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garyquinn1704
3rd November 2007, 11:30 PM
I ordered Hakama, Gi, Shinai etc on Tuesday night and had it on Friday morning. Great service.
What's with the mini plastic spatula type thing hanging in the back of it? Think that's going to get intimate with me if I fall on my arse. Or is that the point?
And the big loops inside, are they for passing the ties through?
ghostdancer
4th November 2007, 12:15 AM
nope
you tie the front set of tapes first, then loop the plastic thingy over them, this will aid you in tieing the back set of tapes properly
the inside loops no idea !
somebody will be along in awhile to put me right over any technical inaccuracies iam sure ie terminology
and yeah nine circles are relly fast on the uptake
random944
4th November 2007, 12:37 AM
My sempei told me to shove the paddle in the knock I tied in the first strings of the halama as I put it on to hold it up in the right position. Does this make sence? Kinda kinda like a stay in place aid.
Newbie
4th November 2007, 12:46 AM
Yup, it sits in the knot at the back and helps keep everything in place. Either get someone to show you how to put everything on properly, or when I got my stuff, I poured over the diagram in Kendo: Beginners Guide or whatever it's called. Unfortunately I've leant it out... it's a nice big hardback thing with a dark cover and red and white writing on the front. I still find out of all the daigrams, the ones in that book are the clearest and easiest to follow.
JoDuncan
4th November 2007, 01:04 AM
I ordered Hakama, Gi, Shinai etc on Tuesday night and had it on Friday morning. Great service.
What's with the mini plastic spatula type thing hanging in the back of it? Think that's going to get intimate with me if I fall on my arse. Or is that the point?
And the big loops inside, are they for passing the ties through?
Ignore the big loops.
The plastic spatula is needed! :D
Your post was one of the most poetic i have ever read.
shred_lord
4th November 2007, 06:04 AM
Ask someone to show you tomorrow
PhilMcLaughlin
4th November 2007, 07:34 AM
the big loops are for hanging it up to air off :-))
ccheck5
5th November 2007, 11:59 PM
I ordered Hakama, Gi, Shinai etc on Tuesday night and had it on Friday morning. Great service.
What's with the mini plastic spatula type thing hanging in the back of it? Think that's going to get intimate with me if I fall on my arse. Or is that the point?
And the big loops inside, are they for passing the ties through?
what is everyone talking about? you are supposed to get intimate with it. lolz jk
Kirinhale
7th November 2007, 03:55 AM
Yup, those loops are what keeps my hakama on a coat hanger :smiley:
razorblade2099
7th November 2007, 04:45 AM
Wouldn't your hakama get wrinkled if you hang it by the loop?
I hang my hakama like a pair of pants after practice, with the front facing forward rather than the side of course. It keeps those lines nice and straight.
gholam
7th November 2007, 05:54 PM
I ordered Hakama, Gi, Shinai etc on Tuesday night and had it on Friday morning. Great service.
What's with the mini plastic spatula type thing hanging in the back of it? Think that's going to get intimate with me if I fall on my arse. Or is that the point?
And the big loops inside, are they for passing the ties through?
Which Hakama and Gi did you order?
JoDuncan
7th November 2007, 06:20 PM
Yes, loops... i use them to hang it up too.... although technically you are supposed to hang it upside down with the pleats all held in place (pretty be bothered). they are not needed when you are actually wearing the thing.
I rekkon he went for the cheapest one ;)
... hope you didn't go for the breathable keikogi!
They've recently changed their cheap hakama from the style i have (BHS school boy trouser fabric) to one with a slightly better feel to it (by tengu i think).
gholam
7th November 2007, 06:50 PM
How often are you supposed to wash these hakamas and gis? After every session?
garyquinn1704
7th November 2007, 06:53 PM
i got the cheap tetron set, would've gone for quality if xmas wasn't looming, but hey-ho
Super Kodachi2
7th November 2007, 06:56 PM
I wash my hakama and keiko gi after every session.
This is mostly essential because most of the time I wear white which shows marks and dirt very easily.
If you fold your hakama like you would when you put it in your bougu bag then place it in the washing machine like this it will help it to retain its shape and the pleats a little easier.
A normal wash cycle wont have much affect on the pleats, in fact I even put mine in my dryer as well after with no problems.
Once you've done just give it a quick iron to make the pleats more visable.
Hakama and Keikogi maintenance is essential and a lot eaiser than it looks.
satsumaruma
7th November 2007, 07:14 PM
Wouldn't your hakama get wrinkled if you hang it by the loop?
I hang my hakama like a pair of pants after practice, with the front facing forward rather than the side of course. It keeps those lines nice and straight.
Yes, loops... i use them to hang it up too.... although technically you are supposed to hang it upside down with the pleats all held in place (pretty be bothered). they are not needed when you are actually wearing the thing.
I rekkon he went for the cheapest one ;)
... hope you didn't go for the breathable keikogi!
They've recently changed their cheap hakama from the style i have (BHS school boy trouser fabric) to one with a slightly better feel to it (by tengu i think).
I tend to use a ladies coat hanger - the type that has a grip at either end. they are usually strong enough to hold firm a wet hakama. I also usually hang mine upside down to keep the creases in place especially if I resort to a machine wash although I must admit I prefer to hand wash as it does tend to not wash out the pleat lines.
How often are you supposed to wash these hakamas and gis? After every session?
If it is white you usually have to do this after every session. If it is black I would advocate just hanging the hakama up and wiping down with a wet sponge to 'clean' it. If you wask anything black too often it becomes shiny due to the ironing process - this effect can be slowed down by ironing from the inside and turning over to re-press pleats from the outside by lining the edge with water and covering with a tea-towel before applying the iron.
Mostly hakams tend not to get dirty they just get a bit whiffy and need airing. Just hang them on the washing line on a windy day and they smell great again.
PhilMcLaughlin
7th November 2007, 10:43 PM
I really wouldnt reccomend washing a cotton hakama in a machine - even folded up !
depending on how often you train you dont need to wash them every session unless you want to - most people dont
I do mine roughly once a month and after a seminar
keikogi tends to get washed more often though, especially if i find its moving about by itself ;-)
cheers
JoDuncan
7th November 2007, 10:46 PM
I tend to use a ladies coat hanger - the type that has a grip at either end. they are usually strong enough to hold firm a wet hakama. I also usually hang mine upside down to keep the creases in place especially if I resort to a machine wash although I must admit I prefer to hand wash as it does tend to not wash out the pleat lines.
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Very proper! I have used those kind of coat hangers before but always felt that a continuous bar acroos the coat hanger would improve them for hakama hanging...
Back to 9circles, placed an order for our club on Monday, received confirmation Tuesday, received goods wednesday. Minus one tsuba dome; emailed them at 14:12, received a phone call from them at 14:20 apologising, getting the correct tsuba size and telling me that it is getting sent now.
Seriously, in all my years of internet shopping no company has even come close to their level of customer service.... in fact, it's not restricted to the internet.
Brilliant.
Steve Bishop
8th November 2007, 02:42 AM
Hi
Bought a Gold Zen hakama from Tozando in 1994 (£1= 147Yen) for around £150!
Washed (naturally) but never ironed and still holds it's pleats. About to be retired as the Koshita and hem look a bit frayed now...still not bad for 14years. Off to Japan Monday with my Yen in hand (now £1=235Yen!!!!)
I'm rich...until I get my new dogi and kote...
Steve Bishop
8th November 2007, 02:45 AM
I wash it in a machine on the delicates setting, slow spin and then dry it flat on a board. No soap...or if smelly, a teaspoonfull, always cold water.
If anyone is good at DIY I need a plug changing...
Fonsz
8th November 2007, 06:47 AM
If anyone is good at DIY I need a plug changing...
A spark plug or the one to keep the water in your bathtub?:confused:
satsumaruma
8th November 2007, 07:37 PM
Very proper! I have used those kind of coat hangers before but always felt that a continuous bar acroos the coat hanger would improve them for hakama hanging...
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Sounds like a business opportunity there.
JoDuncan
8th November 2007, 08:09 PM
Sounds like a business opportunity there.
Going to show Theo, Amir, Deb, Duncan and Peter it soon....
Budo Angel
8th November 2007, 10:44 PM
I have used those kind of coat hangers before but always felt that a continuous bar acroos the coat hanger would improve them for hakama hanging...
I've always used and still use, the hangers given free for skirts normally, ie. like two peg clips - its just the right width distance either side of the koshi-ta. The Hakama then hangs neatly in a wardrobe, that's if its not folded properly like an origami work of art... I always pack one, if I'm going to seminars as you never know where you put your hakama to dry after practice...but there's always somewhere to 'hang' something...
Sounds like a business opportunity there.
Yeah, import them from Japan, first time I saw proper hangers for gi/kimono/hakama - was a revelation, ie. it wasn't rocket science !
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