Cut things in the woods with a wall hanger

[futabachan]

http://www.asheborokenjutsu.com/

[absenteekendoka]

http://www.asheborokenjutsu.com/

A whole new level of awfulness, who knew that the path to budo greatness begins in the mountains of North Carolina! All I could picture during that whole bit of video was his kiai simply being........




"Squuuuuuirrrrrrrrreeellllls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[sirius1906]

Are these people seriously delusional or just have really, really thick skin?

[Ken Morgan]

:rolleyes: I could say so much, but WTF? seems to be most approprate

[sirius1906]

F-ing wacko

[EndureForte]

"These arts have all found their way into the Katana Curriculum, to truly make it authentic, practical Kenjutsu. Asheboro KENJUTSU is a resurrection of an ancient training style, putting sensei and student back in a place more spiritually conducive to learning the sword than a shopping mall or the YMCA. While the sword can be learned in a group setting, it is difficult to achieve mastery and much of the more spiritual aspects of the katana – the pure focus, finding yourself doing what you cannot normally do, performing cuts you should not be able to normally perform. The School was founded to continue this heritage of peak personal performance and achievement."

I practice in a YMCA!!!! DAMMIT!!!! Guess I'm gonna have to relocate to the woods outside my house again. Maybe we should move some Ficus into the dojo for keiko. Yup, that will fix everything.

Somebody slap him. Please.

[Bruce Mitchell]

You can tell that his sword style is ancient by watching his hasuji...his cuts all target hobbits and dwarves.

[projecthikari]

lmao
~Musashi's Two ring katana. Battle-ready!~
http://www.asheborokenjutsu.com/musashi-katana.html
60$ =D

...lord.

[b8amack]

Did anyone read the "about the instructor"? I like how he subtly implies his father was a special forces/ cia spook type...

[projecthikari]

FAQ time!

"How long will it take to get a black belt?

Sorry, but we don't use a belt system at this time, so a better question would be: "How long will it take for me to master the sword?". Truthfully, a lifetime to master it, but I can make you very good with the katana in about a year. "KILL BILL" good."

[H.Sandsleth]

Well, getting to the level of ""Kill Bill" good" in a year may be true...

[b8amack]

You can tell that his sword style is ancient by watching his hasuji...his cuts all target hobbits and dwarves.

You'll notice all his students are appropriately sized for his hobbit-waza.

[samurai80]

More quotables from the site...

1.Do you offer a trial program? (I was totally gonna ask that, but guess what?! He was one step ahead of me!)
Our free trial is an initial private tour and orientation (Sounds romantic!) , which can last from 20 min. to 2 hrs. (You know...plan on visiting for twenty minutes....OR TWO HOURS! Why not 30 seconds? Or spend the night if you feel like it. You know someone has it together when you get time management like that. Twenty minutes, or two hours...seriously people.) And we're sure you'll be convinced of all the benefits of our approach to Kenjutsu, as well as be impressed by our pulchritudinous (pulchritaWHATANOUS? Just stop. There is no reason anyone should ever use this word...for any reason. Why would you do this? Are you planning on a lot of scholars signing up for this little adventure?) training ground. (Even if you don't sign-up - it's so beautiful you'll want to come back and go camping here!) ( What?!? Is this guy hitting on me again? God, just drop it, pal. I'm not in to you.)

[1prettygirl]

This guy is a douche bag like there's no freakin tomorrow. I wish to find this guy and see how "authentic" he really is when I question him to death.

"John could never find a dojo that could come close to the Old-World feeling of training in the mountains" LOL I spilt drink on my keyboard when I saw that.

From looking at his video, I can honestly say that I could teach this guy a thing or two, and I've only been doing kendo and iaido since January of this year.

[willszenith]

send in the ninjas....

[b8amack]

Special Announcement: Asheboro KENJUTSU Academy will soon be offering a shuriken (throwing star) course that will be as awesome as it is RARE. C'mon guys, who teaches the throwing star?


C'mon, guys!

[1prettygirl]

Oh I am bad lol I clicked on contact us and sent them this

Hi there,

Can you please provide me with your credentials in kenjutsu and iaido? Are you a black belt of some sort?

Thanks

Stacy

lol I'll let you guys know what he says

[Geordie Bruiser]

I keep throwing stars in my Zekken in case the guy I'm fighting is too good for me, which is quite often!

Dipped in the sweat drained from my gi for extra potency!!!

It sure does the job! :silly:

[still learning]

OMG! They are letting - nay, encouraging - beginners loose with 'sharp ones'.

Not so much 'Black Belts' as Rednecks........

I bet they have assault rifles hidden behind the trees.

[willszenith]

OMG! They are letting - nay, encouraging - beginners loose with 'sharp ones'.

Not so much 'Black Belts' as Rednecks........

I bet they have assault rifles hidden behind the trees.


and banjo's

[absenteekendoka]

and banjo's

...."You surrrre got a purdy mouth boy........"

:)

[1prettygirl]

I bet they have assault rifles hidden behind the trees.

They do have guns!

Buddy replied back to me and the gist of it is that he's done many trainings including kenjutsu ninjutsu and iaido, and never wanted to acquire belts since it's a load of crap (or is it that he's just failed to many times). However, he is qualified to be a black belt (LOL), and he does not represent any schools, so he created his own style of fighting. Then he goes on and say that he is trained in combat shooting and wilderness survival and how there's no belt for this (hahaha).

Follows with a paragraph long of advertising how fun and well rounded his program is and how everyone loves it.

He'll be doing public demostrations and if Im interested he'll "hook me up with showtimes."

[projecthikari]

This whole thread has got me in tears. holy crap, hahaha

[H.Sandsleth]

They do have guns!

Buddy replied back to me and the gist of it is that he's done many trainings including kenjutsu ninjutsu and iaido, and never wanted to acquire belts since it's a load of crap (or is it that he's just failed to many times). However, he is qualified to be a black belt (LOL), and he does not represent any schools, so he created his own style of fighting. Then he goes on and say that he is trained in combat shooting and wilderness survival and how there's no belt for this (hahaha).

Follows with a paragraph long of advertising how fun and well rounded his program is and how everyone loves it.

He'll be doing public demostrations and if Im interested he'll "hook me up with showtimes."

Sounds like Banjo Boy is inviting you over for a weekend in the woods..:cheeky:

[ArcticBlizzard]

Well pretty girl, you've just gotten yourself a date, lucky you :confused2


Being a backyard ninja is something you really have to prepare for. You need skillz, yes skills with a Z cuz it's just so awesome normal spelling isn't good enough. Skillz I've learned from my dad (yes he's way stronger than your dad and he's like a trillion black dan in karatE/kung fu) and from other unknown sources. While riding the bus home from school I invented this whole brand spanking new martial art, and I might just share it with you (cash or paypal payments only). So do you want to blablabla

You know what, I'm going to join because I want to be KILL Bill good within a year. "Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique" here I come :chinese:

[EndureForte]

Wait a second....who wouldn't want to know this stuff??!?!?!? I want to be Kill Bill Too and throw shurikens and master the lightweight and flexible katana in under a year and dress casual for practice and buy crappy swords that sensei got a deal on and never get a rank that would get me made fun of everywhere anyway...too!!!!

I'm burning my dougi right now and giving my custom do to my cat as a birthday present for his kitty poops.

[absenteekendoka]

Sounds like Banjo Boy is inviting you over for a weekend in the woods..:cheeky:

"....and now were gonna pick one lucky student and show you how to squealllllllllll like a pig...." :)

[H.Sandsleth]

It could be made into a script of a horror movie...a real bad one :-)

[Angel_Of_Music]

"....and now were gonna pick one lucky student and show you how to squealllllllllll like a pig...." :)

oink oink oooooiink grunt grunt snort grunt HA-CHOOOO!!!! "blows mucus out of snout" snort snort grunt oooooink!!

[1stdan]

"Sorry, but we don't use a belt system at this time, so a better question would be: "How long will it take for me to master the sword?". Truthfully, a lifetime to master it, but I can make you very good with the katana in about a year. "KILL BILL" good."

This is the best part. I fell out of my chair. This guy is nuts. Although I always knew the secret sword arts were found in the mountains of north carolina, thats a proven fact.........

[still learning]

A few years ago on Jerry Springer there was a chap introduced to the world under the article heading

''I married my horse'' [I sh1t you not!]

He was, as I recall, from North Carolina.........

(I think that - in the intervening years - the horse filed for divorce; Irreconsilable differences......... and he contested the case)

[Shogunmiyu]

.........d'you think there's a connection? :D

[absenteekendoka]

..and you thought only the sheep had to worry. ;)

[Angel_Of_Music]

^ Where are the animal rights activists!! LOL

[absenteekendoka]

^ Where are the animal rights activists!! LOL

Being ground up in a woodchipper and being fed to endangered spotted owls...........

Itsssssss peopllllleeeeeee!!!!!!!

:)

[Angel_Of_Music]

Being ground up in a woodchipper and being fed to endangered spotted owls...........

Itsssssss peopllllleeeeeee!!!!!!!

:)


Oh man... look at the PETA folks go! :laugh:

[Henry Jones Jnr]

So do we get a badge for lighting a fire using our bare hands??

[Missingno.]

DISCLAIMER: MARTIAL ARTS USE OR WRONG INFORMATION FOR JUST FOR TEACH PURPOSES ONLY.
WE CARE TO SAY, IF YOU OBTAIN INJURIES FROM PRACTICING MARTIAL ARTS, IMMEDIATELY SEEK A DOCTOR!

Does anyone who speaks ninja care to translate this?

Ehh, this should be in the thread about the ninja guy, but there doesn't seem to be a post delete function.

[Rennis]

send in the ninjas....

From the website


... he found the ultimate warrior tradition, the Togakure Ryu.

The ninja's are already there apparently.

[eon]

Reminds me of the guy with the "roy chux"

[Ricky Arias]

How long will it take to get a black belt?

Just ask the instructor about the belt system, but a better question would be: "How long will it take for me to master the sword?". Truthfully, a lifetime to master it, but I can make you very good with the katana in about a year. "KILL BILL" good.


I have no words....

[absenteekendoka]

"I so almost nunchuked you right there......"

:)

[Webalistic]

"Sorry, but we don't use a belt system at this time"
So.. how are they holding their pants up then without belts?


Do they have a grading system then? :p

[NigelSponge]

Nothing says 'traditional' Samurai/Ninja training like learning how to defend two assault rifle wielding white dudes with a cheap sword in the woods of North Carolina!

[hugo]

A few things stick out to me right now.

1) He is relatively in my neck of the woods, so I'm half-tempted to go look him up.

2) This site also boasts a "game room."

3) His style apparently represents the "culmination of of (his) life's work with the katana." Since he's only 39, I chuckle a bit.

[absenteekendoka]

A few things stick out to me right now.

1) He is relatively in my neck of the woods, so I'm half-tempted to go look him up.

2) This site also boasts a "game room."

3) His style apparently represents the "culmination of of (his) life's work with the katana." Since he's only 39, I chuckle a bit.

Ya , about that "game room" whatever he tells you don not get in the box...I repeat, DO NOT get in the box!!!

I'm sure theres swords involved just not the ones your thinking of..........

:p

[Mister Donut]

This is the most horrific thing I've seen in my life. Is this real? It's gotta be a hoax, there can't really be people like this in the world.

[absenteekendoka]

This is the most horrific thing I've seen in my life. Is this real? It's gotta be a hoax, there can't really be people like this in the world.

It's quite true, and sadly these people as well as....ugggh...."their followers" take it pretty seriously as well. I for one suspect one to many blows to the head as a child and being bottle fed Coca Cola as the root of the problem. The guy probably keeps a picture of Michael Dudikoff in his wallet.

[Mister Donut]

It's quite true, and sadly these people as well as....ugggh...."their followers" take it pretty seriously as well. I for one suspect one to many blows to the head as a child and being bottle fed Coca Cola as the root of the problem. The guy probably keeps a picture of Michael Dudikoff in his wallet.

I'm pretty sure that just out of camera view is a trailer park.

I'm surprised someone hasn't started a single thread to consolidate these awful schools and put a sticky on it. Call it McDojo's Hall of Shame or something. Seems like there are several threads calling out these dodgy looking martial arts schools.

[John Sutton]

A whole new level of awfulness, who knew that the path to budo greatness begins in the mountains of North Carolina! All I could picture during that whole bit of video was his kiai simply being........




"Squuuuuuirrrrrrrrreeellllls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Funny one. We actully tamed the squirrels with rubber shuriken.

C'mon guys, shuriken! C'mon guys!

And you never know where you'll find anything or anyone. Even a sensei in the "hillbilly" North Carolina montains. Geologically Racist! I do claim that term. I'm sorry you don't take me seriously, that balances the bad karma of my opinion of you based on your words. We're even.

Don't be hatin'. C'mon guys!

john
"every wolf suffers fleas..."


I'm pretty sure that just out of camera view is a trailer park.

I'm surprised someone hasn't started a single thread to consolidate these awful schools and put a sticky on it. Call it McDojo's Hall of Shame or something. Seems like there are several threads calling out these dodgy looking martial arts schools.

Isn't that what this is? A witch hunt? What's your motivation? I do not make any claim I cannot back up in the ring with either bokken or shinken. I am not a historical preservationist and for that I apologize for any offense to your love of such trappings. My belt is a weapons belt, meant for steel, and not the false airs of "purchased cloth authority". I do not allow anyone to call me "Sensei" or "Shidoshi" or "Soke". I am not Japanese! I am simply referred to as the instructor. Some of my students are black belts in other schools. How rude is this? From such educated little bushi! And you've never fought me before, have you? So how do you know? Less time hating, more time studying!

PS

john

You watch Springer? Wow. Not me. Stupid show. But you obviously like it...hmmmm....

john

I hate Coca-Cola (it cleans battery terminals and I'm supposed to drink it?) but I love all this attention! And from such battle-proven experts! Steeped in the blood of their enemies, the keyboard crusaders labor tirelessly to keep the world safe from guys like me! Seriously, dude, how much time do you spend on this type of stuff? Think that's normal, do ya? Wow. I can feel your hatred swelling - get a life, a proper sensei (if he were, you'd know this was very rude and stupid) and please, please, please, keep this going because my site traffic is actually up from all this hating! Everybody loves the underdog! Woof-woof!
john


How long will it take to get a black belt?

Just ask the instructor about the belt system, but a better question would be: "How long will it take for me to master the sword?". Truthfully, a lifetime to master it, but I can make you very good with the katana in about a year. "KILL BILL" good.


I have no words....

I must admit fault at this choice of words. It has been removed. It was an "inspired" moment.

john


Oh I am bad lol I clicked on contact us and sent them this

Hi there,

Can you please provide me with your credentials in kenjutsu and iaido? Are you a black belt of some sort?

Thanks

Stacy

lol I'll let you guys know what he says

But you didn't, pretty girl. You used your own words and not the words I sent in reponse to your "clever plan". You're so bad!!! And transparent!!! Don't worry, one day you'll be "one of the guys". You won't have to be afraid of the dark. Your Kendo-(sport)-sword skills will keep you safe. One day.

And you don't have a year under your belt and you're practically threatening me on this thread "I'd like to show him a thing or two, although I started in JANUARY. Now, pretty girl, what kind of example would I be setting if I did anything but laugh and laugh at that.

And if you're so pretty, why Mariah Carey's face instead of yours?

john
Mariah Carey quote, on the starving children in Africa
"I'd love to be that skinny! Except for all the flies...and death..."

Hey

[b8amack]

This thread just got awesome.

[Mister Donut]

Isn't that what this is? A witch hunt? What's your motivation? I do not make any claim I cannot back up in the ring with either bokken or shinken. I am not a historical preservationist and for that I apologize for any offense to your love of such trappings. My belt is a weapons belt, meant for steel, and not the false airs of "purchased cloth authority". I do not allow anyone to call me "Sensei" or "Shidoshi" or "Soke". I am not Japanese! I am simply referred to as the instructor. Some of my students are black belts in other schools. How rude is this? From such educated little bushi! And you've never fought me before, have you? So how do you know? Less time hating, more time studying!

PS

john

Well, you're right and you're wrong. Nobody here is out to shut you down, or prevent you from running your own business. This is not a witch hunt, it's public humiliation. Your website and many others like yours will draw this sort of attention. The motivation? I'm not really sure. All I know is this sort of thing happens a lot when a website like yours is made public. Someone who has background in the studies of human behavior will have a better answer to your question. I will apologize for the trailer park remark though, that was out of line and uncalled for.

Now, someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you need to be Japanese to be called Sensei. Your Japanese roommate from Oak Ridge Military Academy should have made this clear.

You're right, I don't know you, and though I am only a beginner, I am curious to see how much I’ve learned, if I’ve learned anything at all. The thought testing my skills against someone who has publicly made such claims intrigues me. I doubt I will ever find myself in North Carolina, but if you decide to visit Vancouver, BC someday, please contact me. I don’t hate you, nor do I have anything to prove, but it would definitely be interesting to meet some body like you.

Until then, I will take some of what you said to heart: I will study more.

[lethalblackbelt]

Isn't that what this is? A witch hunt? What's your motivation?

This is not a witch hunt, but to make people aware of Bullshido such as your establishment.


I do not make any claim I cannot back up in the ring with either bokken or shinken.

This is funny; you claim you can back up your skills in the ring and yet you make fun of those who practice Kendo as a sport.

BTW are these the skills you are referring to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yviAqiWESHY

You are FAR from being qualified to teach kenjutsu; not only that, but why on earth do you give kids LIVE BLADES to train with?! I find that extremely irresponsible and outright dangerous (why your students' parents allow them to participate in your "program" is beyond me).


My belt is a weapons belt, meant for steel, and not the false airs of "purchased cloth authority".

http://www.asheborokenjutsu.com/uploads/1/8/2/3/1823032/7539724_orig.jpg

Attacking the ground are we?

http://www.asheborokenjutsu.com/uploads/1/8/2/3/1823032/5189811_orig.jpg


And you've never fought me before, have you? So how do you know?

You tend to fit the bill of Bullshido; please do elaborate on the efficacy and quality of your art, because from what I'm seeing, you have had very little training in sword arts and frankly, you have no place teaching what you know so little about.

Also, sextuple posting is frowned upon.

[b8amack]

And you don't have a year under your belt and you're practically threatening me on this thread "I'd like to show him a thing or two, although I started in JANUARY. Now, pretty girl, what kind of example would I be setting if I did anything but laugh and laugh at that.


So she's not KILL BILL good yet?

[Ken Morgan]

So she's not KILL BILL good yet?


Can someone explain that to me please? What is "Kill Bill good"?

[Mister Donut]

Can someone explain that to me please? What is "Kill Bill good"?

Well, "Kill Bill Good" can be attained in about a year. In our dojo, students can take the shodan test with with our sensei's approval after one year of practice. So my guess is, as good as shodan?

I want to be "Darth Vader Good"......forget shinken, a red lightsaber is the way to go.

[Ken Morgan]

Well, "Kill Bill Good" can be attained in about a year. In our dojo, students can take the shodan test with with our sensei's approval after one year of practice. So my guess is, as good as shodan?

I want to be "Darth Vader Good"......forget shinken, a red lightsaber is the way to go.

Sooo...my 10+ years of iaido and jodo don't mean jack shit?
damn....

[samurai80]

Damn!!! I gotta go to work..but I'll be back. Save the last dance for me fellas/ladies.

[Mister Donut]

Sooo...my 10+ years of iaido and jodo don't mean jack shit?
damn....

10 years.....I think that would at least equate to "Luke Skywalker Good"....Luke from the Empire Strikes Back that is.....your not a Jedi yet.

[lethalblackbelt]

Can someone explain that to me please? What is "Kill Bill good"?

Slicing up water bottles in the woods of North Carolina.

[Ken Morgan]

Slicing up water bottles in the woods of North Carolina.

I think canadian water bottles are more dangerous....they're frozen 10 months of the years and are known to fight back.

[samurai80]

From- Giant Nerd

To- League of Extraordinary Assholes ( in care of samurai80)

Dear samurai80,
When I got on my computer today (dial-up), my hentai session was cut abruptly short upon discovering that I had unknowingly become the focus of a thread on Kendo-World. Upon viewing such thread, I immediately pulled my sweatpants back up, and replied to the thread with the following statement...

Isn't that what this is? A witch hunt? What's your motivation? I do not make any claim I cannot back up in the ring with either bokken or shinken. I am not a historical preservationist and for that I apologize for any offense to your love of such trappings. My belt is a weapons belt, meant for steel, and not the false airs of "purchased cloth authority". I do not allow anyone to call me "Sensei" or "Shidoshi" or "Soke". I am not Japanese! I am simply referred to as the instructor. Some of my students are black belts in other schools. How rude is this? From such educated little bushi! And you've never fought me before, have you? So how do you know? Less time hating, more time studying!

I also made several other half-assed retorts, which, due to my lack of social skills, fell short of their desired effects. Please help!

Sincerely,
"Belts are for Steel"


to: Belts are for Steel
from: Belts are for Pants

I've decided to spend more time hating, and LESS time studying. I know...you suggested the opposite, but today I'm feelin' frisky! When trying to piss off people on an internet forum there is a strategy for 'winning'. Hint: Reading 'The Book of Five Rings' and using that as a reference for the credibility of your teaching skills STILL can't teach you these winning strategies! There are three rules.

Rule 1- Don't talk about Fight Club.
Rule 2- Don't provide evidence on the internet that you're a douche.
Rule 3- I forget.

Let's get more in-depth with rule number two.Why? Because we can! Thanks technology! Don't do the following on this list. Remember...I said DON'T do theses things. I mean it. Don't. Really...don't.

1. Don't say "I do not make any claim I cannot back up in the ring with either bokken or shinken.". Lotta problems with this one. First off, where are sword fights going down in rings? Don't get me wrong, if sword fights are going down in rings (with bokuto, and shinken no less!), I want tickets. But what's with that whole statement about proving it? Are you saying you would fight someone with a shinken to prove your sword ability? That's a little much, and by 'a little much' I mean 'wierd'.
2. Don't say "And if you're so pretty, why Mariah Carey's face instead of yours?". Actually, 1prettygirl is a model. Ummm...so, you fucked that one up.
3. "My belt is a weapons belt, meant for steel, and not the false airs of "purchased cloth authority".". Terrible move. "Meant for steel". Just classic. The only way anyone should say "meant for steel" is in the same voice as the guy who always does the movie trailers. "purchased cloth authority". Jesus, you're like the first guy ever to rebell against something. You're an original. An obi works a lot better, but hey, what would those crazy Japanese know about kenjutsu? But who cares, 'cuz your'e "not Japanese"!
4. Definitely don't say "Bokken and Katana Curriculum Manual are included in tuition. Private classes with an instructor with a well-rounded education on the Katana from several disciplines including : Kenjutsu, Nito (two sword), Kendo, Iaido (drawing and cutting), and the Go Rin No Sho (Book of Five Rings).". I will seriously pay you to send me a copy of your "Bokken and Katana Curriculum Manual". Oh, and please include some of the sensei you've trained with for kenjutsu, kendo, iaido, Nito (giggle), and a reason why reading 'Go Rin No Sho' means something.
5. Don't have an internet page with this on it> “The sword is the soul.

Study the soul,

to study the sword.” My god you are deep. You are just a deep person, aren't you? You're a regular philoshophical type. I mean, why else would this be displayed if you weren't just the deepest bastard alive? Wow...just deep, man!
6. Don't post a picture of this...http://www.asheborokenjutsu.com/index.html You know you totally took that picture of yourself. By the way, that mustache looks great! Wha, what's that Mustache? You want me to kill you? Awww, c'mon, man...it's not so bad. Maybe scientists will invent a time machine, and you can travel back to 1991, and live with other mustaches just like you. That pose is CLASSIC!
7. "All website content property of Asheboro KENJUTSU Academy". Whoa, settle down buddy. All caps when spelling Kenjutsu. Know I know you train hard! You're an academy on top of it all?!!! Sounds fancy. Just think, I can go to an ACADEMY of kenjutsu, for six months free if I "Refer 3 students who sign-up, and receive 3 months free; 6 referrals and you get 6 months free.".

[b8amack]

Sooo...my 10+ years of iaido and jodo don't mean jack shit?
damn....

KILL BILL x 10 good. It's that simple.

[still learning]

KILL BILL x 10 good. It's that simple.

Or even...... KILL 10 BILL'S........

[Mr. T.]

Hello Mr. Sutton,


I do not allow anyone to call me "Sensei" or "Shidoshi" or "Soke".


putting sensei and student back in a place more ...

You where saying?

The reason we make fun of people like you is because you claim stupid and dangerous things. Let's start with the website shall we?

You claim to teach a 1000 year old art (in which you never took a class) in a professional environment (outside???). You also say that teach authentic, practical Kenjutsu. How can you claim that if you never had any kenjutsu classes to begin with? You are also willing to teach any idiot (gung-beginners who like to brag about how great they are do not belong carrying a sword). Also you are going to teach them Go-No-Rin-Sho (are you going to teach them how to read?). You cannot teach people things you've never understood yourself. GNRS can be interesting t read, and to learn a lesson of 2, but that's it. Unless you study, HNIR, you really do not understand it.

Just because you wave a sword around, doesn't make you a swordsman, just a dangerous fool (to yourself and those around you). With proper lesson (not your kind) you slowly start to understand the dangers of the sword and how to use it. It cannot be done without proper guidance. A form of guidance you can never give. You've done kendo, so you should understand what I'm talking about.

The vids show students using live blades without proper control. Using a live blade (after 5 "lessons" no less) like that is downright dangerous. The guy (David N.) can't even stand stand stable and you gave him a sharp sword? WTF, I was worried he might cut his own leg off (around 0:30). You should understand the 3 rules of JSA: Basics, basics, basics. If you can't stand correctly, you can't cut correctly. You did kendo, right, why didn't you realize this when started this BS? I can't take myself to watch Darian vids.

If you like to play samurai in the wood by yourself in fantasyland, go ahead. We'll still make fun of you, but you'll be harmless.

But now you are endangering others with this teaching BS. So please stop it. Find real dojo, study JSA for a very long time and then open a proper dojo (IF your teachers allow it).

Thank you for your time.

[GothMelancolia]

What was that word again…. in internet slang, when a registered forum user (KWF) would create a new user in order to generate a discussion or emotional response from others, anonymously?:wink:

and NO it's NOT about me but I have a suspect

[ScottUK]

Don't be hatin'. C'mon guys!I'm actually lovin' your site.

[Mister Donut]

What was that word again…. in internet slang, when a registered forum user (KWF) would create a new user in order to generate a discussion or emotional response from others, anonymously?:wink:

and NO it's NOT about me but I have a suspect

I had a thought that he might not be real........I've never in my entire life met anyone quite like this guy.

[b8amack]

What was that word again…. in internet slang, when a registered forum user (KWF) would create a new user in order to generate a discussion or emotional response from others, anonymously?:wink:

and NO it's NOT about me but I have a suspect

I actually thought this was an alt account as well, at first.

[lethalblackbelt]

I actually thought this was an alt account as well, at first.


Funny one. We actully tamed the squirrels with rubber shuriken.

C'mon guys, shuriken! C'mon guys!

And you never know where you'll find anything or anyone. Even a sensei in the "hillbilly" North Carolina montains. Geologically Racist! I do claim that term. I'm sorry you don't take me seriously, that balances the bad karma of my opinion of you based on your words. We're even.

Don't be hatin'. C'mon guys!

john
"every wolf suffers fleas..."

This post makes you wonder if it's a troll or legit.

[absenteekendoka]

This post makes you wonder if it's a troll or legit.

I'm actually thinking the guys legit ...grade A nut bar. :)

[samurai80]

He's legit. Whoa....let me be more specific. The KWF user "John Sutton" is actually John Sutton, the self-proclaimed instructor of Asheboro KENJUTSU Academy.

[Neil Gendzwill]

The mob over at Bullshido is on this one (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86349&).

[absenteekendoka]

The mob over at Bullshido is on this one (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86349&).

I knew I smelt torches burning........... :)

[Mister Donut]

The mob over at Bullshido is on this one (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86349&).

Good God!!!!!!!!!! That is 12 pages of pure gold!

"Very well, since you are more civil about this I will elaborate. I have never claimed to be a kensei incarnate. My students are not allowed to call me sensei; I have no menkyo kaiden. My title is simply instructor. I'm 37 and I first held a katana at 13, when I began a private tutelage in Togakure Ryu for 2 years and then trained others (nonprofit) for 7 years. Kenjutsu is a rather broad term and so is my curriculum, because I believe in the power of training in every style you can on any given weapon. Over the years I have "borrowed" from several sword schools (I won't dare mention their names for fear of retaliation, but if you are well-versed, you'll recognize them in some of the videos.) Short answer: Part Intensive Training, and Part Reconstruction. Long answer: Enroll and see for yourself

Really? Not one "teacher" at that age? Not Masters, but just teachers? It never ceases to amaze me how people limit themselves. Most dueling careers ended in their 30's. That's when the inner journey began. Interesting...

I have training to do; this online stuff is fun, but the ring calls...

js "

Relaliation???? WTF????

[1stdan]

This cat is a straight up joke. He has picked up a dictionary and learned to use big words. The truth is in the video. Unless he decided to show movies from his formative years as a marketing tool, this guy has no skill at all. I may not be an expert on JSA, having just taken up the study in the last few years, but i can recognize a bullshitter when i see one. He talks about retaliation and how he has gleemed techniques from different schools so that when a student comes up with what could be a legit question he can simply switch schools of thought, not to indicate that real though is being used here. A scam is a scam pure and simple.

[pgsmith]

Yeah, there's lots of them out there. However, I figure that if people wish to throw their money at them and not do any sort of research on their own, (in which case they would find threads like this one) then they must be happy with whatever they're getting from the fellow. No skin off of my nose, and no affect on my training what-so-ever.
Certainly good for a laugh though! :D

[Mister Donut]

Yeah, there's lots of them out there. However, I figure that if people wish to throw their money at them and not do any sort of research on their own, (in which case they would find threads like this one) then they must be happy with whatever they're getting from the fellow. No skin off of my nose, and no affect on my training what-so-ever.
Certainly good for a laugh though! :D

At first, I was thinking who cares, let him do what he wants, I could care less, until I saw the videos of those 13 yr olds swinging around those wall-hangers. That's dangerous and I think that should stop.

[Manuka]

The mob over at Bullshido is on this one (http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86349&).

Awesome read, Thank you Neil


Good God!!!!!!!!!! That is 12 pages of pure gold!


Agreed


Yeah, there's lots of them out there. However, I figure that if people wish to throw their money at them and not do any sort of research on their own, (in which case they would find threads like this one) then they must be happy with whatever they're getting from the fellow. No skin off of my nose, and no affect on my training what-so-ever.
Certainly good for a laugh though! :D

Unfortunately when his underage students lop off an arm or a leg the resulting publicity is bad for all sword arts and sometimes leads to the mess they have in the UK.


This was a post by Raphael on Bullshido
"A simple tsuki would break every of your stances and hit your on the spot, lethally, of course."

I disagree, the form shown by Mr. Sutton, leading with the head, and a follow through that would bring a smile to Tiger Woods lends itself more to a good Oji Men cut.
as in Shidachi for Kendo Kata #1
or Seitei, Nuki Uchi

or if Mr. Sutton really irritated you
or his entire student body was watching and you wanted to demonstrate why backyard ninjery was not a good idea -

Seitei Sogiri
:D

[b8amack]

I like how he tried to wiki his way out of the dispute "Ask me a question that only a true swordsman would know..."

The real question is how are the parents of his students so stupid? You know, assuming those aren't just his kids or nephews in the "training" videos.

[samurai80]

I like how he tried to wiki his way out of the dispute "Ask me a question that only a true swordsman would know..."

The real question is how are the parents of his students so stupid? You know, assuming those aren't just his kids or nephews in the "training" videos.

He's a real piece of work.

Most parents, or people in general, don't know too much about martial arts, much less JSA. Can't get too mad at 'em. I'm pretty sure those aren't his kids because...

a). his girlfriend/wife would have to be pushing out babies from different races, and...
b). it's hard for me to imagine that this guy has ever had sex before.

[absenteekendoka]

He's a real piece of work.

Most parents, or people in general, don't know too much about martial arts, much less JSA. Can't get too mad at 'em. I'm pretty sure those aren't his kids because...

a). his girlfriend/wife would have to be pushing out babies from different races, and...
b). it's hard for me to imagine that this guy has ever had sex before.

She gave birth to a bigfoot?!?

And does sex with himself count? :)

[tracr]

some senior members should get together and draft a letter to this person politely urging him to rethink handing swords to young, improperly trained children. maybe he would listen if the letter were signed by a dozen of the most respected iado teachers and/or sent to the local press.

clearly he is in desperate need of guidance himself, and while he appears resistant to the concerns (and ridicule) of this forum's membership, perhaps a dozen concerned teachers could get through to him, or at the very least alert the local community. a minor effort for the sake of these kids i would think.

in one of those videos he actually pauses to refer to a text and then continues teaching a young boy. yikes.

[Billy Bob]

some senior members should get together and draft a letter to this person politely urging him to rethink handing swords to young, improperly trained children. maybe he would listen if the letter were signed by a dozen of the most respected iado teachers and/or sent to the local press.

clearly he is in desperate need of guidance himself, and while he appears resistant to the concerns (and ridicule) of this forum's membership, perhaps a dozen concerned teachers could get through to him, or at the very least alert the local community. a minor effort for the sake of these kids i would think.

in one of those videos he actually pauses to refer to a text and then continues teaching a young boy. yikes.

Why, what purpose would that serve? I see nothing wrong here; he's only giving these youngsters some purpose, some direction and preparing them to walk in the footsteps of the warrior!

[ShinKenshi]

Why, what purpose would that serve? I see nothing wrong here; he's only giving these youngsters some purpose, some direction and preparing them to walk in the footsteps of the warrior!You see nothing wrong with someone who has made up their own martial art, with no legitimate training whatsoever, giving little kids sharp swords to swing around?

[b8amack]

I'm not an iaido person, and have never even held a shinken. I've seen a few, but that's about it. So I don't know anything about the claims being made here about the safety of the swords this guy is using for his beginner students to do cutting. But if what some of you are saying IS true, and they are unsafe for cutting period, particularly for children, then people need to be phoning up the asheboro police department, and fuck John Sutton.

All this hand-wringing about the kids, with no one saying anything to people in authority, is starting to look to me like posturing.

[Anonymous]

I'm not an iaido person, and have never even held a shinken. I've seen a few, but that's about it. So I don't know anything about the claims being made here about the safety of the swords this guy is using for his beginner students to do cutting. But if what some of you are saying IS true, and they are unsafe for cutting period, particularly for children, then people need to be phoning up the asheboro police department, and fuck John Sutton.

All this hand-wringing about the kids, with no one saying anything to people in authority, is starting to look to me like posturing.


If they're swinging around wall hangers all you need to do is look up that qvc accident on youtube for a good idea as to what can happen.

[absenteekendoka]

Why, what purpose would that serve? I see nothing wrong here; he's only giving these youngsters some purpose, some direction and preparing them to walk in the footsteps of the warrior!

.....and on the gurney of the paramedic, with half a wallhanger sticking out of their thigh.

:)

I wonder if there's an imminent ninja strike being prepared against us as well as Bullshido.com for exposing these guys for what they are. I can already picture John and Mountainous in their "lair" rallying ninjers everywhere for battle.
"Mountainous!! Dinners ready! It's mac and cheese!!"
"Mom! Can't you see we're getting ready to go to war here! Jeeez!!!!"
"Well sweety, you and your little friends can play later, dinners getting cold."
"Well....I guess...is there desert too?"
"Yes, if you boys have all your dinner, you can take some cookies and milk to the basement later..."
"Mom!! It's not a basement, it's our uber secret ninja worldwide headquarters!!!!"
"Ok dear... (I knew I never shoulda smoked all that pot in college when I was pregnant)......it's your lair."

[Mudansha]

Eh, I'm with tracr on this one.

As much as the thought of this guy winning the Darwin Awards one day might be humorous, the danger he poses to his students and himself is pretty real. Since it is such a small town, why would we not just let the potential victims know that a questionable sword teacher is on the loose, instead of trying to ridicule him on the internet, which may in fact strengthen his resolve?

[ScottUK]

You see nothing wrong with someone who has made up their own martial art, with no legitimate training whatsoever, giving little kids sharp swords to swing around?Based on the following quote from him on another thread, I wouldn't bother. Billy Bob is either:

a) a KW member having a laugh,
b) a troll, or
c) so retarded that inbreeding may actually help his family line.

You choose...

I must confess that I sometimes 'borrow' things I see from you tube; especially those ultra cool spins, but I still add my own stamp to them and make them my own! My master is always impressed when I show him what I've learnt (he even takes notes sometimes).

[ShinKenshi]

Based on the following quote from him on another thread, I wouldn't bother. Billy Bob is either:

a) a KW member having a laugh,
b) a troll, or
c) so retarded that inbreeding may actually help his family line.

You choose...My initial response to seeing this guy's posts was thinking he/she was the second or third, but on the off chance they're the first kind, no sense in getting myself into another dozen pages worth of a mess. I'll hold my tongue.

[Jordan Lavin]

Based on the following quote from him on another thread, I wouldn't bother. Billy Bob is either:

a) a KW member having a laugh,
b) a troll, or
c) so retarded that inbreeding may actually help his family line.

You choose...

I'm simply going to add in a D for all of the above and circle it.

[Mister Donut]

Based on the following quote from him on another thread, I wouldn't bother. Billy Bob is either:

a) a KW member having a laugh,
b) a troll, or
c) so retarded that inbreeding may actually help his family line.

You choose...

At first, I thought a). His post in this thread almost appeared as if he was joking around, but judging from the existence of that post from the other thread, my choice is leaning towards c).

[pgsmith]

Wow folks, y'all really get spun up about this sort of thing don't you! So he's teaching kids. That means the kids parents are morons and shouldn't have been allowed to breed in the first place! If one of the kids gets hurt, I'll feel sorry for him, but it won't really affect my sleep any. However, that would definitely put an end to mister "lookit me I'm a kenjutsu master" and his Hokeey Dokeey ryu (NOT to be confused with Hoki ryu) school. He's an idiot. His students are obviously idiots. Sometimes I think we just don't give Darwin's theory enough room to operate! :)

[ScottUK]

That means the kids parents are morons and shouldn't have been allowed to breed in the first place!I'm sorry, Mr Smith - I don't see how religion comes into this. Please refrain from making blanket allegations about Mormons (http://zenjistsu.com/ws/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/mormon-ninja.jpg) or I'll have you flogged.

[pgsmith]

Don't mention religion! You'll make Hand Solo drool all over his keyboard!

Despite the fact that some people seem to see it that way, stupidity is actually not a religion. It can, however, be a bit of a religious experience. Whenever I see things like the video of the aforementioned "kenjutsu instructor", it makes me go ..... Oh God!!!! ....... :)

[1stdan]

Sometimes I think we just don't give Darwin's theory enough room to operate! :)

Amen to that.

[tracr]

Wow folks, y'all really get spun up about this sort of thing don't you! So he's teaching kids. That means the kids parents are morons and shouldn't have been allowed to breed in the first place! If one of the kids gets hurt, I'll feel sorry for him, but it won't really affect my sleep any. However, that would definitely put an end to mister "lookit me I'm a kenjutsu master" and his Hokeey Dokeey ryu (NOT to be confused with Hoki ryu) school. He's an idiot. His students are obviously idiots. Sometimes I think we just don't give Darwin's theory enough room to operate! :)

I agree, except in the case where the person comes to your dojo (which this is in some sense, being a group of properly trained individuals). This person did come here and defend himself, and some members here contacted him personally, and in that circumstance don't you think you need to switch gears and try to provide some form of positive influence, even from the flames room? Would your sensei simply ridicule this guy if he showed up at his door? It's a question of the remedy matching the circumstances.

[pgsmith]

Would your sensei simply ridicule this guy if he showed up at his door?
My Japanese sensei wouldn't allow him in the door, and my American sensei would, in fact, ridicule the fellow to his face. :) He has very little tolerance for idiots actually.

I figure if a simple "hey buddy, you really don't have a clue and should actually learn what you should do with a sword" doesn't work, then they are no concern of mine. That fellow is neither a relative, member of my ryu, nor my friend. Therefore, I feel no sense of responsibility for him what so ever. His safety, and that of anyone dumb enough to give him money, is a matter of total indifference to me. If he wants to come down to Texas and apply for admittance to my dojo, I might think differently. Until that time, he's welcome to chop off any and all of his appendages. People should assume responsibility for their own safety and well being. If they don't, I feel that we should simply let experience teach them otherwise.

[tracr]

My Japanese sensei wouldn't allow him in the door, and my American sensei would, in fact, ridicule the fellow to his face. :) He has very little tolerance for idiots actually.

I figure if a simple "hey buddy, you really don't have a clue and should actually learn what you should do with a sword" doesn't work, then they are no concern of mine. That fellow is neither a relative, member of my ryu, nor my friend. Therefore, I feel no sense of responsibility for him what so ever. His safety, and that of anyone dumb enough to give him money, is a matter of total indifference to me. If he wants to come down to Texas and apply for admittance to my dojo, I might think differently. Until that time, he's welcome to chop off any and all of his appendages. People should assume responsibility for their own safety and well being. If they don't, I feel that we should simply let experience teach them otherwise.

Paul,
I'm with you on most of this, especially the notion of not providing fuel in the form of further training to someone who acts irresponsibly. My suggestion was simply communication of essentially the "hey buddy, you really don't have a clue..." message albeit in a form he might actually hear, from a collective of teachers he might listen to.

I guess I just don't share your indifference. When faced with ignorance, I can ridicule, ignore it, or try to say something very clear and pointed which might help. I've never witnessed any positive result from the first two, but very often a moment of consideration results from the latter, and consideration can lead to reconsideration. Perhaps your teachers' wisdom is more profound. This is simply my experience.
Rich

[pgsmith]

When faced with ignorance, I can ridicule, ignore it, or try to say something very clear and pointed which might help.
I see that we seem to be simply arguing semantics here. I am all for helping ignorance, which is simply a lack of knowledge. I am extremely tolerant of ignorance, because I realize that not everyone gets the same opportunities for knowledge. However, I am also all about ignoring, and in some cases ridiculing, stupidity. Ignorance is a temporary affliction which can be easily remedied by applying knowledge. Stupidity is incurable because the stupid person is aware of the knowledge, but chooses to ignore it to pursue their own agenda. I believe the fellow in question on this thread, and many others like it, are incurably stupid and therefore I feel no remorse over ridiculing them.

[adman]

I think Tom Cruse was his sensei

[absenteekendoka]

I'm sorry, Mr Smith - I don't see how religion comes into this. Please refrain from making blanket allegations about Mormons (http://zenjistsu.com/ws/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/mormon-ninja.jpg) or I'll have you flogged.

Damn it man!! I sweat I nearly pissed myself laughing there, thank god I wasn't drinking coffee!! :)

[Wraith]

I'm sorry, Mr Smith - I don't see how religion comes into this. Please refrain from making blanket allegations about Mormons (http://zenjistsu.com/ws/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/mormon-ninja.jpg) or I'll have you flogged.

This thread just gets better and better! Now, when does the sado masochism begin? :D

[absenteekendoka]

This thread just gets better and better! Now, when does the sado masochism begin? :D

Paging Dr. Sats......paging Dr. Sats..............Dr. Sats to the gimp room. :)

[Mister Donut]

I think Tom Cruse was his sensei

Actually, Uma Thurman would probably be the likely candidate (Kill Bill)

Seriously though guys, has the question been asked if Mr. Sutton even wants formal training? Would he consider a break from teaching until he himself has acquired enough skill to safely pass it on to others?

Mr. Sutton, if you are still monitoring this thread, would you consider this?

[1stdan]

Your action are honorable Senior Donut, but alas Sutton is more than likely not going to do any such thing. Not to sound stereotypical, but his kind rarely even acknowledge there is any wrong doing. In his ninja mind he is the successor to Hatsumi's thrown. He can do no wrong. Unfortunately it will come down to someone getting hurt seriously and then the law suits begin, then the running and before you know it Sutton is on Americas Most Wanted. I have personally tried to talk sense to several of our local ninjas and all i get is vulgar threats and arrogant attitudes. Thats does not mean we should stop trying though.

[adman]

[QUOTE=Mister Donut;393081]Actually, Uma Thurman would probably be the likely candidate (Kill Bill)

oh sorry i forgot she was also a grand master at the age of 35

[bravo22]

Damn it man!! I sweat I nearly pissed myself laughing there, thank god I wasn't drinking coffee!! :)

You sweat AND pissed yourself?

I feel sorry for your upholstry. :p

[absenteekendoka]

You sweat AND pissed yourself?

I feel sorry for your upholstry. :p

It's all about the ScotchGard! :)

[Hyaku]

Just out of interest: I spend a lot of my time in the Philippine jungle now. Over three hectares of copra (coconut land). I spend a lot of time clearing the land. As locals have said I can easily pay some one to do it but I enjoy the exercise. As I spent a lot of time doing tameshigiri competition in Japan, naturally I took some choice Japanese weapons with me long and short. Complete waste of time compared with local weapons that even kids carry to school as garden implements. I good hooked weapon or with the opposite curve like a gurkha knife is the way to go. Lots of serious hard work cutting shrubs, trees and foliage, you need a good weapon/tool and a good stone to look after it.

[Mister Donut]

When it boils down to it, a sword is just another tool....katana is a damn nice looking tool, with extraordinary engineering, but in the end, it's a tool - an extension of the human hand, an aid because we cannot naturally cut things with our own appendages.

If I were clearing a forest full of bamboo, trees or shrubs, I would not take this particular tool with me. I'd bring a machete, or a gurkha, or hell, a chainsaw.

Never in a million years would I get into a sword fight, but if I were to go to a sword fight, I'd bring a sword.

[ScottUK]

I'd bring a machete, or a gurkha, or hell, a chainsaw.You're gonna swing one of these (http://www.operations.mod.uk/fingal/fimages/gurkha.jpg) around?

[Mister Donut]

You're gonna swing one of these (http://www.operations.mod.uk/fingal/fimages/gurkha.jpg) around?

I knew there was something weird about the spelling....I think he meant kukri, or khukri or khukuri. That's the last time I quote someone else's spelling.

[ScottUK]

Acutally, a kukri is a Gurkha('s) knife. Nothing wrong with Hyaku's post... ;)

[Mister Donut]

Sorry, my mistake.

By the way, Mr. Sutton's been awfully quiet....does he go by Billy Bob or NinjasHAteKWF or Dick Cheney nowadays?

[Ken Morgan]

Never in a million years would I get into a sword fight, but if I were to go to a sword fight, I'd bring a sword.

I'd bring a gun, a big mother F#@*#! of a gun.:grin:

[MartialArtsGirl]

Did anyone read the "about the instructor"? I like how he subtly implies his father was a special forces/ cia spook type...

My Grandfather was in the OSS (old name for the CIA). But he wasn't spooky.

Ok, maybe he was, but not in a thug type way. He just had a temper. Or so I remember from my 6 year old brain.

He wasn't so good at keeping secrets. >.< But he did live long enough to make it through the war... heh:cheeky:

So.... I dont know where I'm going with this. Maybe ...just cause someones in the CIA doesn't mean they are a spook. (If thats what the website guy was implying?)

Also, one of my old friends father was in the CIA. He was a completly average (bald) guy. I guess he wasn't undercover like my grandfather though...

[Wraith]

My Grandfather was in the OSS (old name for the CIA). But he wasn't spooky...

In this context spook is another word for a spy (like James Bond) ;)

[1stdan]

You're gonna swing one of these (http://www.operations.mod.uk/fingal/fimages/gurkha.jpg) around?

They are kind of hard to hold on to Scott but if you can manage one they are deadly. They do tend to throw up after too many suburi though.

[cr720]

...Yes, I do believe the mountains of North Carolina are steeped in an ancient history of swordmanship...

Maybe this guy and George Dillman can get together and train each other sometime. George can throw his good ol' chi balls around and Sutton can try to cut them before he gets knocked out :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsSzSflkns8

Don't forget to wriggle your toes, Sutton! He'll never be able to knock you out that way!

[bravo22]

I'll show you my chi balls!

[Kendoka_Han]

Maybe this guy and George Dillman can get together and train each other sometime. George can throw his good ol' chi balls around and Sutton can try to cut them before he gets knocked out :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsSzSflkns8

Don't forget to wriggle your toes, Sutton! He'll never be able to knock you out that way!

This is just sad. The pressure points do exist, but the so called, "Chi-Ball"...uh...Kamehameha?

I have no doubt Benny Hinn seduces millions through precisely this. Check this video out via someone demonstrating the so called "techniques", maturely and logically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bffI10DDj-c

[ScottUK]

The pressure points do existSo does kendo. Try sticking with it.

[Hyaku]

I knew there was something weird about the spelling....I think he meant kukri, or khukri or khukuri. That's the last time I quote someone else's spelling.

Oops my bad. Of course gurka use Kukri/Gurkah knife. We call it a Bolo anyway.

[absenteekendoka]

...Yes, I do believe the mountains of North Carolina are steeped in an ancient history of swordmanship...

Maybe this guy and George Dillman can get together and train each other sometime. George can throw his good ol' chi balls around and Sutton can try to cut them before he gets knocked out :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsSzSflkns8

Don't forget to wriggle your toes, Sutton! He'll never be able to knock you out that way!

Oh, I think there'd be balls flying around, just not of the chi variety.........errrr.

[KendoKidd]

This thread has completely made my day. I couldn't stop laughing...though at this point, I think most of my thoughts have been expressed by others.

As a teacher, I have a code of ethics and would not teach anything out of my content range. Whether Mr. Sutton calls himself "instructor," "sensei," etc, such titles should be handled with care and a sense of honor. Having students or claiming to have a "sensei - student" relationship is not something trivial. I would hope that Mr. Sutton reflects on what teaching and being a (competent) teacher really means before he continues to encourage inexperienced children to use sharp swords regardless of whatever school/schools he may (or may not) have derived his concepts from.

[still learning]

They do tend to throw up after too many suburi though.

That is not vomit - - it is visible Kiai...........

[Ryuu_Shade]

I read this thread and could not stop laughing
My final thoughts are...
first. I'm pretty sure the "john stutton" that posted is not the guy from the site. I can't imagine anyone seriously saying most of that, thinking that they would convince anyone of anything. most notably "we trained the squirrels with rubber shuriken" (though I do have a hard time understand why anyone would make the school or site...)
Second. If someone is that old, and stupid enough to make up their own style like that, then they deserve the incredibly painful death that awaits. However, opening a school and training kids with live blades is too much. The kids probably think that it's a school, so it must be real. Plus it would look cool to them. Their parents may not know, or may not be in any condition to care for children.
third. even I, who has no background in any martial arts yet, can tell that this guy has no base (the wind could knock him over), and would most certainly be dangerous for the opposite reasons that an "authentic ninja" would have been. (lack of skill is probably more dangerous than skill itself in this situation)
and lastly, I am glad he doesn't want to be called sensei, though I think teacher and instructor aren't any more fitting since they are synonymous.

[Ryuu_Shade]

Also, you can definitely feel the aura of swordsmanship when you visit North Carolina. I heard the new motto for North Carolina was. "North Carolina, the birthplace of the ancient SuperAwsomenessStyle-do-ka -garatararatadoukamasofameredo sword style"

[R.C. Russell]

first. I'm pretty sure the "john stutton" that posted is not the guy from the site. I can't imagine anyone seriously saying most of that, thinking that they would convince anyone of anything..

It's is him for sure. If you go over to Bullshido.com, he continues to make a fool of himself...http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=86349&page=10.