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neokensei
5th July 2004, 07:18 PM
I was just wondering (and my apologies if this has been asked before) if there are any schools that teach the use of the japanese straightsword (which, if I recall correctly, appears similar to the chinese straightsword).

Also, if such schools/styles existed, are they similar to chinese swordplay (jianshu) or would they be closer to kenjutsu?

And how about sword construction? Are the jian and the tsurugi practically the same as far as construction/build was concerned(asides from appearance, that is)?

Many thanks

mystic_kendoka
5th July 2004, 11:54 PM
tsurugi sounds funny..

tsuru=string
gi=shirt/jacket

to me it seems to mean string shirt :P

Anime12478
5th July 2004, 11:59 PM
ha, ha, ha, nice one. But personally, I don't know of any type styles. You can also check on E-Budo's forums to see if there is such a thing

mystic_kendoka
6th July 2004, 12:01 AM
i think it is the japanese term for the chinese sword..

Anime12478
6th July 2004, 05:32 AM
Whether or not it is a japanese term for a chinese sword, I don't know. All I know that tsurugi is written with the same Kanji as the Ken in Kendo. I have actually been dying to know what the difference between the two reading are, since they can be read both ways when they stand alone.

neokensei
7th July 2004, 12:22 AM
Well, as far as I recall...the tsurugi refers to the straight, double-edged sword that the japanese used prior to the emergence of the saber-esque tachi and katana(when bows, not swords, were the more prominent weapon, I think). I seem to recall pictures of warriors in armor with straight swords and the large bows (daikyu) while on horseback ....I could be wrong, though.

As for the kanji involved...I really don't know. :ko:

Karaken
7th July 2004, 12:32 AM
Well, as far as I recall...the tsurugi refers to the straight, double-edged sword that the japanese used prior to the emergence of the saber-esque tachi and katana(when bows, not swords, were the more prominent weapon, I think). I seem to recall pictures of warriors in armor with straight swords and the large bows (daikyu) while on horseback ....I could be wrong, though.

As for the kanji involved...I really don't know. :ko:
If you recall movie Rashomon(spell?), the straight sword is called Koryokum ( Korean Sword ) - The word "Ken" represents two edged straight sword in China ( or Korea ) and Do ( or To ) represetns one edged sword as in "Nihonto". There is an ancient straight sword from Japan displayed in Metropolitan Museum ( in NY ) also saying that is an early sword from Korea ( or Korean Style ) - so I'm assuming that stright sword in Japn is called Korean style and did not blossom into any significant Ryu.. It it did, it would have been called Korean style as well..

Neil Gendzwill
7th July 2004, 12:40 AM
Tsurugi and ken are the same character. Katana and to are the same character. Tsurugi and katana are the Japanese pronunciations of the character and usually refer to a specific kind of sword (older-style straight sword and curved single edged sword worn in belt). Ken and to are the chinese pronunciations of the characters and are usually used in a more generic fashion to mean "sword" (kendo, bokken, iaito, daito).

Tenjo
7th July 2004, 04:30 AM
Reasonable...?

TsurugiSan
2nd February 2009, 07:54 AM
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Cutie_honey
2nd February 2009, 08:34 AM
this thread is over 4 years old!!!!

Dan Weber
2nd February 2009, 08:36 AM
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Good luck!