E-Bogu Obaru Oval grip Dobari Shinai ?'s [Archive]

steliosk

13-02-2004, 02:34 AM

Has anybody had any experience with this shinai? If yes, please post your
opinions. I actually have one of these. I am not sure how I feel about it. The grip is not too thick, which gives me problems with my left hand (could also be bad technique though :) ). My hands are a little large. It is nice having an oval grip, but I would prefer the tsuka to be thicker. Plus I generally prefer chokuto (is that the right term?) rather than dobari shinai. At least they are reasonably priced, so if you decide you do not like it you will not be bankrupt, and if you decide you love it you could easily buy a few more.

Hai_hai

13-02-2004, 02:44 AM

Getting a proper grip on your shaft is very important in kendo.

ALI G

13-02-2004, 03:04 AM

Getting a proper grip on your shaft is very important in kendo.

Yepz....youz haz much experiencez in dat....

steliosk

13-02-2004, 03:05 AM

Getting a proper grip on your shaft is very important in kendo. How true, how true.
Oh dear, where the hell is this thread going? :laugh:

JLF

13-02-2004, 08:06 AM

I'm also considering the SH6 Madake sold by E-guchi. Does anyone have any opinions on this shinai?

steliosk

13-02-2004, 08:27 AM

I'm also considering the SH6 Madake sold by E-guchi. Does anyone have any opinions on this shinai?
I have been thinking about that one. I do not have any info on it, I should probably email Eguchi for the circumference of the tsuka...
As far as service goes, I am thrilled with e-bogu, which is also why I decided to give that shinai a try.

Andoy

13-02-2004, 09:26 AM

I have two of the e bogu oval grips. They have a good feel and it's durable because it's treated but i still recommend oiling and sanding it down before use.

One thing, make sure if you get a 39 shinai, you get a 39 handle. They gave me 38s on my ovals and it changes the balance. Luckily I had a spare 39 tsukagawa on me.

JLF

13-02-2004, 09:55 AM

Steliosk and Andoy, thank you for your input.

Steliosk, please keep me informed on what findings you encounter regarding the SH6 Madake sold by E-guchi.

JLF

14-02-2004, 10:24 AM

I've decided to go with the Obaru Dobari Koban Gata Shinai from E-Bogu. I was torn between that one and the SH6 Madake Dobari Koban Gata Shinai from E-Guchi, but after dealing with the two companies I was very pleased with the customer service of E-Bogu.

I will post a review.

Andoy

23-02-2004, 03:43 PM

During the steveston tournament, E-bogu and Eguchi were there selling their wares and it was cool because both companies sold very very different shinai.

I found that E-bogu has 'thicker' bamboo. The individual staves were clearly fatter than the eguchi ones.

The Eguchi shinais were thinner and the staves were very thin. Especially towards the tip.

Anyways, I've never had experience with Eguchi shinais. The E-bogu ones work fine but I guess it's just personal preference. Whether you like em thick or thin!:wink:

Andoru

23-02-2004, 05:43 PM

steliosk

24-02-2004, 03:34 AM

Steliosk and Andoy, thank you for your input.

Steliosk, please keep me informed on what findings you encounter regarding the SH6 Madake sold by E-guchi.
Well, E-guchi replied back to me, told me that it is dobari style, but did not tell me what the circumference is, so I do not know. In the meantime, I made a quasi-koban for myself by using for the mune and edge staves from a standard E-bogu practice shinai and on the side staves from an E-bogu Hyoei dobari shinai, which are thicker and slightly wider. I tried it out during last Tuesday's practice, found it preferable to my Obaru and Hyoei :laugh:.

JLF

24-02-2004, 04:45 AM

Well, E-guchi replied back to me, told me that it is dobari style, but did not tell me what the circumference is, so I do not know. In the meantime, I made a quasi-koban for myself by using for the mune and edge staves from a standard E-bogu practice shinai and on the side staves from an E-bogu Hyoei dobari shinai, which are thicker and slightly wider. I tried it out during last Tuesday's practice, found it preferable to my Obaru and Hyoei :laugh:.
Very nice!

Andoru

24-02-2004, 08:25 AM

Stroud Sensei (from bogubag.com) emailed me this morning to say that he's interested in working with Koei in producing a koban shinai. :)

Andoru

24-02-2004, 12:02 PM

Spoke with Tozando: they said that both koban styles are available (one hand or both hands), though the default is koban for left hand only. When ordering, just specify that you want the whole tsuka to be koban and it shall be custom made for you.

Hai_hai

24-02-2004, 10:59 PM

Whatever you need to do to improve your grip, but it really doesn't matter since you should be gripping with your index finger and thumb and having the remaining fingers relaxed.

jfluh9

25-02-2004, 04:28 AM

You crack me up Hai Hai :wink:

Andoru

25-02-2004, 12:07 PM

Whatever you need to do to improve your grip, but it really doesn't matter since you should be gripping with your index finger and thumb and having the remaining fingers relaxed.
Is that how you hold your "shaft" too? :rolleyes:

JLF: have you received your shinais?

JLF

25-02-2004, 02:45 PM

Is that how you hold your "shaft" too? :rolleyes:

JLF: have you received your shinais?
Yes! I have them. Is it possible to post pictures? I haven't had a chance to thoroughly inspect them yet, however, I can tell you that they are fully oval without any discrepency. The weight is of Dobari form and I'm very pleased. It feels great. I'll try to post some pictures if I can figure out how. But I can say confidently that there isn't any misrepresentation about the ovalness or quality of the Obaru shinai.

JLF

25-02-2004, 02:48 PM

Whatever you need to do to improve your grip, but it really doesn't matter since you should be gripping with your index finger and thumb and having the remaining fingers relaxed.
Hai Hai,

By the way, I've noticed lately that you have increased the quality of your posts. By this I mean there seems to be true substanance in the value of your feedback (excluding this one of course)... I like this... Keep it up. I'm sure I can learn a lot from you.

Andoru

25-02-2004, 02:55 PM

Yes! I have them. Is it possible to post pictures? I haven't had a chance to thoroughly inspect them yet, however, I can tell you that they are fully oval without any discrepency. The weight is of Dobari form and I'm very pleased. It feels great. I'll try to post some pictures if I can figure out how. But I can say confidently that there isn't any misrepresentation about the ovalness or quality of the Obaru shinai. Excellent! Good to hear! By the way, did you order online? If so, did you make it clear that you wanted the whole tsuka to be oval?

Yup you may post pictures...just attach them in your post. Otherwise, go to http://imageshack.us to host your photos free then let us know the link! A shot at the bottom of the tsuka will be much appreciated!

JLF

25-02-2004, 03:17 PM

Here's a real quick one.http://imageshack.us/files1/ObaruShinai.JPG

JLF

25-02-2004, 03:25 PM

Here's another shot. And yes I did make sure to specify that I wanted the whole tsuka completely oval. I left nothing to chance. I ordered two and also requested them to match up the staves and they did a great job. I'll take more pic's tomorrow.

http://www.imageshack.us/files2/BottomsUp.JPGHere's a real quick one.http://imageshack.us/files1/ObaruShinai.JPG

JLF

25-02-2004, 03:28 PM

Excellent! Good to hear! By the way, did you order online? If so, did you make it clear that you wanted the whole tsuka to be oval?

Yup you may post pictures...just attach them in your post. Otherwise, go to http://imageshack.us (http://imageshack.us/) to host your photos free then let us know the link! A shot at the bottom of the tsuka will be much appreciated!
I'm sorry I seem to be bit by bit answering your questions.

Yes, I did order online after I called a couple of times to ensure that they indeed had what I was looking for (which I'm happy to say they did).

Cheers