View Full Version : Favorite kendo clips
Ayame
26th August 2004, 04:15 AM
Hey, Post links too you're favorite kendo clips, and maybe we'll end up with a pretty good collection!
Nanbanjin
26th August 2004, 07:51 AM
http://www.edu.city.kyoto.jp/hp/hiyoshi/movie/00kinki-shinohara.mpg
bullet08
26th August 2004, 12:00 PM
why does tsuki always look so painful.. but so cool..
kendokamax
26th August 2004, 03:27 PM
In most case it is painful :O
if not physicaly, mentaly!
uh anyway favorite video clip? man its hard to find good video clips on the web :(
Iviro
26th August 2004, 10:49 PM
Hey is that clip from this year's Kinki taikai?
kendokamax
27th August 2004, 01:56 AM
I dunno but they have clips from this year Inter Hi.
Only their girls team was qualified I think.
Iviro did you take some shiai video over there?
Nanbanjin
27th August 2004, 11:32 PM
Hey is that clip from this year's Kinki taikai?
Good spotting. It is the Kinki taikai, but from 2000.
http://www.edu.city.kyoto.jp/hp/hiyoshi/htm_jp/club/kendo/00kinki-dansi.htm
Nanbanjin
27th August 2004, 11:36 PM
This one's a classic for a showy one handed do (notice how nobody ever writes doh. Simpson's influence?)
http://www.edu.city.kyoto.jp/hp/hiyoshi/movie/02yosen-ku-hara.mpg
Ayame
28th August 2004, 07:58 AM
www.isenokami.com/Kendo/movies/ishida-men.mp4 (http://www.isenokami.com/Kendo/movies/ishida-men.mp4)
here's one of my favorite's, watch it in slow-mo...really neat fencing...
Iviro
28th August 2004, 11:00 PM
ah yah I saw that high-school from Kyoto they are pretty strong but its funny how most of those highschool kids can't keep a straight kamae for more than 3 seconds haha except for PL of course
Lloromannic
29th August 2004, 12:01 AM
http://media.virtuafighter.com/kendovids/
2004 ACT videos. Featuring forum member Kirby Smith.
And this one (http://www.halifaxkendo.org/images/ouch3.gif)
And this one (http://www.halifaxkendo.org/svm.exe) (not really a clip)
Nanbanjin
29th August 2004, 01:49 AM
ah yah I saw that high-school from Kyoto they are pretty strong but its funny how most of those highschool kids can't keep a straight kamae for more than 3 seconds haha except for PL of course
Real funny when they're beating the shit out of you.
Mike
29th August 2004, 02:14 AM
I've always liked this one for some reason, probably because they're two Swedish guys going at it. :)
http://www.umeakendo.org/clips/kendo_kaeshido.wmv
I haven't checked these yet, but here you should be able to find some kendo clips for the collection.
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=vid&cs=utf8&q=kendo&rys=0&_sb_lang=any
Iviro
29th August 2004, 08:09 AM
Real funny when they're beating the shit out of you.
ummm... lol... what?
Andoru
29th August 2004, 11:39 AM
Some of the best kaeshi-doh I've seen are from the All Japan, especially by Eiga.
Nanbanjin
29th August 2004, 03:33 PM
ummm... lol... what?
I get annoyed with people who are so quick to criticise (in your case laugh at) "high school kendo". How many seconds do you reckon you would last against even the girls?
Iviro
29th August 2004, 11:32 PM
I mean no disrespect but how many seconds did you think before you even made that post?
I guess I could explain to you but your PM is off and I do not want to start any trouble so I will retire from this topic.
Nanbanjin
29th August 2004, 11:37 PM
I mean no disrespect but how many seconds did you think before you even made that post?
I guess I could explain to you but your PM is off and I do not want to start any trouble so I will retire from this topic.
Nobody can use PMs on this forum, but spare me the misery in case you're tempted to post it here.
Nanbanjin
30th August 2004, 12:03 AM
I guess I could explain to you but your PM is off and I do not want to start any trouble so I will retire from this topic.
Passive agressive.
Lloromannic
30th August 2004, 12:42 AM
I get annoyed with people who are so quick to criticise (in your case laugh at) "high school kendo". How many seconds do you reckon you would last against even the girls? I agree with you. Unlike many of the people who criticise (sp?) high-school kendo, I have the opportunity to practice with high-school-kendo-types and I must say that they are brilliant. They hit me kote-men about 3 times before I am able to react. Perhaps the higher graded people (eg: the marstens) can confidently point out their flaws. But those of us in the lower end can't (well shouldn't) because simply put they are much better than us. Even if we use "real life fighting" examples (which I dislike) most of us would have bled to death from their "flicks and taps" long before we managed to get them.
And now for something relevant to the thread: Does anyone know of clips that show Miyazaki (Masahiro) hitting a good men (the beautiful big ones he does)
Nanbanjin
30th August 2004, 12:56 AM
I agree with you. Unlike many of the people who criticise (sp?) high-school kendo, I have the opportunity to practice with high-school-kendo-types and I must say that they are brilliant. They hit me kote-men about 3 times before I am able to react. Perhaps the higher graded people (eg: the marstens) can confidently point out their flaws. But those of us in the lower end can't (well shouldn't) because simply put they are much better than us. Even if we use "real life fighting" examples (which I dislike) most of us would have bled to death from their "flicks and taps" long before we managed to get them.
And now for something relevant to the thread: Does anyone know of clips that show Miyazaki (Masahiro) hitting a good men (the beautiful big ones he does)
Lloromannic,
Thank you for your erudite post. You are wise beyond your years.
Thank you also for spelling "criticise" correctly.
Lloromannic
30th August 2004, 01:53 AM
Thank you also for spelling "criticise" correctly.
My dictionary (Oxford) spells it criticize. Is this like the color/colour, aluminum/aluminium thing?
Andoru
30th August 2004, 01:57 AM
Americanised English vs King's (or Queen's) English
Lloromannic
30th August 2004, 02:52 AM
Americanised English vs King's (or Queen's) English
I think i'll stick with english(Queen's) english. My teachers would give me the cane otherwise.
reg
30th August 2004, 04:23 AM
I agree with you. Unlike many of the people who criticise (sp?) high-school kendo, I have the opportunity to practice with high-school-kendo-types and I must say that they are brilliant. They hit me kote-men about 3 times before I am able to react. Perhaps the higher graded people (eg: the marstens) can confidently point out their flaws. But those of us in the lower end can't (well shouldn't) because simply put they are much better than us. Even if we use "real life fighting" examples (which I dislike) most of us would have bled to death from their "flicks and taps" long before we managed to get them.
yes. they will beat you up before you can even blink. and that's just the girls.
And now for something relevant to the thread: Does anyone know of clips that show Miyazaki (Masahiro) hitting a good men (the beautiful big ones he does)
it would be difficult to find. miyazaki sensei was well-known for his ultra-fast men cut. so he wouldnt be doing big cuts.
Lloromannic
30th August 2004, 05:27 AM
it would be difficult to find. miyazaki sensei was well-known for his ultra-fast men cut. so he wouldnt be doing big cuts
I know he was very fast. But in quite a lot of pictures (in his book for example) he does big cuts(not kihon big but still quite big) at an incredible speed.
Iviro
30th August 2004, 11:22 AM
ah yah I saw that high-school from Kyoto they are pretty strong but its funny how most of those highschool kids can't keep a straight kamae for more than 3 seconds haha except for PL of course
P.S. Sorry to those who misunderstood this as criticism rather than a joke
kenshin13
30th August 2004, 02:32 PM
This one's a classic for a showy one handed do (notice how nobody ever writes doh. Simpson's influence?)
http://www.edu.city.kyoto.jp/hp/hiyoshi/movie/02yosen-ku-hara.mpg
Your not the only one. I spell it that way too.
jmarsten
31st August 2004, 11:31 AM
This is kind of an interesting thread. If you look at only the high school kendo and you don't see the better clubs you may think them to be very sloppy and not so good.
Firstly I had the good fortune to be a special guest at the Kanagawa Prefectural Junior Championships a few years ago. When you can see the transition from the little kids to the high schoolers all in one setting it is very enlightening. Essentially those who went forward and with quickness were awarded points and most points were unanimous. This develops the kendo towards speed and quickness. As they become big and strong through the intensive college programs you soon see not only fast kendo but very strong kendo.
At the premier high school programs the kendo training is very severe and those guys do really good kendo. It may look a little sloppy at times but when you are moving at warp speed that is not all bad.
I took my kids team when they were 12-15 years old for a two week training trip and we practiced at several schools in the Kansai area. My kids kicked butt at some schools and got their collective butts handed to them at other schools. One instance was a junior high that had the national champion girls team. They were bigger, stronger and quicker than my boys. They trounced us but we did beat the schools boys team.
We also went to Seifu HS which has a very, very good kendo program. I was kinda of feeling inadequet at first because these kids were nailing me right left and center until I looked over at the police hachidan who was my host. He wasn't doing any better. We are the same age so I felt much better about these kids picking me off with regularity.
Last year my son was training at a really strong HS in Chiba. They had kendo during the summer seminar from noon till 7 at night every day.
I don't know what it is like where the rest of you train and there are children in your club but all around the US I have seen clubs where the consistant message is to HIT HARD. This only creates slow clubbers. When they have a shiai only the hard hits are awarded points. The kids are really smart and do what gets rewarded to the detriment of their long term development.
People are always saying you have to swing really strong and hard with the sword. Horsepucky, a good sword cuts by itself. I cut through 5 blankets on the bed with one of my swords and the stroke was only about 6 inches and just the weight of the sword for power. I did not intend to do that and my wife was none too happy with me. But you do not need to swing hard to cut. Another thing I did test cutting was to try hiki waza and you can cut really well with that method.
However a shinai is not a sword and yada yada yada....Anyway these are my thoughts on high school kendo.
Nanbanjin
31st August 2004, 03:37 PM
This is kind of an interesting thread. If you look at only the high school kendo and you don't see the better clubs you may think them to be very sloppy and not so good.
Firstly I had the good fortune to be a special guest at the Kanagawa Prefectural Junior Championships a few years ago. When you can see the transition from the little kids to the high schoolers all in one setting it is very enlightening. Essentially those who went forward and with quickness were awarded points and most points were unanimous. This develops the kendo towards speed and quickness. As they become big and strong through the intensive college programs you soon see not only fast kendo but very strong kendo.
At the premier high school programs the kendo training is very severe and those guys do really good kendo. It may look a little sloppy at times but when you are moving at warp speed that is not all bad.
I took my kids team when they were 12-15 years old for a two week training trip and we practiced at several schools in the Kansai area. My kids kicked butt at some schools and got their collective butts handed to them at other schools. One instance was a junior high that had the national champion girls team. They were bigger, stronger and quicker than my boys. They trounced us but we did beat the schools boys team.
We also went to Seifu HS which has a very, very good kendo program. I was kinda of feeling inadequet at first because these kids were nailing me right left and center until I looked over at the police hachidan who was my host. He wasn't doing any better. We are the same age so I felt much better about these kids picking me off with regularity.
Last year my son was training at a really strong HS in Chiba. They had kendo during the summer seminar from noon till 7 at night every day.
I don't know what it is like where the rest of you train and there are children in your club but all around the US I have seen clubs where the consistant message is to HIT HARD. This only creates slow clubbers. When they have a shiai only the hard hits are awarded points. The kids are really smart and do what gets rewarded to the detriment of their long term development.
People are always saying you have to swing really strong and hard with the sword. Horsepucky, a good sword cuts by itself. I cut through 5 blankets on the bed with one of my swords and the stroke was only about 6 inches and just the weight of the sword for power. I did not intend to do that and my wife was none too happy with me. But you do not need to swing hard to cut. Another thing I did test cutting was to try hiki waza and you can cut really well with that method.
However a shinai is not a sword and yada yada yada....Anyway these are my thoughts on high school kendo.
Marsten Sensei,
Thank you for the personal insight on the topic.
I spent a year in Japan when I was sixteen/seventeen and I got whipped all the time even though the club wasn't regarded as particularly strong in the area I was staying. I was only a beginner, but it was certainly an eye opener. I used to perform quite well in Karate competitions back in Australia and probably thought I was a bit indestructible.
I really liked the attitude of the guys I used to train with too. In Australia playing other sports people often like to really rub it in if they can beat you. There was none of that with the kids I trained with in Japan. I guess that's just kendo.
Hearing people dismiss "high school kendo" has always annoyed me because I remember how good the kids I trained with were and how hard they trained. I know Japanese instructors sometimes lement about high school kendo, but in that case I can't help but feel that the criticism is paternal. A parent can criticise their own child, but the same criticism is a bit insulting coming from anyone else.
Peter
JByrd
1st September 2004, 03:03 AM
I don't know what it is like where the rest of you train and there are children in your club but all around the US I have seen clubs where the consistant message is to HIT HARD.
That's a tough distinction to convey, isn't it? You want them to swing freely and use their whole body to make a basic strike but you don't want them to hit so hard. To a lot of beginners those must seem like contradictory instructions.
Nanbanjin
1st September 2004, 11:02 AM
That's a tough distinction to convey, isn't it? You want them to swing freely and use their whole body to make a basic strike but you don't want them to hit so hard. To a lot of beginners those must seem like contradictory instructions.
I don't think it's really contradictory.
To swing freely you need to relax. Hard hits are the result of excess tension in specific muscle groups. To use your whole body isn't it necessary to relax these muscle groups?
fnieto
21st September 2004, 02:41 PM
Hey , check this out:
http://www.jccckendo.com/kendo/gallery/tournaments/ut2002/ThePhantomSteveLORESverC.wmv (http://www.jccckendo.com/kendo/gallery/tournaments/ut2002/ThePhantomSteveLORESverC.wmv)
forbidden
25th September 2004, 09:20 AM
this for sure :
http://kendoshop.com/etc-images/sample1.wmv
fe-taru tora
25th September 2004, 01:46 PM
http://www.edu.city.kyoto.jp/hp/hiyoshi/movie/00kinki-
shinohara.mpg
outch !!!!!!
KATSUJIN
26th September 2004, 07:10 PM
Hi to all!
I also dont think high school kendo should be criticised to this extent. Shouldn't you know the bad part before appreciating the good part? I had the wonderful opportunity to have some keiko with 2 high schools in Osaka abt a month back, I got whacked everywhere.. but loved it. Becos those students will throw everything they have at you. And I think tats the best part of them... :-)
fe-taru tora
27th September 2004, 06:35 AM
Hi to all!
I also dont think high school kendo should be criticised to this extent. Shouldn't you know the bad part before appreciating the good part? I had the wonderful opportunity to have some keiko with 2 high schools in Osaka abt a month back, I got whacked everywhere.. but loved it. Becos those students will throw everything they have at you. And I think tats the best part of them... :-)
I would love to get beat up by Japanese kendogans, I feel I would learn so much, as long as they don't kill me :smiley:
Wout
1st October 2004, 10:54 PM
well my teacher said to me that getting to 2nd dan is just about perseverence lots of training, a bit of speed and some endurance and attacking. So since high school kids can only train till nidan it's not so abnormal they do fast kendo with lot of attacking. Everyone starts with learning fast kendo (even if you think you are slow, just try to compare with how slow you were in the beginning) and starts with attacking first.
Stimpson J. Cat
2nd October 2004, 12:24 PM
This one's a classic for a showy one handed do (notice how nobody ever writes doh. Simpson's influence?)
If you meant me, no, that's giving me credit for way too much influence. I can't even get my kids to go to bed when I tell them to much less influence the spelling of a word across an internet forum. :smiley: Lots of other people spell it that way also, I think I picked up that spelling from e-bogu.com and eguchi.net.
Nanbanjin
3rd October 2004, 05:23 PM
If you meant me, no, that's giving me credit for way too much influence. I can't even get my kids to go to bed when I tell them to much less influence the spelling of a word across an internet forum. :smiley: Lots of other people spell it that way also, I think I picked up that spelling from e-bogu.com and eguchi.net.
Not unless your first name is Homer... Doh!
To be fair, I shouldn't have put an apostrophe before the 's'.
Marquis
4th October 2004, 02:37 AM
http://media.virtuafighter.com/kendovids/
I can't open the zipfiles from that site... when I download them winzip says it's no valid archive... i've tried to download it again but it doesn't help... does anybody know what's wrong?
Jarlaxle
4th October 2004, 09:31 PM
I really liked the red-bogu guy.Tsuki and doh , seems he kicks a$$.Also wearing a yellow tenugi ..curious about outlook.
Ishii
5th October 2004, 10:08 AM
http://kendoshop.com/etc-images/sample1.wmv
It's preview of The 51th Japanese Kendo Championships Video.
(with music looks cool)
[edit] I just noticed somebody posted it already.
Stimpson J. Cat
9th October 2004, 03:05 PM
Not unless your first name is Homer... Doh!
To be fair, I shouldn't have put an apostrophe before the 's'.I'm not surprised, I wasn't sure when I posted if it was Homer or a typo on my name. Hmm, I think mental health professionals call that "delusions of reference", but damn it, I know those people on TV are talking about ME!
Kyros Nighle
17th October 2004, 01:18 PM
please, anyone knows the title of the song played in?:
http://kendoshop.com/etc-images/sample1.wmv
Ishii
17th October 2004, 07:55 PM
I saw on the net 5 full cds with movies from 51th All Japan Kendo Championships. Check it out. Maybe in credits will be the list of music used.
Kyros Nighle
28th October 2004, 11:53 AM
no its not there,
any chance anyone knows the name of the song??
have you heard it anywhere else so i can look there for a name??
Jon P
7th November 2004, 02:41 PM
Ooooo Cool videos!
pierreabe
8th November 2004, 12:54 PM
This is Akihito ABE.
I took some kendo clips and put them on my page.
The 52th All Japan Kendo Championship
Final and 2 Semi-Final
Also you can watch the Final on AJKF page.
http://www.isenokami.com/Kendo/
Andoru
8th November 2004, 03:24 PM
Arigato gozaimasu!
pierreabe
8th November 2004, 06:46 PM
Dou itashimashite!
Lloromannic
14th November 2004, 01:15 PM
My new favourite clip. (http://lloromannic.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/degote.mpg) Featuring me in blue and someone else (I was nearly dead by then). Too bad the person who took it did not catch my spectacular fall some minutes before. Sensei tai ataried me and although I am a couple inches taller and a great deal heavier, he sent me sprawling some 15 meters.
I did not let go of the shinai though.
EzzzE
16th November 2004, 09:06 PM
http://kendoshop.com/etc-images/sample1.wmv
It's preview of The 51th Japanese Kendo Championships Video.
(with music looks cool)
[edit] I just noticed somebody posted it already.
anybody know the songs name in that vid ?
Ayame
12th December 2004, 05:52 AM
doesn't seem like it, I woud like to know too!
FallenAngel
14th December 2004, 09:35 PM
This one is my favourite :)
http://www.kendo-in-action.com/Eiga%20no%20tsuki.wmv (http://www.kendo-in-action.com/Eiga%20no%20tsuki.wmv)
Tangou Fudjin
16th December 2004, 06:11 PM
This one is my favourite :)
http://www.kendo-in-action.com/Eiga%20no%20tsuki.wmv (http://www.kendo-in-action.com/Eiga%20no%20tsuki.wmv)
great :ko:
FallenAngel
16th December 2004, 09:16 PM
And it doesn´t look painful, does it? ;)
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