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The Prisoner
11th September 2004, 05:22 AM
Sorry if this is a silly question, or if it has been asked before.

I've just had my first experience in bogu. Can anyone tell me how it should feel to receive men hits as I was getting hit on the top of the head all the time? After one or two hits I was seeing stars! Is this as it should be or was it the product of the men I was wearing not being a perfect fit (club bogu)?

If this is as it should be to be hit, are there any tried and tested ways of padding the men for those of us with "more sensitive" skulls?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Paikea
11th September 2004, 05:33 AM
It depends on your opponent, how well your men fits and your own head position. Try to keep your chin up (no pun intended), and add a folded tenugui between the top of your head and the men (some recommend a trimmed-up old neoprene mouse pad). If that fails, try a purpose-made men pad.

Be seeing you?

SuperTen
11th September 2004, 05:34 AM
Must admit I felt the same way with club bogu, but just purchased my own from e-bogu and its completely different.

P.S.

Didn't get charged any import duty either, just incase any brits are looking at ordering.:smiley:

Old Warrior
11th September 2004, 06:15 AM
The actual physical pain should be somewhat less than the pain of knowing that you let someone hit you. And the physical pain should be a reminder of the need to practice harder. But the bottom line is - get used to it, as long as you do kendo you will be hit and no matter how good you are there will always be someone better.

mark
11th September 2004, 08:28 AM
Ouch!!!
One of our members suffered a full blown concussion (medical diagnostic, hospital stay, MRI's and all) when he bent his head forward while receiving a heavy men hit during shiai. Concussions are quite dangerous and should not be taken lightly, see a doctor and buy a Men pad!

Almost all internet kendo equipment retailers sell Men pads that you can insert under the men for more protection. It cost about the same as a wrist protector and will make your Men a little more confortable. I've also heard that some kenshi insert a folded tenegui as a stopgap/more traditional measure. With the right pad in place you will hear the pop of the point and feel the sting of defeat. As it shoud be :ko:

Take care,
mark

Hyaku
11th September 2004, 08:37 AM
Ow, These gaikokujin piledrivers need more kakari geiko to get some forward motivation. I love the way my old teacher hits. Feels like the head is being slightly jerked back as he cuts through you.

The Prisoner
11th September 2004, 07:16 PM
Thanks everyone. Your help and guidance is much appreciated.

Musha
11th September 2004, 10:39 PM
I think it should be more the sound you hear when receiving a men cut than the feeling. If you have ever done golf driving it seems that you know when you have a good swing by the swoosh it makes :D. Any one cutting as if trying to knock your head lower down lower is cutting in the wrong way :D.

Although people are always complaining about wrist pain when practising Kote. I guess that can't be helped.

don quixote
11th September 2004, 10:57 PM
Seeing stars is not good, but a loud ringing noise in your ears is something you will have to get used to :).

Musha
12th September 2004, 03:45 AM
I'm not going to your dojyo then Don :D. Where do you practice Prisoner?

Hai_hai
12th September 2004, 04:14 AM
Sorry if this is a silly question, or if it has been asked before.

I've just had my first experience in bogu. Can anyone tell me how it should feel to receive men hits as I was getting hit on the top of the head all the time? After one or two hits I was seeing stars! Is this as it should be or was it the product of the men I was wearing not being a perfect fit (club bogu)?

If this is as it should be to be hit, are there any tried and tested ways of padding the men for those of us with "more sensitive" skulls?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
You could ask those in your class. Handle someone else's bogu.
Without seeing your rented bogu, I could not tell if someone is hitting you too hard or if your bogu doesn't have good padding.