Shinai swords

[Draconis Topmen]

Hi
New here
I was wodering if any one knows how to make a Shinai sword?:alien:

Thanks
Draconis Topmen

[ShinKenshi]

Hi
New here
I was wodering if any one knows how to make a Shinai sword?:alien:

Thanks
Draconis TopmenAny particular reason you want to know? There was a link posted some time ago that has a video that follows a shinai-maker (http://sc-smn.jst.go.jp/8/bangumi.asp?i_series_code=B070601&i_renban_code=237) and summarized the process.

[ghostdancer]

considering that Shinai need to be a specific weight and size, and that have to be safe to use on your opponent its far cheaper and safer to buy them
prehaps your dojo will be able to advise you further on this

[turboyoshi]

You mean like this (http://www.e-bogu.com/photos/HAY-KEN-SHI-OWARI-37-2T.jpg)?

I'm not sure why you would bother, but I'll bet it's not easy unless you have patience and bamboo skills.

sean

[JoDuncan]

Hi
New here
I was wodering if any one knows how to make a Shinai sword?:alien:

Thanks
Draconis Topmen

You buy the parts and then put them together. Easy peasy.

Or...

You buy one, disassemble for the pre-kendo clean, shave and lube; then re-assemble and tell people you made it.

You have been blessed with a fairly bad-ass name there Draconis.. if that IS your real name...

[Draconis Topmen]

well i have two names one my parents gave me is Christian the one i maid is Draconis
Also i pefer people calling me Draconis.

[Kaoru]

well i have two names one my parents gave me is Christian the one i maid is Draconis
Also i pefer people calling me Draconis.

If you haven't joined a dojo yet, can I interest you in joining one?

We can help you find a good dojo if you really want to learn proper kendo. :) Btw, we don't use shinai that is in the shape of a real sword, if that's what you meant...

Kaoru

[Draconis Topmen]

Thanks but no thanks.

[ShinKenshi]

You still haven't answered my question. Is there any particular reason you're asking about this? What do you intend to do with it?

[ghostdancer]

Why? not interested in kendo or other JSA?

[Berserker]

Thanks but no thanks.

Hey Draconis, if you don't mind me asking why do you want a shinai sword if you aren't interested in a dojo? Do you already have a dojo?? :confused:
The reason why I'm asking is that you must be carefull with wat you do with a shinai since it is made for a specific reason... And the ones you find at shops (like e-bogu) are all made to the highest quality!

Hope it helps

Cheers:)

[Big One]

If you search the archive, you can see those UK guy making it very nice except it doesn't vibrate.

[Draconis Topmen]

ShinKenshi: no reason i was just wondering ghostdancer: im just not really interested. im trying to find my own way of Sword fighting. same awnser to Berserker.

[ghostdancer]

ShinKenshi: no reason i was just wondering ghostdancer: im just not really interested. im trying to find my own way of Sword fighting. same awnser to Berserker.

probably the incorrect answer in this forum
most members of this forum tend to be fairly serious about their art here!

thats all byeeee

neil you wanna save some time and move this straight to flames cos it might be heading that way!

[samurai80]

Spring break is here! The "style-makers" have been flocking to KW like it was Cancun. Oh man, this is gonna be great...

[Draconis Topmen]

I know ghostdancer.
Its just i dont really want to be taught now but maby at some point i would but now i just want to find my own skill.

[ghostdancer]

would suggest that you peruse the flames section to find some kindred souls

[Draconis Topmen]

ok
Were is the flames section?

[Big One]

By this rate, I have to start practicing Yoga to control my temper.

Hummmmmmmmmm, Huuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ne0r]

I'd advise you to just try kendo or something similar before you try to make your own style...

Kendo really is fun and so much more practical than a self-made style.

[Draconis Topmen]

Ok ill take a look at it thanks

[Kenzan]

Ok ill take a look at it thanks

Just for your benefit, crafting your own Shinai from scratch is a fairly specialized skill and not generally performed by average practitioners of sword arts.

My advise would be to purchase an inexpensive Shinai for around $10.00 from a local Anime shop.

[Kaoru]

Thanks but no thanks.

Why not? :confused:


ShinKenshi: no reason i was just wondering ghostdancer: im just not really interested. im trying to find my own way of Sword fighting. same awnser to Berserker.

You won't be sword fighting. It's just a waving a stick around if you don't learn the real thing in a dojo.


I know ghostdancer.
Its just i dont really want to be taught now but maby at some point i would but now i just want to find my own skill.

You actually can't "find" skill. And, you won't gain any skill at all, without proper instruction in a real dojo from a qualified kendo sensei.

You'll still just be playing at the end of the day, not learning anything of value at all. You really cannot teach yourself. :)


Ok ill take a look at it thanks

Well, just how serious are you at wanting to learn kendo?

See, it's ok to play in your back yard as long as you are not hitting people with that shinai, and not making up your own style and calling it a real sword art. And, it's ok as long as you are NOT going to pick up a real sword and play around with that as well. Those things can cut your fingers off or even kill you. They are 3 foot razor blades, so don't even consider that please.

So, it's ok to pretend and all that, if you aren't serious and just want to mess about with a safe thing like a shinai by yourself. Seriously though, shinai can be potentially dangerous if you hit others with it and don't know what you are even doing. And trust me, because you never set foot in a dojo, you will not know what you are doing. So, you need to be responsible with it, if you don't intend on getting proper instruction.

However... If you really are interested into looking into it, you need help. You want an AUSKF(All US Kendo Federation) affiliated dojo.

So, if you give me your state and location(City/town), I can help you find one, if you really are interested.

Just to warn you... I wouldn't be posting anything about your backyard activities with the shinai here, if you choose to just play around for fun. You'll get creamed by the guys if you do. :) And, never post that stuff on youtube unless you want to be laughed at and have it posted here for our amusement. :)

Hope this helps! Please let me know if I can help you with a dojo.

Kaoru

[samurai80]

No, please post it on youtube.

[yohed55]

Once it gets warm out all these threads start popping up and people make more goofy youtube videos. I can't wait!

:laugh:

[Kaoru]

You guys are mean... :( I was trying to save him from complete embarrassment! (Not to say that I wouldn't be one of those who watched it out of morbid curiosity... :D Gosh, that's so mean... :( )

Kaoru

[ne0r]

He doesn't look like he'll take your advice; don't be upset if he'll reject it.

[Jiyoui]

There's a certain mentality associated with the idea of finding your own style.
The only plausible situation where one should consider making one's own style is after mastering other style associated with the art in which you are trying to redefine.
What is the point of inventing a new style of sword fighting when you do not understand how other sword style fight.

Case and point, learn the existing sword arts first before considering expanding on hundreds of years practiced and perfected styles.

(Referring not just to you Darconis, but to anyone else that may read this in the future.)

[Kaoru]

He doesn't look like he'll take your advice; don't be upset if he'll reject it.

I know... and I won't. :) But Kendo is so much fun to learn, so how could anyone resist it??

Kaoru

[Anonymous]

My advise would be to purchase an inexpensive Shinai for around $10.00 from a local Anime shop.


I saw Suncoast selling really horrible shinai in the back of the store where they keep the anime...

[Kaoru]

I saw Suncoast selling really horrible shinai in the back of the store where they keep the anime...

At Suncoast?? You're kidding... That is so strange!!

Kaoru

[Anonymous]

At Suncoast?? You're kidding... That is so strange!!

Kaoru


I'm serious, they were either $10 or $20, and I noticed a sticker on em saying that they're not meant for hitting anything. Next time I go there I'll take a picture if they've got em in stock. They had some really funky plastic bokken too.

[Draconis Topmen]

Kaoru: i will think about it.

[Berserker]

Kaoru: i will think about it.

Please do, it's not a desition you will regret... Build up some experience and then see where life takes you... But please be carefull with a self made shinai... Cheers :)

[Draconis Topmen]

Like i said, i will think about it. it sounds fun.

[Tatsumaki]

The shinai at Suncoast even come packed with a desiccant. The one I looked at was also all shredded up in it's plastic wrap. Fantastic quality really.

[Kaoru]

I'm serious, they were either $10 or $20, and I noticed a sticker on em saying that they're not meant for hitting anything. Next time I go there I'll take a picture if they've got em in stock. They had some really funky plastic bokken too.

Cool... I wouldn't mind seeing that! :D At least they had the good sense to put a warning sticker on them saying they aren't to be used for hitting anything! And plastic bokken?? Never even heard of that! hahaha...

Now, I'd like to see such a sticker put on those wallhangers in huge print that can't be missed! And oh, they'd also need to put a warning on them that swords can cut off fingers or kill and a reminder that it's a 3 foot razor blade that isn't a toy. :D

Kaoru

[Kaoru]

Kaoru: i will think about it.

Well, can you do more than think about it? Please? Honestly, it's fun and really good exercise and you'd learn the etiquette involved in a JSA. Seriously, it's much better than playing in the backyard. You can't get anywhere doing that... :)

Gosh, you are so missing out!! If you were near, I'd be dragging you to the dojo just to get you to try it.
I can promise you wouldn't regret it. :D And, why make it up, when you can learn the real thing? And remember, safety comes first! And, to practice in a dojo helps with that. :)

Oh, and if you want, I can try to find a Koryu for you, like Iaido. Kenjutsu is very rare and unlikely, depending on your location. You could visit a dojo and see if that interested you as well, if one is within reach of you. :) I think you might be surprised at the difference between making up stuff and doing the real thing.

And, if you decide to not go to a dojo, please at least promise me you'll stay away from real swords. I just want to make sure you stay safe, ok? But, I'd love to talk you into visiting a dojo at least, to see if you'd like it.

Kaoru

[Kaoru]

The shinai at Suncoast even come packed with a desiccant. The one I looked at was also all shredded up in it's plastic wrap. Fantastic quality really.

I'm really confused... First you say the shinai was all shredded up in the plastic, and then you say it was fantastic quality. That was supposed to be a joke right? :confused: Because, I'd have to ask you if you were doing ok if you weren't joking... :D

Sorry, I don't often get jokes... :ko:

Kaoru

[Tatsumaki]

Sorry, I was just being sarcastic. They are garbage.. I thought the one I saw was 49.99 also, so anyone buying it is getting ripped off from every angle.

[Kaoru]

Sorry, I was just being sarcastic. They are garbage.. I thought the one I saw was 49.99 also, so anyone buying it is getting ripped off from every angle.

Oh, that's ok. I'm just stupid when it comes to understanding jokes, hehehe! I can't even tell one. :ko:

Anyway, $49.99?? Geez, what a rip-off! They aren't even hand-made... That's so wrong to charge so much for crap shinai. Well, that's stuff they shouldn't be selling in the first place, imho.

Kaoru

[Draconis Topmen]

Well, can you do more than think about it? Please? Honestly, it's fun and really good exercise and you'd learn the etiquette involved in a JSA. Seriously, it's much better than playing in the backyard. You can't get anywhere doing that... :)

Gosh, you are so missing out!! If you were near, I'd be dragging you to the dojo just to get you to try it.
I can promise you wouldn't regret it. :D And, why make it up, when you can learn the real thing? And remember, safety comes first! And, to practice in a dojo helps with that. :)

Oh, and if you want, I can try to find a Koryu for you, like Iaido. Kenjutsu is very rare and unlikely, depending on your location. You could visit a dojo and see if that interested you as well, if one is within reach of you. :) I think you might be surprised at the difference between making up stuff and doing the real thing.

And, if you decide to not go to a dojo, please at least promise me you'll stay away from real swords. I just want to make sure you stay safe, ok? But, I'd love to talk you into visiting a dojo at least, to see if you'd like it.

Kaoru

Maby i will join once i move i dont really have alot of time since im trying to move From the Poconos PA to Ashland OR:alien:

[Big One]

Maby i will join once i move i dont really have alot of time since im trying to move From the Poconos PA to Ashland OR:alien:


And then you have time to create your own style swordmanship

[Draconis Topmen]

Yeah
Ill see if there is a dojo near were im moving.

[Paikea]

Yeah
Ill see if there is a dojo near were im moving.Sorry, but that's going to be a "no" for Kendo, I'm afraid. Eugene is the closest opportunity to Ashland.

[Berserker]

Well, can you do more than think about it? Please? Honestly, it's fun and really good exercise and you'd learn the etiquette involved in a JSA. Seriously, it's much better than playing in the backyard. You can't get anywhere doing that... :)

Gosh, you are so missing out!! If you were near, I'd be dragging you to the dojo just to get you to try it.
I can promise you wouldn't regret it. :D And, why make it up, when you can learn the real thing? And remember, safety comes first! And, to practice in a dojo helps with that. :)

Oh, and if you want, I can try to find a Koryu for you, like Iaido. Kenjutsu is very rare and unlikely, depending on your location. You could visit a dojo and see if that interested you as well, if one is within reach of you. :) I think you might be surprised at the difference between making up stuff and doing the real thing.

And, if you decide to not go to a dojo, please at least promise me you'll stay away from real swords. I just want to make sure you stay safe, ok? But, I'd love to talk you into visiting a dojo at least, to see if you'd like it.

Kaoru


+rep for being persistent...

[ShinaiShonen]

I have to agree with Kaoru. I've just recently started learning kendo, and I must admit it's different from the "backyard swordplay," but the underlying concepts are all still there. Techniques such as striking, blocking, parrying, footwork, and state-of-mind have all been practiced and perfected by kenshis for hundreds of years. Why create a style when you can adopt one and use it as a foundation for developing your own?

I used to spar with friends who were involved in European reenactment fighting (aka Renaissance Fairs and SCA), but it just didn't fit with me. I was seeking an art that emphasized courtesy, form, and efficiency in sword-work. I found European fencing to be very gratifying. Further pursuing my fanaticism, I finally decided to find and visit a dojo. Now, I can't seem to part from my shinai (there's always a few in the car), and I always catch myself subconsciously doing exercises and counting in Japanese...

But...back to the shinai sword, there's one on e-bogu that's specially crafted to have a curve like a real katana.

[Kaoru]

Hello!

Welcome to the forum! :)


I have to agree with Kaoru. I've just recently started learning kendo, and I must admit it's different from the "backyard swordplay," but the underlying concepts are all still there. Techniques such as striking, blocking, parrying, footwork, and state-of-mind have all been practiced and perfected by kenshis for hundreds of years. Why create a style when you can adopt one and use it as a foundation for developing your own?


I just want to be VERY clear. In no way would I ever suggest this. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't say this in my post. :)

Making up your own style is not the best idea to me, really. Unless you are a hachidan or somebody that has trained legitimately in a sword art for MANY years seriously. But, that is very unlikely to happen today since these arts cannot be tested on the battlefield art nowadays. I can think of only a VERY small few high ranking people who have done so successfully after the demise of the samurai.

So, I think to encourage some kid or adult to do so is sending them in the wrong direction. Sending them to a proper dojo is the only thing a person should do, imho.

Not to say they can't just have fun as long as they aren't doing something stupid like using a real sword by themselves or with others or a bokken to hit others with. I don't even think hitting others with a shinai is a good idea by backyard people. I just don't agree with that, is all. :) I just think it's better to learn the real deal instead of pretending.

Now that I've clarified that, I'll shut up now. :D

I used to spar with friends who were involved in European reenactment fighting (aka Renaissance Fairs and SCA), but it just didn't fit with me. I was seeking an art that emphasized courtesy, form, and efficiency in sword-work. I found European fencing to be very gratifying. Further pursuing my fanaticism, I finally decided to find and visit a dojo. Now, I can't seem to part from my shinai (there's always a few in the car), and I always catch myself subconsciously doing exercises and counting in Japanese...Hey, so you know, you really ought not to keep them in the car like that. Cali is extremely dry, warm most of the time and incredibly sunny, meaning you could really ruin them by leaving them in a hot dry car, making them unsafe for hitting other people. If I was the sensei in charge, and I found out you were doing that, I'd tell you not to do that, and get a bag for them and bring them into the house and leave them there when you are not at the dojo. You need to take care of your equipment so they remain safe for practice. If they dried out too much, and you hit someone and it splintered, you could really hurt someone.

Now, if you feel you absolutely HAVE to keep a shinai in the car, you should buy one for just that purpose and never keep the shinai you use in the dojo in the car, and take those to practice, but not the one you leave in the car.

Well I just thought you should know that. I used to live in Cali so I know about the weather there quite well.
(And if I was rich, I'd move back there in two shakes of a lamb's tail! Houses there still cost a fortune even though the market is down. I just recently checked for fun because I was bored one night.)



But...back to the shinai sword, there's one on e-bogu that's specially crafted to have a curve like a real katana.They actually have one?? You mean one made out of bamboo? I wonder what on earth it's for... We probably wouldn't be allowed to use it in the dojo as far as I know. I can't imagine it not breaking upon striking men, doh or kote. Somebody in Cali(And I mean a trained kendoka!) should buy one and try it and tell us what it does. I'd be interested to know! :)

Kaoru

[Jiyoui]

tada!
http://www.e-bogu.com/Madake_OWARI_Sword_Shape_Shinai_p/hay-ken-shi-owari-37.htm

[Draconis Topmen]

Thank you Jiyoui

[samurai80]

tada!
http://www.e-bogu.com/Madake_OWARI_Sword_Shape_Shinai_p/hay-ken-shi-owari-37.htm

Interesting. Ariga sensei uses one. I'm tempted to try it, based upon his comments.

[Berserker]

Interesting. Ariga sensei uses one. I'm tempted to try it, based upon his comments.

Im also tempted... Does look interesting enough! If you get one let me know what it's like... :D

[bobdonny]

nah forget it.. id need to buy a new bag :laugh:

[Kagerou]

nah forget it.. id need to buy a new bag :laugh:

And imagine the embarassment upon pulling it out.

"dude your stick is curved" :eek:

[1speed]

Yamamoto Sensei from San Diego Kendo Bu had one, and he really liked it. He said that it ffocuseed his attention to maai.

[absenteekendoka]

And imagine the embarassment upon pulling it out.

"dude your stick is curved" :eek:

Sounds an awful lot like a lot of my first dates..... ;)

Seriously though, shinais are sort ofsubjective to the kendoka using them. You can use any shinai you have in your hands, yet me I prefer Dobari with a nice fat handle.....

[Shinsengumi77]

ShinKenshi: no reason i was just wondering ghostdancer: im just not really interested. im trying to find my own way of Sword fighting. same awnser to Berserker.

So...how old are you, exactly? And do you have any experience with martial arts? People who create styles are very experienced. They use what they know, take away ineffective techniques, and add effective ones. If you're just gonna swing around a sword and call it a style...meh.

[Kaoru]

So...how old are you, exactly? And do you have any experience with martial arts? People who create styles are very experienced. They use what they know, take away ineffective techniques, and add effective ones. If you're just gonna swing around a sword and call it a style...meh.

The thing is, nobody today can test to see what strikes are effective or not, because the samurai don't exist anymore, and so there are no more fights or battles in which to test them in. So, creating a new JSA style is silly really. And, if one isn't highly trained in a legitimate JSA ryu, they couldn't develop one anyway even if they wanted to. The so-called "style" then would be fake.

I'm sure he's pretty young... :) I already offered him help in finding a real dojo and he was silly enough to turn it down. Sigh... Maybe someday he'll want to try the real deal out when he's older. :)

Kaoru

[Lady_Kitsune]

That will be too late, he will be so use to his own style of backyard samurai that he won't be able to learn JSA properly, he will have troubles with the footwork, the movements, the strikes and most of it probable he will hurt someone's head cos he will hit like it was a Connan the Barbarian's sword.

Saw that too many, many times and it's sooo sad but sooo true. With time they just quit cos they can't keep up with the managing of the real thing and they felt so frustrated that they just throw everything away and never came back again.


If he really wants to try a real JSA whatever it is, the time is now when he's not yet started with this stupidity of trying to do "his own thing" on his backyard.

[Shinsengumi77]

The thing is, nobody today can test to see what strikes are effective or not, because the samurai don't exist anymore, and so there are no more fights or battles in which to test them in. So, creating a new JSA style is silly really. And, if one isn't highly trained in a legitimate JSA ryu, they couldn't develop one anyway even if they wanted to. The so-called "style" then would be fake.

I'm sure he's pretty young... :) I already offered him help in finding a real dojo and he was silly enough to turn it down. Sigh... Maybe someday he'll want to try the real deal out when he's older. :)

Kaoru

That's true. I guess this only applies to unarmed martial arts nowadays (I was using Bruce Lee's ideal style, Jeet Kune Do -derived from wing chun kung fu, boxing and such- to explain the experience required to actually create a new art). I agree with what you said. It's regrettable that he wouldn't take you up on your offer, but maybe someday he'll come around. We can only hope. Being a backyard samurai is fine for youtube, but I find it hard to believe it could be as fulfilling as a real JSA or MA.

[Anonymous]

That's true. I guess this only applies to unarmed martial arts nowadays (I was using Bruce Lee's ideal style, Jeet Kune Do -derived from wing chun kung fu, boxing and such- to explain the experience required to actually create a new art). I agree with what you said. It's regrettable that he wouldn't take you up on your offer, but maybe someday he'll come around. We can only hope. Being a backyard samurai is fine for youtube, but I find it hard to believe it could be as fulfilling as a real JSA or MA.

JKD is not a martial art, its a philosophy, and one that is basically a ripoff of ideas that have been around for thousands of years, its nothing new. What you're thinking of is Jun Fan boxing.

[Shinsengumi77]

JKD is not a martial art, its a philosophy, and one that is basically a ripoff of ideas that have been around for thousands of years, its nothing new. What you're thinking of is Jun Fan boxing.

Note: That's why I said it was an "Ideal" style. I know it's not an art. Before starting Kendo, I had long since been practicing Wing Chun. As WC was a major component in Bruce Lee's theories on combat, I made sure to look into his works thoroughly. And It is most likely the case that I know what I'm thinking better than you would, but thanks for suggesting otherwise. And call it what you will, though I would hardly say it is a 'ripoff'.

[Anonymous]

Note: That's why I said it was an "Ideal" style. I know it's not an art. Before starting Kendo, I had long since been practicing Wing Chun. As WC was a major component in Bruce Lee's theories on combat, I made sure to look into his works thoroughly. And It is most likely the case that I know what I'm thinking better than you would, but thanks for suggesting otherwise. And call it what you will, though I would hardly say it is a 'ripoff'.


Believe it or not, this anon has had quite a bit of prior experience with CMA.

[mononokifool]

Believe it or not, this anon has had quite a bit of prior experience with CMA.
http://www.cmalliance.org/ this???:silly:

[Anonymous]

http://www.cmalliance.org/ this???:silly:

i lol'd :p

[Draconis Topmen]

Shinsengumi77 I am 14 and also im more into medievil warfare then joining a Dojo ilso i kinda lost the insperation to join a Dojo. Insted im moveing twards more natural teachings such as Native Amercan teachings.

[ShinKenshi]

...i kinda lost the insperation to join a Dojo. Insted im moveing twards more natural teachings such as Native Amercan teachings.What does joining a dojo and practicing martial arts have to do with Native American teachings? A bit of a non sequitur if you ask me.

[Draconis Topmen]

I have manny diffrent intresses and they come and go.

[mononokifool]

I have manny diffrent intresses and they come and go.
the techniques used in kendo are hundreds of years old so im not sure by what you mean natural?

[verissimus]

I have manny diffrent intresses and they come and go.

Could you at least check your spelling? Not being a smartass here - it simply improves readability.

[Anonymous]

Shinsengumi77 I am 14 and also im more into medievil warfare then joining a Dojo ilso i kinda lost the insperation to join a Dojo. Insted im moveing twards more natural teachings such as Native Amercan teachings.



What exactly do you mean by more natural? Also, if you can't stick with one thing for any decent length of time, you'll just suck at a lot of different things.

[Lady_Kitsune]

For a 14 year old, that means no discipline and no one telling you how to do it right.

[yoda-waza]

I have manny diffrent intresses and they come and go.
Ahhh! You're forgiven then. Attention Deficit Disorder is a bummer. Seek help. Hopefully without drugs or your spelling will be beyond comprehension.

[Draconis Topmen]

Lady_Kitsune Bleve me i have discipline...
Also this is good bye for now every one i got the awnsers i need and thats it good bye.

[Lady_Kitsune]

Yeah, whatever. Good bye and good luck.

[mononokifool]

Lady_Kitsune Bleve me i have discipline...
Also this is good bye for now every one i got the awnsers i need and thats it good bye.
thats too bad. make sure you upload some videos on youtube.

[Anonymous]

thats too bad. make sure you upload some videos on youtube.

This. I also wish to see what kind of yard'tard we may have spawned.

[absenteekendoka]

This. I also wish to see what kind of yard'tard we may have spawned.

"......Its Alive....Itssss Alivvvvee!!!!!!!!" :)

[absenteekendoka]

Ah Youtube, now with 29% more ninja goodness!

[pgsmith]

I have manny diffrent intresses and they come and go.
How about showing more "intresses" in your English class so you'll learn how to write properly?

Sheesh, kids today! :D

[absenteekendoka]

How about showing more "intresses" in your English class so you'll learn how to write properly?

Sheesh, kids today! :D

"...what, my English isn't good....thats unpossible!" :)

[Draconis Topmen]

Dont believe me Kitsune? Fine you dont need to...

[ghostdancer]

bored are we?
come to wind up the old farts again ?

and its good bye from him yet again

[Berserker]

bored are we?
come to wind up the old farts again ?

and its good bye from him yet again

We will never get rid of him...

He is busy stealing the info here so that he can go create his own sword art... IMO, he is 14...
He is like a VD, everybody has seen it, but nobody wants to have contact with it... :D

[Draconis Topmen]

Im not stealing the info here Berserker...

[Berserker]

No, but you are acting like a kid...

The people here offer to help you find a legitimate dojo but you refuse... Yet, you still come to post on the forum... ... Why?? To aggitate people or to come and tell us you are busy creating your own style?

I don't want to be rude, but this is a martial arts forum dedicated to kendo, iaido, naginata and jodo... Please feel free to post questions related to these martial arts...


Thanks

[Draconis Topmen]

I wasnt refuseing the offers its just i dont have time right now.

[Paikea]

Perhaps a good time to close this thread?