Sword Etiquette

[Catal]

I understand the Bushido etiquette that addresses touching a katana without permission, but what is the protocol for touching a wakizashi without permission? TIA

[Khabbi]

I dont think Bushido has anything to do with it , Iaido has nothing to do with bushido , and the same rules aply to katanas , wakizashi , shinais and any other equipment

[Jamie]

Touching someones sword is all about good manners and in 'old Japan' bad manner could get your head removed from your shoulders! In or out of the dojo it's always best to wait and be invited to 'touch' someone elses sword unless you know them really well and then you must always still ask to 'touch' their sword. Hope this helps?

[Catal]

I dont think Bushido has anything to do with it , Iaido has nothing to do with bushido , and the same rules aply to katanas , wakizashi , shinais and any other equipment:ogre:



Touching someones sword is all about good manners and in 'old Japan' bad manner could get your head removed from your shoulders! In or out of the dojo it's always best to wait and be invited to 'touch' someone elses sword unless you know them really well and then you must always still ask to 'touch' their sword. Hope this helps?Well, this was in my apartment, and the someone in question is a person I train with in martial arts not related to Kendo. The person picked up and unsheathed one of my wakizashis without asking, and it irritated me greatly. Afterwards, the person placed the sword, back on the stand it had been resting, upside-down.

I didn't mention anything because this person has no knowledge of sword etiquette, and I try to be understanding of the uninitiated. Since the time I started training I was taught never to touch another person's sword, whether it was a Japanese weapon or not. I'm trying to justify a reason to say nothing about this. If the rules of Bushido apply to just the Katana, then fine. But, if those rules also apply to the wakizashi, then I need to say something.

My research has produced zilch on whether or not a violation occurs if someone makes unapproved contact with a wakizashi. All of my texts refer to the katana by name, and nothing else. I'm an old school practitioner, and though I wouldn't chop off my training partner's head, I would definitely bring this to his attention if he crossed the line; I'm just not certain that he did.

[mingshi]

Blah Blah Blah...I'm an old school practitioner, and though I wouldn't chop off my training partner's head, I would definitely bring this to his attention if he crossed the line; I'm just not certain that he did.
Well... depends on which old school you are refering to then. I guess at least in this case he'll be qualified to have his hands chopped off, if not the head.

In Bushido, it'll be a shame for a samurai to let someone else touch their swords, especially your wakizashi should be on your waist all the time. Maybe you'd better commit seppuku. :rolleyes: YMMY

[Khabbi]

Like Miss Mingshi said , if your going by bushido you should kill your friend and then take your own life

But samurai and bushido are long gone , dead , finto , slut .

The proper etiquette is to not tuch others Iaitos , Shinais or wakizashis or bokkens. unless you ask the owner , and dont step over them

Just tell your friend not to do it again , and give up the bushido thing ,

[Catal]

Maybe you'd better commit seppuku. :rolleyes: YMMY
Oh, be nice. Any country that falls under "the crown" should know better than to take a jab at another man's traditions.




Like Miss Mingshi said , if your going by bushido you should kill your friend and then take your own life.
I gather I should have specified "modern" Bushido. Heh... I'm guessing my previous response looks like something a psycho whose forgotten what century it is would say. No, no, no... that's not the message I meant to convey at all. What I'm trying to figure out is if I was getting upset over something that has no bearing on what one would call today's Bushido. Anyway, the last sentence in your response was most hopeful so I'll go with that. Thanks.

[meow]

Hi,

I think this is just a question of general behaviour. I would not take the golf club of someone and wave it around because I don´t know anything about golf and how to swing a golf club. Hence I would feel extremely uncomfortable doing so.

greetings

meow

[Yowai]

What the hell is this thread about? People touching your wall-hanger bar of metal? Damn samurai otaku tards.

Not allowing people to touch certain possessions because it's easily broken or dirtied is fine. Your cosplay hunk of shit does not fall under that category, even if your 'wakizashi' is an authentic antique. You're a psychiatric case.

Don't bother other people with your "Bushido code" that was learnt from some anime. Actually, stay out of public altogether.

[Kaoru]

What the hell is this thread about? People touching your wall-hanger bar of metal? Damn samurai otaku tards.

Not allowing people to touch certain possessions because it's easily broken or dirtied is fine. Your cosplay hunk of shit does not fall under that category, even if your 'wakizashi' is an authentic antique. You're a psychiatric case.

Don't bother other people with your "Bushido code" that was learnt from some anime. Actually, stay out of public altogether.


Hi Yowai-san,

Calm down...It's ok. There IS certain etiquette for touching a person's swords. Even if it is a wallhanger, and you don't know if Cartal-san does Iaido or not, so it may not be one, still it is impolite to touch it without permission. A sword is sharp, so it is just best to ask first, anyway, regardless of what it is.

I think, Yowai-san, it is better to ask questions to find out first, if the person is an otaku or not, before jumping to a conclusion like that. To call a person names without provocation is not wise. :)

Kaoru

[Yowai]

Why would the situation, where someone is playing Iaido, matter in this case?

[jfluh9]

I mean no offense, but no one person is ever "playing" Iaido. Studying should be the term. Sorry if I sound like a "Hai Hai". :wink:

[JSchmidt]

Why do you guys even bother responding to Yowai?..he's just trolling for attention.

[mystic_kendoka]

he's just trolling for attention.

ive been wondering, what IS the definition of a troll? kendo-world is my first board, so im quite new to the term, i know who the 'trolls' are, but i dont know what that means..?

[Catal]

I think, Yowai-san, it is better to ask questions to find out first, if the person is an otaku or not, before jumping to a conclusion like that. To call a person names without provocation is not wise.
It's okay. Such is life.



What the hell is this thread about? People touching your wall-hanger bar of metal? Damn samurai otaku tards.
Hm... Nope, not a wall-hanger, but if it makes you feel better to believe that, then by all means do so. And, if you think I'm a psychiatric case, that's fine too. Lastly, if you like to think that I watch anime and that you're a better Kendo-ga than me, I truly don't care. I hope you have fun being an anti-social nitwit, and live a long and lonely life. :wink:

[Catal]

ive been wondering, what IS the definition of a troll? kendo-world is my first board, so im quite new to the term, i know who the 'trolls' are, but i dont know what that means..?

It's pretty much anyone who insults or instigates with no provocation. Trolls enjoy seeing how far they can push people because they don't take any subject matter seriously enough to be upset by it themselves. Think of Tom Green in his pre-testiclar cancer days.

[JSchmidt]

A troll is someone who posts deliberatly to provoke an emotional response. A few are very good and funny, but most are just sad and annoying, like Yowai and Hai-hai. Very very rarely do they add anything useful to the dialog.
You then get your troll-trollers, like Ali-G who's just out to taunt the trolls.
They are well aware of what they are doing, will usually keep their language reasonably clean. Yowai has overstepped the line a few times, gotten a slap over the wrist from the moderators and then he backs off for a few days and starts all over again.
It's fine once you get used to them, as you can just ignore them,but they will pretty much always lure new people in when they join the BBS.

Jakob

[Yowai]

JSchmidt: Why do you even bother responding? Your persistence at a furtile cause is a sign of stupidity.

Why can't this board reconize this samurai tard?

If the rules of Bushido apply to just the Katana, then fine. But, if those rules also apply to the wakizashi, then I need to say something.

I'm trying to figure out is if I was getting upset over something that has no bearing on what one would call today's Bushido.

This person is serious. It's a social reject caught in its wild samurai fantasies.

[Catal]

JSchmidt: Why do you even bother responding? Your persistence at a furtile cause is a sign of stupidity.

Why can't this board reconize this samurai tard?

This person is serious. It's a social reject caught in its wild samurai fantasies.

Hey, I like you. What's your number, baby? You and I can have a nice little chat. Maybe, share a tea ceremony. Send me a PM, perhaps we can hook-up later. :smoker:

[Bleda]

A troll is someone who "fishes" (think of trolling for fish) for angry responses. His/Her whole goal is to solely piss people off and get them riled up enough to post a response.

[yangs]

I don't think this is not all about bushido. Drawing out other's sword without asking, or swing other's shinai, is the same thing as taking out money from other's poket without permission isn't it? I think we should respect other's property. If you don't like other's to play your shinai (many of my non-kendoka friends will think swinging my shinai is cool and interesting, so they just take it and swing), tell your friends and I think if you are polite, they will appologize too. Be easy with people who don't know the rules that we follow.