Reason :P

[Smokeblender]

Well, the reason there are so many anti-american posts here is a simple one I think. For the last 4 years that monkey which you call president has made alot of people angry with his foreign policies. So do us all a favor and dont vote for him in the next election, or this will grow even more :P

[xvikingx]

Wow, only 3 post and you are already starting shit. I don't bring my politics (which are quite anti-Bush for the record) to a kendo forum or any forum for that matter. Why? Because it will just be one giant fight with no resolution. You have pissed me off thoroughly. Do us all a favor and don't tell the American people how to vote.

[Hattori Hanzo]

Ancient Indian Proverb:

(sure some people will be offended)

Fighting on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded.

[Smokeblender]

Wow, only 3 post and you are already starting shit. I don't bring my politics (which are quite anti-Bush for the record) to a kendo forum or any forum for that matter. Why? Because it will just be one giant fight with no resolution. You have pissed me off thoroughly. Do us all a favor and don't tell the American people how to vote.

1. Im not trying to start a fight, im only stating a fact.

2. This is my third post, and on a board called flames if you didnt know. As you can see in my other posts i did not talk about politics, why ? Cause they were on other boards with other subjects.

3. I've pissed you off ? Good to know.

4. Do you a favor and not tell you who to vote for ? What ? You scared that someone will cast their vote based on my wanting, cause im not american and you don't like foreigners ?

[Onara]

1. What ? You scared that someone will cast their vote based on my wanting, ?
Unlikely:tired:

[Smokeblender]

Unlikely:tired:

Yes... thats what I think... :evolved:

[LNGUYEN]

Hey Smokeblender,
Don't you like American because of your own thought or because you listened to the Monkeys which you called your Politicians? If I am the American President, I will attack anywhere to secure my country.

So how much effort do your country provide for international peace and security? What have you done for American to make you feel that you are qualify to criticize the American and Its president?

[Smokeblender]

Hey Smokeblender,
Don't you like American because of your own thought or because you listened to the Monkeys which you called your Politicians? If I am the American President, I will attack anywhere to secure my country.

So how much effort do your country provide for international peace and security? What have you done for American to make you feel that you are qualify to criticize the American and Its president?
1. I never said i didnt like America (look at my posts... now think. I never said I hated america or american, but you said I did, why are you so defencive ? Why are you making a problem out of this?).

2. Yeah, well... attacking first and asking the questions later looks like the american way. You would attack any country that would pose a threat, thats what you said. Thats how wars are made. Lets take for example, the war against terrorism. It started 9/11. You were attacked, then you attacked back. Now its called a war. Now you attacked Irak, do you really think that that makes you more secure. If anything, your country is less secure now than before the attack. So go ahead, attack anyone you want, your digging your own grave.

3. My country does not provide any internmational peace, we dont have an army. But what we do, is more in the line of biochemistry, and we are one of the top nations in this field.

4. What have I done for america that makes me feel I can criticize you ? I've done nothing for your country. But that dosent take away my right to speak my mind. If you think you just because you are american you cant be criticized, your wrong. Thats one of the biggest problems in your nation, its to cocky.

[DanielH]

1. I never said i didnt like America (look at my posts... now think. I never said I hated america or american, but you said I did, why are you so defencive ? Why are you making a problem out of this?). (To LNG)
- Okay LNGUYEN never said that you don't like America BUT and you tell him that but what about this?

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4. Do you a favor and not tell you who to vote for ? What ? You scared that someone will cast their vote based on my wanting, cause im not american and you don't like foreigners ? (To Viking)
- Viking never said he doesn't like foreigners, got it?

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2. Yeah, well... attacking first and asking the questions later looks like the american way. You would attack any country that would pose a threat, thats what you said. Thats how wars are made. Lets take for example, the war against terrorism. It started 9/11. You were attacked, then you attacked back. Now its called a war. Now you attacked Irak, do you really think that that makes you more secure. If anything, your country is less secure now than before the attack. So go ahead, attack anyone you want, your digging your own grave.
- So attacking before asking questions is exclusive to us Americans? I'm sure that is how a lot of wars have started... why not go read a history book (one that wasn't written by your facist country () before saying something like that. Oh, and don't make me start with conspiracy theories.

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3. I've pissed you off ? Good to know.
- So we have another troll now?

Oh, by the way... what country are you from, and how old are you?
I could have added more stuff but I think this is suffecient for now.

[Shiro]

Smokeblender was only stating a reason why there is so much criticism about America, he wasn't insulting (except to Bush off course :p) to anyone.

I don't want to start any discussion, but we have the right to think your president sucks. In Europe being against Bush isn't even political anymore it's just common sense! And don't bring up Tony Blair, even his own party wants him out......
You criticized and sometimes insulted my country (Belgium) and other countries and you expect us to shut up? I don't think so.

You have the right to admire your president, I don't have anything to say about that. But we have the right to hate him.

I don't want to start another argument about why I hate him and why he should be jailed, you wouldn't believe me anyway (I tried with Onara, I don't think he really appreciates me now...... :D anyway, Onara, nothing personal).

You love him, we hate him. There isn't a lot of chances we can change your minds on this forum and there isn't a lot of chances you can change our minds. I don't want to tell you who to vote for, I just want you to inform yourselves about the candidates and pick the one that's right for you.

[Smokeblender]

My country is a fasist coutnry ? Wow, Im not even going to answer your posts anymore. Not because im insulted ( Im not), because thats the dumbest thing I have read so far on this board. Until you come up with a fact that my contry is a fasist country (which you will not, you dont know anything about my country, and dont say I dont know nothing about your contry, cause I do, I once even lived there) your posts will be crap in my eyes.

[DanielH]

Wow, I'm assuming you don't know what sarcasm is? Besides, there was a ";)" inside the parantheses next to it that I accidently deleted (was moving stuff around and deleted some stuff). Like I said, don't get me started with conspiracies or else I will give you a TON of things that can make your country look facist/communistic/etc... it's easy to do with most every country. Oh... and what makes you think I don't know anything about Iceland? Maybe I lived there too? You don't know, for all you know I could have just moved to the US last week.

Shiro: I don't mind that you think that, don't really care either. It's your choice, doesn't make me think any less or more of you. (By the way I'm pro-Bush)

[Shiro]

Ancient Indian Proverb:

(sure some people will be offended)

Fighting on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded.

I love that quote :D

Shiro: I don't mind that you think that, don't really care either. It's your choice, doesn't make me think any less or more of you. (By the way I'm pro-Bush)

At least you've got a healthy attitude about it.

European folks definitely have a different political culture than US folks. Our politicians get a lot more critcs about there work (even in their own country). So don't interpret it like anti-americanism or something, it's just that we can't shut up when something isn't pleasing us.... :D And ok, it's your country, but your politics have such an influence worldwide that we should have the right to say what we think.

[xvikingx]

I leave for one day and look at all this. HHhhmmm.. not much more for me to add. Accept... DICK! -> smokeblender You just don't get it do you? I wouldn't expect much from someone as close minded as you anyways.

[Smokeblender]

I leave for one day and look at all this. HHhhmmm.. not much more for me to add. Accept... DICK! -> smokeblender You just don't get it do you? I wouldn't expect much from someone as close minded as you anyways.
Hahaha, what dont I get ? Tell me ?

[Smokeblender]

Its amazing to read your posts really, they fill me with you. Maybe I shoulnt be happy, but when you post your dislike of me, I get happy :D So please, continue, your anger fuels me smile :D

[Smokeblender]

wtf. that didnt come out right... let me write that again, the things you do when you are to hasty.

#2:

Its amazing to read your posts really, they fill me with happines. Maybe I shoulnt be happy, but when you post your dislike of me, I get happy :D So please, continue, your anger fuels me smile :D

There, hope you get even more offended.

To the others, yeah, well, I hope some of you see that this thread was opened for normal debate on the matter, not name callings (exept maybe for Bush, but hey, its a trend).

[xvikingx]

Now if I did that I couldn't play "high and mighty". he he he.... Bush: part II has got two good Norse lads bickering over nothing. Hail to the chimp.

[Smokeblender]

Ok, lets just stop this rumbling. If you didnt know before, ill say it again. I dont have anything againt Americans, I lived in amerca once and it was a great time. My grandfather is American and I visit the stats almost every year. I dont have anything against the people at all. But I have an opinion on the government, as do almost all of you. Since there is alot of anti-american posts on this forum, I wanted to point out to you that msot of the people on this forum are not anti-american, rather anti-americangovernment, but show it as anti-american. I just wanted to point this fact out. Then alot of people get angry :ogre: , thinking this is just another anti american-post... well read again.

[LNGUYEN]

Look at what happened in WWII, your European didn't want to attack Germany because it didn't attack you. Right, and when it attacked European countries, your guys got nothing even an army to defend yourselves. Your narrow mind thinking about peace and harmony, go to Mars, live up there and nobody to touch you. Do you think if France didn't invest ton of money into Iraq, would it oppose the invasion? Don't you know that the best defense tactic is attack first? this philosophy is around for many thousand years, primitive people in the old time regconized it and you don't, ha ha ha. Wake up you live in the dream world. My question is if those Monkeys in your country which you call your president and all support the war, would you think otherwise?

[Shiro]

Look at what happened in WWII, your European didn't want to attack Germany because it didn't attack you. Right, and when it attacked European countries, your guys got nothing even an army to defend yourselves. Your narrow mind thinking about peace and harmony, go to Mars, live up there and nobody to touch you. Do you think if France didn't invest ton of money into Iraq, would it oppose the invasion? Don't you know that the best defense tactic is attack first? this philosophy is around for many thousand years, primitive people in the old time regconized it and you don't, ha ha ha. Wake up you live in the dream world. My question is if those Monkeys in your country which you call your president and all support the war, would you think otherwise?

Your argument is weak. If you look more closely, you would have seen we had signed pacts of non-agression with Germany before WWII, Hitler didn't respect them. On the other hands, yes, we didn't want to go to war because we just came out of a war (WWI, 1914-1918) that left Central Europe in ruins.
We were against this war because there was absolutely no evidence that Iraq was a threat to you. Where are the weapons of mass destruction?
If the weapon inspectors had found something and that there were really Iraqi plans to harm the US we would have backed you and even helped you.

"the best defense tactic is (you forgot to :p) attack first"
If there really is a reason, this is indeed a good tactic......

[xvikingx]

Ok, lets just stop this rumbling. If you didnt know before, ill say it again. I dont have anything againt Americans, I lived in amerca once and it was a great time. My grandfather is American and I visit the stats almost every year. I dont have anything against the people at all. But I have an opinion on the government, as do almost all of you. Since there is alot of anti-american posts on this forum, I wanted to point out to you that msot of the people on this forum are not anti-american, rather anti-americangovernment, but show it as anti-american. I just wanted to point this fact out. Then alot of people get angry :ogre: , thinking this is just another anti american-post... well read again.

That's what I like about you; prompt replies. You don't keep me hanging on over here on the other side of the globe.
Hey, I never said anything about anit-Americanism. :confused: Or disliking you.. Or hating foreigners for that matter. Where did that one come from?
Anyways, I said what I wanted to say. Lets squash this shit.

[LNGUYEN]

If Iraq is not a threat then so Osama. If you finance terrorist, support them and encourage them to attack America, reward those suicide bombers, attack your neighbor anytime you want, killing people, what else do you want to know, and if all those didn't make you a threat of America, specifically, and the World, generally, then Osama is a saint. I don't care about WMD, those above reason is WMD enough for me. To me, Iraq is the source of problem, not the weapon we are aiming for.

[Smokeblender]

LNGUYEN, i just love it when people speak before thinking, think they know
but dont know. You should read Sokrates, you could learn alot from him.

1. Anyway, yes, we didnt attack with our own people in WWII cause at the time, we were under the DANISH king, we were not a republic(Maybe you should have read up first) and didnt have anything to say on the matter. After Germany got the Danes we finally got independence.

2. What we gave instead of military force (at the time the population was about 200.000, not much to make an army out of + we just got our independence and needed to build up our repuplic-system) we provided the british and americans forces critical posisiong for a part of their airforce and missile launchers. Because of the position of the island, it was very critical in the second world war. Thats why the Americans built a big airbase here (which is still here, and they use, but thankfully they are packing their bags). So dont say, that we (200.000 people) didnt do our job, there wasent much else we could do.

3. "Your narrow mind thinking about peace and harmony, go to Mars, live up there and nobody to touch you."
Thats precisely whats wrong with the world, people like you (disclaimer: Not talking about americans in general, only this one) are whats wrong with this world. If people like you didnt exist here would be much more peace in the world.

4. I woulnt matter if the president of my country was a monkey, the president dosent hold any power at all. Its in the prime ministers and the foreign ministers hands... Would I support the war if my government supported it ? Guess what Sherlock... the government did. Even if 95% of the nation was against it, the foreign minister declaired Iceland Pro war. This was done in Denmark also, where about 80% where against the war.
But the question is, did I support the war because my government did ?
Answer: No, I try to make up my own mind. I look into the facts, always, no matter what, then I take a decision open minded, thinking about all sides of the matter.

5. "The best defense tactic is attack first"- Well... let time be the judge of that.

[LNGUYEN]

Lets go to the Pub, have a few beer and continue this interesting nothing to do with my life discussion

[Smokeblender]

Ok, Im stopping now, I've spoekn my mind, some people like it, some dont. We all have one thing in common at least, Kendo. Tho this flame board offers an oppertunity to debate about politics and related stuff, lets not make each other that mad that we can't socialize on other boards on this forum, the Kendo ones.

So here goes,

LNGUYEN: Though I do not like you opinion of this matter, I respect it. I may not have shown it in past posts, even shown a bit hostilty, I dont know, lets not let this feud (which I want to end) to spread to the rest of the forums.

Viking and the others: Yeah, I think the best Idié is to stop this, even to destroy this thread. What I didnt take into account was, that people differ from country to country, I tend to do this alot, so Im sorry if I have upset you all by making this thread.

[Shiro]

If Iraq is not a threat then so Osama. If you finance terrorist, support them and encourage them to attack America, reward those suicide bombers, attack your neighbor anytime you want, killing people, what else do you want to know, and if all those didn't make you a threat of America, specifically, and the World, generally, then Osama is a saint. I don't care about WMD, those above reason is WMD enough for me. To me, Iraq is the source of problem, not the weapon we are aiming for.

And now for something completely different....... :d

[DanielH]

Smoke: I'm sorry I called your country facist, it was intended as a joke but the ;) next to it got taken out by accident so it came out wrong. You have a right to your opinion and so do I. So... basically... sorry? :)

[Smokeblender]

Smoke: I'm sorry I called your country facist, it was intended as a joke but the ;) next to it got taken out by accident so it came out wrong. You have a right to your opinion and so do I. So... basically... sorry? :)

yeah, no problemo :smiley:

[Katsuya]

Look at what happened in WWII, your European didn't want to attack Germany because it didn't attack you. Right, and when it attacked European countries, your guys got nothing even an army to defend yourselves. Your narrow mind thinking about peace and harmony, go to Mars, live up there and nobody to touch you. Do you think if France didn't invest ton of money into Iraq, would it oppose the invasion? Don't you know that the best defense tactic is attack first? this philosophy is around for many thousand years, primitive people in the old time regconized it and you don't, ha ha ha. Wake up you live in the dream world. My question is if those Monkeys in your country which you call your president and all support the war, would you think otherwise?

dude....smokebladder, i think lnguyen has a point and also, keep your "anti-american" shit to yourselve cuz you're doing nothing great. America was made by a group of courages people that believed in freedom and till this day we still live with freedom flowing through us . So enough of politics, lets get back to kendo.

[xvikingx]

dude....smokebladder, i think lnguyen has a point and also, keep your "anti-american" shit to yourselve cuz you're doing nothing great. America was made by a group of courages people that believed in freedom and till this day we still live with freedom flowing through us . So enough of politics, lets get back to kendo.
Let's get back to kendo?! Katsuya you dumbass, this thread was dead until you came and posted! Did you bother reading any of smokeblender's posts or did you just sort through lnguyen's jibberish and then came up with your stunningly patriotic reply?