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Andoy
6th November 2003, 01:56 PM
One question, is there an online resource of several method's of tying the tenegui. Also, i'm looking for a method that covers your whole head including your ears. The way I tie mine is that the ears aren't covered and a bit of hair can be seen at the bottom part.

Catherine
6th November 2003, 02:17 PM
Hi Andoy,

I am not sure about sites demonstrating how to fold a tenugui.

However, I have some feedback on the method of tenugui folding you are describing where your ears and the back of your neck is covered. In that case I think that it is the method where the tenugui is folded into a little hat that is slipped onto your head.

When I was at summer camp in Kitamoto a couple of years ago, one of the sensei mentioned that the 'hat' method is only really for young children and that adults should not use the 'hat' method.

I hope that helps. Though I am not really sure why you want to change the way you tie your tenugui.

Regards,

Catherine

Andoy
7th November 2003, 01:35 PM
When I was at summer camp in Kitamoto a couple of years ago, one of the sensei mentioned that the 'hat' method is only really for young children and that adults should not use the 'hat' method.


Oh no, I know about the 'hat' method but that's not the method i want to use. This other method covers the ear and the back of the neck as well but i notice more that older sensei use this method. I really wish there was a picture site. :ermm:

kendotamashi
8th November 2003, 06:37 AM
Oh no, I know about the 'hat' method but that's not the method i want to use. This other method covers the ear and the back of the neck as well but i notice more that older sensei use this method. I really wish there was a picture site. :ermm:


Hi Andoy

There is a book called{ Kendo the definitive guide} by Hiroshi Ozawa that has 2
ways of folding your tenugui and lots of other good info. :cool:

Kendo Tamashi

Hai_hai
8th November 2003, 06:45 AM
Oh no, I know about the 'hat' method but that's not the method i want to use. This other method covers the ear and the back of the neck as well but i notice more that older sensei use this method. I really wish there was a picture site. :ermm:

Why don't you ask those people?

akacz
19th November 2003, 12:48 AM
hmmm... I know another way to tie your tenegui. Its realy strange and you should have bigger tenegui to tie it that way. Maybe you are thinking of this one. Contact me and i'll send you picture akacz@poczta.fm

Yowai
19th November 2003, 03:16 AM
Why don't you ask those people?

No shit! Why is it that beginners have the incentive to post every little stupid question they have that can easily be answered by their dojomates.

For crying out loud, which side of the shinai is the blade? What the hell?

PhilMcLaughlin
19th November 2003, 08:38 AM
No shit! Why is it that beginners have the incentive to post every little stupid question they have that can easily be answered by their dojomates.

For crying out loud, which side of the shinai is the blade? What the hell?


Probably because being beginners they dont know whether they can or not & dont want to be or appear to be rude - therefre this is a good place to ask

Of course concerns over downright bloody rudeness doesnt seem to interfere with your own perception of your own (obviously great) experience and wisdom

oh and in case you forgot you didnt answer the question either - unlike other posters who do give a damn

actually come to think of it i havent seen a single constructive post from you ever

are you sure you have ever actually done kendo ?

Yowai
19th November 2003, 10:28 AM
actually come to think of it i havent seen a single constructive post from you ever

are you sure you have ever actually done kendo ?

Are you sure that you can read?


Probably because being beginners they dont know whether they can or not & dont want to be or appear to be rude - therefre this is a good place to ask

You didn't notice the unexceptional thread that was magically stickied on this forum?

Actually, nevermind the uncertainty. You're illiterate.
Oh and in case you forgot, your post didn't answer the question either.

olaf
19th November 2003, 11:00 AM
Gosh folks...put out the flames a bit, why don't we.

In answering the original question about tenegui...: I have attached a small (100 KB) PDF file illustrating (with pics, of course) the 3 conventional ways people tie their tenegui: the "hat", the wrap-around, and the way whereby you "bite" the tenegui first.

Hope that helps!

The excerpt, in case you are interested, came from a kendo equipment manual assembled, I believe, by a Canadian dojo. If anyone wants to see the full manual (1.5 MB PDF), I can try posting it up on another thread for sharing!

tanueirin
19th November 2003, 12:57 PM
The excerpt, in case you are interested, came from a kendo equipment manual assembled, I believe, by a Canadian dojo.

Just to give credit where credit is due, the manual was written and illustrated by Yasuji Ishiwata, and the original site is http://www6.big.or.jp/~budogu/book.html

From this page you can choose to view the original Japanese, or the English and French versions.

stephkendo
20th November 2003, 06:23 AM
WOW,Go PHIL!!(but u shouldnt b wasting time arguing on this-you know,much more useful things 2 b typing ;) )

I do agree though,we've all struggled with a tenegui,and like when teaching urself or being taught it took patience,so show some!

Now in answering the question,if my memory serves me right Ross McFarlane has a wee kinda hat tenegui thing which may b of more use if you really struggle with the standard ones.Maybe it wasnt Ross?It was someone at the British Open anyway-yeah Ross im sure!

Otherwise,all it takes is practice-watch the different ways of doing it and try them all!And ASK!!!Thats the only way to learn!

Take care

Steph
~x~X~x~

olaf
20th November 2003, 12:53 PM
Yes, as stephkendo suggests, tenegui size does matter somewhat.

For instance if you want to tie it the really elaborate way involving biting it in place first, etc. you need a fairly large tenegui (there really is no 'standard' size), or a reall small head (!)

The good thing about the "hat" method for beginners is that it'll generally fit regardless of head and tenegui size.

LNGUYEN
20th November 2003, 10:21 PM
Yowai is rude but sometimes he make a point. At beginning, the Sensei always show the beginner the basic like Shinai, blade side and all the terminology. The basic foot steps, Suburi, and all. When the student is ready for bogu, the teacher will show him how to put on tenuigi, tare, do, men, and kote. If someone ask here like how to fold tenuigi or which side is the blade on the shinai then that means no body told him that include the Sensei. That means he doesn't have to know yet. If the teacher already show the student and he forgot, sure he can ask the teacher again.

moetl
24th November 2003, 09:55 PM
even before i realized that i want to practise kendo i surfed the web and came to this forum. i was really interested in some of the topics and read a lot of posts.

i think foren (don't know the english plural of forum) like this should deal with these beginner questions too! it's a huge & important knowledge base for beginners like me.

also the point that not so well trained teachers don't know everyting is true! if one isn't that fortunate and lives in a big city this can become reality...

Shinaido
24th November 2003, 11:35 PM
i think foren (don't know the english plural of forum)


The plural of forum is fora, latin style.

Jonathan

moetl
28th November 2003, 06:22 AM
The plural of forum is fora, latin style.

Jonathan

aha... and why does it read "In the Forums" at the startpage of kendo-world?

just asking... i also could ask a dictionary :p