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Raffa
27th October 2009, 05:25 PM
This thread is born from a post related to Shinkage Ryu gasshi-uchi.
Is interesting that the most famous sword ryu have all as foundamental technique a "one cut one kill" one.
It seems to me that maybe this is the very big difference between japaneese and occidental swordmanship
If i am not wrong Itto ryu has "kiri-otoshi", kashima shinto ryu has itotsu tachi which follow a similar principle.
What do you think about this?
Do you know other ryu's similar technique?

ScottUK
28th October 2009, 12:04 AM
Hyoho Niten Ichi-ryu - good ol' shomenuchi (and all the variants that follow).

I am looking forwards to Alex's input on this. Jigen-ryu seems to destroy the opponent with about fifty cuts until uchidachi can't defend any more. Aggressive.

Josh Reyer
28th October 2009, 01:19 AM
I don't know that Shinkage-ryu's gasshi-uchi could really be classified as a "one cut one kill" technique. For one, in every kata it appears in, it is followed up by further attacks. It is one thing to do it with fukuro-shinai; with shinken it would be a low-percentage technique, with virtually no room for error. Quite out of character for Shinkage-ryu's simple, pragmatic and utilitarian approach. Rather, gasshi-uchi is more like taking Shinkage-ryu's essential gokui and stress testing it to the maximum degree of difficulty. As a matter of fact, gasshi-uchi is in all likelihood an Edo Period innovation, at a time when the headmasters had the luxury to experiment with more abstract "principle-based" training.

Wesley Myers
28th October 2009, 02:05 AM
I think the concept of 'one cut, one kill' is the ultimate goal you strive towards. This is also reflected in trying to hit the perfect ippon men in Kendo.

Raffa
27th November 2009, 04:49 PM
I tryed to do something similar to this with a dojo mate who is training himself in jodan. As my seme induces a katate men from him, i tryed to cut big men as straigth as i can. It doesn't work too much, but the few ippon that i made were extremely satisfying........i feel my attack "cutting" throught that of my aite...wonderfull sensation!