Philosophy in a Can

[Kenzan]

Ever hear a good saying, or a quote you liked, or some phrase which you live by?
Post 'em here and let's discuss!

I'll start:

Even when exhausted he will bear a burden,
not minding heat and cold, always going along content;
these three things should be learned from the Donkey.

[verissimus]

There's no such thing as a 'good' decision or a 'bad' decision. There are decisions, and there are consequences.

[Neil Gendzwill]

"Nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the general population"

My translation: people are stupid, people are assholes. Know these two things.

[Kenzan]

The clever and the covetous are easy to deceive;
intellect is veiled by craving.

My take:
It's important to realize our own vulnerabilities when our desires may blind us to them.

[Wookiesmurf]

Regardless of how I feel about Star Wars now, I've always liked "Do or do not, there is no try."

I like what it says about the mindset you should have when undertaking an action. Also, any number of excuses doesn't change the fact that you failed to succeed.

[NoNameKleenex]

"Never fry bacon naked".

My other favourite saying or concept is what my father told me when I was a kid - basically, he was saying the right thing to do is not always the easiest, and the easiest thing to do is not always the right thing. I've always remembered that, but I think it means more to me now than back then.

[Lloromannic]

When life gives you lemons, you punch it in the fucking eye.

[pgsmith]

If you ever find yourself making an excuse, stop and figure out what you did wrong. You'll never find one without the other.

If you don't like things the way they are, change them. If you don't want to change them, learn to like things the way they are.

[Maku-san]

"Age and Cunning will ALWAYS beat Youth and Skill."

My take: Yeah, my grandson practices his Star Wars video games 24/7/365... but nobody beats a grandpa with wild-ass fingers, an extra servin' of wild-ass luck, and a good eye.

Scoreboard: Obi-Wan: 3, Bad Anakin: ZERO. :D

[DCPan]

Batman Begins: "It's not who I am underneath, but what I *do* that defines me."

Secondhand Lions: "Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things that a man needs to believe in the most: that people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that love, true love, never dies... No matter if they're true or not, a man should believe in those things because those are the things worth believing in."

[Toshiro Mifune]

For you MGS fans..

Otacon: (Chinese proverb): "Those who look to the Heavens prosper, those who defy it are no more. " Do you know this one? The meaning here is - hold on a sec - that you can only survive as long as you're a part of the natural order of things. You remember pre-ripped jeans? Manufacturers thought that just because people loved old, broken-in jeans, they would want to buy new jeans that looked old. So they purposefully...

Solid Snake: What do jeans have to do with nature and order?

[Charlie]

Here I sit, was reminded....

Oh, wait, you said IN a can, not ON the can....

[Charlie]

Secondhand Lions: "Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things that a man needs to believe in the most: that people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that love, true love, never dies... No matter if they're true or not, a man should believe in those things because those are the things worth believing in."

Damn, I gotta see this movie.

[DCPan]

Damn, I gotta see this movie.

Hey, sorry for the can of worms that's about to follow.... :D

When I had that as my sig quote when I was working at my previous job, some manager actually wrote me back and chewed me out because "Christians believe not just because they want to believe in something worthwhile, but because they believe the Bible is true."

I should have reported her to HR. I was able to find the online review that she lifted her words from a couple of years back. I couldn't believe people actually rated this movie negatively. Below link was the closest I can find now, which isn't half as negative as the review I saw from some christian website years ago.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/spiritualinsights/secondhandlions.html

[Gideon]

I prefer bottles.

[chidokan]

don't say "I wish I'd learnt to do that", but "I will start that tomorrow!" Billy Connolly in one of his more serious moments...

[1stdan]

When I was born I was given three gifts, A mind, A body and a spirit. Where I go with it from there is up to me.

This was the inspiriation for my blog. (not a shameless plug).

Also My sig line is pretty good I got it from a sensei that used to head up my dojo..... Nabeshima Sensei, it was one of his favorite quotes originally written by Yoshikawa Eiji, and a favorite of Miyamoto Musashi.

[Ookami7]

No one here is exactly what he or she appears to be! (From B-5)

Old Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times"

"Those that don`t learn from history are doomed to repeat it!"

From my sempai, Dr Roosevelt "Those that bare a sword are my brothers and sisters in arms" (slightly reworded)

[Masahiro]

God gave men a penis and a brain, but only enough blood to operate one at a time. :laugh: hahahahaha


women are men's investment, and men are women's insurance << Eric Gildea

[Kagerou]

why are you reading this?

[Fred27]

Philosophy in a Can

Beer!!! :smiley:

[shred_lord]

If you are able to walk calmly in one direction, while those about you run screaming in the other...



...you've missed something.

[misskitty]

"Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot."

[Atonito]

''Never give advice, inteligent people don't needed and stupid people won't listen to it''

[bullet08]

Beer!!! :smiley:

there has to be more to life than beer.. just that, i can't think of any right now..

pete

[bullet08]

oh.. while i was at er the other week, i found out morphine is better than beer for about 30 sec, then found out i get this rather nasty headache from morphine.. shame..

pete

[Sparv]

there has to be more to life than beer.. just that, i can't think of any right now..

There's 42.

[Fukayama]

In Labore Frvctvs

[Paburo]

"a gentleman will walk but never run."

which has two readings in my book:

1. try to avoid problems and discussions, but when confronted with an inevitable problem/situation, head it straight and solve it. dont slack or it will only grow bigger.

2. try to be nice to everyone even if theyre somewhat annoying, hurtful, insulting and overall touching your morale, but don't just ever let anyone step on you or abuse you. a good slap through the face is in order should that be the case!

"fool me once and its your fault, fool me twice and i'll beat the living sh¡t out of you!!" lol jk.

and i love the signature of one of my korean friends(girl): "if you break my heart, i'll break your nose." that's so cute.


and momma used to say... like is like a box of chocolates....... lol jk.

[Charlie]

When I had that as my sig quote when I was working at my previous job, some manager actually wrote me back and chewed me out because "Christians believe not just because they want to believe in something worthwhile, but because they believe the Bible is true."[/url]

Oh, boy, the silly debates we Christians have among ourselves. I am always reminded of C.S. Lewis, who might have said, in much more eloquent terms, "Hey, lighten up. What works for me may not work for you."

Okay, this ain't philosophy so much, but the NSC translation of Go Rin No Sho reads,

"The way of the warrior is the twofold way of the sword and the brush."

As a writer and kendo guy, that really appeals to me, but beyond that I think it means clutivate two sides of yourself, the physical and the mental, the destructive and the creative, etc.

[1stdan]

there has to be more to life than beer.. just that, i can't think of any right now..

pete

There is more than beer........ its called Single Malt Scotch! 15yrs and up please.

[jjcruiser]

Normally I would quote something from the Bible, but in keeping with the spirit of this website, I'll pick my favorite Napoleon quote:

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

[Sparv]

Oh, boy, the silly debates we Christians have among ourselves. I am always reminded of C.S. Lewis, who might have said, in much more eloquent terms, "Hey, lighten up. What works for me may not work for you.".

W. C. Fields: "A man's got to believe in something. I believe I’ll have another drink."

[Curtis]

Secondhand Lions: "Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things that a man needs to believe in the most: that people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that love, true love, never dies... No matter if they're true or not, a man should believe in those things because those are the things worth believing in."

One of my favorite movies ever.

[Neil Gendzwill]

"The giant Grof was hit in one eye by a stone, and that eye turned inward so that it looked into his mind, and he died of what he saw there." - Patricia A. McKillip, from "The Forgotten Beasts of Eld"

[Fred27]

"Trying is the first step towards failure"
/Homer Simpson

[Maku-san]

why are you reading this?


Wow, Kagerou-san.... that is most profound! :silly:

[MikeW]

"Never up.. never in"

[1stdan]

"Never up.. never in"

I think they make a pill for that now.......
My favorite quote from those commercials is

"If you have an Erec**** lasting more than four hours, seek medical help."

[Kenzan]

"If you have an Erec**** lasting more than four hours, seek medical help."

To heck with that noise. If that ever happens to me, I'm seeking the nearest Sorority house!
:D

[NoNameKleenex]

To heck with that noise. If that ever happens to me, I'm seeking the nearest Sorority house!
:D

I see many penicillin shots in your future :)

[Kenzan]

I see many penicillin shots in your future :)

I didn't say a Canadian Sorority house.


BAM!

:laugh:
:D

[NoNameKleenex]

Ha! We don't even need penicillin. We're a hardy bunch.

[Sparv]

Ok, this thread is fucked up.

Philosophy, alcohol, sex and drugs

Which is the odd one out?
I'm not very sure about the right name for this game

I love this forum!

[michaelm]

"people that suck...should worry about not sucking."
-misterkurukuru

[Thunder]

"It is only the ignorant who despise education"
Publus Sirus 32BC

"Your ethics are only as good as your last decision"

"Language is the only divine being on the planet"

[still learning]

Only the mediocre are always at their best. (Jean Giraudoux)

Not bad............. but for MA people - how about- - -


The mountain path
I climbed with my Sensei
led to the foothills;
The path to the peak
is a solitary one.


A 17th Century Haiku which guides me.

[Nokori 3byo]

"Amphiaraus had no boastful sign, but weapons chastely plain." [Euripides, Phoenician Women (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0226307662/carlosparada-20) 1110]

"When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk." [Tuco, "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly"]

[Alison2805]

Stay with someone because you love them, not because they love you - Andrea Bocelli

[Kendoka_Han]

"There is universal truth, and there is individual truth. These two truths can co-exist, or can be completely opposite. The latter is deadly." - Dave Hunt

"Retirement only happens when you die!" - Dave Hunt

"Lets pick up from what Robert Morey said about individual beliefs of being Gods. If you are a God, and I am a God, that would explain why the world is in such a mess!" - Dave Hunt

:)

[Charuzu]

"At night their is no such thing as an ugly women"
-Ovid

“If you live with a cripple, you will learn to limp”
-Plutarch

"Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud.”
-Sophocles

“Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for.”
-Epicurus

Epicurus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicurus) is my favorite philosopher. I strongly recommend that every one read his works. He also had a really logical view of religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicureanism#Religion) which I'll just link to rather then post directly to avoid any drama.

[Charuzu]

"There is universal truth, and there is individual truth. These two truths can co-exist, or can be completely opposite. The latter is deadly." - Dave Hunt

"Retirement only happens when you die!" - Dave Hunt

"Lets pick up from what Robert Morey said about individual beliefs of being Gods. If you are a God, and I am a God, that would explain why the world is in such a mess!" - Dave Hunt

:)

It's not the same guy in this video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=158669342421820213) claiming that Harry Potter is Evil now is it? I also seem to remember him listing Evolution as a cult @_@"

[Kendoka_Han]

"At night their is no such thing as an ugly women"
-Ovid


:laugh:

I will extend that quote!

"At night their is no such thing as an ugly woman, because in the dark, any vagina will feel the same!" - Uncle Pete

[Kendoka_Han]

It's not the same guy in this video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=158669342421820213) claiming that Harry Potter is Evil now is it? I also seem to remember him listing Evolution as a cult @_@"

Yeh thats the guy, and as such as the many other faithful teachers such as Kent Hovind, I.D.E Thomas, Joe Schimmel, T.A McMahon, Bill Schnoebelen (very very knowledgeable).

If you take the time to listen and study the topics these people express, and compare it with all theological scriptures (all religions), you will find a Universal truth (and for me, thats in the bible)!

And yes, evolution is evil ;) :p

[verissimus]

Here's a short poem by Tagore that I've always found inspiring. It is strangely relevant even a century after it was written.

Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high;
Where knowledge is free;
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow
domestic walls;
Where words come out from the depth of truth;
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection;
Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the
dreary desert sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever-widening thought
and action--
Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake.

[Decado]

"Give people three choices and they'll take the fourth one!"

[NorthernKendoka]

"The choice is always yours to make but you can't always choose your alternatives"

No one can ever force you to make a cretain decision but they can make their best to give you crappy alternatives. An extention of that is:

"Freedom is not beeing allowed to choose for yourself but having good options"

"Accidents doesn't happend they are caused"
- Major Hemphele (during a briefing on safty)

"Life is unfair, then you die"

[Charlie]

:D

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

Or...

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the juice of Safu that thoughts acquire speed,
the lips acquire stains the stains become a warning.
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

[Inner_Silence]

"At night their is no such thing as an ugly women...


...only low alcohol beers"

-Me

[Jubjub]

My favourites:smoker:

Miyamoto Musashi
"Pay homage to the deities and Buddha, but do not seek of them"

"Learning without thought,is labor lost: thought without learning is perilous."
Confucious quoted in Bushido Inazo Nitobe "Education and Training Of a Samurai"

also great lines

Verna: Shouldn't you be doing your job?
Tom Reagan: Intimidating helpless women is my job.
Verna: Then go find one, and intimidate her.
Gabriel Byrne and Marcia Gay Hayden in Miller's Crossing

"Game... blouses"
Prince on Dave Chappelle

[Fox]

I have always found many of the precepts of Musashi Miyamoto inspirational as well as thought-provoking. It is also interesting to read his precepts in the Book of Five Rings and follow them with the further refined precepts provided by the Dokkodo.

From Go Rin no Sho (translated):
1. Do not think dishonestly.
2. The Way is in training.
3. Become acquainted with every art.
4. Know the Ways of all professions.
5. Distinguish between gain and loss in worldly matters.
6. Develop intuitive judgment and understanding for everything.
7. Perceive those things which cannot be seen.
8. Pay attention even to trifles.
9. Do nothing which is of no use.
From Dokkodo (translated):
1. "Accept everything just the way it is."
2. "Do not seek pleasure for its own sake."
3. "Do not, under any circumstances, depend on a partial feeling."
4. "Think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world."
5. "Be detached from desire your whole life long."
6. "Do not regret what you have done."
7. "Never be jealous."
8. "Never let yourself be saddened by a separation."
9. "Resentment and complaint are appropriate neither for oneself or others."
10. "Do not let yourself be guided by the feeling of lust or love."
11. "In all things have no preferences."
12. "Be indifferent to where you live."
13. "Do not pursue the taste of good food."
14. "Do not hold on to possessions you no longer need."
15. "Do not act following customary beliefs."
16. "Do not collect weapons or practice with weapons beyond what is useful."
17. "Do not fear death."
18. "Do not seek to possess either goods or fiefs for your old age."
19. "Respect Buddha and the gods without counting on their help."
20. "You may abandon your own body but you must preserve your honour."
21. "Never stray from the Way."
These precepts are certainly not as abbreviated as single quotations, but it would seem that in the interests of presenting a very compact expression of martial philosophy, this would be my bid. Please forgive me if this information has already been posted. Thank you for your patience.
Respectfully:

[Kagerou]

four pages of stuff about philosophy......

brevity is the soul of wit.

[The great I AM]

4 whole pages before someone went cut and paste on Musashi's ass. That's a lot longer than I was expecting!

[Masahiro]

"Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you'll find yourself crying alone".


How about this one Gib, >> I love Musashi for what he was, (and didn't pretend to be) but I hate him for what people think he is.

[DCPan]

brevity is the soul of wit.

It's especially amusing, considering the context where the phrase came from :D

[Fox]

I love Musashi for what he was, (and didn't pretend to be) but I hate him for what people think he is.

I quite agree.
Actually, I should apologize for posting all of the precepts the way I did.
I had difficulty choosing one, since I did not have a favorite. A moment of weakness, perhaps. :ko:
Thank you for enduring my presumption so gracefully.
With the utmost respect.

[Kenzan]

Above these apparent hieroglyphics was a figure of evidently pictorial intent, though its impressionistic execution forbade a very clear idea of its nature. It seemed to be a sort of monster, or symbol representing a monster, of a form which only a diseased fancy could conceive. If I say that my somewhat extravagant imagination yielded simultaneous pictures of an octopus, a dragon, and a human caricature, I shall not be unfaithful to the spirit of the thing. A pulpy, tentacled head surmounted a grotesque and scaly body with rudimentary wings, but it was the general outline of the whole which made it most shockingly frightful.

H.P. Lovecraft

"The Call of Cthulhu"

[Kagerou]

It's especially amusing, considering the context where the phrase came from :D

Never really liked the guy myself. Everyone seems to think he was a genius, but I think people read too much into what he wrote. I think it was harlequin romance for the time.

[JoDuncan]

I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your f**kin' mouth.
-Bill


Be excellent to each other
-Bill and Ted


"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."
-Albert Einstein


"If at first you don't suceed, pull your foreskin o'er your heid"
-Some Scottish person that was probably feeling a little patriotic and pissed.

[Inner_Silence]

this one I find interesting...


"Silicone parts are made for toys"

[Nige]

8. Pay attention even to trifles.

Who doesn't pay attention to trifle? it's awesome :p

[JoDuncan]

I second that, there are fewer things that could take my attention from trifle... and if said trifle was located on a certain Jessica Alba then there could be a nuclear war going on around me and I would have no idea...

[DCPan]

Never really liked the guy myself. Everyone seems to think he was a genius, but I think people read too much into what he wrote. I think it was harlequin romance for the time.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_'brevity_is_the_soul_of_wit'_mean

LOL, I was thinking of Polonius, actually.... :D

[Neil Gendzwill]

Regarding Musashi, I just wrote this on e-budo so I may as well rehash it here: The portions of the book that are technical use language that would only be meaningful to someone who has practiced that particular school of swordsmanship. Mostly I find the books' content to be misinterpreted and misunderstood by a large number of young "samurai" wannabes who have never set foot in a dojo but like to argue about it from a misperceived position of authority on the internet.

[bullet08]

whatever it says on megan fox's shoulder. don't know what it means, but it's tatooed on a very nice shoulder.

pete

[Kenzan]

"No means NO!"


-All my ex-girlfriends.


:D

[Maku-san]

"No means NO!"


-All my ex-girlfriends.


:D

Funny... all my ex-girlfriends said

More! More! MOOOORRREEE!!! :evil:

I think they were referring more to the 70's song by Andrea True Connection, though.:emb:

[Kenzan]

Funny... all my ex-girlfriends said

More! More! MOOOORRREEE!!! :evil:

I think they were referring more to the 70's song by Andrea True Connection, though.:emb:

Or they could have been screaming this while clawing at you through the heroin withdrawls.


:laugh:

[Maku-san]

Or they could have been screaming this while clawing at you through the heroin withdrawls.


:laugh:

Nah, couldn't have been heroin. Must've been the Spaneesh Fly, señor!!! :smoker:

[satsumaruma]

Nah, couldn't have been heroin. Must've been the Spaneesh Fly, señor!!! :smoker:

You let Spanish Insects shag women where you live?

Crikey!!:smoker:

[Inner_Silence]

You let Spanish Insects shag women where you live?

Crikey!!:smoker:

whoever spanish talkers shag women wherever, estimadisimo compañero

[ccheck5]

my favorite is "how can i love you if you won't open your legs."

[Alison2805]

geez, you guys sure know how to charm the ladies... :confused2

[Fred27]

geez, you guys sure know how to charm the ladies... :confused2

Aaawww...Dont worry, I'm still a perfect gentleman. :)
*flexes*

[Maku-san]

Aaawww...Dont worry, I'm still a perfect gentleman. :)
*flexes*

Been spending time in Spore, haven't ya, Fred-san?!? :laugh:

[ccheck5]

geez, you guys sure know how to charm the ladies... :confused2
i sure do. it just comes natural:smoker:

[Inner_Silence]

Aaawww...Dont worry, I'm still a perfect gentleman. :)
*flexes*

yeah sure...

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anyway, it was just a matter of time for this thread to change to juicy stuff... thats the way it always happens, thats the way we like it :D:D::D

[Jubjub]

my favorite is "how can i love you if you won't open your legs."

lovely....directly quoted from "great philosophical quotes of the modern neaderthal man" also sold with "benny hill's art of female seduction" and alec baldwin's "a-z guide to expert parenting"

[Kagerou]

lovely....directly quoted from "great philosophical quotes of the modern neaderthal man" also sold with "benny hill's art of female seduction" and alec baldwin's "a-z guide to expert parenting"

no dear....not neanderthal.....cromagnon man. Neanderthals just use a club.

[bravo22]

my philosophy...

you CAN bludgeon your way through politics

[Kagerou]

why do we need to have a philosophy anyways?

why not just shut yur yap and do it?

[imouto]

Love comes with one condition, that it be unconditional.

[Kenzan]

why do we need to have a philosophy anyways?

why not just shut yur yap and do it?

'cause some people are doin' it wrong.

:laugh:

[Kagerou]

Yeah but at least something will get accomplished.

[satsumaruma]

my favorite is "how can i love you if you won't open your legs."


hahaha loved this. posrep for you

(of course you could achieve this aim when the girl in question opens her mouth to reply:wink::eek:)


geez, you guys sure know how to charm the ladies... :confused2


damn, it doesn't work when the type a reply:eek:



Yeah but at least something will get accomplished.

Like what? Apart from writing down that you don't like philosophical statements?