Electronic system

[Massimo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMIZXJB6UE0&feature=player_embedded#!

mmm ..

[cr720]

Please, please no...

[Kenzan]

<Insert coin.>

[ender84567]

It would help their case if the people demonstrating looked like they have done kendo for more than a month, and the fact that none of the 'points' it gave are actually points...

[hugo]

It would help their case if the people demonstrating looked like they have done kendo for more than a month, and the fact that none of the 'points' it gave are actually points...

But according to an electronic system they would be, sadly.

Does anyone on this forum also practice western fencing? I've read a good deal about the "demise" of fencing once the electrical scoring was introduced and I'd love to hear some personal insights.

[ender84567]

been rehashed ad-nauseum, use the search.

[Trent]

It is interesting to watch what is happening on the court, and on the score board as it is just outside the shiaijo...Just after blue 'scores' their second point, red 'scores' a point for what can only be described as a swat to the shinai (at about the 1min 20sec mark)...If I'd have known that that was a point, I would be doing it more often.

I should add, that there was a great fist pump at the the end of time by the winner....

[Fudo-Shin]

It's just sickening. It completely demoralizes what kendo actually is, what you see there is neither kendo nor kumdo. What gets me is that there seems to be a few kumdo players lurking around the courts that turn a blind eye to it, or are the taekwondo students? Will Korea be the ones to explore this avenue in the 'future'?　

[Yoyo]

As proved sometimes before: machines aren't always better than humen.
Maybe it could come in handy IF both practitioners had good kendo (so not beginners like me, but more experienced) AND when it's just between 2 members of a dojo where there can't always be a referee.
And I have to agree with 2 people who commented on that video (and in this topic).

[Massimo]

The only thing I guess should be ok is the electronic system together with the standard referee method, like an additional confirmation of the ippon.
If referees raise the flags, and the system say ok, it's ippon.
Anyway I would prefer no electronic meddling.

[yoda-waza]

The only reason I watched was my hope the electronics was capable of zapping both those guys. Fail!

[b8amack]

I really have a hate on for those hdgd/hapkido "kumdo" turkeys. They give Korea such a bad rep for kendo.

[Ruleslawyer]

But according to an electronic system they would be, sadly.

Does anyone on this forum also practice western fencing? I've read a good deal about the "demise" of fencing once the electrical scoring was introduced and I'd love to hear some personal insights.

I have been involved in fencing for a long time, and electric wasn't common at local sabre tournaments when I started. I have to say that electric fencing encouraged much more sloppy technique. To score while fencing dry you had to make sure you had a decisive touch. That your form was good, and more important that a judge saw it. Electric allows silly thing like attack with the side of the blade and grazing touches that a judge would never see. Even in foil and epee where the electric equipment has had less impact (IMHO) it has distanced fencing from its sword fighting origins. OTOH once you accept that fencing is a sport, and not training for real fighting, it makes scoring more fair and consistent.

[pgsmith]

OTOH once you accept that fencing is a sport, and not training for real fighting, it makes scoring more fair and consistent.
In my opinion, this is exactly the problem with electronic scoring. It reduces the match (whether it is fencing or kendo) from being just a part of the journey, to being the destination.

[Dervish]

I wish this venture as much success as New Coke enjoyed.

[pgsmith]

I wish this venture as much success as New Coke enjoyed.
I still think New Coke was an elaborate marketing ploy that worked just the way they had hoped.