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Shido
8th April 2004, 11:39 AM
I know the basics of Oda Nobunaga's death, but I have been wondering about the truth. When I looked into it, I found many rumors mixed in with the facts. I had been hoping that someone would know more about this. Thank you.

KhawMengLee
8th April 2004, 04:45 PM
Nobunaga was betrayed by one of his generals Akechi Mitsuhide. Surrounded in his Kyoto residence by Akechi, Nobunaga either died by commiting seppuku or perished in the fire that broke out.

The reasons for Akechi's betrayal can be found in the link below:

http://www.samurai-archives.com/nobunaga.html

Shido
9th April 2004, 11:34 PM
thanks, I always wondered what really happened.

[Kensei 剣の聖者]
13th April 2004, 10:15 PM
i was told his general had him shot because he changed sides, and the irony is that he was shot by the musket, the very weapon he had single handedly equipped japan with

aru-ma
14th April 2004, 10:23 AM
the difficult thing about great historical figure, especialy the one's before the 19th century is that there are too many myths surrounding them, Nobunaga is one another one is Takeda Shingen, in fact Takeda's death is much more controversial than Nobunaga's IMO. While it's clear that Nobunaga died because of Akech's treason it's not quite clear whether Takeda was killed (assasinated) or died of sickness.

[Kensei 剣の聖者]
15th April 2004, 02:50 AM
Takeda was shot by a Nobunaga Sniper, then his death was covered up for a while.

gsx1100s
26th April 2004, 10:02 PM
You can see this story about Takeda Shingen in Akira Kurosawas "Kagemusha" a fantastic movie!
The story of the rise and fall of Nobunaga and other great men in Japanese history can be found in "Taiko" by Eiji Yoshikawa. It's a great read!
So is his book "Musashi"

cheers Michael

Shido
26th July 2004, 10:27 AM
I have seen Kagemusha, it was good, cheap camera, and old movie but still quality, if I remember correctly Shingen dies, and a look-a-like takes his place for an unbelievable amount of time. Really interestering. Has anyone heard any theories of Oda's sisters role in his death?

fe-taru tora
23rd September 2004, 12:40 PM
is oda's sister like mironei or something like that I heard that she acted as his personal body guard for some time and had something to do with the assasination, not too clear on the details, my conversational partner from japan told me this,... I'm still working on his english ....lol

Hai_hai
26th September 2004, 03:17 AM
I know the basics of Oda Nobunaga's , but I have been wondering about the truth. When I looked into it, I found many rumors mixed in with the facts. I had been hoping that someone would know more about this. Thank you.
Okay... okay. You got me. I did it.

fe-taru tora
27th September 2004, 06:57 AM
Okay... okay. You got me. I did it.
hai hai, I wanted to do it, your just lucky you found him before I did :ogre:

red2426
7th October 2010, 11:16 PM
It's amazing how many different deaths Oda has gone through. I guess since around that time scruptures weren't kept, then again Owari temple was burned to the ground as well. Which brings me to what is in the book the rise and fall of Oda Nobunaga, during the raid against Owari after the fire had been set to the temple and the Oda forces routed when they gained entry to find Nobunaga no body was ever found and was believed Nobunaga had died in the flames. However, it's all speculation because no one really knew what happened. Later on Hideyoshi lived out Oda's dream of unifaction of japan, when he succeded he brought peace and prosparity throughout Japan for quite awhile.

ShinKenshi
8th October 2010, 12:05 AM
Way to resurrect a 6 year old thread.

FastKendo
8th October 2010, 03:19 AM
and in a few moments, Nobunaga will resurrect too, LOL

red2426
8th October 2010, 07:18 AM
heres one if you dont like the thread dont visit it gtfo

dwez
8th October 2010, 08:14 PM
According to this book (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blood-Ninja-Nick-Lake/dp/1848873875/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1286536328&sr=8-1) he did resurrect, but then it's based on the principles that all ninja were vampires, because clearly being a ninja wasn't cool enough. Explains the bloodletting, mystic 'powers' and penchant for night time activities though.

pgsmith
8th October 2010, 11:18 PM
I have no problem with threads like this one being resurrected. However, I wish that the poster had added some hard information rather than simply recounting more unsubstantiated stories like all of the rest of the posters. Seems sort of useless to dredge an old thread up for nothing.

The great I AM
28th October 2010, 01:34 PM
The assassination of Oda Nobunaga by the coward Akechi Mitsuhide?

Could have been a film....