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[ACRAWFORD]

Apparently, I have offended an indidual from another school because I am seeing his ex wife. He also pratices kendo and has sent a formal challenge through his instuctor to mine. He wants to have a match. I have not responded to him and was looking for advice in this situation on what you think I should do.

[[Kensei 剣の聖者]]

Whats wrong with a match if your wearing bogu and there are rules, if he comes to your house with a Katana then you run, unless you have a better katana that is

[ACRAWFORD]

yes he wants a kendo match with our instructors a judges. Nothing crazy, my defense against the real thing at my house is called a gloc.

[AlexM]

Apparently, I have offended an indidual from another school because I am seeing his ex wife. He also pratices kendo and has sent a formal challenge through his instuctor to mine. He wants to have a match. I have not responded to him and was looking for advice in this situation on what you think I should do.

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

There's no such thing as a "formal challenge" in kendo... unless I'm missing something. This kind must be one of those "mini-samurai" guys. If the guy slaps you with a duelling glove then laugh it off and ignore it.

This sounds like something a pimply 15 year old would do. If you're an adult ignore it. Don't disgrace kendo by actually lowering yourself to the level of a fool.

If I was your instructor I would have laughed, ignored the "challenge" and lectured on the importance of leaving personal concerns and emotions OUTSIDE the dojo. Haven't these people heard of "mushin"?

The dojo floor is no pace to be taking petty concerns and emotions. You do kendo to improve yourself not to "challenge" other people because of some personal concern.

Wow, this just really surprises me. I've never heard of anything so ridiculous or truly disgracefull. I don't want to know where this guy practices because I'll be prejudiced against his club. If I had ever done such a thing my sensei would probably be upset that I let myself descend to such a level.

Ignore him. Just practice against him as you would against anyone else. He's not special or more important then your other training partners. If you happen to do some jigieko against him just do your best and thank him afterwards. In fact I'd treat him like everyone else just to show how insignificant his childish attitude is to me.

I seriously wonder if he knows what kendo is all about. In fact, I'm sure he doesn't. I'd also question any instructor that went along with such a scenario.

[ACRAWFORD]

Thank you for your input on this.


Like I said he is from another club, and I have given no response. I was just wondering what others would think.

[Hai_hai]

Apparently, I have offended an indidual from another school because I am seeing his ex wife. He also pratices kendo and has sent a formal challenge through his instuctor to mine. He wants to have a match. I have not responded to him and was looking for advice in this situation on what you think I should do.

So what if you offended him, a kendo dual would not solve anything. So what if he wins or loses, he's still offended. She's still his ex.

[Neil Gendzwill]

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
[snip]

What he said.

[ACRAWFORD]

My main concern is for her. he is a how do you say a ************* fill it in as you see fit. I do not want this to turn into somthing worse. Me and my instructor talked about this over dinner and a couple of brews and had pretty much the same conclusion that you have responded with.

I have no intention of accepting the challenge or even responding to it.

[Niels]

YOU Sir have insulted my HONOR, i challenge you to a duel !!

Seriously this guy watched too much movies, or too few.Because if he'd done his homework he would find that its appropriate to let you choose weapons and location

I choose trouts at the old mill !!!

--niels

[AlexM]

YOU Sir have insulted my HONOR, i challenge you to a duel !!

Seriously this guy watched too much movies, or too few.Because if he'd done his homework he would find that its appropriate to let you choose weapons and location

I choose trouts at the old mill !!!

--niels

Sir I accept your challenge!

I'll meet you at the old mill at sunrise. I shall poach you and then the weapons.

Salutations,

Vicompte, Marquis de Bitemolle

[Bleda]

Sir I accept your challenge!

I'll meet you at the old mill at sunrise. I shall poach you and then the weapons.

Salutations,

Vicompte, Marquis de Bitemolle
That is classic right there.

[Magnus Stern]

Apparently, I have offended an indidual from another school because I am seeing his ex wife. He also pratices kendo and has sent a formal challenge through his instuctor to mine. He wants to have a match.
hrmm... Am I the only one who wonder if this is joke in the first place? Mr A. Crawford! Are you pulling our legs here? ROTFL?

Secondly (if not a joke): Are you still seeing his wife? What does she say?

Thirdly (if not a joke, still): Of course this "challenge" has nothing to do with Kendo. The dojo is one of few places where I can get away fro stupid people I have to deal with elsewhere..

Good luck! regards //m

[ACRAWFORD]

This is no joke. Yes I am still seeing her. She thinks its stupid. Im not saying I want to do this I do not, and I will not as stated before. Was just wondering how more experienced kendoka would handle my situation.


As for my name it is Andre R Crawford and yes its my real name.

I have been a member for a while but rarely post because I have only been practicing Kendo for about 3 months. I know enough to keep my mouth shut basically.

I just wanted advice and how others would view the situation.

Thank you and Im sorry for any confusion on my part

[Will]

tell him you'll duel him and come to the location with a gun...then act all surprised....

[Catherine]

Hi Andre,

I think that your decision not to respond is the right one - it leaves everyone with dignity. It sounds to me like an excuse for a bit of legitimised fisticuffs (with shinai).

Like others have said, Kendo doesn't have a tradition of duels and personal stuff is to be left outside.

Catherine

[LNGUYEN]

It is not formal challenge yet until he comes to your dojo, take his kote (I hope he has a good one) and throw it to your face. That is how they do it in Europe. For now, just ignore him.

[KhawMengLee]

Dude...this guy sounds like a village idiot lost in time. Who the hell asks for a duel today?!?!? And his dojo Sensei sent the formal request...I think he's got a few screws loose and plays waaaaaay to much AD&D.

Maybe you should pull the old MacDooogal MacAngus vs. Blackadder on him and bring a claymore to the fight.

[Eiliries]

You said she was his EX-wife, right? So, why would he care whether or not you are seeing her?

[Wout]

Dude...this guy sounds like a village idiot lost in time. Who the hell asks for a duel today?!?!? And his dojo Sensei sent the formal request...I think he's got a few screws loose and plays waaaaaay to much AD&D.

Maybe you should pull the old MacDooogal MacAngus vs. Blackadder on him and bring a claymore to the fight.

real men figth with cannons. We're not the 1700's

[mystic_kendoka]

but cannons are sooo expensive, and way too difficult to carry around, i recommend a game of some good poker...

[Jamie]

The guy is a mentalist, ignor him I say, but keep zanshin as he obviously has you on his mind!

[Wout]

Poker would be good too, if you've got 1337-zl<Illz in poker (as in cheating).

In real life there is no point in playing fair and lose if you can cheat and get away with it.(this can count as the worst most macchiavellian advice ever given)

[taiwnezboi]

this is great.. you said you've only been practicing for 3 months.. he's probably much more experienced.. get beat up by him and get sympathy from the girl, who is going to think he is a big bully :evil:

[orayakab]

C'mon. This is just absurd.

Orayakab, U.

[itachi]

So immature of him. Just ignore him. A duel wouldn't prove anything. Nothing happens if either of you guys are winners. Doesn't change a thing.

[Bleda]

Tell him u accept and will meet him at dawn with shotguns.

[Ren Blade]

You should pass up on this duel. You're better off seeking legal advice from a lawyer if he is throwing threats at you just because he's upset.

[munenmuso]

take the challenge and sharpen your shinai. Sometimes a man's gotta do what a man's expected to do. You must defend your honor and dignity and rejecting a challenge like that is the greatest insult of your life. Never let this pass cause this is the only moment you can show who has the bigger shinai, concentrate and fear nothing.

Probably at sunset, one of you is still standing. I hope that duelling in your area are not prohibited by the local authorities and vendettas are allowed as swift justice for settling differences with a rival. Take care and we are counting on you.

[taiwnezboi]

take the challenge and sharpen your shinai. Sometimes a man's gotta do what a man's expected to do. You must defend your honor and dignity and rejecting a challenge like that is the greatest insult of your life. Never let this pass cause this is the only moment you can show who has the bigger shinai, concentrate and fear nothing.

Probably at sunset, one of you is still standing. I hope that duelling in your area are not prohibited by the local authorities and vendettas are allowed as swift justice for settling differences with a rival. Take care and we are counting on you.

hahahaha that is HARDCORE.. you're the MAN! :silly:

[meow]

get yourself a gun. :D

(...just kidding...)

greetings meow

[Masahiro]

I think you should respond despite the obvious reasons. A warrior never backs down from a challenge. It was worse than dying in the old days. Miyamoto Musashi challenged many famous swordsmen of his time when he was just very young. They all answerd, none rejected his challenge. Did he have good reasons to challenge them? Ah... you can say yes, you can say no. Point is it wasn't like a samurai to back down from an "issued" challenge! I think the reason is foolish, and I think the result of this challenge will serve no immediate purpose. But rather than trying to be "zen" and say "I wont reply because I think it's childish" do reply to the challenge. And see how well you can control your emotions in a shia with him. As "control" is the most critical in kendo, do you think you will be able to do good kendo without getting angry with the obvious assults(physical,verbal or mental) he might be throwing at you in the match, can you strike him with perfect men strickes and assume what it is you have learned from kendo? Can you withhold the pressure from your desires of beating him? Or can you control yourself such an extent, that you fight and beat him with the first 2 points and leave him wondering what it is that made you beat him? Of course, a word of advice have both of your sensei's with you. Or better yet have a friendly practice in conjunction with the other dojo. But do your shia with him at the end. Let those who are you kohais see what you as a senpai can teach them.

[hyouriittai]

I think he's got a few screws loose and plays waaaaaay to much AD&D.


Or A.D.H.D.

I am thoroughly amused.

[baka gaijin]

sounds like he went samurai on you. Sickly obsessed with honour and stuff.

If you do exept I think your weapon of choice should be a chainsaw.. Just to make sure you win :old_man:

[Will]

Masahiro- obviously you didn't read any of the posts made after the first one, cause had you read them 1) you would have seen that ACrawford has only been doing Kendo for 3 months so he wouldn't have bogu...kohai, etc 2) why the person issueing the challenge is retarded and why accepting it is stupid and 3) that the year is 2004. There aren't samurais, we're not Miyamoto. This is not a matter of honor, it's a matter of someone trying to be a would-be-samurai.

[kendokamax]

challenge him to street fighter. if you win buy him an ice cream.

[mystic_kendoka]

wat i suggest is get 2 shinai, not nito style, but 2 size 37 shinais or so,
and just flail them round at him, ignoring where you're supposed to hit, its almost impossible to try to fight against... and you dont need any skill for it, just enough arm muscle, to wield 2 swords at once... also dont swing up and down as you're supposed to, just side to side, harder to block, more painful

[Cypher]

People like this are just morons. Ignore him. He obviously has little understanding of kendo if he thinks of it as a means to settle arguments.
This guy sounds like a loser. I'd just leave him to stew in his own anger.

Good luck ^_^

[Masahiro]

Masahiro- obviously you didn't read any of the posts made after the first one, cause had you read them 1) you would have seen that ACrawford has only been doing Kendo for 3 months so he wouldn't have bogu...kohai, etc 2) why the person issueing the challenge is retarded and why accepting it is stupid and 3) that the year is 2004. There aren't samurais, we're not Miyamoto. This is not a matter of honor, it's a matter of someone trying to be a would-be-samurai.
>>>sorry perhaps, I should have elaborated a bit more. With regards to your first point. I don't mean answer the challenge and duel now. I mean accept the challenge and set a date. However long from now. Be it one year, two years. .. by then should this perason still hold so much anger towards ACrawford-san. So be it. But as I have made it clear in my previous post, it is a matter of not backing down from a challenge.

About your 2nd and 3rd point,
>>>While we are constantly reminded of the 6 virtues by the pleats on our hakama. 1)mercy, 2)righteousness, 3)etiquette, 4)intelligence, 5)trust. .. (not to mention the pleat in the back that represents loyalty/alligance) We shouldn't disregard honor just because it can't be found on the pleats. Courage, pride, and honor can only be found in your heart. Neither time, nor circumstance needs to be a factor for you consideration to uphold such virtue.

[kendokamax]

masahiro you are way too serious about it.

[dennis]

i say accept the challenge, then after finding out he is a 7 dan proceed to insult his mother. once he is completely enraged demand that you should fight with the snaps on the end of bras (those things hurt if they hit you when you are trying to undo a rather small one) then borrow one of his ex wife's bras (make sure he would recognize it like one that was a gift) now after all of this is done and he is teeming with rage say...i dont think fighting will solve anything then simply walk away

[Zato Ichi]

then hide up a tree. When the challenger gets disgruntled and walks off jump down the tree and slay him and any bystanders.

Alternatively, sleep in a boat. When you wake up fashion a bokken from an oar and suprise your enemy with your uncouth appearance. Slay him and any bystanders.

[Lunchboxiswrong]

I would reply to him, just tell him that you don't think it would do any good. It won't change any thing if you win, if any thing he's going to be more hurt over this if he loses. But give him a reply at the most