14th WKC Twitter

[Black Knight]

FYI:

http://twitter.com/taroariga

Anyone know of a better source?

Wish we could see video! :D

[Gideon]

I keep refreshing KW's youtube page in hopes that something will be posted. Should have bought a ticket and gone myself. :D

just saw this from the twitter feed:

"Just played mj's thriller in the opening."

ROFL

[Halcyon]

What's the URL to KW's youtube page again?

[NGeorge]

The Australian Kendo Federation is putting out lot of info on twitter:

http://twitter.com/auskendotwit

[JSchmidt]

http://twitter.com/auskendotwit

Mainly Australian stuff..

[Bokushingu]

What's the URL to KW's youtube page again?

if you haven't found it yet, here it is: User name is KendoWorld (http://www.youtube.com/user/KendoWorld)

[Halcyon]

Thank you, kind sir.

[Shmur]

You can do a search for wkc at search for wkc (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=wkc) on twitters search site or through your favorite twitter client to get a stream of people tweeting about everything WKC related. If you use tweetdeck, you can set it as it's own column that will auto-refresh, which is nice.

[hoonyistyle]

Ind. Finals

Teramoto of Japan vs. B Park of Korea (26 years old, yon-dan) Impressive~..

[Halcyon]

Termamoto takes men's individual title.

[Neil Gendzwill]

From the Australian twitter sounds like Kirby Smith, who posts here from time to time, made the quarters. Way to go, Kirby. He took out a Canadian to do it. Boo, Kirby.

[Malek]

As much as I've tried to stay away from Twitter... following along was sort of a throwback to the old days (for me anyway). One person had a radio with an earpiece and would periodically announce the scores or big plays in the game.

Gotta love technology.


Mal

[Black Knight]

I like the Aussie commentary style. The final was a "torrid affair" eh? Guess there was more of the "rough kendo" so despaired of, but not an American in sight?? :)

[b8amack]

Did I read that right? 3 Koreans in the semis and 1 Japanese (who won)

[MikeW]

A friend of mine is at the WKC. I just got an email from him saying he was watching the final match from 50 feet away. Lucky!

[b8amack]

Agh... I gotta make some plans for 2012!

[ChaShu]

Yes. nothing like kendo and pasta...

[Usagi San]

Teramooooooooooooooto.

[Alex]

Videos will be posted later tonight. There were some really great matches today.

[kigurai]

Teramoto beats Park with Hiki-men.

You gotta see Yang in the semi-finals. Brutal match. So exciting. Im watching from 50 feet away.

[burger boy]

Thanks Alex, looking forward to seeing them.

Paul

[Ralutin]

Teramoto beats Park with Hiki-men.

You gotta see Yang in the semi-finals. Brutal match. So exciting. Im watching from 50 feet away.

Yang in the semifinals? Which one and from where? I thought the semifinals had Teramoto, Park and two others from Korea (Lee and Choi?)?

[RMurao]

Kirby Smith beat Takashi

[Neil Gendzwill]

Hey, Ryan, nice to hear from you. Are you in Brazil? Is your dad there?

[Mr.Tvola]

I thought the semifinals had Teramoto, Park and two others from Korea (Lee and Choi?)? That is also what I have heard.

Please post video links anyone :-)

[Usagi San]

I thought the semifinals had Teramoto, Park and two others from Korea (Lee and Choi?)?

I thought the two others were Lee & Kim...

[kigurai]

Yes, Chris was beaten in the semi-finals . Finals were Teramoto, Park, Kim and Choi. 1,2,3,&3.

[Cutie_honey]

Yes, Chris was beaten in the semi-finals . Finals were Teramoto, Park, Kim and Choi. 1,2,3,&3.

Weren't Yang and Kim in Teramoto's pool?

[JSchmidt]

Yes, Chris was beaten in the semi-finals . Finals were Teramoto, Park, Kim and Choi. 1,2,3,&3.

I think your terminology is a little mixed up. Last 4 is semi-finals. Last 8 is quarter finals.

[DCPan]

Here's a nice visual courtesy of wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mitbat-2007-bracket-large.png

[Usagi San]

Weren't Yang and Kim in Teramoto's pool?
Yep.
You're right... so it's gotta be... :nervous: Choi?

[Alex]

Yes, Chris was beaten in the semi-finals . Finals were Teramoto, Park, Kim and Choi. 1,2,3,&3.

Danny was beaten in the quarter-finals. Chris didn't make it out of the pool of death because he was beaten by Teramoto. He did beat his Korean opponent with 2 beautiful points though.

[Gideon]

Chris Yang was unfortunately eliminated early by Teramoto. Danny Yang made it farther and is the 'Yang' referred to above.

[kigurai]

Sorry, confused re: Semi Finals and Quarter finals. Trying to post some video on utube but new digital camera and Brazilian 220v/110v adaptors are driving me crazy. Only one outlet to keep all these batteries charged.

[Andoru]

Go go Aussies!! All Aussie men out of the pools w00t!

[xvikingx]

the pool of death
Aptly named!
Very interesting result for the individuals. If the trend continues and Korea puts up an equally or even harder fight this maybe the 2nd WKC in a row that team Japan comes in 3rd.

[mingshi]

Hey found it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvMPoi20cYg

[Gideon]

That's the encho of the men's final - or a portion of it at least.

[xvikingx]

Here's another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH4E5qiG8ME

[Koban]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVl03jCtXM8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2FSth lmjap&feature=player_profilepage

that is the first half of the video that Gideon was talking about. same user.

[Ralutin]

Here's another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH4E5qiG8ME

Cool...I actually know a couple of people in that video...;)

[honolulu yba]

Looking at the semi-final match between Teramoto sensei and Lee sensei, to me it didn't look like Teramoto sensei hit the kote.

[xvikingx]

Found this as well:
http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/album.php?albumid=4

[Raffa]

It is possible that the figthing spirit was awarded to Fabrizio Mandia?
The CIK site says so, but hearing on twitter someone says it was awarded to an Australian, Kirby i think...
Someone can confirm the correct news?

[Alex]

there are 8 fighting spirit awards, so both of them were included.

[Raffa]

Thank you Alex!!!
Ignorance is always a bad thing ....(by the way now i'am curious, who are the other six?)

[vivi_lisalynn]

me too.... i am also curious about the 6 other fighting spirits... :)

[Slast]

Lisa ? haha

[Jefe]

Looking at the semi-final match between Teramoto sensei and Lee sensei, to me it didn't look like Teramoto sensei hit the kote.
You are right, Teramoto didn't hit kote. He hit men. Check that again.

[kigurai]

Sorry, thought I posted for the world to see before I went to sleep, but was posted as Private. Check Utube "kiguraisan"

[takuarashi]

think Chris Yang might have gotten one of the other 6 fighting spirits.

[vivi_lisalynn]

Lisa ? haha

wat is er nu weer zo grappig?!:rambo:

[Ralutin]

think Chris Yang might have gotten one of the other 6 fighting spirits.

Actually, it was his brother, Danny, who won one of the Fighting Spirit awards. Chris Yang did not make it out of the round robin matches.

[Slast]

wat is er nu weer zo grappig?!:rambo:

Nothing, just happy to see u here ;)

[RMurao]

Hey, Ryan, nice to hear from you. Are you in Brazil? Is your dad there?

Hey unfortunately me nor my dad are in Brazil but he told me to check the internet for updates asnhe is at work all week.

[Andoru]

Is it me or are the men semis and final really ugly to watch?

[honolulu yba]

You are right, Teramoto didn't hit kote. He hit men. Check that again.

Checking Ariga sensei's twitter, you are indeed correct, sir. I think I was confused because after the strike, Teramoto sensei pulled his shinai to the left side of his body instead of straight up, which looked like a kote strike. My bad.

[xvikingx]

Is it me or are the men semis and final really ugly to watch?
I agree. I thought the deciding hikimen was pants too.

[jmarsten]

I agree. I thought the deciding hikimen was pants too.

The reason the match was unlike one of Miyazaki's is that they were both trying not to lose rather than fighting to win.

[Gideon]

KW's version of the men's finals are up here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eddgitkABeE

One thing I noticed was a misspelling of Teramoto sensei's name - in red, it's written - Terayama. Still, thanks for the upload and for capturing the 'rei' at the start and conclusion of the match.

[Malek]

Has anyone seen the complete results posted? How the early rounds went and such?

Thanks,



Mal

[MikeW]

Looking at the KW youtube vid of the final, basically half of the match is spent in tsubazeriai (approx 4.25 minutes of 8.5 minutes of video).

[lexar212]

Teramoto is NOT the true champion. Disgusting shinpan. I am here with my kids, watching. Very biased towards Team Korea.
What do you all think?

Does anyone have the video from FURUZAWA (JPN) vs ????(KOR) from fridays individuals?? talk about unsportsman like for furuzawa, whether it was correct shinpan or not. NEVER seen that before.

[eon]

I agree. I thought the deciding hikimen was pants too.

Easy to say while watching a video. I guarantee either Teramoto sensei or Park sensei would put any of us to shame in shiai.

[lexar212]

Teramoto is NOT the true champion. Disgusting shinpan. I am here with my kids, watching. Very biased towards Team Korea.
What do you all think?

Does anyone have the video from FURUZAWA (JPN) vs ????(KOR) from fridays individuals?? talk about unsportsman like for furuzawa, whether it was correct shinpan or not. NEVER seen that before.:eek:

[b8amack]

Interesting.

[nebosuke]

Looking at the KW youtube vid of the final, basically half of the match is spent in tsubazeriai (approx 4.25 minutes of 8.5 minutes of video).

The KW video was edited for time, so your time numbers are not accurate. You can see one transition at about 1:10. The 2-part videos posted earlier are the full thing. It could be more or less percentage wise, I'm certainly not going to time it to find out.

[nebosuke]

Disgusting shinpan... Very biased towards Team Korea.
Is it your stance that an international panel of shimpan colluded to alter the outcome of WKC, or do you believe them all to somehow be equally, yet independently, biased in the same exact way? I'm also guessing you meant they are biased against Korea, or do you mean that not only is there a conspiracy, but that the shimpan are also incompetent at seeing it through?

[xvikingx]

Easy to say while watching a video. I guarantee either Teramoto sensei or Park sensei would put any of us to shame in shiai.
Somebody has always got to chime in with this shit, if you give your opinion on a match. Got it out of your system? Can we move on now?

[b8amack]

Is it me or are the men semis and final really ugly to watch?


The reason the match was unlike one of Miyazaki's is that they were both trying not to lose rather than fighting to win.


Yeah, but the finals always seem that way. Everyone gets cautious. I would too!


I agree. I thought the deciding hikimen was pants too.

Park was robbed of the men at around the 5:00 mark (KW vid time) it looks like, to me. I'd have to watch it in slow-mo to be sure, I guess. But that hiki men was rubbish, for sure.

[Kenshi]

But that hiki men was rubbish, for sure.

Not sure which video you watched, but there is one out there (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NctTvFqGPWM) that shows a clear hit. Your "Park was robbed" men doesn't look like anywhere near an ippon to me. I thought he had a much better hiki-men later on in the match, and I thought Termamotos men just after this (8 min mark in the above link) was clearly best strike in the entire match.

But, hey ho, as everyone knows, what we see on video and what we see when we are there (and I assume the shinpan had the best view) can sometimes be different. I don't think the fight is particularly contentious.. boring, maybe, but nothing obviously awry.

Sometimes we only see what we want to (myself included, of-course).

Its a shame it was decided by hiki-men but getting into tsubazeria was part of the (allegedly) deliberate strategy adopted by the Korean team against Japan, so hiki-waza ippon in Jpn Vs Korea fights were always a possibility. I am sure the people that were/are there will comment on this later, plus we will almost certainly have lots of video come out showing the matches, so we can observe if this is the case or not. Perhaps its a non-issue. I guess the team match will be our best chance to observe this.

At any rate, good luck to all the competitors, irregardless of nationality.

[b8amack]

Not sure which video you watched, but there is one out there (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NctTvFqGPWM) that shows a clear hit. Your "Park was robbed" men doesn't look like anywhere near an ippon to me. I thought he had a much better hiki-men later on in the match, and I thought Termamotos men just after this (8 min mark in the above link) was clearly best strike in the entire match.

But, hey ho, as everyone knows, what we see on video and what we see when we are there (and I assume the shinpan had the best view) can sometimes be different. I don't think the fight is particularly contentious.. boring, maybe, but nothing obviously awry.

Sometimes we only see what we want to (myself included, of-course).

Its a shame it was decided by hiki-men but getting into tsubazeria was part of the (allegedly) deliberate strategy adopted by the Korean team against Japan, so hiki-waza ippon in Jpn Vs Korea fights were always a possibility. I am sure the people that were/are there will comment on this later, plus we will almost certainly have lots of video come out showing the matches, so we can observe if this is the case or not. Perhaps its a non-issue. I guess the team match will be our best chance to observe this.

At any rate, good luck to all the competitors, irregardless of nationality.


Well, he hit him for sure, I just wouldn't consider it ippon.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/kenorean/hikimen.jpg
(Screenshot of the KW vid) Clearly, he did hit him, but that's a long damn way from breaking kamae.

[Kenshi]

Well, he hit him for sure, I just wouldn't consider it ippon.

Fair enough. I don't know if you've ever shinpan-ed (nor at what level), or if you've ever been to a shinpan seminar, but its not an easy job and there are lots of factors that determine an ippon. Landing on the spot, or breaking the others kamae (many competitors just jump at their opponent, completely omitting this part...) are only part of the equation. You probably know this of-course.

Use of words like "rubbish," "robbed" (someone else used the word "disgusting"), doesn't exactly seem like a level-headed, rational type of response. But hey.

[Koki]

Park raised his hands up in reaction... ===> that's not breaking kamae?

I think it's a fine ippon... just that not so many people know hikimen could hit from the side like that... seen a lot of this in japan, i believe... Nothing wrong with it.

[xvikingx]

I thought Termamotos men just after this (8 min mark in the above link) was clearly best strike in the entire match.
Ditto. I thought that should have been the winning point.

[Geordie Bruiser]

In my humble opinion it was definitely ippon to Teramoto!

I think that Park thought it was ippon also judging by his body language after the men.

[1prettygirl]

Sorry to interrupt gentlemen but here comes the ladies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qNsu7i0pvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJv7ic5JIiY

[b8amack]

Fair enough. I don't know if you've ever shinpan-ed (nor at what level), or if you've ever been to a shinpan seminar, but its not an easy job and there are lots of factors that determine an ippon. Landing on the spot, or breaking the others kamae (many competitors just jump at their opponent, completely omitting this part...) are only part of the equation. You probably know this of-course.

Use of words like "rubbish," "robbed" (someone else used the word "disgusting"), doesn't exactly seem like a level-headed, rational type of response. But hey.

I'm not suggesting they take the title away from Teramoto or anything ridiculous, I just think he didn't deserve ippon for that hit. The more I look at it, the more it seems to be wrapping around Park's tsuba, but that may be projecting on my part, there. Apart from that, I make no claim to being clear-headed about it. I was definitely rooting for the Koreans.

[Gideon]

anyone with info on the US v. Canada matches in the prelims?

[ker8270]

I am a bit dissapointed with the Judges here.

I really like Teramoto...

In fact, I did predict that he would win the individuals...



But I really don't think he was the true champion here.

I really am dissapointed here.


Felt like judges were ready to raise up their flags for anything what Teramoto does, but not for Park or Lee from semi-final. Really felt Judges were trying to PROTECT Teramoto.


Is this because most of the judges are japanese?

I mean just because Judges are Japanese, and if they wouldn't give points to other players from other countries, whats the meaning of this World Kendo Championship?

[xvikingx]

Perhaps you didn't notice but 2nd and 2 3rd place positions were held by the Koreans. I'd say they did pretty okay.

[Gideon]

Personally, I'm not following all the criticism of the officiating.

Sure, the ippon weren't as pretty as we might like (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnH2Q-nvc7U) (:47). But actual claims of bias?

Sure question why Park's second hiki men (his better one in my opinion) wasn't ippon. Ask why Teramoto's was. Reflect on it and go forward, right?

Credit to B8 to acknowledge his own bias. Perhaps he's already found and answered the real question people have... Not - why are the judges biased, but rather, why aren't the judges sharing my bias?

[xvikingx]

why aren't the judges sharing my bias?
That's brilliant. I spit up at that.

[MikeW]

The KW video was edited for time, so your time numbers are not accurate. You can see one transition at about 1:10. The 2-part videos posted earlier are the full thing. It could be more or less percentage wise, I'm certainly not going to time it to find out.

I was actually assuming that KW edited it to show more of the action not less and that the entire match would be at least the same (% wise)

[jmarsten]

The view is always clearer from the sidelines where you don't have to raise the flags.

[b8amack]

Slow-motion also helps.

[Trent]

Korea was just too good. Beat Australia fair and square. At the very least, we can hold our heads high and say that this has been our most successful campaign to date.

Well done to Korea. But it will be very interesting to see who of Japan and Korea will play in the finals.

[MikeW]

So in going through the mens final frame by frame it looks to me that the hiki men by Park was on the side of the men because Teramoto moved his head. I'm assuming that is why the shinpan did not award the pint to Park. It's difficult do be too sure due to video quality however. All in all, although Park sensei and Teramoto sensei are both great kendoka this wasn't the best WKC final match to watch by a long shot.

[Bokushingu]

I'm a newb but what i saw in the video link that mingshi posted was that the Team korea finalist at various moments in the match showed fear, doubt & confusion. Clearly Teremoto controlled that match and if not for the Hikimen would have found another way to aquire ippon.

Confusion because he couldn't figure Teremoto's timing or how he would react when threatened.
Fear because he mostly reacted with out purpose when threatened or attacked
doubt the few times he went to attack he stoped or went half speed.

when Teremoto went for the hikimen, he clearly broke Kamae (as koki stated) and was frozen for a quick moment--clearly you can see he acknowledged that he lost the moment.

both of these guys can kick my azz is less than 15 seconds -- so I can't begin to judge, but I can type what I saw be it wrong interpretation or not.

That's why i love the WKC those matches have so much to study and learn from...I will have study materials to last a year ^_^

[Jefe]

Teramoto is NOT the true champion. Disgusting shinpan. I am here with my kids, watching. Very biased towards Team Korea.
What do you all think?

Back off my friend, back off!
Shimpan made of mortal humans, not supermen. That's why they can make mistakes sometimes, sometimes not. To do good shimpan is very hard, if you tried to do shimpan before, you have to know that.

Sometimes I feel that some judgement from shimpan is not correct, however, I never assume that they are biased or cheating. Neither should you.

To me kendo is teaching to understand and accept other people's mistakes or wrong side, so I can understand my mistakes and my wrong side too. Maybe I can help them to get to the next level, or they can help me to improve, too. Without that doesn't make any sense to practice kendo.

Teramoto is the true champion of the 14th WKC, because he won the championship. Regardless you or anyone else like that or not.

[eon]

Somebody has always got to chime in with this shit, if you give your opinion on a match. Got it out of your system? Can we move on now?I just think it's hilarious when you're criticizing the best in the world. You have NO idea what it feels like to be there, no idea the kind of pressure they are under with the pride of entire nations on their shoulders. You're the Kendo equivalent of an armchair quarterback.

[Fukusho]

What are you guys talking about? Forget pressure, bias, etc. Teramoto's hiki men is literally perfect. Park broke down for a split second in tsubazeriai, decisive clean strike, zanshin. Shobu ari.

Haters.

[hammock]

USA first, Canada second in their block according to Taro's twitter.

[b8amack]

So in going through the mens final frame by frame it looks to me that the hiki men by Park was on the side of the men because Teramoto moved his head. I'm assuming that is why the shinpan did not award the pint to Park. It's difficult do be too sure due to video quality however. All in all, although Park sensei and Teramoto sensei are both great kendoka this wasn't the best WKC final match to watch by a long shot.

Yeah, that's what I saw as well. Teramoto dodged, and caught it near the temple. It's Park's (forgive me if my terminology is wrong; I learned in Korean) kaeshi-men at around the 5 minute mark that looks like it scored, to me. Clearly, Park thought so as well, afterwards.

[b8amack]

I just think it's hilarious when you're criticizing the best in the world. You have NO idea what it feels like to be there, no idea the kind of pressure they are under with the pride of entire nations on their shoulders. You're the Kendo equivalent of an armchair quarterback.

1)Who has criticized either Park or Teramoto, or any of the other athletes, in this thread? I haven't seen anyone do so.

2) What does any of that have to do with whether or not they scored a point?

3)And so?

[Jefe]

I'd suggest to not to jigsaw the crap any more. Let's get back to the original thread: 14th WKC Twitter.

[Bokushingu]

USA first, Canada second in their block according to Taro's twitter.

So the Round robins are finally complete and we start the actual tournament?

there has go to be a more real time source of info...anyone..? So is Portual completely out?

[Kaa]

ok from Taros twitter:

Portugal did not make the championships round. Taiwan and Poland comes out from court C

USA 1st Canada 2nd Advance to final rounds Brazil defeats france and advances.

[Dezza]

im watching taroariga's twitter but it is infrequent. Anyone know a more active twitter?

[hammock]

Italy took first match against Japan in the round of 16

[Dezza]

http://twitter.com/auskendotwit
Italy takes first match aginst japan in round of 16!

[Jefe]

im watching taroariga's twitter but it is infrequent. Anyone know a more active twitter?

Looks like twitter is the real cliff-hanger... :-)

[Dezza]

Looks like twitter is the real cliff-hanger... :-)

I wonder how many thousand people are currently pressing refresh on Taros twitter?

Its a damn shame the media companies aren't streaming this for a few quid. People would pay to see it.

[Jefe]

Looks like twitter is the real cliff-hanger... :-)

"It reads, "Here may be found the last words of Joseph of Aramathia. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the Castle of Aaauuuggghhh... ” "
:happy::happy::happy:

[Jefe]

I wonder how many thousand people are currently pressing refresh on Taros twitter?

Its a damn shame the media companies aren't streaming this for a few quid. People would pay to see it.

These twittering folks have my deepest respect for sending some info to us.
Maybe or own KW can figure out something for the 15th WKC...

[Fass]

does anyone, by any chance, know how Chile is doing? I have no way of knowing right now :S

[Jefe]

does anyone, by any chance, know how Chile is doing? I have no way of knowing right now :S

Chile was in the same bracket as Hungary, so I hope they got the 2nd place behind the Huns, and advanced. Hopefully...:cool:

[Jefe]

Italy takes first match aginst japan in round of 16!

But it doesn't help. JApan through.

http://twitter.com/auskendotwit

[vivi_lisalynn]

I wonder how many thousand people are currently pressing refresh on Taros twitter?

Its a damn shame the media companies aren't streaming this for a few quid. People would pay to see it.


TRUE!!!
I would do anything to be able to watch it!!!!
I want to see the final LIVE!!!!!! DAMN!!!!
I am going crazy with twitter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nervous:

[vivi_lisalynn]

Chile was in the same bracket as Hungary, so I hope they got the 2nd place behind the Huns, and advanced. Hopefully...:cool:


How do you know that Hungary is through the rounds?
Where did you see that?
I'm curious!

[Jefe]

How do you know that Hungary is through the rounds?
Where did you see that?
I'm curious!
I don't know whether they did or not, I said: "Hopefully..."

[Jefe]

14th WKC Mens Team Competition Semi Finals Brazil x USA Korea x Japan

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Dezza]

14th WKC Mens Team Competition Semi Finals Brazil x USA Korea x Japan

http://twitter.com/taroariga

Wow.. i'm astonished! :wink:

[Jefe]

Wow.. i'm astonished! :wink:
Me too. I hope twitter-caster folks send updates a bit more frequently from now on...
:wink:

[Jefe]

Aussie friends are catching up, too:

"Semi finals: japan Korea and USA brazil"

http://twitter.com/auskendotwit

[Daniel_klc]

This Twitter thing is amasing!!!

I am updating the pages every 5 seconds... :cheerful:

Cannot wait to see the results...

[dwez]

This Twitter thing is amasing!!!

I am updating the pages every 5 seconds... :cheerful:

Cannot wait to see the results...

Oh G.O.D. you're tweeting like a madman ;)

[Jefe]

Brazil loses the first three man. USA advances to finals twice in a row. Korea loses the first two man. Chuken, korea is leading

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Daniel_klc]

USA! Twice in a row...

[Jefe]

Japan loses chuken. 2 x 1 japan is leading and now takanabe x jo 0 x 0

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Dezza]

its tight as!

[NGeorge]

Once again I find myself astonished at the accomplishments of USA's Means Team

I'm very proud.

[Jefe]

Jp x kr, playing taisho match. Fukusho tied.

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Jefe]

Japan defeats korea 2 x 1. Fials between JP x USA

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Fass]

Woooow!!! Final between usa and japan!!! Rock on!!

[Daniel_klc]

Jp x kr, playing taisho match. Fukusho tied.

http://twitter.com/taroariga

If Korea wins, this is historical!!!

[Dezza]

japan through

[Jefe]

KW server looks too busy, almost couldn't get in...

[Daniel_klc]

Japan defeats korea 2 x 1. Fials between JP x USA

[Tsunemori]

Anyone has the team order from Japan?

[Bokushingu]

Awwwwwwwww we need pay per view!!!!!

[Gideon]

Anyone thinking a little payback is on the mind of the Japanese?

[Jefe]

In my opinion jp and kr level is very close. However this year jp team seems to WANT to win more than in Taiwan. They did everything to win.

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Legionario]

From Taro Ariga sensei twitter:

"In my opinion jp and kr level is very close. However this year jp team seems to WANT to win more than in Taiwan. They did everything to win."

[Daniel_klc]

IF USA, pass, this would be crazy, seriously...

[Bokushingu]

Team USA is hungry on so many levels: From the Mangers to the Interns! They Are Hungry!!

[Jefe]

Awwwwwwwww we need pay per view!!!!!

You can pay me and view what I copy/paste from Ariga sensei's twitter...:smiley::smiley::smiley:

[Jefe]

Referees for the 14WKC Team Final Match Japan x USA Shushin Vitalis Fukushin Davis, Forstreuter

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Jefe]

Japan USA in the final

http://twitter.com/auskendotwit

[Jefe]

USA Team Kawabata Yu Harada D Yang C Yang It is starting now

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Gideon]

Game on!

US Lineup
Kawabata Yu Harada D Yang C Yang

[NGeorge]

Man, i love twitter

[Gideon]

removed for tweet noobness

[Shmur]

I need it so it automatically pops up on my computer screen... i just joined and i still have to refresh!

Get a twitter client. Twhirl or tweetdeck will run on mac and windows, and are free.

[Jefe]

Shodai x kawabata. Shodai gets 2 points. Jp players. Kiwada, uchimuran, takanabe, teramoto Kiwada gets the 1st point on Yoo

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Gideon]

not looking good for the americans....

[dwez]

As much as I think the technology to tell us semi-live what's going on when you think about it how sad is it that we're being kept up-to-date on a world championships via an online text message :(

All credit to Taro Ariga and auskendotwit for keeping us informed via twitter. Note for Italy though to look into finding some way to stream this event on the internet. It's not like there isn't the technology available, it probably was even at Glasgow! Although it would have been prohibitively expensive. Hopefully the CIK will be on the ball and be well versed with all the social media/networking available and what is developed over the next 3 years to make more of a world spectacle [although hopefully I'll be there to watch, and tweet!

[Daniel_klc]

Get a twitter client. Twhirl or tweetdeck will run on mac and windows, and are free.

We are all crazy... Nothing better than the ord refresh function for me! :D

[Bokushingu]

lol i haven't used refresh this much in years! Come On Simon-Sensei Get the point Back!

[Gideon]

As much as I think the technology to tell us semi-live what's going on when you think about it how sad is it that we're being kept up-to-date on a world championships via an online text message :(

All credit to Taro Ariga and auskendotwit for keeping us informed via twitter. Note for Italy though to look into finding some way to stream this event on the internet. It's not like there isn't the technology available, it probably was even at Glasgow! Although it would have been prohibitively expensive. Hopefully the CIK will be on the ball and be well versed with all the social media/networking available and what is developed over the next 3 years to make more of a world spectacle [although hopefully I'll be there to watch, and tweet!

I've already volunteered to be KW's official tweeting representative. I fully expect a healthy travel account and spending line of credit.

[Legionario]

Shodai x kawabata. Shodai gets 2 points. Jp players. Kiwada, uchimuran, takanabe, teramoto Kiwada gets the 1st point on Yoo

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[dwez]

Fukushin - Davis. Is that Sensei Davis of the BKA? Did we get a Brit in the final afterall ;)

[Shmur]

As much as I think the technology to tell us semi-live what's going on when you think about it how sad is it that we're being kept up-to-date on a world championships via an online text message :(

All credit to Taro Ariga and auskendotwit for keeping us informed via twitter. Note for Italy though to look into finding some way to stream this event on the internet. It's not like there isn't the technology available, it probably was even at Glasgow! Although it would have been prohibitively expensive. Hopefully the CIK will be on the ball and be well versed with all the social media/networking available and what is developed over the next 3 years to make more of a world spectacle [although hopefully I'll be there to watch, and tweet!


it's probably too late now, but if anyone on site has a smartphone with a video camera, you can use Qik to live stream video from your phone to the internets. Check it out at http://qik.com/ but check your data rates. Don't want a several thousand dollar phone bill.

[Gideon]

Need update!!!!

[Daniel_klc]

USA loses the first 3 and that decides the winning of Japan. Let's see how the Yangs will fight.

Japan wins!!!

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Jefe]

USA loses the first 3 and that decides the winning of Japan. Let's see how the Yangs will fight.

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Legionario]

Need update!!!!
Here it is:

USA loses the first 3 and that decides the winning of Japan. Let's see how the Yangs will fight.

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[Gideon]

Thanks for the update, next time I expect better news!

Congrats to Japan on reclaiming the WKC title.

[Legionario]

Ahahah! Multiple messages! :wink:

[NGeorge]

Still proud USA made it to the finals. I'll live to see USA win this some day.

[Shmur]

Ouch, seems like those three matches went by really fast.

[Gideon]

I'm sure it helps that there's no encho.

[NGeorge]

I wonder how it must feel for the Japanese to reclaim their title after all this international pressure.

[burger boy]

Congratulations to Team USA for making the finals, two consecutive WKCs, well done!

Regarding Ariga Senseis last comment about "Lets see how the Yangs will fight", anyone know what he means by this? Is there a back story?

Paul

[Fonsz]

I predicted that Japan would win a few days ago. So in your face! I was right!
Whow ye of little faith!
The US team is getting awfully close......

[Gideon]

Burger - No, just that they are the only two left to go - and having already lost the overall title, itmay be interesting to see how they perform given the lack of reward at the end.

Fon - want a cookie?

[Jefe]

Cleans sweep! Japan wins 4-0.

http://twitter.com/auskendotwit

[Jefe]

Japan beats USA 4 x 0. D Yang ties. This is the end of the 14WKC. I will be uploading the best matches on youtube.

http://twitter.com/taroariga

[burger boy]

Thanks for the clarification Gideon.

Paul

[Gideon]

...who tied? d.yang...

did the US score at all?

[Geordie Bruiser]

Japan 4 USA 0

D Yang Ties

[dwez]

Well with the championship already decided they may not be so backwards in coming forwards as the pressure is off and they've nothing to win and nothing to lose. I've seen their names mentioned a few times here so I imagine they're quite good anyways, probably worth a watch. He's sending these by text, I wouldn't read too much into it.

[NGeorge]

Ariga is uploading to youtube

[Tsunemori]

Now I can go to bed. 4:15 AM!

[Jefe]

I think this is all.
Congratulations to everyone at the WKC.
Thanks to Ariga sensei and the Aussie folks for feeding us with info from WKC.
Thanks to KW for providing this nice cosy forum, and all the KW-forum fellows.
Cheers,

Jefe

[Geordie Bruiser]

I knew the Japanese would be hungry to regain their crown but DAMN!!!

4 - 0 What a performance!!!

[jmarsten]

Japan 4 - USA 0

[Gideon]

Ariga is uploading to youtube

Woot! now i get to refresh youtube!

[Daniel_klc]

I think this is all.
Congratulations to everyone at the WKC.
Thanks to Ariga sensei and the Aussie folks for feeding us with info from WKC.
Thanks to KW for providing this nice cosy forum, and all the KW-forum fellows.
Cheers,

Jefe

Definitely, Ariga sensei did a great job! Thanks to him and to KW. This whole thing finally made me join the forum.
Congratulations to all Kendoists indeed! Everyone worked hard for this I guess.


Woot! now i get to refresh youtube!

:scared: & :tired:

[Raffa]

Nobody know who whas the opponent of Mandia in Italy Vs Japan (first time i remember that an italian win a japaneese in aKWC)?

[Bokushingu]

I need a beer or two....

[Gideon]

You ok big guy?

[Fonsz]

Ouch, seems like those three matches went by really fast.
Indeed and the fact that they had a score to settle did have something to do with this I guess.
Can't wait to see it on Youtube what it looked like.
Was it rough Kendo???
I'm glad that this nerve wrecking reading of text messages of mobile phones is over. My colleague from the UK is right there should be a better way to follow this global event.

How did the UK team fare? We haven't heard a thing during this frenzy.

[nebosuke]

Let's be honest, USA coming in 2nd this time isn't the same achievement it was last time. I don't know how the brackets are decided, but if it's purely based on the previous WKC, then this could be the outcome for years to come. Maybe Canada or somebody can take USA's spot. Seems like there may need to be some other way of running WKC if anything other than first place is supposed to count for much.

[Bokushingu]

I guess I wanted it sooo much. :( but I'm still proud of them--they worked so hard through pain and made many sacrafices.

[Gideon]

I thought the draws were random and not based on previous competition's performance.

http://www.kendo-fik.org/english-page/english-page2/14WKC-Drawing-Results.html

[Dezza]

How did the UK team fare? We haven't heard a thing during this frenzy.

I heard we were knocked out by the US after the pool stage.

[Gideon]

I guess I wanted it sooo much. :( but I'm still proud of them--they worked so hard through pain and made many sacrafices.

I'll definitely raise a pint for their efforts.

[Budo Angel]

I thought the draws were random and not based on previous competition's performance

...in part they are... having sat through the drawing of a WKC - its slow & laborious, but recorded for auditing, and fairness... however, and others more knowledgeable need to step in, for the teams, there are "weightings" (do you guys say seedings ?) like tennis for example, for the top countries, like Japan, Korea and a few others, with the hosts normally recieving something in the rules to not meet the top seeds (in the first pool)

Individuals, no seeding, its random names (sticks with numbers when I sat in) - but teams, after the top seeds, is done differently... that's my humble understanding...

[Welshy]

Congrats to all who took part - especially team GB (for being british!) and team USA (for obvious reasons). Wish I'd been around to follow on twitter, getting back home and instantly finding out Japan won just isn't the same. =)

The worst bit now is waiting for the videos to appear on youtube... F5 F5 F5 F5

[Fass]

which youtube channels are you guys keeping an eye on??

[Shavanni]

I thought the draws were random and not based on previous competition's performance.

http://www.kendo-fik.org/english-page/english-page2/14WKC-Drawing-Results.html


I believe (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the top 4 from the previous WKC are seeded.
So for this year's championship, Korea, USA, Japan and Chinese Taipei were seeded and as such 2 countries from these nation's pools were permitted to advance. For everyone else only 1 country per pool advanced

[Gideon]

Thanks all for the seeding info. I thought it was a strictly random draw.

[ash_lynx]

Thanks for twittler!
Japan team won??　If it's true, I'm so happy!　All the Japanese TV is broadcasting about diet member election. I hope they say anything about Kendo championships.

[baysun]

Shodai x kawabata. Shodai gets 2 points. Jp players.

http://twitter.com/taroariga


_________________________


You know it.... That's what we been talkin! about....

ICEMAN...

Wasn't there but am sure it happened quickly!
When you are in a battle with Shoudai, YOU KNOW you have been in a FIGHT!
NO DOUBT ! I know from personal experience!


I also had the honour of doing men-uchi with him the last part of July!

[kigurai]

I was there for todays event. The Japan vs Korea match was a nailbiter. Korea has become so strong. It went down to the wire with Teramoto holding on to keep the 1 point advantage. Incredible stuff. I'll try to put it up before I leave hotel for the Sayonara party. 1 hour by taxi and tomorrows shinsa 2 hours by taxi. Hope they never have the WKC here again. Horrible.

[kigurai]

I think I counted 7 points for Japan and 0 for the USA. But maybe I was watching the video camera too much.

[kigurai]

I double checked the video and I was correct. 7 to 0

Shodai scored 2 points
Kiwada scored 2 points
Uchimura scored 1 point
Takanabe couldn't score on Brandon Harada
Teramoto scored 2 points on Chris Yang.

The kendo was bump and grind for the USA - Japan match.

Im trying to get it up now.

[baysun]

Not taking away from Kawabata; he & USA surely rose to the occasion last year defeating Japan & the USA surely did well this year to be in the finals!
Korea is Excellent; Brazil, Canada, Italy & France are thought be strong in Japan & certainly EVERYONE is well respected!

It looks like the level of kendo in the world is really high and I am sure that is the message the Japanese will return with!

[Koban]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huUP_IbjBB4

final

shodai - kawabata match

[chainz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afE0NxB4q68

This is the second match (Jiho).

Japan: D. Kiwada
USA: S. Yoo

[hamish]

For those questioning Teramoto's hiki-men in the individuals, I had a chance to look at our video footage a bit closer, and I say its a fair call. Park's shinai didn't actually make contact with Teramoto's until just after the impact, he brought it up too late. I will post video of that section alone onto our You Tube site shortly. Please decide for yourselves. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuk256iKhm4

[CH0ZEN]

Does anyone know how team Hawaii fared in the team competition?

[Tsunemori]

Does anyone know how team Hawaii fared in the team competition?
From http://twitter.com/auskendotwit

Australia, Finland and Hawaii all tied in their pools with 3 draws and 1 win each, however Australia went through by points.

[MartialArtsGirl]

Thanks all for the seeding info. I thought it was a strictly random draw.

What does "seeding" mean?

[Shavanni]

What does "seeding" mean?

Seeding is a way of ranking the teams so that the stronger teams dont play each other until that later rounds (semi finals/finals).

[a.lin]

Shodai is absolutely disgusting. Definitely the most fun-to-watch player I've seen in a while - very high energy, and strikes that leave no room for doubt.

Uchimura v. Harada is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cywfbm7ZtE4&feature=channel

In watching the first three matches, it seems to me that the JP team generally had a dominating presence; they were always pressing in, and their opponents were always backing up.

Edit: Takanabe v. D. Yang just went up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBusmfrmv-c&feature=channel

[chainz]

http://kendo.or.jp/competition/world/14wkc.html

This is from the znkr website the result from the matches
.

[Bokushingu]

http://kendo.or.jp/competition/world/14wkc.html

This is from the znkr website the result from the matches
.

anyway to get that in english? don't feel like asking my wife to read it & constantly remind me that Japan is best at Kendo in her own little subtle way.

[chainz]

well The English page has yet to be updated and there is no information on the Brazilian site
we have to wait till is up
c.yang and teramoto match is up

[Tsunemori]

Gimme 5 minutes, I'll translate that page

[Geordie Bruiser]

Just watched Senpo match.

Shodai!!! Wow that guys kendo is just unbelievable!

[Tsunemori]

Here you go
http://strawberrymilk.com.au/tsunemori/data/2009/stuff/14WKC09-MenIndiv-English.gif

[Inner_Silence]

what is "ippon gachi" ?? I saw it on the braclets.

btw, thanks for the translation but some of the names are wrong, for instance t.miranda and c.farias are chilean and it says "s.korea" and "china" but anyway...

[chainz]

cool thx tsunemori

[Fonsz]

what is "ippon gachi" ?? I saw it on the braclets.


Ippon Gachi means that the winner has won with "only" one point.

[Fusuta]

For those questioning Teramoto's hiki-men in the individuals, I had a chance to look at our video footage a bit closer, and I say its a fair call. Park's shinai didn't actually make contact with Teramoto's until just after the impact, he brought it up too late. I will post video of that section alone onto our You Tube site shortly. Please decide for yourselves. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuk256iKhm4

Many thanks for this video Hamish. This is indeed a very clear menuchi.

On watching the whole match, I could not help being slightly surprised by the attitude of Park sensei. Lowering his kamae and looking around:mad: at the shinpan, in front of Teramoto sensei still threatening in kamae, just because he thought he had scored an ippon, is something I see happening when kids fight, not pro adults. I'd say Teramoto sensei was very good-willed not to score against a defenseless opponent at that point.

Likewise, the pitiful disappointment:eek: of Park sensei after Teramoto sensei's ippon was very surprising coming from a pro. Sure, the fighters are under incredible pressure, but is this the attitude we want to see in kendo?

[Koki]

You're being too harsh...

[Tsunemori]

btw, thanks for the translation but some of the names are wrong, for instance t.miranda and c.farias are chilean and it says "s.korea" and "china" but anyway...
Ah yes, thank you for the correction. I was rushing the job. I've fixed it now. Also added the "Encho" bit.
http://strawberrymilk.com.au/tsunemori/data/2009/stuff/14WKC09-MenIndiv-English.gif

Funnily enough the official website made a mistake too, they translated "CHI" as China instead of Chile.

And yes ippon gachi means someone wins by 1-0 before the time limit.

[Wark 1978]

Just had a look at the Kendo World page on Youtube and it says that it is the 48th most visited Youtube page in Japan today! Let's try and get it into the top ten.

[Bokushingu]

hey thanks guys for the translation ^_^

[Kereo]

Where can I find the results for the women. I wanna see how my sensei did :(

And if someone can tell me how the Netherlands did in the teams that'd be great (though I sortof doubt we got very far)

[Trent]

Does anyone know if the videos from the weekend will be available for download?

[Budo Angel]

Originally Posted by chainz
http://kendo.or.jp/competition/world/14wkc.html

This is from the znkr website the result from the matches

Excellent !!! this answers all the questions how did ABC country do... totally awesome...now I can tell some folks...about the rounds, pools, etc...:ko:
.

anyway to get that in english? don't feel like asking my wife to read it & constantly remind me that Japan is best at Kendo in her own little subtle way.
...flowers, chocs, breakfast in bed, ha ha ha....:sleeping:

[Budo Angel]

Wow reading the above...Team GB (Brits) got one fight win against USA (3-1, one draw)... :bandit: do we know who won their fight in the team match ?!?

[Paburo]

not sure if it has been posted before but here are some pics:

http://www.zen.fot.br/14wkc/01/

[hamish]

Just had a look at the Kendo World page on Youtube and it says that it is the 48th most visited Youtube page in Japan today! Let's try and get it into the top ten.
And we're just getting started!!

[hamish]

Here are some miscellaneous photos from the Worlds. You can rearrange them at will, but it defaults to showing them in chronological order. You will need Silverlight installed. This is a test of what we may do more of in the future, so please let us know what you think of this kind of display.

http://deepzoompix.com/Album.aspx?alias=KendoWorld&album=1

[Dezza]

Fukushin - Davis. Is that Sensei Davis of the BKA? Did we get a Brit in the final afterall ;)

Its hard to see if it is BKA's Davis sensei....Ive tried zooming into the vid but the shinpan on the right hand side is mostly off camera. It could be him.

[Wark 1978]

And we're just getting started!!

We're now up to #43!

[1prettygirl]

http://deepzoompix.com/Album.aspx?alias=KendoWorld&album=1

My eyes hurt after that lol but I like it. Will there be more photos?

[Inner_Silence]

Here are some miscellaneous photos from the Worlds. You can rearrange them at will, but it defaults to showing them in chronological order. You will need Silverlight installed. This is a test of what we may do more of in the future, so please let us know what you think of this kind of display.

http://deepzoompix.com/Album.aspx?alias=KendoWorld&album=1

the world is quite small, you have pictures of Shio sensei, he teaches here in Chile. Ive been under his guidance and his shinai for about a year now

[Shmur]

not sure if it has been posted before but here are some pics:

http://www.zen.fot.br/14wkc/01/

Very cool, I'm going to have some new desktop backgrounds at work. In color no less!

[Wark 1978]

We're now up to #43!

Now we're at #35!

[Kendoka]

Ah yes, thank you for the correction. I was rushing the job. I've fixed it now. Also added the "Encho" bit.
http://strawberrymilk.com.au/tsunemori/data/2009/stuff/14WKC09-MenIndiv-English.gif

Funnily enough the official website made a mistake too, they translated "CHI" as China instead of Chile.

And yes ippon gachi means someone wins by 1-0 before the time limit.

Should see how confused they get with "Australia" and "Austria". Just to help, we once gave the Austrians some kangaroo pins!!

[Hisham]

For those questioning Teramoto's hiki-men in the individuals, I had a chance to look at our video footage a bit closer, and I say its a fair call. Park's shinai didn't actually make contact with Teramoto's until just after the impact, he brought it up too late. I will post video of that section alone onto our You Tube site shortly. Please decide for yourselves. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuk256iKhm4

Thanks for the slo-mo Hamish, can you please include them in the next WKC vids you'll be posting on your site.

[Paburo]

Here are some miscellaneous photos from the Worlds. You can rearrange them at will, but it defaults to showing them in chronological order. You will need Silverlight installed. This is a test of what we may do more of in the future, so please let us know what you think of this kind of display.

http://deepzoompix.com/Album.aspx?alias=KendoWorld&album=1

there's no way around this mocosoft app thing? i'm one of those comp users at work who don't happen to have admin priviledges in order to install software.... arghh

[Gideon]

has anyone found any video of the Jp v. Kor matches?

[Hisham]

there's no way around this mocosoft app thing? i'm one of those comp users at work who don't happen to have admin priviledges in order to install software.... arghh


hehehe same here, will have to check it out at home.

[CH0ZEN]

From http://twitter.com/auskendotwit

Australia, Finland and Hawaii all tied in their pools with 3 draws and 1 win each, however Australia went through by points.

Tsuenemori, thanks for the update and for the twitter link. I was desparately searching Ariga sensei's twitter link for any information but, understandbly, he seemed pretty focused on the finalists.

[Shmur]

From http://twitter.com/auskendotwit

Australia, Finland and Hawaii all tied in their pools with 3 draws and 1 win each, however Australia went through by points.

Very interesting, I knew that the Hawaii Kendo Federation was separate from the AUSKF, but I didn't realize that also extended to having their own team for the World Championships.

[Budo Angel]

Believe this is due to the fact Hawaii's federation is much older than the USA one, so they can pitch a separate team at WKC events...the most inspiring guy I saw was Henry in the WKC 1997 Kyoto...real fast kote from underneath...

[jmarsten]

Believe this is due to the fact Hawaii's federation is much older than the USA one, so they can pitch a separate team at WKC events...the most inspiring guy I saw was Henry in the WKC 1997 Kyoto...real fast kote from underneath...

I wouldn't say that the Hawaii federation is much older than the mainland federation. Actually I think they are the same age, circa 1970. When the FIK was formed there were only 16 prospective members, one of which was Hawaii which was many hours from the mainland US and had a long tradition of kendo. Due to several GOB problems and the fact that numbers were important and Hawaii had a strong kendo team (see early results of WKC's) they joined as a separate entity as well as Okinawa. About 2000 there was a discussion at the FIK board meeting about Hawaii and a couple of others and they were grandfathered in to remain as separate members.
When and if HKF changes their collective mind and AUSKF agrees they may become part of the whole. The other thing that could happen is that the current or future FIK directors and General Assembly could decide to end the membership of Macao/Hong Kong/Hawaii and any other federation that fall into this catagory.

[dwez]

Bring on the Cornwall Kendo Federation, dreckly!

[Malek]

I wouldn't say that the Hawaii federation is much older than the mainland federation. Actually I think they are the same age, circa 1970. When the FIK was formed there were only 16 prospective members, one of which was Hawaii which was many hours from the mainland US and had a long tradition of kendo. Due to several GOB problems and the fact that numbers were important and Hawaii had a strong kendo team (see early results of WKC's) they joined as a separate entity as well as Okinawa.


The Hawaii Kendo Federation has a bit of a different story. I'm sure Aloho Pride plays a part, but the abbreviated history can be found here: http://www.hawaiikendo.com/history.html

Basically, the HKF was formed in 1947 and renamed in 1955. Joined AJKF in 1959, became independent in 1972 and joined IKF in 1988. Dr. Jinichi Tokeshi goes into more detail in his book "Kendo: Elements, Rules and Philosophy"

At least, that's the story here. :cheerful:



Mal

[Legionario]

I have linked in this thread all the clips available by now:

http://www.kendo-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27

[The great I AM]

Wow reading the above...Team GB (Brits) got one fight win against USA (3-1, one draw)... :bandit: do we know who won their fight in the team match ?!?Er.........

[Fonsz]

Er.........
That's my boy! How did you fare in the individuals?

[The great I AM]

That's my boy! How did you fare in the individuals?Very, VERY, badly. To keep it succinct, I was shit.

[Fonsz]

Very, VERY, badly. To keep it succinct, I was shit.
Sorry I asked I trust that the lessons (eventually) learned will enhance your progress.