bowing

[decembersnow6]

when you first bow to your opponent in a shiai, what do you say? i heard people said some japanese which i cannot understand.... i usually just bow without saying anything but this seems rude, any help on this would be appreciated

thanx

[goshawk]

i've heard that you are not saying anything in shiai, just bow...but do have to say onigaishimashu(i'm just spelling that...) in during training though

[Neil Gendzwill]

In shiai, say nothing. For everyday practice, say oneigashimasu, which roughly translated means "please teach me".

[decembersnow6]

is that the only thing you can say? i have heard people said different things.....

[midnightdawn]

Can you give an example of something else you've heard? Even if you don't spell it right, like just basic phonetics of the word.

All I've heard is Onegaishimasu. (I am like 95% sure that is the correct spelling of the word :silly: )

[Yowai]

is that the only thing you can say? i have heard people said different things.....

Something like "Buchikorosuzo teme~"?
Or "Bokobokonisuruzo"?

[decembersnow6]

also, what do you say when you first enter the dojo?

[wingdelta]

You don't have to say anything while entering the dojo... at least I don't think so... unless I've been doing it wrong for a year. Bow when entering and bow when leaving.

[Lill Murveln]

Something like "Buchikorosuzo teme~"?
Or "Bokobokonisuruzo"?

Ha ha!!
I will definetly use the "Buchikorosuzo teme" next time I meet a 8dan sensei.
I guess I wont live to tell you all about it though...

[Neil Gendzwill]

also, what do you say when you first enter the dojo?
You don't have to say anything. If you want to say hello, try "ohayo" (morning), "gombawa" (evening) or "konichiwa" (anytime).

[midnightdawn]

Ha ha!!
I will definetly use the "Buchikorosuzo teme" next time I meet a 8dan sensei.
I guess I wont live to tell you all about it though...

What does that phrase mean?

[A P]

If I say "Eseihi " when I bow to my opponent, does it meaning change or

would not be making sense at all.?????

[goshawk]

um, just addon, ahlegadogozaimasu ....(man, i spell crap :p, just "thank you") after training to someone

[Craig Jones]

also, what do you say when you first enter the dojo?

at our dojo most of us say 'onegaishimasu' when bowing when we enter the dojo and say 'arigato gozaimashita' when bowing on leaving the dojo. Kind of a way to ask dojo, the shomen, and all people at practice to help teach us, practice with us, help us learn and to thank them for the same reason afterwards. When doing this some of us do not verbalize anything, just think these things. Helps us set our minds on the task at hand and to be aware that kendo practice starts at the moment we enter the dojo. The dojo is a sacred place to a kendoka and this is one way we try to show that.

[midnightdawn]

I think what everybody's reply in this thread suggest is that things are done differently at every dojo. If you don't understand what is said, just ask your sensei, or one of your senpais. They will (or should) be more than happy to explain it to you. That is how I learned exactly what onegaishimasu meant.

[Hyaku]

Its very simple.

Entering you dojo you shout ?????????mas..... (masu for ladies).

On the bow to sensei you say ?????????mas.....

finishing you bow and say ???????????mas....

Leaving you shout ????????????mas......

Hyaku

[decembersnow6]

oh, i think my sempais says "shimasen" or "shimasu"???? what does it mean???

[kendomushi]

Entering: Ohayou gozaimasu (no matter the actual time of day)

Start Keiko: Onegaishimasu

End Keiko: Arigato gozaimashita

Shiai: remain silent

Leaving: Arigato gozaimashita

[xvikingx]

oh, i think my sempais says "shimasen" or "shimasu"???? what does it mean???

"shimasen" is to not do. "shimasu" is to do. You shouldn't worry about that anyway. When you want to practice with someone say "onegai shimasu", and when you are finished say "arigatou gozaimasu". Other than that there is no need to really speak Japanese in the dojo unless you are in Japan. I don't understand what is with the excessive amount of unecessary Japanese being used at dojos. When you enter try saying "Hello" and when leaving maybe you could try "Goodbye". What a novel idea. To me this is just the same thing as people putting their in kanji on their tare. You shouldn't throw words like senpai around if you don't understand the meaning behind it.

[Miravil]

I think the sensei will understand that we can't speak Japanese language and they may give it an exceptional case.

However, just remember few important thing:

Please advise/teach - Onegaishimasu
Thank you - Arigato gozaimashita
Sorry - Gomenasai / sumimasen
Yes, sensei - Hai, sensei

For the rest such as 'hello', 'goodbye' and 'goodnight', I'm sure the sensei will understand us if we say it in English. I do that all the time to my sensei.

Hope this help.... :cool2:

[Eldritch Knight]

When leaving the dojo, we usually say "o-tsukare-sama deshita" (it was a good workout). When entering, anything is fine, but we'd usually use "konnichiwa" (in the afternoon) or "ohayo gozaimasu" (in the morning). Keep in mind that I trained in a Japanese dojo, so English was basically disallowed.

[Kanau]

Wow... so formal, of course, since i'm not starting kendo yet, I don't know how formal everyone is.


Please advise/teach - Onegaishimasu
Thank you - Arigato gozaimashita
Sorry - Gomenasai / sumimasen
Yes, sensei - Hai, sensei

[Paikea]

Wow... so formal, of course, since i'm not starting kendo yet, I don't know how formal everyone is.By American standards, very formal.

[Kanau]

By American standards, very formal.
*shudder* Wow. By American terms, I'm REALLY over-affectionate to... everyone.... *deep breath* I CAN DO IT!!! I CAN FIND THE INNER FORMALNESS!!! :nervous: who am I kidding? lol. *Goes to hug her widdle brother* Kawai!

[ShinKenshi]

Something like "Buchikorosuzo teme~"?
Or "Bokobokonisuruzo"? Oh boy. Somebody's got an attitude in your dojo. That first one basically means, "I'm gonna kill you, b******!" and I'm a little hazy on the second.