially Japanese. There were so many sterotypes running throughtout the entire movie. I thought it was somewhat funny, but I am interested to get an Asian person's reaction to the movie.

Just my 2 cents.

[sminki]

While there was a lot of gore, it was comical because it was overdone. The chopped off limbs and blood showers were reminiscent of the old samurai movies such as Sanjuro or Yojimbo. Can't say that I was offended by the stereotypes issue because the entire movie was Tarantino's own way of paying homage to Asian martial arts flicks which are ridden with stereotypes in the first place. Mentioning proper kendo/kenjutsu is entirely pointless. What do you expect from a Tarantino flick? (Although I did make a point of turning to my wife and say "You realize there's just no way of wielding a nihonto like that.") Only thing that really bugs me about movies like these is that they really butcher the Japanese/Chinese/Korean (whatever Asian language being spoken) language, but there's really nothing that can be done about that. I think Kill Bill is exactly what it is. Just a form of entertainment which lasts 1 hour 50 min. No more. No less.

Will be interesting to see how The Last Samurai will deal with the kendo/kenjutsu issue (form, technique, etc.).

[xvikingx]

I have not seen the movie yet but I was wondering, is Lucy Lui's character supposed to be Japanese?

[swrdply400mrela]

I have not seen the movie yet but I was wondering, is Lucy Lui's character supposed to be Japanese?

She's half Chinese and half American born on a military base in Japan. This is addressed at one point in the movie ;)

The movie was so gory, someone actually threw up trying to get out of the movie theater. After the movie ended and everyone was walking out, everyone was avoiding a couple of blotches on the carpet where someone had puked.

[xvikingx]

Thanks. I had only seen the trailer so I wasn't quite sure.

[sverba]

I am puzzled when folks think the scenes in KB are overdone...the "jet of blood" phenomenon is a well-known reality...the heart pumps blood an a fairly high pressure and severing a major artery will produce exactly what we saw in KB...first illustrated in the famous Kurosawa scene....lost limbs, screams, blood everywhere..sounds pretty much like what you'd expect in a sword battle...the acrobatics are overdone...the gore probably not...

Makes me glad we used shinai...!

sv




While there was a lot of gore, it was comical because it was overdone. The chopped off limbs and blood showers were reminiscent of the old samurai movies such as Sanjuro or Yojimbo. Can't say that I was offended by the stereotypes issue because the entire movie was Tarantino's own way of paying homage to Asian martial arts flicks which are ridden with stereotypes in the first place. Mentioning proper kendo/kenjutsu is entirely pointless. What do you expect from a Tarantino flick? (Although I did make a point of turning to my wife and say "You realize there's just no way of wielding a nihonto like that.") Only thing that really bugs me about movies like these is that they really butcher the Japanese/Chinese/Korean (whatever Asian language being spoken) language, but there's really nothing that can be done about that. I think Kill Bill is exactly what it is. Just a form of entertainment which lasts 1 hour 50 min. No more. No less.

Will be interesting to see how The Last Samurai will deal with the kendo/kenjutsu issue (form, technique, etc.).

[sminki]

I am puzzled when folks think the scenes in KB are overdone...the "jet of blood" phenomenon is a well-known reality...the heart pumps blood an a fairly high pressure and severing a major artery will produce exactly what we saw in KB...first illustrated in the famous Kurosawa scene....lost limbs, screams, blood everywhere..sounds pretty much like what you'd expect in a sword battle...the acrobatics are overdone...the gore probably not...

Makes me glad we used shinai...!

sv

"jet of blood" phenomenon, meaning blood squirting out due to heart's pumping action is probably true. but look at scenes like when lucy liu decapitates the yakuza boss who objects to her leading the yakuza council. i haven't seen a good beheading in years now, but the blood from it probably does not shower out in 8 different streams with comparable force and pressure to become a fountain of blood which is big enough to shower the entire room. Way overdone. I think Tarantino purposely did that.

[sverba]

Well, it is true that Tarentino is always "over the top"... when I was studying medical anthropology we discussed this, the spray would be several large pulses up to six foot up and away - not 8 streams of course...the initial spray though is pretty extensive and the forensics books are full of studies of the patterns of blood sprays on walls and ceilings...no matter how you slice it, sword battles would not be pretty (excuse bad pun)...
sv



"jet of blood" phenomenon, meaning blood squirting out due to heart's pumping action is probably true. but look at scenes like when lucy liu decapitates the yakuza boss who objects to her leading the yakuza council. i haven't seen a good beheading in years now, but the blood from it probably does not shower out in 8 different streams with comparable force and pressure to become a fountain of blood which is big enough to shower the entire room. Way overdone. I think Tarantino purposely did that.

[dorkusxmaximus]

I really like that movie and I'm really glad that I didn't watch it with any fellow kenshi. I'm not trying to imply that everyone is like this, but from what I'm reading so far. There are those that criticized the kamae and fight scenes. Yeah, I know the kamae is too high, but it's just a movie and it's entertainment. Don't take it so seriously, and enjoy it for what it is.

My friend was kind of offended by how Uma Thurman talked. She thought that Uma was trying to sound Japanese

[Nishi]

Ive just seen Kill Bill, the film did its job, i am entertained.......the end.

[Blue_Dragon]

I dont know how many of you are Anime/Manga fans but i sure am...Doesnt kill bill's over the top fighting and gore seem reminsent of some classic anime eg Ninja Scroll ..This is also evedent in the matrix movies.....not so much the gore but the action and cinimatography is anime like....


what do you think?




NO kiddy those are my tender baked bbq lousiana chicken tenders!

[JSchmidt]

Saw it last night. As for stereo-types, that's what Tarantino does. He digs out old cliches and amplifies them. I got no problem with that at all. It's his style and he does it across the board.
The film it self seems to attempt to be clever for cleverness sake. A few very good bits and I do like the way he sets out his scenes.
The swordfighting: Normally, I'm pretty good at accepting theatrical fighting, but this was just plain wrong..it would be equilant of a shoot-out, where they aren't even holding the grip of the guns. The choreography of it wasnt all that good either and the continuity was pretty bad.
Soundtrack, though, (As always with Tarantino's films) was awesome :)
It gets 5 out of 10 from me.

Jakob

[Anjin-san]

I was reminded of ninja scroll as well. Wasn't sure what to expect going into this film, but was thoroughly entertained by the end of it. What Tarantino did with dialogue in Pulp Fiction, he does the same with violence in KB.

[Atama]

Saw KB and told the folks I was with that the sword fighting was pretty lame (never saw anyone holding correctly, etc.) but the blood sprays, etc...were probably LESS grizzly than a real battle...there are woodblock prints of samurai fighting that are more horrific than KB...


Ok I watched Kill Bill yesterday and it is truly a great piece of cinematography as for the swordsmanship I thought it was some of the better stuff i've seen in a movie. I'm quite sure some budo snobs would disagree but unless you have actually witnessed a yakuza or samurai style killing you can't contest it. As for the spraying blood Tarrentino (excuse the spelling) taking from Japenese films such as 'Loan wolf and cub'.

There is no relationship between Kill Bill and kendo so it is a petty nul point to compare the two and critisise a great piece of film coz it isn't proper kendo.

[pamiro]

saw the movie yesterday...
i think is is faaaar much better than the matrix fighting scenes with the katana in which al the movements are totally fake...where he hits a guy and 6 of them fly away and fade out while the others watch whats happening ....
i liked the final fights where she had to deal with all that crowd, looked a bit like `sanjuro` inspired to me...
apart from how they hold the katanas i thing it was looking really good...
great soundtrack, great photograpy ....

[KhawMengLee]

saw the movie yesterday...
i think is is faaaar much better than the matrix fighting scenes with the katana in which al the movements are totally fake...where he hits a guy and 6 of them fly away and fade out while the others watch whats happening ....
i liked the final fights where she had to deal with all that crowd, looked a bit like `sanjuro` inspired to me...
apart from how they hold the katanas i thing it was looking really good...
great soundtrack, great photograpy ....

I thought it was "entertaining"...you'd think with the budget they had they could get a decent speech coach for the japanese bits. As a half American chinese/japanese Lucy's character was okay but Uma's japanese was just pure comedy...she shouldn't have bothered.

The fight scenes....well...I thought the extras had better skill than Uma but...hey, its hollywood...

[tanueirin]

Speaking of gore, I must be desensitised from watching too much anime. I didn't find it terribly offensive - it was pretty surreal and cartoon-like for me, but the person I went with thought it was too violent. Personally, I found the scenes in Blade II and and Scream much more disturbing.

Damn! I missed the Movie Show review of KB! Did any fellow Aussies out there catch it? Just wondering if David and Margaret came to fisticuffs over their differing opinions ... :)

Sorry for the rambling post ...

PS. Meng, I told the guys at Murdoch U Kendo that I'd seen an ex-Murdoch person on the forums - they have very fond memories of you ... :wink:

[KhawMengLee]

Speaking of gore, I must be desensitised from watching too much anime. I didn't find it terribly offensive - it was pretty surreal and cartoon-like for me, but the person I went with thought it was too violent. Personally, I found the scenes in Blade II and and Scream much more disturbing.

Damn! I missed the Movie Show review of KB! Did any fellow Aussies out there catch it? Just wondering if David and Margaret came to fisticuffs over their differing opinions ... :)

Sorry for the rambling post ...

PS. Meng, I told the guys at Murdoch U Kendo that I'd seen an ex-Murdoch person on the forums - they have very fond memories of you ... :wink:


Eeek :eek: !

Hehehe...yup, tell Colin to stop smacking shinais away with his hand during shiai and Albert that he still has my suburito...hehe

Are they still wearing those white gloves?

[tanueirin]

Woah - ancient history! I'll PM you so the good folks here can get back to discussing KB.

[Sbres]

I watched it last night and thought it was utter s**t. Yakuza in silly masks?
Why...? (But Gogo was cool).
Edited to add.. I am now watching (Japanese title, obviously) "San-piki no Samurai" and it doesn't have Yakuza in batman masks (not yet anyway).

[A P]

Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

I like the action part of the movie, but I think that the scrips for the main

charecter was quite cornnies.

Althought, they got that cute japanese school girl to make up for that.

Otherwise the movie was great. I would give it an -A rating.

[dorkusxmaximus]

Those silly masks is the same mask Bruce Lee wore when he was Kato on the show Green Hornet! :sleeping:

[A P]

That movie was sooo kewl. I can't wait for the 2nd Kill Bill to come out.


Me toooooo!! I bet it will be even have more GOR than the first one.

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..

[xvikingx]

I found out something kind of interesting the other day. The Japanese release of "Kill Bill" is uncut. They had to tone down the movie for Europe and U.S. audiences. So the Japanese version is even movie nasty.
It was entertaining but totally cheesy. After 8 years you'd think Tarantino (sp?) could come up with something better than a gory movie.

[xvikingx]

[QUOTE=xvikingx]So the Japanese version is even movie nasty.
QUOTE]

*more nasty
:ermm:

[rottunpunk]

ive only seen the end of the english one(but ive seen it a gazzillion times-it get worse each time i see it)
the scalping was good-but if they were samurais havenet they got the hands wrong-or are there different ways of holding it within japan

anyways its a townie movie which shows its not very good especially compared to finding nemo-which rocks
:p

[tsuba_man]

No matter what anyone says about the movie, as my sensei says, "Lucy Lui! She so hot!" *then performs dramatic roll and slice*

[OmahaKai]

man, that shinai fighting sure looks exiting-NOT. I wander what would be the out come of a 1rst dan kendo person against their most skilled person. As my sinsei always said to me- "anyone can swing a stick, but swinging it and using skill sets us apart". Now, im sure that the people that "shinai fight" (swing shinai around in random movements and think they look good) think they have skill, but its downright hillarious. Any other opinions?

--Link to the shinai fighting stuff-----
http://www.shinai.org/

[Stimpson J. Cat]

Some of them are also rennaissance clubs who do fairly similar activities from the
I had a couple friends in college who did something called SCA (Society for Creative Ananocrism (sp?) - a sort European medeival reenactment organization) heavy combat, sort of a made-up martial art based on european combat utilizing full armor and rattan weapons (weapon and armor rules can be found at http://www.sca.org/officers/marshal/combat/armored/index.html) which is quite a bit more serious than the "shinai club" types seem to be. Old Warrior has mentioned that European fencing experience helps in some ways, I was wondering if anybody has done this sort of thing, based less on duelling and more on a warfare type of combat, (semi-)seriously and if it helps or hinders doing kendo.

I will admit I used to do "shinai club" kind of stuff in college, because I didn't have the time or money for equipment required to do the SCA stuff, or I would have done that instead. And although I knew kendo would be vastly different which I started, I did think the fact that I used to be pretty good at "shinai club" would help when I started kendo - it didn't. I quickly discovered I wasn't nearly as fast as I thought I was, 20 years and 50 pounds probably didn't help either :wink:

[red_xavier]

Not meaning to offend anyone here, but why are kendokas commenting on the kenjutsu 'techniques' in Kill Bill? Kendo is about as similar to Kenjutsu as Karate is to Kung Fu.

And it's surprising that anyone would be motivated to do Kendo based off Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon... retards should at least sign up under Chinese Tai Chi Sword or something.


The first thing that got me into Kendo was actually watching those fleeting glimpses in BLACK RAIN of the Japanese police force practising in full bogu. And of course those Kurosawa movies got me interested in Japanese swordplay in general.


As for Kill Bill. I loved watching the movie. Not a patch on the other samurai themed films I've seen these last few years though... Mibu Gishiden, Gohatto and Zatoichi. And even fun flicks like Azumi, Versus and Aragami, Samurai Fiction and Red Shadow...

[Shogun97]

Kendo is about as similar to Kenjutsu as Karate is to Kung Fu.


What the hell is Kenjutsu???????
Some sort of chinese kendo thing???

[not-I]

What the hell is Kenjutsu???????
Dont' despair. Look it up:

http://www.kjartan.org/swordfaq/

:chinese:

[Shogun97]

so from what i understood kenjutsu is used in war while kendo is..........used to train with the sword?

[not-I]

so from what i understood kenjutsu is used in war while kendo is..........used to train with the sword?
well, not quite, but this has already been discussed to death. just do a forum search for "kenjutsu" and check out "kendo vs. kenjustsu" among other threads.

[red_xavier]

In simple terms, Kendo is a sport (some would say martial art but that definition doesn't really apply) derived from kenjutsu. At the turn of the century or thereabouts, the hundreds of different sword schools that had persisted through the Meiji Restoration were amalgated into one basic style which became Kendo. After the second world war during the American occupation Kendo became further 'diluted' into basic strikes that targeted only the four areas (men, do, kote and tsuki) thus becoming more of a sport.

The dynamics of Kendo are very removed from the reality of sword-fighting. Principally because of the rules employed in the former that permeate both practice and matches. There is an abundance of moves that would be considered illegal in Kendo... where martial arts are chiefly concerned with the defeat of one's opponent irregardless of means (Aikido is probably the exception but even then you learn techniques that could break arms if necessary).


Kill Bill features no Kendo whatsoever, apart perhaps from the basic men and do strikes (but even then, the body movements are completely different). It arguably features some Kenjutsu though it's difficult to say - I haven't studied any Kenjutsu techniques myself.

However, there's a lot of edge on edge contact in Kill Bill which is quite a Western concept of swordfighting, as well a dramatic movie device. Japanese tended to parry rather than block, and the emphasis was mostly on outmaneovering the opponent (see typical chambara films for this - the samurai closes the distance between himself and his charging attacker, slashing him fatally before the other's attack)

Good film though.

[umemura]

i just saw kill bill 1... wasn't very impressed... except that i liked the girls :D (Lucy Liu!! yea!). but seriously...the blood in the movie was waaaaaaay too fakey and it wasnt even sick. i was like "what the heck? humans cant shoot off 500 gallons of blood like fire hydrants!!"

anyhoo, easy terms for kendo and kenjutsu: kendo is..well, u already know kendo, and kenjutsu is where kendo came from. kenjutsu is the original form of swordsmanship, what samurais used, (yes, to kill and etc) but like what red_xavier said, Japanese people made kenjutsu a sport in Meiji Jidai (cuz they issued Haitourei, a law that prohibited the possession and use of sword) and voila! there's kendo. there u go. It's like archery, where it used to be hunters stuff but it became a sport, u know? so kenjutsu is the source of kendo.
alright, that's good enough.

[Masahiro]

Originally Posted by red_xavier
Kendo is about as similar to Kenjutsu as Karate is to Kung Fu.


hmm not quite, as kendo as created to improve your skills with the use of a sword. I don't think karate(assuming you are refering to japanese karate) was created to help you to get better at Kung Fu. Just as a side note, I've always wanted to tell the new beginners this. And what other place better place to broadcast my messege than here. For those of you who has began studying kendo under the influence of "The Last Samurai", "Kill Bill" or any other sword related movies, and included in this catogory are the people who have just joined a dojo within the last 9 monthes. I wont diss on you people and say:"Ah, I spit at those people who wants to take kendo all because of some Hollywood movie they saw" Yes, I could do that and feel superior myself. But truth is I doubt very few of us who walk this path of the sword started out because we thought kendo was the only way to live. Whatever reason may have encouraged you to start kendo, so be it. Be as it may, the reasons aren't important. As oppose to your efforts! Don't quit, just dont freakin quit o.k? The day you quit kendo, is the day you need to never stare upon a mirror again. For you will never find a true-er reflection of yourself!

[vintage]

I just saw Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon or the Trailer for The Last Samurai & Kill Bill. When will we be working on fancy swordwork like that?
SJ Dojo is a traditional Kendo Dojo strictly focusing on the fundamentals of Kendo. We do not teach that type of swordmanship like you see on the movie screen. It is entertaining and we enjoy those movies too, but that type of swordsmanship is based on cinematic stunt choreography and has little to do with the actual practice and lifelong study in the art of Kendo.
Actually, when I was looking for a dojo and I read that, it made me want to join all the more (and it's been nothing but wonderful :)).


Look at this one:
http://www.shinai.org/
OMG That's the nerd jousting! (Let's just say that I knew some of those people back in high school.)

Heh, maybe when I'm home again for the summer I'll give the nerds a visit. See what's up.

Oh, and to, ah, keep it on-topic, I have not yet seen Kill Bill. I probably won't, either. I like Tarantino movies, but I have this habit of never seeing them in theatres.

[Hai_hai]

I just saw the movie. Well, it was entertaining. The strange thing is that my kendo style is exactly like in the movie.

[KhawMengLee]

I just saw the movie. Well, it was entertaining. The strange thing is that my kendo style is exactly like in the movie.

really?...your kendo must be a joke then.

[Hai_hai]

really?...your kendo must be a joke then.

Yes.
I always use hasso no kamae.
I always do backflips.
I wear a kimono to keiko.

[Masahiro]

I bet you are no where as sexy as Lucy Liu wearing your kimono, standing in your hasso kamae. On a side note, I thought Kill Bill 2 sucked.

[not-I]

On a side note, I thought Kill Bill 2 sucked.
Really? Why?
It's on my "to see" list this week.

[Hai_hai]

I just saw "13 Going On 30", a cute movie starring Jennifer Garner. It has its funny moments where you're laughing out loud and its sad moments where you are trying to hold back the tears. It could be a family movie or a date movie. Enjoy.

[Ralutin]

I just saw "13 Going On 30", a cute movie starring Jennifer Garner. It has its funny moments where you're laughing out loud and its sad moments where you are trying to hold back the tears. It could be a family movie or a date movie. Enjoy.

I saw that movie a long time ago...back in 1986 when it was called "Big"...:P

I swear, Hollywood can't come up with any original ideas anymore...

[Hai_hai]

I saw that movie a long time ago...back in 1986 when it was called "Big"...:P

I swear, Hollywood can't come up with any original ideas anymore...

Yeah, I know.
I watch a mix of blockbusters, independent films, classics, foreign films, anime, and B-movies.
I liked "Kill Bill, Volume 1". It was an odd mix of action, B-movie monologues performed by A-list actors, animation, ultra-violence, unrealistic gore, 70's kung-fu movie sound effects, cheesy fake airliner flying, overly-dramatic Japanese scene in the sushi bar.

[Masahiro]

Really? Why?
It's on my "to see" list this week.Well, to me. .. ...Kill Bill vol. 1 was a piece of art work, but vol. 2 was merely a movie. And worse, it was a Hollywood movie.

site note, I also saw "13 going on 30" this past week end, it was pretty cute. I confess I had a good time watching it, but I swear I wasn't the one who wanted to see it initially. It was my g/f who dragged me to the theater! using her subtle ways! Ahh...... women! :devious:

[Zaphiel]

Well, to me. .. ...Kill Bill vol. 1 was a piece of art work, but vol. 2 was merely a movie. And worse, it was a Hollywood movie.


i think you have to look at Kill Bill as one film.
the first part was blood and action without story
the seconde part was story without blood and action
...........so watching both in one go: that's it!!!!!

[DanDan]

whenever someones limb was amputated or w/e i was like "woah! blood fountain?" does that really happen? and some of those ppl should've already been dead. i'm pretty sure they lost a lil to much blood to live on. i didnt really understand the background of the story very well either...it was way way unrealistic...

[Zaphiel]

whenever someones limb was amputated or w/e i was like "woah! blood fountain?" does that really happen?
No...not that strong.....there is a blood fountain,however it's not really that big(and on the arms it's even lesser)