Why do people hate rich-boy show-offs?

[Hai_hai]

I don't know why people don't like to see beginners with $1000+ bogu. I mean, they want to get the most protective equipment possible that will last forever. Just because their kiri-kaeshi resembles a drunk idiot reenacting the Star Wars fight between Obi Wan and Darth Vadar doesn't mean they can't buy what they want. They are supporting bogu businesses through their purchases.

[not-I]

I don't know why people don't like to see beginners with $1000+ bogu. I mean, they want to get the most protective equipment possible that will last forever. Just because their kiri-kaeshi resembles a drunk idiot reenacting the Star Wars fight between Obi Wan and Darth Vadar doesn't mean they can't buy what they want. They are supporting bogu businesses through their purchases.
Hahahaha. :smiley:

Back on your hobby horse, eh?

[Kote-Men]

There's no problem with a beginner using $1000+ bogu.

Hai-Hai lives in a van, don't listen to him.

We dont have rich people in our dojo.

Most of our beginners start off with korean bogu for the price.

Beginners don't need great bogu.

Nothing against Korean bogu, Korean people are incredible.

[not-I]

By the way, Hai_Hai, i like your new Bender avatar. It suits you.

[Andoru]

I just can't imagine Bender being the Ramen Chef though. :D

[Swissv2]

Ramen as all the essential msg and salts we need to complete our tasty diets

[Hai_hai]

...Beginners don't need great bogu.

Nothing against Korean bogu, Korean people are incredible.
Hmm, beginner's don't need great bogu... so they get Korean bogu... because koreans aren't great... you think Korean people are incredibly awful and sell cheap bogu for crappy beginners... so that's the way it is? Kote-men... you've sunk to an all-time low. Which Shido dojo do you attend? I need to teach you a lesson in manners.

[Hai_hai]

Hahahaha. :smiley:

Back on your hobby horse, eh?
Basically, yes.... where did I put my soap-box?

[emitbrownne]

I don't know why people don't like to see beginners with $1000+ bogu. I mean, they want to get the most protective equipment possible that will last forever. Just because their kiri-kaeshi resembles a drunk idiot reenacting the Star Wars fight between Obi Wan and Darth Vadar doesn't mean they can't buy what they want. They are supporting bogu businesses through their purchases.
YAY Vader YAY!!!!!

And dont forget keep up the support of your local Bogu shop :)

(I'm a rich-boy show off wannabe)

[taganahan]

people just think they're are cocky with all those kind of high-end stuff when they can buy something that is almost the same quality at a lower price. they also think they're cocky because, why would someone buy something very expensive when they still don't know anything that much.

but as people say....let your skills do the talking, not your bogu.

~taganahan

[D'Artagnan]

When i have my first kid, i will set up a trust fund, similar to a college fund (except this will be for a much more constructive purpose). then, when my son/daughter turns 18 i will buy them the flashiest, showiest, ultra-richboy-showoff bogu that money can buy! then i will know i am a good parent!

[aru-ma]

when my son/daughter turns 18 i will buy them the flashiest, showiest, ultra-richboy-showoff bogu that money can buy! then i will know i am a good parent!

Can you adopt me and buy me a ultra richboy showoff bogu?

[Kenshin Axel]

No!
Adopt me!!
Although, I don't think that spending the next five years as your child would be worth the best Bogu.

[chromeburn]

Well it wasn't a flashy bogu but last weekend at tournament there was a 10-12 year old kid with a carbon fiber shinai and i thought, "Now what the f**k does that kid need a $200 shinai for?" (He wasn't bad but wasn't amazing either).

Not so much in a rich boy show off sense but in a ... missing out on the idea. I mean... carbon fiber shinai is cool and durable but there is something to be said about taking care of a bamboo shinai. Besides that, the noise those things make is just... odd.

[Swissv2]

The more rich boy showoffs we have in the world, the more money a business makes; the more money a business makes, the more bogu that can be made; the more bogu that can be made, the bigger the business; the bigger the business, the more choices they have; the more choices they have, the more competitive businesses can get; the more competitive the businesses can get, the lower the price of bogu can become; the lower the prices, the happier us poorer customers :D

(a bit o crazy economics. It might be totally wrong, but what the heck :silly: )

[Zaphiel]

By the way, Hai_Hai, i like your new Bender avatar. It suits you.
yep it does....but bard (simpson) would do better!

[taganahan]

i'm confused and my head is aching now....:confused2

~taganahan

[rainmaker]

Well it wasn't a flashy bogu but last weekend at tournament there was a 10-12 year old kid with a carbon fiber shinai and i thought, "Now what the f**k does that kid need a $200 shinai for?" (He wasn't bad but wasn't amazing either).

Not so much in a rich boy show off sense but in a ... missing out on the idea. I mean... carbon fiber shinai is cool and durable but there is something to be said about taking care of a bamboo shinai. Besides that, the noise those things make is just... odd.
I have seen this kid broke his shinai once every two or three weeks and his parent keep spending money on Shinai... They had enough of this and end up buying him a carbon.... Being kid, I guess he use too much strength on his right hand.....

[rainmaker]

The more rich boy showoffs we have in the world, the more money a business makes; the more money a business makes, the more bogu that can be made; the more bogu that can be made, the bigger the business; the bigger the business, the more choices they have; the more choices they have, the more competitive businesses can get; the more competitive the businesses can get, the lower the price of bogu can become; the lower the prices, the happier us poorer customers :D

(a bit o crazy economics. It might be totally wrong, but what the heck :silly: )
More demand for high end bogu means higher price of such bogu.... Also, cheaper bogu manufactureres might want to produce high end in order to get more margin... We might get all f^&ked....

[Kote-Men]

I believe many of you live in vans like hai-hai and feel the desire to beat on better off adolescent boys.



I have nothing against Koreans. I am Korean.

[Swissv2]

More demand for high end bogu means higher price of such bogu.... Also, cheaper bogu manufactureres might want to produce high end in order to get more margin... We might get all f^&ked....
As the price level of a bogu increases, it results to a decrease in the willingness to buy as certain customers decide not to purchase the bogu. The customer will then try to purchase substitute item of similar quality from another distributor in a competitive market. Thus, if the first bogu company is competitive, they will reduce their price.

On the other hand, if there is few bogu made of high quality, and high demand for that product, price will invariably go higher, to follow the law of shortage. (Shortage in this case meaning = limited edition collectors item)

In the case for "rich-boi-flashy-bogu-purchasers" (is that even a term?) They have the desire to get all things expensive, no matter what the price, so long as it looks quality and is darned expensive looking. When they purchase item from the bogu shop, the bogu shop generates more income, leading to the ability to purchase more raw materials (or higher quality raw materials), use increased technology for machine made items, or just make some bogu maker very happy with larger wallet.

hehe, I couldn't resist! Basic economics, mind you :silly:

[Zaphiel]

I believe many of you live in vans like hai-hai and feel the desire to beat on better off adolescent boys.



I have nothing against Koreans. I am Korean.
has finally someone with a little bit of commen sence arrived?
`tell them.....i am near to give up!

[Reina]

I have seen this kid broke his shinai once every two or three weeks and his parent keep spending money on Shinai... They had enough of this and end up buying him a carbon.... Being kid, I guess he use too much strength on his right hand.....
Wow, talk about a person I'd be scared to go against; not only would you be concerned about getting a throbbing kote/men/do(?), I'd be scared of the splinters if he broke his shinai! But thats just me being a sissy. :silly: But now that I think about it, you'd just need to do stuff like harai-men and try to make him get hansoku....I think... :confused2

[Vansen]

I'm with Hai_hai on this. If the money is yours then spend it on what you want.

Beside the "most protective equipment" argument there are other things that might work in favour of the "rich boy flashy bogu" wearer.

Point 1, everyone wants piece of you, great! The sensei and senior students spend more time with you because they are beating you black and blue. They push you harder and you learn quickly because the bruises are beginning to hurt.

Point 2, you do stand out. This can be of benefit in situations like grading with a hall full of other beginners where good kendo, great kiai might just get missed by the grading panel. Then again, if you suck, you fail for sure.

[Kote-Men]

To all those boys that have rich parents consider getting the same bogu as mine:

http://www.bogubag.com/Bogu/Hand_Made/hirotsugu_L.jpg

notice the nice background :)

[Nanbanjin]

To all those boys that have rich parents consider getting the same bogu as mine:

http://www.bogubag.com/Bogu/Hand_Made/hirotsugu_L.jpg

notice the nice background :)
I bought this one with the change from my pocket money...

http://www.genbudo.com/STORE_Folder/KENDO_Folder/or-tesasi_Folder/b-171-v.html

[YAMAFELL]

Well a bogu for ONLY $10,000... that is pocket money for me.. (I have a whole team I support and make them wear only that bogu!)

But really, I updated my old do, changed it into a "classic" and gave it a sub system and some flashy neon lights. I also gave it some fur trimmings to give it that "high class classic" look.

How about racing stripes on the side of the men? for top speed quality.. ^_^

[litige]

The more rich boy showoffs we have in the world, the more money a business makes; the more money a business makes, the more bogu that can be made; the more bogu that can be made, the bigger the business; the bigger the business, the more choices they have; the more choices they have, the more competitive businesses can get; the more competitive the businesses can get, the lower the price of bogu can become; the lower the prices, the happier us poorer customers :D

(a bit o crazy economics. It might be totally wrong, but what the heck :silly: )

No, the more cheap bogu there is, the more assholes-retard-wannabe-samurai-mulletboy-typicaly-from-da-country will get bogu for nothing, pretending to be the best, forming out school for other loosers to get in. Then we will have the same thing we have with kurotty. Crappy McKendo Dojo

[YAMAFELL]

Mmmmmm..... Hamburgers do sound nice right now...

[kanyil]

lol, i've just inherited a brand new 7-bu(?) 10 year old bogu from my uncle's best mate.

Apparently he lost in one match too many back then (it was his first official match) and quit after that. I hear he's playing the saxophone in a band somewhere now.

[Legio]

As the price level of a bogu increases, it results to a decrease in the willingness to buy as certain customers decide not to purchase the bogu. The customer will then try to purchase substitute item of similar quality from another distributor in a competitive market. Thus, if the first bogu company is competitive, they will reduce their price.

On the other hand, if there is few bogu made of high quality, and high demand for that product, price will invariably go higher, to follow the law of shortage. (Shortage in this case meaning = limited edition collectors item)

In the case for "rich-boi-flashy-bogu-purchasers" (is that even a term?) They have the desire to get all things expensive, no matter what the price, so long as it looks quality and is darned expensive looking. When they purchase item from the bogu shop, the bogu shop generates more income, leading to the ability to purchase more raw materials (or higher quality raw materials), use increased technology for machine made items, or just make some bogu maker very happy with larger wallet.

hehe, I couldn't resist! Basic economics, mind you :silly:
LOL.. Thanks for the crash course on ECO101. I have ECO100 this coming school year... wanna be my tutor?..HEHE The wonderful world of supply and demand...

[Kote-Men]

http://www.bogubag.com/Bogu/Hand_Made/hirotsugu_L.jpg

i got this for my birthday 2 years ago but it was only 6,000 so i tossed it and i yelled at my cousins's aunt's half brother for getting it for me. I mean if you're gonna get someone bogu you should get them quality. I dont accept bogu unless its more than $35,000 bucks man.

and dont call me a rich boy show off because i deserve $100,000 bogu at minimum but they dont make bogu that nice anymore. there is no bogu good enough for me, so i have to make do with the cheap under 10,000 dollar bogu they make nowadays

[Kote-Men]

hey wait a sec!


I'm A SENIOR MEMBER!!!!

[Hai_hai]

No, the more cheap bogu there is, the more...
Too late. Thanks to the Korean bogu makers.

[Hai_hai]

hey wait a sec!


I'm A SENIOR MEMBER!!!!
1401 to 128 posts. Now who is the senior member? Moi...

[NewKenshi]

So whats your problem. Hai Hai

Sounds a bit like envy to me. If you do not like what you have maybe you should save your money and get something better.

Oh and before you start your preaching at me, I am not a "boy" and I am not rich. I am just able to save money until I can purchace somthing of quality.

However I do think that having fancy logos or colors on your bogu that is other than tradition is just showing off.

[litige]

Too late. Thanks to the Korean bogu makers.

damn it! hope there are no more swarms of samurai-wannabes.

[Kote-Men]

Well yes, hai-hai you have 1000 posts.

Most of these posts are pointless and annoying.

And we the people of this forum are the only friends you have..

[litige]

Well yes, hai-hai you have 1000 posts.

Most of these posts are pointless and annoying.

And we the people of this forum are the only friends you have..

Bouahahahah, Bouahahahah!!!!!! Like you know Hai-Hai!

[Kote-Men]

We are his virtu-friends.

[Hai_hai]

damn it! hope there are no more swarms of samurai-wannabes.
Too late. Thanks to samurai anime, ninja movies, and Tom Cruise.

[Hai_hai]

So whats your problem. Hai Hai

Sounds a bit like envy to me. If you do not like what you have maybe you should save your money and get something better.

Oh and before you start your preaching at me, I am not a "boy" and I am not rich. I am just able to save money until I can purchace somthing of quality.

However I do think that having fancy logos or colors on your bogu that is other than tradition is just showing off.
Envy??? Maybe bitter envy, but not plain old envy.
You have to do a search on rich-boy show-off to get the full meaning. Just look at all the people I judge (you know who you are). It's just a term. Whether you are rich or a boy or not, fancy bogu is just that. There's fancy shoes, fancy cars, fancy clothes, fancy TVs. It doesn't even have to be expensive. It could be moderately priced but have a lot of bells and whistles because it was made in Korea.
So I've defined what a rich-boy show-off is, in my own terms. So what? That doesn't change things.
I don't preach. I might insult you. I might give advice.

[Fenix]

I'm currently reading Hagakure right now, and when i read this passage, the first thought that came to mind was rich-boy show offs lol...

"At the time of the attack on the castle at Shimabara, Tazaki Geki was wearing very resplendant armor. Lord Katsushige was not pleased by this, and after that every time he saw something showy he would say, "That's just like Geki's armor".
In the light of this story, military armor and equipment that are showy can be seen as being weak and having no strength. By them one can see through the wearer's heart."

lol...:smiley:

[reg]

i wish i could be a rich boy show off, but i'm not rich enough [even after all the shirt sales and DVD royalties =P]. if you can't join them, dislike them! :smiley:

[KingCanute]

I don't like newbie don't-know-their-first-kata show offs but what's wrong with a coloured do?

[taiwnezboi]

I'm currently reading Hagakure right now, and when i read this passage, the first thought that came to mind was rich-boy show offs lol...

"At the time of the attack on the castle at Shimabara, Tazaki Geki was wearing very resplendant armor. Lord Katsushige was not pleased by this, and after that every time he saw something showy he would say, "That's just like Geki's armor".
In the light of this story, military armor and equipment that are showy can be seen as being weak and having no strength. By them one can see through the wearer's heart."

lol...:smiley:

Well the armor they wore and the armor we wear is kind of different.. I used to think I didn't need good quality stuff in Kumdo but it actually does make some difference. For example, I have cow skin kote that don't fit my hand as perfectly and that turn hard after the sweat dries. With better quality deer skin kote that fit me better I'd probably have a better feel and control over the shinai.

Which brings me to my question: can anyone help me find some sites in and/or that ship to America where I can get some "rich boy showoff" gear? I basically just need a better set of kote because I ripped mine for the second time now and want to upgrade to something that fits better and is more comfy =P

[nalogg]

their kiri-kaeshi resembles a drunk idiot reenacting the Star Wars fight between Obi Wan and Darth Vader.
AAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
that one made me laugh out loud because it describes my kendo to a tee

and when i get struck, with a shinai my clothes slump to the ground and i disappear.

AND i think you're right about it "supporting the bogu business"
and even if those beginners get tired and sell their bogu:
more used bogu available for the poor guys like me

and on the whole, the more the bogu business prospers the cheaper bogu will become

it's that good old capitalist trickle-down effect

[Tholon]

Is plain high quality stuff RBSO?

Or is it just the fancy colours?

[litige]

Is plain high quality stuff RBSO?

Or is it just the fancy colours?

Both, exept for experienced kenshi.

[Hai_hai]

In the light of this story, military armor and equipment that are showy can be seen as being weak and having no strength. By them one can see through the wearer's heart."
True. But, it can also mean the person is as good as his armor looks. That's when you become a bus passenger... cause he takes you to school.

[taiwnezboi]

True. But, it can also mean the person is as good as his armor looks. That's when you become a bus passenger... cause he takes you to school.

HAHHAHAHAHA

[litige]

True. But, it can also mean the person is as good as his armor looks. That's when you become a bus passenger... cause he takes you to school.

I don't get it. What does it mean?

[Paburo]

no hate on rich boy showoffs. but it would certainly be FUN to gyakudou and kaeshidou hell and back a richboy showoff with shark skin dou :D :D :D




unfortunately, the only ppl who wear that kind of dou that i know are hachidan, and i might as well get killed before getting to actually touch their dou. too bad.

[litige]

[QUOTE=Paburo]no hate on rich boy showoffs. but it would certainly be FUN to gyakudou and kaeshidou hell and back a richboy showoff with shark skin dou :D :D :D
QUOTE]

Or a kaeshi do so hard it would rip off the shark skin of the bamboo slats

[Hai_hai]

I don't get it. What does it mean?
This is what is referred to as trash talking.
I am implying that the person with the show-off bogu is teaching the other person because he is better than him. This is depicted via symbolism. The bus driver, or better kendoka, is taking the other person to school to receive education. The bus driver is not a teacher. It is more symbolic that the other person is a student and is being transported to school in order to receive education. It is an insult to say that one is not fully educated and therefore is being brought to school by the other kendoka, a bus driver. In America, Canada and other countries, some children are transported to school via a school bus.
Other insults based on this theme include "He took him to school", "You just got schooled", or "Here comes the bus driver".

[taiwnezboi]

This is what is referred to as trash talking.
I am implying that the person with the show-off bogu is teaching the other person because he is better than him. This is depicted via symbolism. The bus driver, or better kendoka, is taking the other person to school to receive education. The bus driver is not a teacher. It is more symbolic that the other person is a student and is being transported to school in order to receive education. It is an insult to say that one is not fully educated and therefore is being brought to school by the other kendoka, a bus driver. In America, Canada and other countries, some children are transported to school via a school bus.
Other insults based on this theme include "He took him to school", "You just got schooled", or "Here comes the bus driver".

HAHAHAHA oh man.. it usually isn't funny when you have to explain it.. but your explanation is hilarious

[litige]

Well thank you Hai_Hai ;-)

[Migoto]

This is what is referred to as trash talking.
I am implying that the person with the show-off bogu is teaching the other person because he is better than him. This is depicted via symbolism. The bus driver, or better kendoka, is taking the other person to school to receive education. The bus driver is not a teacher. It is more symbolic that the other person is a student and is being transported to school in order to receive education. It is an insult to say that one is not fully educated and therefore is being brought to school by the other kendoka, a bus driver. In America, Canada and other countries, some children are transported to school via a school bus.
Other insults based on this theme include "He took him to school", "You just got schooled", or "Here comes the bus driver".
Hai Hai,
You are too, too damn funny.
I have flashy bogu so that everyone wants to kick my a$$.

[kanyil]

This is what is referred to as trash talking.
I am implying that the person with the show-off bogu is teaching the other person because he is better than him. This is depicted via symbolism. The bus driver, or better kendoka, is taking the other person to school to receive education. The bus driver is not a teacher. It is more symbolic that the other person is a student and is being transported to school in order to receive education. It is an insult to say that one is not fully educated and therefore is being brought to school by the other kendoka, a bus driver. In America, Canada and other countries, some children are transported to school via a school bus.
Other insults based on this theme include "He took him to school", "You just got schooled", or "Here comes the bus driver".
excellent, reads like a page straight out of the Random House English Dictionary - Ghetto Edition.

[Dante]

This topic is so lame, we aint living in a fair world nothing you or i can do about it. And there is much more importent things than money in this world or how expensive bogu you have. If i have the money to buy a nice bogu why should i not buy it?

Even if this is written as a joke, its dead serious ppl get annoyed, and i get so annoyed on those who do ;) ("still on the sea of illusions")

If you think this way what about people with better genes that walks over your life each day, nothing you can do about that. Theres is always a chance to get rich but you can never get better genes.

[KevinF]

Dante,

You can let threads die... just don't respond - they will work their way to the bottom. There were were no posts on this thread for half a year....

Besides, it would be better served to add your two cents (euros?) to the "Why Americans Hate the French" thread under the flames section!

[Wifenmummy]

people are just jealous of people with expensive equipment.. or they think their pretty silly for buying something so pretty thats just going to get worn, whacked and smell funny by the end of the day.. or maybe people think beginners dont deserve to wear nice equipment.. *runs and hides*

[Gregory]

Well it wasn't a flashy bogu but last weekend at tournament there was a 10-12 year old kid with a carbon fiber shinai and i thought, "Now what the f**k does that kid need a $200 shinai for?" (He wasn't bad but wasn't amazing either).

Not so much in a rich boy show off sense but in a ... missing out on the idea. I mean... carbon fiber shinai is cool and durable but there is something to be said about taking care of a bamboo shinai. Besides that, the noise those things make is just... odd.


Well, I am a photographer, and I have a carbon fiber tripod that is about 900 dollars :) and the head of the tripod is another 700.

Then I have 1 camera (Film of course) that is 300 a lens that is 200 another lens that is about 6000 and another camera that is 1,500 another lens that is 400 and a few more lenses and umm....


Is that enough rich boy ness for you :)
But for the record, Ive been into photography for about 2 1/2 - 3 years and I am told that I have the "eye" and dont suck at it.
Also you said the definition was a person who has been doing kendo for 1 month but has 1000 dollars in stuff. So this isnt kendo so I cant be a rich-buy show-off :ogre:

[LNGUYEN]

Well, I am a photographer, and I have a carbon fiber tripod that is about 900 dollars :) and the head of the tripod is another 700.

Then I have 1 camera (Film of course) that is 300 a lens that is 200 another lens that is about 6000 and another camera that is 1,500 another lens that is 400 and a few more lenses and umm....


Is that enough rich boy ness for you :)
But for the record, Ive been into photography for about 2 1/2 - 3 years and I am told that I have the "eye" and dont suck at it.
Also you said the definition was a person who has been doing kendo for 1 month but has 1000 dollars in stuff. So this isnt kendo so I cant be a rich-buy show-off :ogre:

You are 15 years old. You are not professional photographer and with that much of equipment, You are RBSO

[drizzt]

Theres nothing wrong with buying quality equipment. I fly R/C plane, and am using a nearly 300$ radio system, were the averag is only about 100$. theres nothing wrong with me using the better oe, becauuse i actualy have a need for the features it provides, and will enjoy the benefits from having bought the top in the first place.

I take no issues with anyone wanting to buy very expensive amor, if they bought it because they felt like they were investing in a quality piece of equipment that would last them along time, and remain useful. Personaly i feel it very stupid to buy a cheap ""something"" and then have to replace it again down the road with a better ""something"", when if you had bought the better one in the first place, it still wouldnt need replacing. Better to spend 1500$ now( i made up a number) than to spend 500$, then another 1500$ down the road to replace the crappy 500$ one.....

[Gregory]

You are 15 years old. You are not professional photographer and with that much of equipment, You are RBSO


haha, If you knew how wrong you were :)

[Sepiraph]

Hai-Hai lives in a van, don't listen to him.

We dont have rich people in our dojo.

Most of our beginners start off with korean bogu for the price.

Wait, is it that van down by the river? :D

[Yiu Fai]

If I win the lotto, I will be buying 2 sets of the most expensive armour I can find. One will be for me, the other will be for Hai Hai, to make him a living example of the acronym which he created.

[Gregory]

One for me too right? RIGHT... DONT DO THIS TO ME YIU!!! DONT DO THIS TO ME!!!!!

[Gregory]

Wait, is it that van down by the river? :D


Cough SNL Cough

[drizzt]

If I win the lotto, I will be buying 2 sets of the most expensive armour I can find. One will be for me, the other will be for Hai Hai, to make him a living example of the acronym which he created.


i have a tuition bill i would be happy to let you have :)

[Gregory]

Is that like a travelers check?










:confused2:wink:

[Lloromannic]

Is that like a travelers check?
:confused2:wink:

No, it's what the school charges you for going there.

[Gregory]

ha

Thanks. ;)

[kuzu70]

I don't mind beginners with nice bogu. It doesn't make their kendo any better.

[Gregory]

I don't mind beginners with nice bogu. It doesn't make their kendo any better.

Same thing is said in photography. A better camera doesnt make you a better photographer.

Its not the camera, Its the eye

[ShinKenshi]

If someone wants to go and buy really expensive hand-stitched bogu then I say let them. It'll be their loss if they decide to stop and it will be their grief at wasting all that money. Alternatively if they stick with it then their bogu will last them pretty much the rest of their lives. I bought a basic 5mm machine-stitch and I'm happy with it. The only thing I'd consider upgrading would be my kote but that won't be for a few years. And as far as getting flashy do, why would you want to get something that would make it easier for your opponent to hit? Subtle colors like Commander's do I think are just fine, heck I'm even thinking about getting a dark blue do (in about 20 years if at all). Even that one handed Korean kendoka has a rather nice do. Bottom line is I don't think someone with really expensive bogu is showing off, it just shows they're willing to shell out a lot of money. Rather than gripe about that we should focus more on their skill as a kendoka.

[tokon]

i´m sorry, but this is really a stupid discussion!

it´s not that much time in the past, the only chance to get a bogu was to buy a handmade japanese one. you all know the price for this high end product. it was quite normal to get one!
time has changed! now everyone can buy a machine stitched bogu, even the less moneyed of us got the chance to get a cheaper bogu to learn and practice this fine martial art.

but like everywhere in the world. if you have money you will be punished by those who haven´t money. it´s like a stigma! envy is such a bad habit and it shows a negative mentality!

i´ve read the statement before! expencive bogu doesn´t make your kendo better! that´s true! but this statement is not the justification for those of you to prohibit people to buy the kendo stuff they want, only because it´s more expensive than yours. it´s his/her own decision how much he/she wants to spend for it! independent from the status of skills!
but criticizing a person, even if he/she is a beginner, just because he bought a hand-made bogu with a bamboo do or a carbon shinai is not only rude and stupid arrogance but also shows a negative weak mentality.

your goals should be to improve your skills and not judging other kendoka by their money/bogu/weapon!

[kuzu70]

you are right.

[drizzt]

He is absolutley right. buying high quality equipment is not a crime, its called an investment in quality(at least until the law of diminishing returns kicks in)

[Hai_hai]

He is absolutley right. buying high quality equipment is not a crime, its called an investment in quality(at least until the law of diminishing returns kicks in)
Buying high quality equipment has never been a crime. It's just that if you are beginner who wants to be a big fat show-off, it's uncool. Crime and uncool are two different things.

[drizzt]

if hes not trying to be a big show off, then its not un-cool either....

[Okori]

But i guess it makes you feel damn cool if you have the RBSO armour and no one else has...

But if you buy it just so you can say, hey, my armours 50 times better than yours or, look what mine has... then it just being bad.

That basically sums it all up.

[drizzt]

THAT attitude(the one you described) pisses me off. Like i said, i dont have an issue with the armour, but some of the atitudes that go with it.

[Lloromannic]

THAT attitude(the one you described) pisses me off. Like i said, i dont have an issue with the armour, but some of the atitudes that go with it.

That's why the term is Rich Boy Show Off (RBSO) and not Rich Boy With High Quality Equipment (RBWHQE)

[ScottUK]

My first set of bogu arrives tomorrow morning... I will feel like a RBSO for a day or so until I get the shit kicked out of me in it... :D

[drizzt]

That's why the term is Rich Boy Show Off (RBSO) and not Rich Boy With High Quality Equipment (RBWHQE)

BUT every time someone buys nice equipment on this forum, he gets branded a RBSO no matter what

[kendokamax]

BUT every time someone buys nice equipment on this forum, he gets branded a RBSO no matter what

ya
I think everyone on the US and Japan team was branded as RBSO by haihai
hahaha

[Hai_hai]

if hes not trying to be a big show off, then its not un-cool either....
Well, it's all surface when they "say" the don't want to be a show-off. Deep down inside, they want to look good.

[kendokamax]

haihai what kind of bogu do you own?
i'm sure compared to mine you are showing off!!

anyone who saw my bogu can attend that !

[Gregory]

God is allowed to show off

[drizzt]

maybe he will come in and spread some devine word soon......

[Gregory]

He already has, and ninjamaster is satan

[ScottUK]

God is allowed to show offIs God a Kendoka?

Sounds like religious teen bollocks to me.

I'm picturing Alanis Morissette (God in 'Dogma') with a bokuto in her hand...

[Gregory]

Im anything but religious :P

[h2o]

Is God a Kendoka?Well, I doubt that he plays football :D

[ninjamster15]

He already has, and ninjamaster is satanlol. Satan, huh?

[ScottUK]

He's dyslexic.

He meant Santa...!

[Gregory]

If by santa you mean lucifer, then yes!

You cant fool me ninja.

[piggy]

to bring this thread back on topic, i have uncovered the truth as to why people hate a RBSO.


long ago, in a time before the term RBSO was introduced and before sliced bread was discovered, there was a boy. this boy was practising in the dojo one day when a hooded messenger came in and told the boy to buy bogu. he said to the boy, "your time has come to buy bogu but if you want the ultimate bogu, you must travel up Mt. Everest on one foot with 87 pounds of cranberries on your back. only then will you be the best." so because the boy had nothing better to do with his saturday, he ate a cup of rice and began his jouney up the mountain. long story short, he made it to the top. an evil dragon gaurded the legendary bogu but the boy had a harpoon gun and soon ended the fight. with his new bogu, he returned to the dojo. unfourtunately, the bogu did not improve his skill but instead, turned him into a horrible jerk! because he had no respect, he was henceforth banned from the dojo. he lived the rest of his life in a cave in the bottom of a lake on the side of a volcano in south seattle.

to this day, the bogu and the boy still remain a legend but some say on cold nights, you can still hear him yell fom the cave on the bottom of the lake in the side of a volcano in south seattle, "i'm a jerk!!"

thats why noone likes RBSO.

[Gregory]

ahahahahahah

[drizzt]

to bring this thread back on topic, i have uncovered the truth as to why people hate a RBSO.


long ago, in a time before the term RBSO was introduced and before sliced bread was discovered, there was a boy. this boy was practising in the dojo one day when a hooded messenger came in and told the boy to buy bogu. he said to the boy, "your time has come to buy bogu but if you want the ultimate bogu, you must travel up Mt. Everest on one foot with 87 pounds of cranberries on your back. only then will you be the best." so because the boy had nothing better to do with his saturday, he ate a cup of rice and began his jouney up the mountain. long story short, he made it to the top. an evil dragon gaurded the legendary bogu but the boy had a harpoon gun and soon ended the fight. with his new bogu, he returned to the dojo. unfourtunately, the bogu did not improve his skill but instead, turned him into a horrible jerk! because he had no respect, he was henceforth banned from the dojo. he lived the rest of his life in a cave in the bottom of a lake on the side of a volcano in south seattle.

to this day, the bogu and the boy still remain a legend but some say on cold nights, you can still hear him yell fom the cave on the bottom of the lake in the side of a volcano in south seattle, "i'm a jerk!!"

thats why noone likes RBSO.

way to much freetime dude.

[piggy]

way to much freetime dude.


believe it or not, it only took me about 6 minutes to write while humming the "legend of zelda" theme the whole time. but yes, i guess i do have way too much free time...

[Flylkorean]

hahaha. With your freetime you should make some stuff . I believe that your gonna try to make wooden bogu stands ?

[piggy]

hahaha. With your freetime you should make some stuff . I believe that your gonna try to make wooden bogu stands ?

yes i am and i'll be more than willing to sell them to anyone thats interested. it will just take me awhile because i'm a perfectionist when it comes to woodshop. they wont be very expensive either. cost of the wood + shipping + 5 dollar (us) labour charge.

[Fonsz]

yes i am and i'll be more than willing to sell them to anyone thats interested. it will just take me awhile because i'm a perfectionist when it comes to woodshop. they wont be very expensive either. cost of the wood + shipping + 5 dollar (us) labour charge.
I was wondering are these bogu stands just for the purpose of showing them of or can you use them as practice dummy? I would like to have a practice dummy some time in the future.

[Flylkorean]

Bogu stants are made to hang your bogu and " show off" as you say. A practice dummy is completey different. You could easily make your own practice dummy by making a wooden base, wooden pole, and a cut off tire glued to the top of the pole.

[piggy]

I was wondering are these bogu stands just for the purpose of showing them of or can you use them as practice dummy? I would like to have a practice dummy some time in the future.

thats something that i was trying to incorperate into my origional design. the only difference was that i would put the kote behind the stand because of space reasons.

[drizzt]

I was wondering are these bogu stands just for the purpose of showing them of or can you use them as practice dummy? I would like to have a practice dummy some time in the future.

there is some practicalit behind a bogu stand to......better for drying than leaving it in a bag. but i would say mostly flash(althoug a sturdy PVC or wood one would make a decent dummy

[ShinKenshi]

Why use a stand when you can easily just pick an open spot on your floor, lay a small sheet down, and set your bogu on top of it just as you would before practice? That's what I do. Just my two cents.

[drizzt]

well, for space saving. IM going to build one for my dorm because i dont have the floor space to lay it out. that and here at home we have dogs.....wich like leather lol

[The great I AM]

I'm an RBSO. My Shiai bougu is true bling. My other two sets are average.


Bling me up Scotty!

[Kenshi]

[aimed generally] its not so much the bling of your bogu, but the dare of your men-chigawa that does it for me. thats real quality. real style. sexiness in a pretty much boring parade of blue and black.

[Andou]

I was wondering are these bogu stands just for the purpose of showing them of or can you use them as practice dummy? I would like to have a practice dummy some time in the future.

You know, you could just buy that kendo robot. I mean, since it's probably so cheap and all.

[Bingstock]

To all those boys that have rich parents consider getting the same bogu as mine:

http://www.bogubag.com/Bogu/Hand_Made/hirotsugu_L.jpg

notice the nice background :)
DO YOU GET A CAN OF THE RIPPING OCEAN WITH YOUR BOGU PURCHASE OR WHAT!!

[Kenshi]

heres a bad-boy KOURYU dou-design... more in the style of Mr The great I AM than myself im afraid:

http://www.kk-sanbu.com/topics/magazign/index.html

"the perfect image for doing kendo in japan" or something it says below. my translation sucks, where King Of M when you need him.

anyway, 1:47am...