Kendo and Kumdo at the same time?

[GaryHe]

Hello,

I would like anyone's input on this. I know that at least one of my sensei is a member of this board (and I have already told him), and maybe some of my dojomates roam around. But please, all input is welcome, I am a little troubled by this.

I am trying to train as much as I can for as long as I still have the time (before college). I have Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday scheduled with practice at SCKF dojos, but the nearest dojo to my house on Wednesdays is half an hour away, something I just can't do on a school night. However, near my house there is a Korean dojo (which I observed practice at today) that practices on Wednesdays. One of my senseis used to practice there. I asked if I could practice on Wednesdays and they said yes, I was welcome to.

I am worried this is not an appropriate thing to do, practicing outside of your federation. Although I am aware of some politics in Kendo, it really is not my concern, unless doing this will anger anybody. Honestly, I just want to practice. From what I've observed, it's exactly the same thing except they count in Korean and they don't have sonkyo. Even if I could only do jigeiko for 10 minutes I would still practice, definetely. I think this could only help my Kendo.

So, what do you guys think? I really just want to practice Kendo!

[JSchmidt]

Go practice. Ignore the politics

[R A Sosnowski]

I quite agree with JSchmidt: go practice.

Keep in mind that there are slight differences between practices in a Japanese Dojo and a Korean Dojang. Be careful not to mix them up, and you should be fine.

[Hai_hai]

You could do your homework that night.

[justforkendo]

If your welcome go.
If your worried dont tell anyone.
I trained at a korean dojo for the extra training it was great.
Be warned, they love suburi.

[Old Warrior]

I train at a Kumdo Dojang. Everyone is welcome and there is no hint of politics associated with anything we do. We have guests all the time from Dojo's and they are introduced with respect and they have no trouble fitting into the routine. In most classes, I am the only non Korean speaker and I still have difficulty, after a year and a half, understanding everything. I just look out of the corner of my eye and pick it up from what I see. Also, the head Master, despite his rigid background has a sense of humor and is a gentleman.

There are nut cases of every persuasion. I have no idea of what strange ideas run through the minds of "small" people. All I can say is that we learn quality Kendo, they call it Kumdo and nobody cares where you or your ancestors came from.

[Karaken]

Hello,

I would like anyone's input on this. I know that at least one of my sensei is a member of this board (and I have already told him), and maybe some of my dojomates roam around. But please, all input is welcome, I am a little troubled by this.

I am trying to train as much as I can for as long as I still have the time (before college). I have Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday scheduled with practice at SCKF dojos, but the nearest dojo to my house on Wednesdays is half an hour away, something I just can't do on a school night. However, near my house there is a Korean dojo (which I observed practice at today) that practices on Wednesdays. One of my senseis used to practice there. I asked if I could practice on Wednesdays and they said yes, I was welcome to.

I am worried this is not an appropriate thing to do, practicing outside of your federation. Although I am aware of some politics in Kendo, it really is not my concern, unless doing this will anger anybody. Honestly, I just want to practice. From what I've observed, it's exactly the same thing except they count in Korean and they don't have sonkyo. Even if I could only do jigeiko for 10 minutes I would still practice, definetely. I think this could only help my Kendo.

So, what do you guys think? I really just want to practice Kendo!

I go both places and enjoy them both..

Center

[Kozushi]

Remember that the Japanese Kendo Federation is doing it's very best to exterminate all the old Kenjutsu schools!
If anyone belongs to an old Kenjutsu school, then that person is banned from participating in Kendo!
GO FIGURE!
Disgusting eh?!
So #^&* the politics!

[DanDan]

^r u serious? that's so stupid....

anyways...yea...kendo and kumdo are a little bit different...i wish i could still do kumdo but i have to settle for kendo since th nearest kumdo dojang is 2 hrs away...as opposed to 1/2 hr to a kendo dojo.

i've noticed the ettiquette and methods are slightly different...but maybe it's just my dojang...just try not to mix it up. not that it'll b a big problem if u mess up a few times.

[Wout]

^r u serious? that's so stupid....

anyways...yea...kendo and kumdo are a little bit different...i wish i could still do kumdo but i have to settle for kendo since th nearest kumdo dojang is 2 hrs away...as opposed to 1/2 hr to a kendo dojo.

i've noticed the ettiquette and methods are slightly different...but maybe it's just my dojang...just try not to mix it up. not that it'll b a big problem if u mess up a few times.

what's wrong with kendo?

[DanDan]

^nothing's wrong wl kendo. it's just that i started out w/ kumdo and it's in my native language (Korean)...i think my parents would also prefer that i did kumdo but i really have no choice....unless i were to quit altogether

[DCPan]

Remember that the Japanese Kendo Federation is doing it's very best to exterminate all the old Kenjutsu schools!
If anyone belongs to an old Kenjutsu school, then that person is banned from participating in Kendo!
GO FIGURE!
Disgusting eh?!
So #^&* the politics!

I find that hard to believe.

Several prominent koryu practitioners are very high ranked in Kendo as well.

What is your source of information?

If anything, the exclusivity of transmission in a classic tradition is doing a much better job of exterminating themselves than anything the kendo federation could do to them.

Have you noticed that many old styles are revealing sections of previously hidden curriculum only available to the succesor to a more general audience? Keeps the art from dying out.

FWIW.

[Hyaku]

Remember that the Japanese Kendo Federation is doing it's very best to exterminate all the old Kenjutsu schools!
If anyone belongs to an old Kenjutsu school, then that person is banned from participating in Kendo!
GO FIGURE!
Disgusting eh?!
So #^&* the politics!

I would have to disagree with you on that having a rather deep connection is this respect.

Zen Ken Ren is strongly connected to Nippon Budokan. The Nihon Kobudo Kyokai is also. When we I do Kenjutsu seminars, invitations generaly come to me from other country's Kendo associations. In actual fact many Kobudo Ryu fall under the umbrella of Nippon Budokan. Its not that they have to, but when it comes to associations this is the prefered respected route.

I know of many Ryu that also teach Kendo in the same dojo. But I would stress that they are done seperately and few people do both. They should not be mixed or confused but clearly separated.

[kusunoki1209]

I'm japanese but live in america and am sort of nationalistic so to speak. So I wouldn't train with a korean sensei or train in kumdo. BUt it's all personal, especially if you're not japanese do whatever you want. If you're japanese I'd say not to, or that you ought to think about it.

[Paikea]

I'm japanese but live in america and am sort of nationalistic so to speak. So I wouldn't train with a korean sensei or train in kumdo. BUt it's all personal, especially if you're not japanese do whatever you want. If you're japanese I'd say not to, or that you ought to think about it.Whoa...that's a really sad and disturbing statement. You wouldn't train with a hypothetical sensei because he/she is Korean? Who else isn't eligible because of where they were born?

There's another word for that, and it's not nationalism.

[Ishii]

.. I asked if I could practice on Wednesdays and they said yes, I was welcome to...

...I really just want to practice Kendo!Go and practice and don't care about politics or nationality.

[Hisham]

Hello,

I would like anyone's input on this. I know that at least one of my sensei is a member of this board (and I have already told him), and maybe some of my dojomates roam around. But please, all input is welcome, I am a little troubled by this.

I am trying to train as much as I can for as long as I still have the time (before college). I have Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday scheduled with practice at SCKF dojos, but the nearest dojo to my house on Wednesdays is half an hour away, something I just can't do on a school night. However, near my house there is a Korean dojo (which I observed practice at today) that practices on Wednesdays. One of my senseis used to practice there. I asked if I could practice on Wednesdays and they said yes, I was welcome to.

I am worried this is not an appropriate thing to do, practicing outside of your federation. Although I am aware of some politics in Kendo, it really is not my concern, unless doing this will anger anybody. Honestly, I just want to practice. From what I've observed, it's exactly the same thing except they count in Korean and they don't have sonkyo.


If i was in your shoes i would ve done the same especially that it s one time every week.I say go for it with a peacefull mind! as far as dirty politics go, leave that to power greedy and "nationalist" people .