A Model Samurai?

[ScottUK]

This was sent to me by a friend - who may or may not admit it on this thread - her skill with sword, shinai and bokuto may suck but she dresses a whole lot better than us during practice.

http://brienicolemarie.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/index.html

There are two videos (one titled kendo.wmv for some reason) and a link to other pages at the bottom. Enjoy... ;)

[tango]

sheesh... those guys got more black belts than ebogu and eguchi combined.

interesting that their main page lists all their instructors/sokes/PhDs/Professors/whatever... and oh, here's the hot chick in our group..

oh well, something nice to look at on monday anyway

[tango]

oh, disregard.. .i see from one of her pics that she's one of the many 5.dans they have there...

[Big One]

The guy in the last picture of page 1 is 10 dan. He must be unbeatable.

[Andrew S]

Drexer's long-lost sister? :p

[Kenzan]

My eyes! My eyes!
I love the Sensei with the Uwagi, sweatpants, and K-mart tennis shoes with the Wallhanger stuffed into his waistband.
Awesome.

[Raindrop]

Oh wow, drop the belt and she's ready to hit the clubs. Nifty... I wish our kendo uniforms were all this... can't think of a politically correct adjective... :silly:

[Andrew S]

Do they give out dan grades to the ladies for dress sense?
In which case, the men probably get graded according to the number of badges they have.

I know we shouldn't jump to conclusions or be over-anxious to judge, but something inside of me is saying "No, sorry, wrong!"

[Raindrop]

I dunno, on the one hand I feel bad cause I mean, I'm sure these people are serious, and they feel good with what they're doing and who am I to judge, right? However on the other hand, all I see is a group without proper technique or relationship with the steel, flailing about sharp swords which is very dangerous. There's a reason they use bokkuto for practice until you are skilled enough, and sorry, this is no skill.

That woman's clothes, well sorry, those are just laughable, they're bad for any sport or martial art. Well... actually from another woman's standpoint, they're just bad. Period :P

[ScottUK]

I know we shouldn't jump to conclusions or be over-anxious to judge, but something inside of me is saying "No, sorry, wrong!"I suggest you watch the two videos on the homepage and then prepare to jump... ;)

[Andrew S]

I watched. I jumped.

[sminch]

until now i believed that giving a woman a sword made her twice as hot, no question, but after watching those videos my woman + sword = hotty rule has been dashed.

sminch

[Paikea]

I suggest you watch the two videos on the homepage and then prepare to jump... ;)Is The Man Show still on?

[Berserker]

The guy standing on the far right in last pic of page 1 looks like Dr Phil's (http://www.talkingnfl.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/dr_phil.jpg) long lost cousin! :)

[Inner_Silence]

hmmm

doesnt matter...

the thing is that she isnt that hot, but she is quite doable anyways...

[Badger]

Has the guy who started the cute kendo girls forum found his answer?

[tango]

The guy in the last picture of page 1 is 10 dan. He must be unbeatable.

I think he's 20.dan...

10 stripes on one side of the belt, 10 stripes on the other.
That's 20th Dan, right?


..... right?

[MikeH]

I'm confused, why is she named after cheese? Do you think she has friends called cheddar and gorgonzola to practice with?

Mike

[Charles Lockhar]

I think the videos need to be uploaded to youtube for, well, wider distribution. With commentary. Anybody know if the MST3K guys are available?

You know, I can picture a lot of dorks, myself included, who would video tape something that bad. But I think it takes someone really, REALLY special to then look at that video, and think, "yeah, this shows off my mad skillz really well, this is quality. I've gotta post this for all to see how absolutely fabulous I am!"

Wow.

-Charles

[Fonsz]

This was sent to me by a friend - who may or may not admit it on this thread - her skill with sword, shinai and bokuto may suck but she dresses a whole lot better than us during practice.

http://brienicolemarie.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/index.html

There are two videos (one titled kendo.wmv for some reason) and a link to other pages at the bottom. Enjoy... ;)
I beg to differ. After close scrutiny of all the pictures and movies I come to the conclusion that she is not a Samurai. I come to this conclusion because she hangs out with Ninjas! The ever so elusive men (and woman apparantly) in black can be seen here. These are very rare pictures of the folks that crawl on the ceiling and hide in your toilet when they're out to get you.
I think it would be wise for everyone who has read this thread to watch your back, look under your bed and check the toilet bowl before you use it.
Don't say that I haven't warned you.:eek::pirate:

[samurai80]

Yowzas. Looks like she stumbled out of the club, and a bunch of perverts forced her to fight her way out of their basement.

P.S. Good look to those that noticed the running shoes, and the 20 dan.

P.P.S. Inner silence was right... she's doable, but pretty much just your run-of-the-mill club ho. Nice ranjeri gi.

[kartoffelngeist]

until now i believed that giving a woman a sword made her twice as hot, no question, but after watching those videos my woman + sword = hotty rule has been dashed.

sminch

you still would though, wouldn't you?

[ccheck5]

hmmm

doesnt matter...

the thing is that she isnt that hot, but she is quite doable anyways...
quite pokeable if i do say so myself

[Bee-Otch]

You figured if you get 20 dan you would know how to take of the red string (http://brienicolemarie.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/page5.html) from a brand new shinai.

Dilemna: Attend a mcdojo with a hot chick or attend an AUSKF affiliated dojo? hmmm...

[ccheck5]

mmmmmmmm mcdojo. can i get a shake with that hot chick?

[Bee-Otch]

A shake and a happy meal

[ccheck5]

hell yes! i love cheap but amusing toys with my foodz

[Chaby]

He-he-he...

I see your acceptability of sword style differ greatly.
:)
Without the lovely lady and her girl friend,I bet it would be all sticks and stones throwing at the unfortunate "kenshis".
:D

[Bee-Otch]

I have a better idea, I'll take the shake and the happy meal to go. we get the best of both worlds.

I bet the majority of the "students" are there because of the chicks. without them the mcdojo would close down, 20 dan or not.

[ccheck5]

im going to lure her with promises of candy and funny stories to get her to go to my dojo

[Bee-Otch]

Or tell her that if she comes to your dojo, she gets to wield a sword like this guy (http://www.13thhourfx.com/PICS/JEDI%20II.jpg)

[Spooky]

I beg to differ. After close scrutiny of all the pictures and movies I come to the conclusion that she is not a Samurai. I come to this conclusion because she hangs out with Ninjas! The ever so elusive men (and woman apparantly) in black can be seen here. These are very rare pictures of the folks that crawl on the ceiling and hide in your toilet when they're out to get you.
I think it would be wise for everyone who has read this thread to watch your back, look under your bed and check the toilet bowl before you use it.
Don't say that I haven't warned you.:eek::pirate:


*Best Indiana Jones voice*

Ninjers. Why'd it have to be Ninjers?

[chidokan]

Good grief, within 24 hours of me sending this to Scott its 3 pages long!!!:laugh: I just KNEW he wouldnt be able to resist putting this up for perusal....you have lived up to your rep Scott...:laugh:

Actually I am thinking of moving to the town, as it has to be the home of MA....just look at all the soke in one club! Fantastic!!! Are all USA dojos this good????:eek:

[ScottUK]

Good grief, within 24 hours of me sending this to Scott its 3 pages long!!!:laugh: I just KNEW he wouldnt be able to resist putting this up for perusal....you have lived up to your rep Scott...:laugh:Actually I have been avoiding the YouTube ninjerz and sam-you-reyez recently as they are stunting my intellectual growth, but I couldn't resist this bunch of comedians. As soon as I saw the shinai-dancing videos I knew it had to be posted...

[Andrew S]

I think everyone's been rather soft on this crowd.
They follow just about every sokey-dokey method in the book:

They're American (no offence to the multitudes of excellent American budoka, but it's surprising just how many fakes/scamurai/33 1/3 dans come from the good ol' US of A)
"Interesting" names
Badges and patches
multi-coloured uniforms
Wierd footwear
"Mastery" of multiple styles
Unbelievably high grades
Jedi/Conan/Highlander Ryu sword methodsWhat's the bet their illustrious leader is on a Soke Board?
If the chicks weren't "doable" (as was so poetically put), or there were just blokes with beards, we'd be all over them.

[ScottUK]

just blokes with beards, we'd be all over them.Err, would you like to rephrase that...? :D

[Fred27]

Err, would you like to rephrase that...? :D

Dont be bashful! Obviously Andrew is having an out-of-closet experience and we should support him ;)

Seriously though, has everyone gone through the entire site? My favorite is page 5:
http://brienicolemarie.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/page5.html (http://brienicolemarie.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/page5.html)

[captain caveman]

man that was so sad it made piss run from my eyes.i dont care how good she looks in her underwear she is still a twat:eek:

[Paburo]

it's a sad waste that the mcdojos keep the hot babes for themselves..... for buddhas sake, please someone on that area contact her and show her what 'real' kendo and iai is all about!! haha :D be a hero for the kendo community!

[chidokan]

and just look at the number of sokes!!! My absolute favourite page....

http://www.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/

[Ignatz]

Where is it written that jedi must dress like refugees?

[Raindrop]

Oh gods, I didn't know there was more than that one page... o__O;

Have you guys seen page 6? She's LEANING on her Katana...

And is it just my noobish self or is there not a single picture of someone holding their sword properly? Hmm I should send this page to everyone in our kendo beginners class as an example for how to NOT do it :tongue:

[MikeH]

Grandmaster Hutton specializes in Knife Defensive Techniques (http://www.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/hutton.html) using a special knife that he has patented. (http://www.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/hutton.html)

So, how useful would that be then? I mean if he has to use a special knife he's patented. A rubber one or something? Even if it's not doesn't every mugger have to be supplied with one?

Mike

[Mokujin77]

This really is one of the most laughable mcdojo webpages I have ever seen. It says that she is a 5th dan? How'd she get that? Did she turn up in her FMB's and black lycra and squat/bend over a lot (just like on page 5)?

Dreadful.

[mingshi]

Well, everyone needs to be prepared for the worst situation... I mean, the bad guys are going to attack hot MILFs in their bedrooms, aren't they?

[Raindrop]

"GRANDMASTER D.P. HUTTON, KUDAN (10th Degree Black Belt)"

I always thought KU means 9 :P I don't even wanna know what he is a "10th dan" in anways. Maybe he counted all his shodans together? :3

lol and this "pattented knife" is called "Hutton's Edge". xD

btw, here's more on this guy: http://www.huttonryu.com/SokeDPHutton.html

Notice how it doesn't mention ANYWHERE what dans he got and which senseis guided him. It only says what all he's a member of. He calls himself a grandmaster because he won a grandmaster award. Wow.

Any normal martial artists would proudly put in his bio under which senseis they have studied and how and when they received their dan grading... very suspicious this guy... and I cannot find anything else about his "pattented knife" either.

EDIT: Ah, I get it! He's a 10th dan in his own MA he made up: "Hutton Ryu Jitsu"

[Bee-Otch]

Grandmaster Hutton specializes in Knife Defensive Techniques (http://www.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/hutton.html) using a special knife that he has patented. (http://www.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/hutton.html)

So, how useful would that be then? I mean if he has to use a special knife he's patented. A rubber one or something? Even if it's not doesn't every mugger have to be supplied with one?

Mike


Well, everyone needs to be prepared for the worst situation... I mean, the bad guys are going to attack hot MILFs in their bedrooms, aren't they?

If you look under seminar, "Grandmaster" Hutton does seminar for "rape crisis". everything makes sense in this mcdojo.

[garyquinn1704]

Must be the copywriter within me? Loved this quote from their *ahem* Professor

"I have been involved in the martial arts for forty-six (48) years"

[Bee-Otch]

a more serious question is how can they do this, tell all this lies with a straight face?

They use japanese names and terminolgies for their stuffs but on this page (http://www.americankenpobu-jutsu.com/InternationalSoke.html) the picture is probably hinting that it is deeply hidden in the forest temple, ancestral birthplace of the art. it's so hidden that you won't find it in japan; guess what, because it's a chinese place, it's the Shaolin temple.

[ccheck5]

lolz well what can you say its as mcdojo as it can get. oh and i just noticed on one of the pages on the milf's web page the motto of the dojo is 'bring it on'

[Raindrop]

So basically anyone can just make up their own "martial art" and then become "soke" and then make up easy "grading" which makes them be 10th Dan in their own Martial Art?

"INTERNATIONAL SOKE-HEAD FOUNDER SOCIETY
KOKUSAI SOKE-SHUSO KAI HOMBU INTERNATIONAL
SOKESHIP, HEADFOUNDER, HEADFAMILIES,
GRANDMASTERS COUNCIL "

They might juggle around with Japanese terms and stuff but it'll always just remain the maffia.

"Sokeship"??? Who the hell comes up with this stuff??? lol

EDIT: lol Dr. ? xD This is just getting better and better... can't you buy Dr. titles on ebay?

[Kenzan]

Well, he can't be too far gone. I didn't see the title "Dr." in front of his Sokeship.
I like it when they do that.
:D

[sirius1906]

that makes me sick. just signed the guess book to tell them stop the lies and stop teaching their made up art. of course, it doesn't show when i tried to view it.

[Kenzan]

Well, he can't be too far gone. I didn't see the title "Dr." in front of his Sokeship.
I like it when they do that.
:D

Ugh.....Nope. They did it.

http://americankenpobu-jutsu.com/professor.html

[Anime12478]

that makes me sick. just signed the guess book to tell them stop the lies and stop teaching their made up art. of course, it doesn't show when i tried to view it.
It's probably one of those cases where they filter through the responses before they are posted. So, most likely, your post won't be up there because it says nothing positive (not that there is, anyways) about their art and wantint to pursue the same thing he is doing.

[Raindrop]

omg yet another guy who goes up in Dan grade every single year. Whatever happened to having to wait the dan grade number of years before being able to take any dan grading? What a load of beepee.

I can't believe these people call themselves Karatekas...

And I decided to start my own martial art: Rainduropu Jutsu. I hereby declare myself 10th dan in Rainduropu-Jutsu... oh and I'm automatically Soke. Heh. In the dojo we wear bunny suits and we study the acient art of catching flies with chop sticks. Yep.

-___-;

But really, any dojo, where they put the swords down on the kensen, should just be shut down or be renamed "gym". Have you guys spotted the jo yet, that was tossed behind some equipment against the wall? :angry:

[Bee-Otch]

[QUOTE=Raindrop;296794]So basically anyone can just make up their own "martial art" and then become "soke" and then make up easy "grading" which makes them be 10th Dan in their own Martial Art?

yeah, but what's the point of claiming something you are not? will you feel good about it while you know damn well you'll be a fool in the eyes of anybody that have some knowledge about martial arts? every nights when you go to bed how would you feel to know that you are a liar to your students and more importantly to yourself; that your students are looking up to you admiring you but you earned this admiration through a blatant lie. the students are too blame too, there is no excuse in this internet age to but so ignorants and let yourself fooled by some cons.

but one thing that is not a lie thought, hot chick is an authentic actress (http://imdb.com/name/nm1856164/) !

hey! i didn't know you could be phd in martial arts.

[MikeH]

Ugh.....Nope. They did it.

http://americankenpobu-jutsu.com/professor.html

Considering I'm submitting my PhD thesis on 14th Dec, assuming I pass my viva early in the new year I think everyone will have to call me Dr. Mike Sensei for a few days... :eek: Think I'll get me a dozen or so badges to put on my keikogi for no particularly good reason too :confused2:confused2 I'll double what I charge for dojo fees as a one of Sokey-dokey McDojo special promo event.

Cool.

Mike

[sirius1906]

[quote=Raindrop;296794]
hey! i didn't know you could be phd in martial arts.

we have Mcdojo, why not mccollege? pay me 10,000, i'll give you your PhD paper. kanji certificate will cost 1000 extra.

[Fonsz]

Ugh.....Nope. They did it.

http://americankenpobu-jutsu.com/professor.html
Dr. Ron does however know what beauty is. Not the MILF's from his dojo. I ruptured my spleen laughing with this qualification of the Ninja women....:eek:
http://flickr.com/photos/kenpo

[Bee-Otch]

Oh, now i see what a dream of a mcsensei or mcsoke looks like, a mccampus with him as the mcchancelor: UMMA, University of Mc Martial Arts. Only 5th dan are eligible to apply.
"We at UMMA offers a lot of online martial art class (completion of each class grants you an extra mcdan) sped up course available for those who have to work full time, getting your dans have never been so easy from the comfort of your couch, we at UMMA strive for excellence. Bring it On!"

[Raindrop]

Dr. Ron does however know what beauty is. Not the MILF's from his dojo. I ruptured my spleen laughing with this qualification of the Ninja women....:eek:
http://flickr.com/photos/kenpo



This one is my favourite, the titel is "Dan Day"

http://flickr.com/photos/kenpo/409239548/

This statue knows it all.

[Kenzan]

This one is my favourite, the titel is "Dan Day"

http://flickr.com/photos/kenpo/409239548/

This statue knows it all.

If you gloss over the whole collection:
It appears the good Doktor is a Professior in the science of pervitude as well.
Anyone see a pattern?

:smoker:

[Raindrop]

If you gloss over the whole collection:
It appears the good Doktor is a Professior in the science of pervitude as well.
Anyone see a pattern?

:smoker:

That's what I was thinking... those girls are all underaged, right?

[Bee-Otch]

This one is my favourite, the titel is "Dan Day"

http://flickr.com/photos/kenpo/409239548/

This statue knows it all.

its actually Jesus being exasperated with all this mcdojo business.
Notice how the mcsoke's gis (http://flickr.com/photos/kenpo/332023246/) are light grey? they must have washed them over and over again (with bottle caps in the dryer) to make them look they have worn them for forty-six years (48 years) i just notice the guy with his guard up cut a hole on his pants right knee. training has been tough kyokushin street fighter ryu style. he fought a tiger bare handed, all the tiger could do has bite that hole in his pants.

[Bee-Otch]

If you gloss over the whole collection:
It appears the good Doktor is a Professior in the science of pervitude as well.
Anyone see a pattern?

:smoker:


talk about pervitude, tell me what does the pattented hutton's knife (http://www.huttonryu.com/HuttonsEdge.html) looks like?!!

[Fonsz]

talk about pervitude, tell me what does the pattented hutton's knife (http://www.huttonryu.com/HuttonsEdge.html) looks like?!!
You can always invite him to have a Seminar near you. He is available for these kind of events.....:ponder::eek:

[Kenzan]

From that link:

World Class Tacticle Knife Training available.


Freudian slip? He meant to say World Class testicle perhaps?

Also it gets better:

Weponary Training Methods

Maybe he meant "Weberian"
Which, as we all know, is of or relating to the socioeconomic theories of Max Weber. (Ok, I'm reaching.)

But perhaps most shocking:

"Youth training techniques "

I can see it now: "Why no your honor! Me teaching children to combat and kill people with a foot long knife isn't irresponsible at all."

[ghostdancer]

Her resume on IMDB says she an orange belt
! thought she had a black belt on in those pictures ! fast promotion there folks

[Bee-Otch]

From that link:

World Class Tacticle Knife Training available.


Freudian slip? He meant to say World Class testicle perhaps?

Also it gets better:

Weponary Training Methods

Maybe he meant "Weberian"
Which, as we all know, is of or relating to the socioeconomic theories of Max Weber. (Ok, I'm reaching.)

But perhaps most shocking:

"Youth training techniques "

I can see it now: "Why no your honor! Me teaching children to combat and kill people with a foot long knife isn't irresponsible at all."



Just say it. Its fucking dildo with groves!

[Kenzan]

Just say it. Its fucking dildo!

Is there any other kind?
:confused::laugh:

[Bee-Otch]

Is there any other kind?
:confused::laugh:

No if you master mcgrandmaster hutton's pattented mcknife mctechniques.

By the way i think I opened Pandora's Box (http://www.huttonryu.com/links.html) Now I know how she felt.

Beware of the World Unions of Sokes (http://www.sokes.com/) notice there is a online membership form. "At UMMA (University of Mc Martial Arts) becoming a McSoke have never been that easy, Bring it On!"

[Kenzan]

I wonder if the "World Martial Arts League" fights the criminal forces of evil? (And Rational thought?)
:D

[Badger]

I wonder if the "World Martial Arts League" fights the criminal forces of evil? (And Rational thought?)
:D

Maybe they just spelt justice wrong and added 2 more words.

[Big One]

If you put the word "Franchise" into the picture, you will understand the whole thing. By the way "franchise" make me urge for a Starbuck right now.

[Charles Lockhar]

Personally, I thought having at least one guy be the The Professor made sense. After all, they had a bunch of The Skippers, and I noted several Gilligan's as well. And while they're seriously lacking in Gingers, they seem pretty flush with Mary Annes. Not really seeing any Mister and Misses Howells though.

-Charles

[Raindrop]

Did anyone else see that the acronym of World Union of Sokes is W.U.S. ? xD


"THE WORLD UNION OF SOKES WAS FOUNDED WITH ONE COMMON IDEA
THE UNION OF THE LEADERS OF THE MARTIAL ARTS AROUND THE WORLD."

What are they, "sokes" or kings? Overlords?


"SOKESHIP CERTIFICATION \ RECOGNITION REQUIREMENTS:

1. Must be at least 30 years of age.
2. Must have documented proof of at least 25 years of training in the
martial arts.
3. Must have at least a rank of 5th degree black belt by a recognized
organization, federation etc.
4. Must have at least Black belt in two or more other martial arts or
system.
5. Must supply a complete resume of personal achievements and background in
the martial arts.
6. Must agree to a background investigation to include both personal
background and martial arts background.
7. (IMPORTANT) Must be free from criminal record.
8. Must agree to demonstrate and explain their art before the W.U.S.
Executive Board.
9. Must agree to advertise only ranks and arts registered with the W.U.S.
and not create sub-arts.
10. Must agree to advertise Grandmaster status in only the art recognized by
the W.U.S.
11. Must agree to recognized and respect all W.U.S. ranks and certification.
12. Must agree to help other martial artist to achieve their goals in the
martial arts."

Of course it doesn't say anywhere what they mean by "recognized". See how it doesn't say "internationally recognized" or anything like that. So basicly Grandmaster Potatohead Jutsu Ninjer who is a 5th dan in his own creation is free to join.

I wonder if I they'd let a certified JKA godan enter or if they pack their stuff and run off to the next state? Then again no JKAer of any kind would ever want anything to do with these kind of people.

[Kenzan]

Personally, I thought having at least one guy be the The Professor made sense. After all, they had a bunch of The Skippers, and I noted several Gilligan's as well. And while they're seriously lacking in Gingers, they seem pretty flush with Mary Annes. Not really seeing any Mister and Misses Howells though.

-Charles


Brilliant:)

[Kenzan]

Of course it doesn't say anywhere what they mean by "recognized". See how it doesn't say "internationally recognized" or anything like that.


I hearby and duly recognize them as fully fledged international nutbars.
:D

[Andrew S]

Err, would you like to rephrase that...? :D


Dont be bashful! Obviously Andrew is having an out-of-closet experience and we should support him ;)

Yikes! That's what happens when you're trying to post while SWMBO wants something done RIGHT NOW...

Ok, we've established:

the soke boards
the hints that they are a legit Japanese art (complete with all the incorrect Japanese - a 10th dan is not kudan, no-one says shichidan, etc.)
the big gutted masters
the "proffessors" (what exactly do they proffess?)
10th dans who were born AFTER genuine 8th dan holders of real arts were already yudansha uchi-deshi or kenshusei
patented techniques
multiple titlesConclusion...

Fake crap.

[Ignatz]

Iggy's girls been much mo bettah!

[Zao18]

I nearly started crying after watching the mpegs. A travesty!

[Bee-Otch]

Yes! a travesty of the fight between obi-wan and Anakin on Mustafar. That just made me want to rewatch star war 3.

[neko]

Must be the copywriter within me? Loved this quote from their *ahem* Professor

"I have been involved in the martial arts for forty-six (48) years"



don't forget the last part of the sentence.


"...and I have been teaching martial arts for fourty (42) years.

:laugh:

[Kenzan]

don't forget the last part of the sentence.



:laugh:

Heh...Nice catch..So depending on what he meant, he was either a 4 or 2 year old Sensei.
:eek:

[Luke]

oh (reads web site) oh dear,(reads some more)....

dear goddess, she's in my neck of the woods.....

dear gods i'm going to be sick......(runs to bathroom)....

[Kagerou]

9. Must agree to advertise only ranks and arts registered with the W.U.S.
and not create sub-arts.


AAAHHHAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

WTF does that really mean? You can't make it up unless we already did first and patented it?

Come on, does any of that garbage look like original Asian martial arts? Like someone else already said, their shinai still have the red strings on them. Please someone go to their dojo and deliver a laugh in person for me.

[Kenzan]

Where are the videos with the swords?
I saw only Yahoo stuff with Kooky knockouts that my Grandma could punch stronger than.

[ScottUK]

First page, at the bottom.

I can't wait for Kaoru to see this thread...

[Kenzan]

Saw it....
.....I jes' vomited a bit in my mouf.

[Andrew S]

Can we all chip in to send Kenzan and Kaoru to visit them in person?

[ScottUK]

Well, I visited the local soke professor in my town on behalf of E-Budo and Bullshido - I think the nearest person has to stop by, say hi and ask about the lineage... ;)

[neko]

what did you say exactly? i am a pretty gutsy person, and love to stir up trouble at times, but i wouldn't know how to approach something like that. i take it you were polite and all. or do you just throw decorum out the window when dealing with someone like that? i can't imagine it was pretty. give us the dirt! :)

[ScottUK]

I just went and queried all his qualifications which were obviously horseshit.

I did a kobudo class (which was equally pretend), had a chat later which did nothing but confirm the suspicions. I enjoyed his videos of him breaking bricks about 20 years ago, and the tough talk afterwards about him not backing down from anyone. It was kinda cute, considering I have had poos that were a greater danger to my wellbeing.

Try Googling for 'Professor Moclair' and 'Bullshido' or 'E-Budo'...

Anyway, back to the show.

[tango]

Try Googling for 'Professor Moclair' and 'Bullshido' or 'E-Budo'...




hehe... well this is rather interesting...


Also in 1986 Professor James Moclair took the British martial arts community by storm by also becoming the British Nunchacku Champion and even today he is still considered to be one of the finest nunchacku practitioners in the world.
[...]
He also holds additional grades as follow’s arts; 8th Dan Kempo Karate,
8th Dan Ko-Budo, 6th Dan Aiki-jutsu, 5th Dan Traditional Judo, 5thDan Combat Judo,

[Big One]

Can we all chip in to send Kenzan and Kaoru to visit them in person?

For God sake, they are Sokes. To be able to talk to them, we have to promote Kenzan and Kaoru to Soke first.

[tango]

oh, even better! O-Hanshi?!??

I just keep linking to newer and better stuff...


Professor Thornton consulted Professor J. Moclair, 9 th Dan (O-Hanshi) who was both his senior Grandmaster and friend of several years.


http://www.maa-i.com/who/6/_ALAN_S__THORNTON/hauptteil__alan_s__thornton.html

It's hard to read the text at the link because every other word seems to be either:
1. Professor
2. Soke
3. O-Hanshi
4. Soke Shodai
5. Grandmaster
6. Senior Grandmaster...

Oy vey!

[tango]

Professor Moclair in action...
Chicks only dig guys who got skills.

Like, mad numchuck skills...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oalKaqR_Iyk

.."kama sickle" skills...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTX9ouxnc8

...tonfa skills....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUwBA4Y7X5o

... jo staff skills...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJEmrH-tq7A

....Fire Brick Hammer Fist and Punch skills....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFg_3nTzgJk

... combat ki skills....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gk5OM5mKqs

... naginata skills...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW6qGPnswVc

[Fred27]

Professor Moclair in action...
Chicks only dig guys who got skills.

Like, mad numchuck skills...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oalKaqR_Iyk

.."kama sickle" skills...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDTX9ouxnc8

...tonfa skills....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUwBA4Y7X5o

... jo staff skills...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJEmrH-tq7A

....Fire Brick Hammer Fist and Punch skills....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFg_3nTzgJk

... combat ki skills....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gk5OM5mKqs

... naginata skills...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW6qGPnswVc

"Adding comments has been disabled for this video."
Very smart of him.

[Kenzan]

I like how they walk back after a "killing blow."
Which wasn't and isn't.
This is just heinous.

Edit..Opps this comment was for the Kilgore thread..

meh..it fits here too.

[Bailemor]

I could not stop laughing at this guy, he is seriously going to injure himself doing this.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SpuOkf5jSFw&feature=related

[satsumaruma]

Oh I so hope he does.

[samurai80]

I found the guy who sells the "O" title to these guys. For all your o-sensei, o-hanshi, o- renshi, and o-dan needs...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajHVLJG0298

[Kagerou]

I love the combat ki vid....

"now you too can teach your students how not to hit you so when you put on your own demo you can show off how strong you are by umm having them ummm errr ...hit you?"

[Koffein]

I found the guy who sells the "O" title to these guys. For all your o-sensei, o-hanshi, o- renshi, and o-dan needs...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajHVLJG0298

i must spread some.....
:D :D :D :D

[kendoindia]

I found the guy who sells the "O" title to these guys. For all your o-sensei, o-hanshi, o- renshi, and o-dan needs...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajHVLJG0298
hahahahhaha so nice of you to send this link, really the commercial world is like that only, :cheerful:

[ScottUK]

Dr Mahmoodi,

Why are you commenting on this thread when you also use the title 'soke'...?

http://goldendragons1.tripod.com/chief.htm

Why is this? Are you aware of what soke actually means? If not, I suggest you start here:

Koryu.com Article (http://www.koryu.com/library/wbodiford1.html)

Also, you are a 'professor' and have a PhD at the 'American College of Martial Science'. Is your title of 'Doctor' legally recognised? I understand that ACMS is an extremely questionable organisation...?

E-Budo Article (http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6392)

[h2o]

Haha, this thread totally made my day :)

I am at a total loss for words. Say, the guy with the "Okinawan sickles", is there a part 2 which show him picking up his naughty bits from the floor? ;)

[ace]

hahahahhaha so nice of you to send this link, really the commercial world is like that only, :cheerful:

it was all fun and games untill they try the song with "e"
then the shit hit the fan.

[skilled]

The guy in the last picture of page 1 is 10 dan. He must be unbeatable.


JAJJAJAJAAJJA !!!!! XD JAJAJAAJKAJAJAJJAJAAJJJAJAJJ I LAUGHED SO FUKIN' LOUD BECAUSE OF THAT XD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD!!!!!!!! ("mc dojo" )xD

[LNGUYEN]

Dr Mahmoodi,

Why are you commenting on this thread when you also use the title 'soke'...?

http://goldendragons1.tripod.com/chief.htm

Why is this? Are you aware of what soke actually means? If not, I suggest you start here:

Koryu.com Article (http://www.koryu.com/library/wbodiford1.html)

Also, you are a 'professor' and have a PhD at the 'American College of Martial Science'. Is your title of 'Doctor' legally recognised? I understand that ACMS is an extremely questionable organisation...?

E-Budo Article (http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6392)

Scott, You are gold.:smoker:

[Mr. T.]

Dr Mahmoodi,

Why are you commenting on this thread when you also use the title 'soke'...?

http://goldendragons1.tripod.com/chief.htm

Why is this? Are you aware of what soke actually means? If not, I suggest you start here:

Koryu.com Article (http://www.koryu.com/library/wbodiford1.html)

Also, you are a 'professor' and have a PhD at the 'American College of Martial Science'. Is your title of 'Doctor' legally recognised? I understand that ACMS is an extremely questionable organisation...?

E-Budo Article (http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6392)

hehehehehe, I some one got caught with his pants down, well done :laugh:

[Spooky]

Dr Mahmoodi,

Your site says you are 10th dan in Ninjutsu?

Who awarded you this rank.

It also says you are a member of the BBD (Bujinkan Brian Dojo.)
When was the last time you trained with Brian McCarthy?
What rank do you hold in the BBD?
I'd be bloody surprised if it's 10th Dan for sure!

Oh and just for good measure I'd love to hear about your Koga Ryu experience.

[ReKru]

By the way i think I opened Pandora's Box (http://www.huttonryu.com/links.html) Now I know how she felt.


uuuuh .. http://www.huttonryu.com/HuttonsEdge.html
"The absolute must for serious tacticle Knife situation"

anyone else reminded of that 'crocodile dundee' scene?

"That's not a knife, THIS is a knife" : http://www.apexresourcegroup.com/images/western_bowie.jpg

:D

Bout the chick .. I'd really like to laugh, (or drool...), but her poems (pg. 3) sound like she went trough a lot of crap, so ... ... no comment. She should go to a decent MA dojo.
Hanging out with those McSokes is not going to help with anything.

[garyquinn1704]

is it just me or does Hutton's Edge look some bone-handled blunted old artefact dug up on a Live Time Team episode.

And do you carry the attractive box in case the knife is too blunt you just bash your assailant over the head? Or does it double as a bullet-proof substitue in your breast pocket?

[Soldier Blue]

Dr Mahmoodi,

Why are you commenting on this thread when you also use the title 'soke'...?



Nothing beats a good soke in the bathtub.

[satsumaruma]

Nothing like a soak in the bathrub for a good beat.



ahem

[Soldier Blue]

Never since living in Japan.

[MikeH]

Dr Mahmoodi,

Why are you commenting on this thread when you also use the title 'soke'...?

http://goldendragons1.tripod.com/chief.htm

Why is this? Are you aware of what soke actually means? If not, I suggest you start here:

Koryu.com Article (http://www.koryu.com/library/wbodiford1.html)

Also, you are a 'professor' and have a PhD at the 'American College of Martial Science'. Is your title of 'Doctor' legally recognised? I understand that ACMS is an extremely questionable organisation...?

E-Budo Article (http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6392)

Computer says no rep for you :(

[Soldier Blue]

Computer says no rep for you :(
Why wont it let you give rep points?

[MikeH]

You have to spread it around before you can give rep to someone again (if you've given it to them before) to stop you from just adding rep to your buddy's or creating a separate account to just add rep to your first.

Mike

[neko]

it also prevents little shits from turning your rep red.

[Andrew S]

it also prevents little shits from turning your rep red.
But even that
was not enough
to save some people.
"Satori at a glance"

[Andrew S]

I found the guy who sells the "O" title to these guys. For all your o-sensei, o-hanshi, o- renshi, and o-dan needs...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajHVLJG0298

http://www.sayagain.co.uk/b3tapix/images/humphrey.png

Wanted to give rep but must spread... you know the rest.

[samurai80]

Its the thought that counts...unless your thought was a baby...then your thought probably can't count yet. Also, your thoughts don't count if your a
10th dan ninja soke, because ninja thoughts are just an illusion.

[kendoindia]

Dr Mahmoodi,

Why are you commenting on this thread when you also use the title 'soke'...?

http://goldendragons1.tripod.com/chief.htm

Why is this? Are you aware of what soke actually means? If not, I suggest you start here:

Koryu.com Article (http://www.koryu.com/library/wbodiford1.html)

Also, you are a 'professor' and have a PhD at the 'American College of Martial Science'. Is your title of 'Doctor' legally recognised? I understand that ACMS is an extremely questionable organisation...?

E-Budo Article (http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6392)

Hello dear Mr.Scott,
thanks fot he reminder for the reply on this matter,
well due to busy hours I was not surfing the forum much,
well I was honored by the title's from different organisations for my services to promote martial arts in particular at Hyderabad & generally in India,
well I do belong to a family of mystic warriors having the tradition following from the lineage since 1400 years, the last mystic warrior of our family who was in the kings army here in the Asafjahi dynasty from our family is a century back, after the peace era here they shifted to the duties of religious heads of the state.

I am incharge of the rituals of my forefathers shrine, am attaching a few photos for your reference, (2) the rally going towards the shrine to offer & perform the rituals (1) am standing at the shrine offering my respects & praying (3) am in traditional outfit in the ceremony of being presented with the honorary citizenship of Miyoshi city,Hiroshima,Japan. (http://www.geocities.com/goldendragons/reference.htm)

as for the title Dr. with my name is that, I had done my masters in alternative medicines & practice accupuncture & traditional bonesetting along with different other therapies at my place.

does someone need some special status to comment on any forum? any member can comment upon.
well hope that your doubts are cleared, if not feel free to ask.

with all due respects to one & all here, if this hurts anybody am sorry for it.
but will ask you for your good advices,

[MikeH]

well I was honored by the title's from different organisations for my services to promote martial arts in particular at Hyderabad & generally in India,
well I do belong to a family of mystic warriors having the tradition following from the lineage since 1400 years, the last mystic warrior of our family who was in the kings army here in the Asafjahi dynasty from our family is a century back, after the peace era here they shifted to the duties of religious heads of the state.

Well I'm not Scott, but.... Your website does give a slightly suspicious impression, many of the things written on it are similar to those written on websites for bad dojo (McDojo) sites. Lists of titles like Dr, Prof and so on tend to set off alarm bells for most people involved in budo that post on here and elsewhere. For example, I'm about to submit my PhD thesis, assuming I pass I will legitimately be able to call myself Dr. Haft. However this title is an academic one and bears no relation whatsoever to my budo experience or rank, none of my ranks in aikido, kendo or iaido entitle me to call myself Dr (or anything else for that matter). So I wouldn't do so myself.

Not wishing to question your credentials or experience, rather trying to point out some of the things that some people would interpret as suspicious claims with regards to Budo.

Regards

Mike

[Spooky]

Hello dear Mr.Scott,



Well I'm not Scott either, I'm much shorter and better looking, but could you please address the following questions which I think you may have missed:


Dr Mahmoodi,

Your site says you are 10th dan in Ninjutsu?

Who awarded you this rank.

It also says you are a member of the BBD (Bujinkan Brian Dojo.)
When was the last time you trained with Brian McCarthy?
What rank do you hold in the BBD?
I'd be bloody surprised if it's 10th Dan for sure!

Oh and just for good measure I'd love to hear about your Koga Ryu experience.

[ScottUK]

well I was honored by the title's from different organisations for my services to promote martial arts in particular at Hyderabad & generally in IndiaThe use of soke is not one that can be given from 'different organisations' - it is in fact the title of someone who acts as 'successor to and preserver of a particular historical and cultural legacy'*. It cannot realistically be applied to modern arts in the proper sense. It DOES NOT mean 'founder' or 'grandmaster'.


well I do belong to a family of mystic warriors having the tradition following from the lineage since 1400 years
I am incharge of the rituals of my forefathers shrine, am attaching a few photos for your referenceGreat stuff there, but unfortunately irrelevant to your useage of Japanese titles. Having a martial heritage in India does not confer anything in Japanese Budo. If it did, I would be claiming a Menkyo Kaiden in Knights-Templar-jutsu.


as for the title Dr. with my name is that, I had done my masters in alternative medicines & practice accupuncture & traditional bonesetting along with different other therapies at my place.Once again, sorry, but irrelevant to your budo practice - as already commented upon by Mr Haft above.


does someone need some special status to comment on any forum? any member can comment upon.Nope. Just a sense of humour and good budo spirit.


with all due respects to one & all here, if this hurts anybody am sorry for it.Please remember that one thing the forums are good for is exposing frauds. Bullshido, E-Budo, MAP, KW etc etc all have had their fair share of fraudsters listed and laughed at. If you Google for any of the known Budo Pirates, you will find the forum discussions about them quite easily - and so will their potential future students. It is often purely for self-promotion when someone puts themselves on a pedestal above others. Quite often, the person doing this is being fraudulent too.

It is probably best that you don't expose yourself to such derision by using titles that are incorrect and questionable.


Well I'm not Scott either, I'm much shorter and better lookingThat's because the gods of ugly haven't visited Hobbiton yet.

* W. Bodiford, article (http://www.koryu.com/library/wbodiford1.html) on www.koryu.com

[willszenith]

Wicked awesome....

[sirius1906]

The use of soke is not one that can be given from 'different organisations' - it is in fact the title of someone who acts as 'successor to and preserver of a particular historical and cultural legacy'*. It cannot realistically be applied to modern arts in the proper sense. It DOES NOT mean 'founder' or 'grandmaster'.

Great stuff there, but unfortunately irrelevant to your useage of Japanese titles. Having a martial heritage in India does not confer anything in Japanese Budo. If it did, I would be claiming a Menkyo Kaiden in Knights-Templar-jutsu.

Once again, sorry, but irrelevant to your budo practice - as already commented upon by Mr Haft above.

Nope. Just a sense of humour and good budo spirit.

Please remember that one thing the forums are good for is exposing frauds. Bullshido, E-Budo, MAP, KW etc etc all have had their fair share of fraudsters listed and laughed at. If you Google for any of the known Budo Pirates, you will find the forum discussions about them quite easily - and so will their potential future students. It is often purely for self-promotion when someone puts themselves on a pedestal above others. Quite often, the person doing this is being fraudulent too.

It is probably best that you don't expose yourself to such derision by using titles that are incorrect and questionable.

That's because the gods of ugly haven't visited Hobbiton yet.

* W. Bodiford, article (http://www.koryu.com/library/wbodiford1.html) on www.koryu.com (http://www.koryu.com)

so, uh....what do you say, doc? enlighten us.

[satsumaruma]

Well I'm not Scott either, I'm much shorter and better looking, :

everyone is:laugh::laugh:


The use of soke is not one that can be given from 'different organisations' - it is in fact the title of someone who acts as 'successor to and preserver of a particular historical and cultural legacy'*. It cannot realistically be applied to modern arts in the proper sense. It DOES NOT mean 'founder' or 'grandmaster'.

Please remember that one thing the forums are good for is exposing frauds. Bullshido, E-Budo, MAP, KW etc etc all have had their fair share of fraudsters listed and laughed at. If you Google for any of the known Budo Pirates, you will find the forum discussions about them quite easily - and so will their potential future students. It is often purely for self-promotion when someone puts themselves on a pedestal above others. Quite often, the person doing this is being fraudulent too.

It is probably best that you don't expose yourself to such derision by using titles that are incorrect and questionable.



I personally don't have a problem with someone using the honorific title of Doctor even in iai or Kendo. the only thing I would suggest though is that it would tend to lead people into thinking that someone had a doctorate in these arts which would not be the case. As far as I am aware not even the Japanese infer such titles onto martial art students.

I agree about the Soke and it does imply delusions of grandeur which tend to be associated with the McDojo cults.

My thought on this chaps site would be that it come across as self- aggrandising and would benefit from quite a lot more humility. But I acknowledge ths is from my own, very English perspective, and things are likely to be done very differently on the Indian sub-continent. But still I would advise to tone it down considerably and show a lot more humility.


Great stuff there, but unfortunately irrelevant to your useage of Japanese titles. Having a martial heritage in India does not confer anything in Japanese Budo. If it did, I would be claiming a Menkyo Kaiden in Knights-Templar-jutsu.

So you are a muslim slaying once Roman catholic now gnostic frenchman with a penchant for growing a long beard,setting rules that would eventually lead to grown men developing odd handshake systems and creating a myth that allowed Dan Brown to earn more money than his ability would have otherwise merited.
:)



Nope. Just a sense of humour and good budo spirit.

Absolutely.



Wicked awesome....

what is?

[ScottUK]

So you are a muslim slaying once Roman catholic now gnostic frenchman with a penchant for growing a long beard,setting rules that would eventually lead to grown men developing odd handshake systems and creating a myth that allowed Dan Brown to earn more money than his ability would have otherwise merited.
:)Yep. Your point? ;)

[satsumaruma]

Yep. Your point? ;)


Nothing. Just clarifying.

And at least the talentless Mr Brown has made a few bob:)

[kendoindia]

"It is probably best that you don't expose yourself to such derision by using titles that are incorrect and questionable."
Ok dear Mr.Scott, got your point, had a meeting with the webmaster & got the soke removed, I honor all those who sincerely gave their advices / comments,
please accept my regards

[MikeH]

I personally don't have a problem with someone using the honorific title of Doctor even in iai or Kendo. the only thing I would suggest though is that it would tend to lead people into thinking that someone had a doctorate in these arts which would not be the case. As far as I am aware not even the Japanese infer such titles onto martial art students.

That's kinda what I was saying, using a legitimate academic title is fine, just that unfortunately because of a long history of abuse by martial arts charlatans it can look awkward on a website.

The only time I'd use an academic title like Dr or Prof on a budo related site was if there was a list of other people on there that included their title of Mr, Ms or Mrs, i.e.:

Mr. John Smith 2nd Dan
Ms Jane Doe 1st Dan
Dr. John Doe 3rd Dan etc etc...

I'd not do this:

John Smith 2nd Dan
Jane Doe 1st Dan
Dr John Doe 3rd Dan

It implies that the academic title is related to the budo qualifications of the person.

I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to use a title you've earned or been bestowed by someone, it's just unfortunate that the fraudsters have got there first and made it look bad. We got into trouble over on E-Budo because my aikido teacher is also a Rev and someone posted a thread on there questioning his legitimacy, of course as in this thread the fraud hunters came out to expose him and managed to expose him as having a legitimate 7th Dan awarded by one of Ueshiba's uchideshi. Bang up job there guys. One of the most objectionable things they said was that him being a Rev meant he was some sort of cult leader when his rev title has nothing to do with his aikido. So I have sympathy for anyone else put through this process (waves at kendoindia), but I do have to say that our old website didn't make it clear what was what and probably lead to the situation being worse than it needed to be (I've since re-designed the whole site (http://www.bhaikido.co.uk)), I'm still in two minds as to the Rev title being on there at all and suspect I'll prob remove it. Only reason I haven't already is that Rev is a title less abused by McDojo fraudsters as Dr or Prof...

Best

Mike

[Spooky]

Ok dear Mr.Scott, got your point, had a meeting with the webmaster & got the soke removed, I honor all those who sincerely gave their advices / comments,
please accept my regards

Could you please adress this:


Dr Mahmoodi,

Your site says you are 10th dan in Ninjutsu?

Who awarded you this rank.

It also says you are a member of the BBD (Bujinkan Brian Dojo.)
When was the last time you trained with Brian McCarthy?
What rank do you hold in the BBD?
I'd be bloody surprised if it's 10th Dan for sure!

Oh and just for good measure I'd love to hear about your Koga Ryu experience.

For some reason you keep missing this.

[kendoindia]

Could you please adress this:



For some reason you keep missing this.
I was trying to find out the membership card of BBD to put up the exact dates, well no lame excuses, my office is being renovated to open up fresh before the Xmas holidays, so the whole stuff is packed for the work,
will put up the details soon,bye

[ScottUK]

Ok dear Mr.Scott, got your point, had a meeting with the webmaster & got the soke removed, I honor all those who sincerely gave their advices / comments,
please accept my regardsNicely done there sir. Am impressed that you done such a thing so quickly.

[Spooky]

I was trying to find out the membership card of BBD to put up the exact dates, well no lame excuses, my office is being renovated to open up fresh before the Xmas holidays, so the whole stuff is packed for the work,
will put up the details soon,bye

What rank did you get in the BBD?

Shouldn't need a membership card for that. Are you still a current BBD member?

Who gave you your Judan in Ninjutsu?

I'm trying to keep to questions that wont involve you having to look through boxed up stuff. Funnily enough they are the same questions which really shouldn't be too hard to answer.

How long have you trained in Koga Ryu?

[Kenzan]

Who gave you your Judan in Ninjutsu?


He could tell you but, you know.....

It's a Ninja thing.
:D

[nikozamo]

i have the judan in kenjudo...

i could tell you guys...

but it`s a chilean thing :D

[Spooky]

He could tell you but, you know.....

It's a Ninja thing.
:D

It's ok he can tell me, I'm a fully signed up card carrying Ninja.

I even have the sexy boots too!

[Kagerou]

I personally don't have a problem with someone using the honorific title of Doctor even in iai or Kendo. the only thing I would suggest though is that it would tend to lead people into thinking that someone had a doctorate in these arts which would not be the case. As far as I am aware not even the Japanese infer such titles onto martial art students.

Well you can get a doctorate in martial arts. There are several universities in Japan that have masters level and doctorate programs. They teach theory, history, biomechanics, etc. You can major in kendo, judo or "other" (being a mix of several I think).

I've actually considered going but my wife would probably hang me out to dry for going back to school....:disapp: Just think...everyday would be kendo day....no job...no worries....just kendo.

[ScottUK]

Does the same college exist in Alabama? ;)

[JCM]

Well you can get a doctorate in martial arts. There are several universities in Japan that have masters level and doctorate programs. They teach theory, history, biomechanics, etc. You can major in kendo, judo or "other" (being a mix of several I think).

I've actually considered going but my wife would probably hang me out to dry for going back to school....:disapp: Just think...everyday would be kendo day....no job...no worries....just kendo.

Yes, but not exactly, my understanding is that these are sports science students to start with, not just kendo students. I believe they sort of 'major' with one of the martial arts and go on to further academic qualifications, but not just training in Kendo.

Please feel free to correct this if anyone has more/better info

[katanakid]

Honestly come on........ now my head hurts.

[katanakid]

i guess people will settle for anything

[Kagerou]

Yes, but not exactly, my understanding is that these are sports science students to start with, not just kendo students. I believe they sort of 'major' with one of the martial arts and go on to further academic qualifications, but not just training in Kendo.

Please feel free to correct this if anyone has more/better info

It's a bit like a kinesiology degree that specializes in only one sport but I'm pretty sure they call it a budo degree. I'll have to go home and check though....don't feel like sifting through the net at work.

[Kagerou]

i guess people will settle for anything


????? Not sure what you mean. If you doubt what I'm saying look it up yourself. There are at least two universities I know of...ones in Tokyo and the other is in chiba. It's a four year acredited course, not some mail away and suddenly you're a PhD.

[JCM]

It's a bit like a kinesiology degree that specializes in only one sport but I'm pretty sure they call it a budo degree. I'll have to go home and check though....don't feel like sifting through the net at work.

Sorry, I just reread my post, hope it didn't come across a bit snotty. After re-reading yours I think that we are talking about the same thing, just wanted to make a point that there is a proper academic program (including research), they are probably called budo degrees but I reckon they are essentially sports science with a view to martial arts.

I should have read your post more carefully in the first place...

[Kagerou]

Sorry, I just reread my post, hope it didn't come across a bit snotty. After re-reading yours I think that we are talking about the same thing, just wanted to make a point that there is a proper academic program (including research), they are probably called budo degrees but I reckon they are essentially sports science with a view to martial arts.

I should have read your post more carefully in the first place...

No problem. No insult taken. Here's the website for all those interested. Plug it into google to get the translation...there's no english page

http://www.budo-u.ac.jp/

[JCM]

Here we go (translated page):


Graduate School of Martial Arts Sports Sciences (martial arts sports Sciences)

[snip] This research department of the martial arts sports culture system, the motor system, health science, sports science and medical system, and Coaching Science, and the four series from them, both related to martial arts sports today - Research topics discussed as a problem, active research activities.


They also cover other 'western' sports ( gymnastics, etc...). Is a genuine academic facility/university (including overseas student programs), not a McDojo ran by fat blokes wearing greasy ninja t-shirts who are awarding judan grades to 25 year olds

[satsumaruma]

Well you can get a doctorate in martial arts. There are several universities in Japan that have masters level and doctorate programs. They teach theory, history, biomechanics, etc. You can major in kendo, judo or "other" (being a mix of several I think).

I've actually considered going but my wife would probably hang me out to dry for going back to school....:disapp: Just think...everyday would be kendo day....no job...no worries....just kendo.

Okay thanks for the advice.


Yes, but not exactly, my understanding is that these are sports science students to start with, not just kendo students. I believe they sort of 'major' with one of the martial arts and go on to further academic qualifications, but not just training in Kendo.

Please feel free to correct this if anyone has more/better info

And thanks for further clarification.

Lee

[Bee-Otch]

Check this (http://www.jaiyenyensystem.com/event.html) out.

They were interviewing their McSoke in the Fist of the North Star dvd.

[katanakid]

????? Not sure what you mean. If you doubt what I'm saying look it up yourself. There are at least two universities I know of...ones in Tokyo and the other is in chiba. It's a four year acredited course, not some mail away and suddenly you're a PhD.

sorry was talkin bout her bein doable new to forum thing:emb:

and i know of those Universities they do offer PhD's and they arent the only ones

[ccheck5]

sorry was talkin bout her bein doable new to forum thing:emb:

and i know of those Universities they do offer PhD's and they arent the only ones
its a milf, thats does mcdojo kendo, come on whats wrong with you

[rfoxmich]

Damn. She was born in Lansing, MI. Now I'm ashamed of living in that area

(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1856164/bio).

[katanakid]

its a milf, thats does mcdojo kendo, come on whats wrong with you

mcdojo lmao she is barely milf status tho

[katanakid]

Damn. She was born in Lansing, MI. Now I'm ashamed of living in that area

(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1856164/bio).

ya i would be 2

[katanakid]

Check this (http://www.jaiyenyensystem.com/event.html) out.

They were interviewing their McSoke in the Fist of the North Star dvd.

the 2 should stop taking the skinny guys food......... Mcsoke nice :laugh:

[ScottUK]

Triple posting is not clever. Try using the multi-quote button. And English.

[katanakid]

For some people English isnt their first language didnt think people were so bigotted here

[ScottUK]

No, they're not. Its just me.

A lot of people on here use English as a second language, but their first one isn't leet or kidspeak though.

[katanakid]

What are you upset cuz i didnt cll your girlfriend "doable" :(

[ScottUK]

Hehe I like you. Welcome to KW, muppet... ;)

[katanakid]

Ya i like you too :)

[ScottUK]

Ah sod it, off to the dojo...
(bangs head against wall)

[satsumaruma]

What are you upset cuz i didnt cll your girlfriend "doable" :(

If you had ever met Scott's wife you wouldn't have even wrote this in jest.

1 - she is incedibly pretty
2 - she is so very nice you just wouldn't use the phrase "doable" when referring to her.

But still....you haven't met her so you're forgiven:laugh:

[katanakid]

If you had ever met Scott's wife you wouldn't have even wrote this in jest.

1 - she is incedibly pretty
2 - she is so very nice you just wouldn't use the phrase "doable" when referring to her.

But still....you haven't met her so you're forgiven:laugh:

actually i wasnt talking about his wife i'm not THAT much of a rude prick..well maybe i am but i wasn't talking about her. I was talking about the pic posted that started this thread but you never know maybe i have met Scott's wife :devious:

JJ Scott never been to the UK :nervous:

[ScottUK]

Enough of this pillock, lets get back to the points in hand.

Dr Mahmoodi, any chance of answering Spooky's questions?

p.s. Sats - will pass on your compliments to the Mrs... :)

[Kenzan]

If you had ever met Scott's wife you wouldn't have even wrote this in jest.

1 - she is incedibly pretty


Indeed.
I'm thinking she's blind though.
I mean, she married ScottUK after all.
:D

[Kenzan]

From KendoKids Blog:
"katanakid Vancouver
Self proclaimed worlds biggest Kendo nut,trying to make it day to day by living the bushido way,while living in Sin City North.I truly believe that one day i woke up and somehow the spirit of a 15th century samurai warrior attached himself to mine in an attempt to make me see that i could do better in life.(Ya i could be a bit crazy but no more than anybody else)"

Erhm..huh....Living the "Bushido" way....
Oh my.

[ScottUK]

Indeed.
I'm thinking she's blind though.
I mean, she married ScottUK after all.
:DYou're a cock.


quoting from katanakid's blogForgiven, Kenz... ;)

[ccheck5]

You're a cock.

Forgiven, Kenz... ;)
lol any respect he could have gained is gone forever

[Spooky]

Dr Mahmoodi, any chance of answering Spooky's questions?


Indeed. I'm interested in learning when he last trained with Mr McCarthy and what rank he has archived in the BBD and his other Ninjutsu training.


Oh and yes I agree Scott's other half is lovely.

[katanakid]

lol any respect he could have gained is gone forever

Respect is earned in the Dojo not on messageboards,blog sites and forums :old_man:

[ccheck5]

respect is earned everywhere, not just in the dojo. you'd have to be completely ignorant to believe it is just in the dojo. and im nowhere near old, little boy

[katanakid]

lol any respect he could have gained is gone forever


respect is earned everywhere, not just in the dojo. you'd have to be completely ignorant to believe it is just in the dojo. and im nowhere near old, little boy

ooo someone a lttle sensitve about his age??? :hurt:

[samurai80]

He's 18. I wish I was eighteen again. I don't think he needs to be sensitive about his age. Maybe when your little nuts drop you'll understand.

[ccheck5]

thanks for the back up sami80.

someone who has such a distorted sense of reality like believing they have been endowed with the spirit of a samurai has no place to act high and mighty

[garyquinn1704]

we're all right behing you, ASSUME YOUR JODAN BOYS! :smoker:

[katanakid]

thanks for the back up sami80.

someone who has such a distorted sense of reality like believing they have been endowed with the spirit of a samurai has no place to act high and mighty

Actually yes i do and its nice to see a guy's girlfriend sticking up for him.
and by the way the Dojo is life

[ScottUK]

Where's that smiley I am looking for? Ah here it is... :rolleyes:

[katanakid]

Where's that smiley I am looking for? Ah here it is... :rolleyes:

someones gotta be tha bad guy here :evil:

[ccheck5]

oh shit kid, looks like you respect no dojo or what kendo even stands for. you should think about giving up on kendo if this is your attitude

[katanakid]

oh shit kid, looks like you respect no dojo or what kendo even stands for. you should think about giving up on kendo if this is your attitude

and this is a life lesson coming from someone with peachfuzz on their nuts :laugh:

[ccheck5]

and this is a life lesson coming from someone with peachfuzz on their nuts :laugh:
and this coming from someone who claims to live life by the code.

The code (http://katanakid.blogspot.com/2007/12/code_02.html)


Bushidō (武 (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%AD%A6)士 (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%A3%AB)道 (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%81%93), Bushidō? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Japanese)), meaning "Way of the Warrior", is a Japanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) code of conduct (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct) and a way of life, loosely analogous to the European concept of chivalry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry) and the Iranian concept of jawanmardi (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jawanmardi&action=edit), among others. It originates from the samurai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai) moral code and stresses frugality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frugality), loyalty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalty), martial arts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_arts) mastery and honour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour) unto death. Bushidō developed between the 9th to 12th centuries as set forth by numerous translated documents dating from the 12th to 16th centuries (as mentioned below). However, some dependable sources also state the document might have been formulated in the 17th century.
According to the Japanese dictionary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_dictionary) Shogakukan Kokugo Daijiten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon_kokugo_daijiten), "Bushidō is defined as a unique philosophy (ronri) that spread through the warrior class from the Muromachi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muromachi) (chusei) period." Nitobe Inazō (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitobe_Inaz%C5%8D), in his book Bushidō: The Soul of Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido:_The_Soul_of_Japan), described it in this way. "...Bushidō, then, is the code of moral principles which the samurai were required or instructed to observe... More frequently it is a code unuttered and unwritten... It was an organic growth of decades and centuries of military career."

[Kenzan]

I recommend Jiffy pop for this one folks.
:D

[katanakid]

and this coming from someone who claims to live life by the code.

The code (http://katanakid.blogspot.com/2007/12/code_02.html)


Bushidō (武 (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E6%AD%A6)士 (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%A3%AB)道 (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%81%93), Bushidō? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Japanese)), meaning "Way of the Warrior", is a Japanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) code of conduct (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct) and a way of life, loosely analogous to the European concept of chivalry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chivalry) and the Iranian concept of jawanmardi (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jawanmardi&action=edit), among others. It originates from the samurai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai) moral code and stresses frugality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frugality), loyalty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalty), martial arts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_arts) mastery and honour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour) unto death. Bushidō developed between the 9th to 12th centuries as set forth by numerous translated documents dating from the 12th to 16th centuries (as mentioned below). However, some dependable sources also state the document might have been formulated in the 17th century.
According to the Japanese dictionary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_dictionary) Shogakukan Kokugo Daijiten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon_kokugo_daijiten), "Bushidō is defined as a unique philosophy (ronri) that spread through the warrior class from the Muromachi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muromachi) (chusei) period." Nitobe Inazō (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitobe_Inaz%C5%8D), in his book Bushidō: The Soul of Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushido:_The_Soul_of_Japan), described it in this way. "...Bushidō, then, is the code of moral principles which the samurai were required or instructed to observe... More frequently it is a code unuttered and unwritten... It was an organic growth of decades and centuries of military career."

actually if you took the time to read what i said iam TRYING to live by the code

[ccheck5]

not trying very hard now are you

[katanakid]

thats because i am practicing small men strikes on a dummy with your name tacked to it while i am doing this too

[ccheck5]

wow isnt that mature. you can hit men all by your self?

[katanakid]

wow isnt that mature. you can hit men all by your self?

see now your not trying very hard :bored: come on son you can do better

[ccheck5]

looks like you will never learn. dont call me son, you have no right

[katanakid]

He's 18. I wish I was eighteen again. I don't think he needs to be sensitive about his age. Maybe when your little nuts drop you'll understand.

well it's been fun but i'm off to sami80's sisters house to show her what hangin nuts look like
and by the way ccheck5 you should get so upset "kid" (see prev post by ccheck5)

[Neil Gendzwill]

And that's enough of that. A little advice for both of you - you should post like your sensei is watching over your shoulder, because for all you know, he may well be.