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tweetyness
11-02-2004, 09:41 AM
do people usually get big bruises on their wrists through the kote? any way to prevent it?
Hattori Hanzo
11-02-2004, 09:45 AM
Sounds like worn Kote, or heavy handed Kendoka, then again that is guessing not in bogu yet hehe
Andoy
11-02-2004, 10:49 AM
do people usually get big bruises on their wrists through the kote? any way to prevent it?
85% of the time, No. Usually it's due to a thin kote, maybe it's too old. What i would do is wear a wrist band underneath(although you're not allowed to wear them in taikais)....but the best way to prevent it is by NOT GETTING HIT!
Plus I wouldn't risk training until the bruise has healed properly. A friend of mine kept training on a heavily bruised right wrist then when he got hit in the same spot, his wrist fractured(hairline).
xvikingx
11-02-2004, 10:57 AM
It may just be a heavy hitter though. This one guy I trained with used to ruin my right hand. Although I don't have very good kote, this problem only happened with that one guy. I just took up seigan from then on.
Caleb
11-02-2004, 11:07 AM
If your sensei says its alright, invest in a kids junior size soccer shin pad. The ones that the 3/4 year olds wear. They only cost a few bucks, but they fit perfectly under the kote, and you wont have any pain issues. The open elbow is another story :smiley:
twotoedgiraffe
11-02-2004, 11:57 AM
I use to get all sorts of bruises when I first started out in kendo. You just have to get a wrist support at any sports goods shop. The one I got basically has a hole through for the thumb, the rest wraps around the wrist a few times to form a cushion. It still hurts when someone misses and hits too high or low on the wrist, but at least I stopped wincing everytime someone hit my kote
emitbrownne
11-02-2004, 08:51 PM
I am often called soft for using a kid's shinpad for a wrist protector, but the way I look at it is ....
Kote and Bogu in general were designed so that you could train without getting injured. If you get bruises through your kote.. then re-enforce with extra armour.
If you still feel too much of a whack... then pull your wrist away and see if your oponent has good tenouchi... if they cut to the floor then they dont :)
If they cut well but hard...ask them to soften the wrist hits, there is no point in you being injured just to look matcho
Paulo
George Brown
11-02-2004, 08:59 PM
Is the Kote too tight?
It should be worn relatively loosely to allow the impact to dissipate. If it's too tight then the impact will be transfrerred straight through to your wrist.
Also - as someone else has suggested (as in Kata number two) - move the kote at the moment of attack (if the opportunity presents itself) - see is they hit the floor!
...........and then attack MEN!
Musha
11-02-2004, 10:00 PM
If your sensei says its all right, invest in a kids junior size soccer shin pad. The ones that the 3/4 year olds wear.
Kote and Bogu in general were designed so that you could train without getting injured. If you get bruises through your kote.. then re-enforce with extra armour.
Ever since I started kendo I have seen people using extra protection under there bougu. It comes to mind a scene in 'Back to the future 3' when Biff says to Martys great great great grand farther that is wearing braces and a belt!. 'He doesn’t even trust his own pants' :P.
Bougu was not invented for comfort, almost all sports protection is there for the one perpouse of protecting you from serious damage. I played rugby and baseball in a team for a wile. If you have ever been stamped on by spiked shoes or catches a hard baseball ball in the wrong way you will know why you need the protection :D. Kendo is not supposed to be a laid back pleasant activity like fishing or landscape painting.
It is a combat budo that is supposed to partially simulate actual combat so you should be able to at least feel the cuts to some extent...
I know for some people they need things to help support there muscles, people even have them in tournaments, but all you should need for kendo is:-
Men, Kote, Tare, Tenugui, Shinai keiko-gi hakama and bokken :wink:.
One more thing if you ever have the chance to meet a Aikido dan grade ask him or her to do Nikiyo on you and you will know what pain in your wrist feels like... feels like your wrist is on fire!! :D.
mystic_kendoka
12-02-2004, 04:41 AM
i now have one big line on my arm and a couple bruises on my wrist... i had to be motodashi today for uchikomi, of a guy trying out for 4th kyu... he went full power... he caused the bruises on my wrist.. and another guy (7th kyu) aimed for kote (also full throttle) and missed... right across my forearm... didn't mind it though, i got my 5th kyu!!!!!!
i think it's usually the uchidachi is too heavy handed..
Danny Boy
12-02-2004, 04:48 AM
Well, this isnt badbington. So i wouldnt worry too much about getting bruised from time to time.
If its a big peristant bruise however, then you better invest in one of those kote protectors/pads.
This could also be due to the reason that you maybe just started fighting in bogu...heavy bruising is normal at the start, before your forearm muscles develop and you get used to getting smacked across the hand.
Hai_hai
13-02-2004, 02:29 AM
do people usually get big bruises on their wrists through the kote? any way to prevent it?
Some kendo suppliers sell wrist protectors for additional protection. Or, you can tape a couple of maxi-pads onto your kote. Then, your opponents can yell, "Kotex" every time they do a kote-uchi.
ALI G
13-02-2004, 03:06 AM
Some kendo suppliers sell wrist protectors for additional protection. Or, you can tape a couple of maxi-pads onto your kote. Then, your opponents can yell, "Kotex" every time they do a kote-uchi.
Youz Peepz can pickz upz from Hai Haiz houz ezpeciallyz da XL 1z cuz hez a big puzzy.....
Kendo ISB
13-02-2004, 11:28 PM
I have sustained multiple injuries on my hand.....from my expirience, its not how thick the kote is...it actually depends on the hitter. Most sensei naturally hit hard because they want to get the right sound....So it hurts >_<. For protection, if all else fails, take a pair of socks, cut up one sock, so your arm can pass thru, and roll up and stuff the other sock in. So it doesn't hurt as much.....i just get used to it :P
Hai_hai
14-02-2004, 02:20 AM
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Very funny. I almost forgot to laugh.
LNGUYEN
14-02-2004, 02:44 AM
Hai Hai and Ali G,
What can I do for your guys to make me stop laughing?
Have you ever experience this, when I and another guy in the dojo practiced shiai, I won over him a Kote and I didn't remember how hard I hit it. He said it didn't hurt at that moment but later he got a big swell arm.
m_french
14-02-2004, 04:34 AM
do people usually get big bruises on their wrists through the kote? any way to prevent it?
UMMM...don't let people hit your kote....just a thought :beard:
m_french
14-02-2004, 04:37 AM
For protection, if all else fails, take a pair of socks, cut up one sock, so your arm can pass thru, and roll up and stuff the other sock in. So it doesn't hurt as much.....i just get used to it :P
Socks....Socks???????? :beard:
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