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ShinKenshi
17th April 2009, 12:06 AM
Just saw this on YouTube and I started to wonder: what's the logic behind doing this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7jM2JRwX3Y

All I can say is I'm left scratching my head. Thoughts?
Tsunemori
17th April 2009, 12:23 AM
Maybe he's got an injured left hand, so he does (gyaku) migi jodan, but isn't strong enough for a proper grip, so holds the sword around the middle?
Toecutter
17th April 2009, 12:52 AM
I'd be willing to bet he had some injury on his left arm. There was a similar case in a tournament up here in NY last year. With the exception that the person doing jodan with the right was much stronger than the guy in the video. Also he played with his left behind his back and this guy plays with his left in front of his body, I wonder if you do jodan with one hand and keep your left in front is that a valid target?
Abramo
17th April 2009, 01:07 AM
I strongly suspect this is a guy I know; used to be my senpai. It's definetly in Brazil and in his dojo, maybe I'll drop an e-mail and ask. Recently we had a member of the National Team (E. Eisaku Onaka sensei) do just that. He in fact had broken bones (not sure which) so he used that kind of katate jodan. He would control maai by shifting his hand along the tsuka. Well, or so I was told. He is very strong but I didn't see him at it.
ShinKenshi
17th April 2009, 06:00 AM
The author of the vid posted the following:


This is my sensei, he can move his left arm. But he has a problem in his shoulder in this championship.Mystery solved.
Toecutter
17th April 2009, 06:13 AM
Did anyone ever get clarification if you're doing katate jodan and the other hand is in front if it's a valid target or not?
JSchmidt
17th April 2009, 07:10 AM
Did anyone ever get clarification if you're doing katate jodan and the other hand is in front if it's a valid target or not?

Makes no difference.
Kent Enfield
17th April 2009, 09:52 AM
There's a young man locally who does this, but in the left hand. It's because he's missing his right hand. Holding the tsuka near the tsuba effectively removes his kote as a target when he's in jodan.
ShinKenshi
17th April 2009, 01:01 PM
There's a young man locally who does this, but in the left hand. It's because he's missing his right hand. Holding the tsuka near the tsuba effectively removes his kote as a target when he's in jodan.Would it happen to be this gentleman?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3JRm2eB74U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSbulAiFKns (at 0:13)
Kent Enfield
17th April 2009, 01:51 PM
Would it happen to be this gentleman?No. (But that is to short.)
Exia00
17th April 2009, 02:14 PM
I wonder how that guy puts on his bogu.

Do you reckon someone assists him in it?
Anonymous
17th April 2009, 02:51 PM
I wonder how that guy puts on his bogu.

Do you reckon someone assists him in it?


I was wondering if I'd be able to do that one handed a while back, I tried it and the only thing I couldn't figure out was how to tie the tare...
Kenshi
17th April 2009, 09:50 PM
Theres a number of one handed/armed guys like this in the competition scene. Ive been able to see two people up close more than a few times. One of them also had a tv slot about his situation and he explained how he learned methods to tie everything himself.
Legionario
17th April 2009, 10:45 PM
Here:

http://www.shoubukan.com/topics/2005_12.html

http://www.fbs.co.jp/yell/kako/011018.html
Bear of Doom
21st April 2009, 07:13 AM
the bloke in the original vid looked perfectly healthy, he was using his other hand to grip the shinai whilst judging distance. it's a variation, the other hand is used to cover the Do.
here's a vid of yamanaka sensei ... 8dan i believe (passed on to me by my sensei), at about 0.45 they both switch to Jodan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3AHHa05hxk