Kendo vs Naginata

[Jakob Ryngen]

It was very nice to watch the kendo vs naginata matches at the last World Championships. But I keep forgetting what such a match is called in proper budo terms. Could anyone here help me out?

[R A Sosnowski]

It was very nice to watch the kendo vs naginata matches at the last World Championships. But I keep forgetting what such a match is called in proper budo terms. Could anyone here help me out?

"Isshu Jiai."

[Jakob Ryngen]

Thank you! What does it mean and does the term only apply to naginata vs kendo?

[R A Sosnowski]

Thank you! What does it mean and does the term only apply to naginata vs kendo?

I have in my notes that Isshu Jiai means "mixed weapons contest" although I don't know if that is a strict translation per se.

It is commonly used in this case for contest between a Naginata-ka with a Shiai-style Naginata and a Kendo-ka with a Shinai with both in full Bogu (the Kendo-ka get to wear a pair of Sune-ate too). I have seen both Itto (single Shinai) and Nito (Daisho-style Shinai pair) Kendo used in this contest.

It is not used exclusively for Kendo vs. Naginata. In Meik Skoss' essay What is Tankendo? (http://www.koryubooks.com/library/mskoss12.html), he uses the term Isshu Jiai with respect to a contest between the Juken (the mock rifle with bayonet used in Jukendo) and the Tanken (the mock bayonet of Tankendo that looks like a Shoto-size Shinai). Meik also goes on to mention that there are Juken-Tachi Kata, which would imply the possibility of Jukendo vs. Kendo. In fact, on page 8 of Nito Ryu Narai Kata by Arazeki Nitosai, there is a photograph of Jukendo vs. Nito Kendo with both people in full Bogu.

HTH.

[Jakob Ryngen]

Thanks again! Is there really a kata with juken vs nito? Sounds like an interesting but very unlikely situation.

[R A Sosnowski]

Thanks again! Is there really a kata with juken vs nito? Sounds like an interesting but very unlikely situation.

I believe that the Kata in Jukendo are Juken vs. Itto, which would follow from Imperial Army officers carrying Katana (Toyama Ryu Batto-jutsu as basic training); Jukendo was also a part of the curriculum taught at the Toyama Gakko.

However, the photo that I mentioned shows Jukendo vs. Nito Kendo. It is, as you say, a very unlikely situation.

[Kent Enfield]

"Isshu Jiai."Are you sure it's "isshu jiai"? I've heard "issho jiai," which would "a match together." I can't find an "isshu" that makes sense in this context.

[mingshi]

The Kanji is 異種試合
where the "i" means "different/strange", "shu" is "type/category".

AFAIK there was also Isshu Shiai of sword vs kusarigama :D

[Voidsamurai]

Small video clip (Kendo vs Naginata)


http://www.amk.esp.br/kendo/kendoArquivos.asp

look for:

2000
Isshujiai – Kyoto 2000 – Kendo vs Naginata- 2,0 MB
At the end of the page.

(that's actually been taken from our site - see the Multimedia section of this site. - Hamish)

[Brian C.]

Wow thats a great site! Thanks for posting the link.


BC

[Mr.Tvola]

Some more short videos

http://www.kendo.euweb.cz/text/textik/fots/sagawa/nagkenvideo.htm

I must say, that doing Kendo against Naginata is so much fun :-)

Some pictures here

http://www.kendo.euweb.cz/text/textik/fots/sagawa/index2.html

[aru-ma]

AFAIK there was also Isshu Shiai of sword vs kusarigama :D

I've seen one on a qt file, I thik someone posted one up here in a thread a while back