Kaeshi vs Suriage

[Tato]

I'm rather lost whit those techniques.

Can someone here explain what're the differences between kaeshi and suriage waza?

In both cases the oponent shinai is deflected by a stroke (either at the begining of our cut like in Kata 5, or from scratch), I have some trouble diferenciating one from another. (And when and how to use them).

Thanks

Rei

[kendokamax]

correct me if im wrong

kaeshi waza is when you block then attack

sureage is just you deflect the shinai then attack

[gill]

Kaeshi waza is when you catch your opponents attack on one side of their shinai, and counter attack on the other side.

In Suriage waza you catch and cut on the same side of the shinai.

EG Kote Kaeshi Kote. As your opponent cuts Kote, catch their attack with the left side of your shinai. You then need to bring your shinai around theirs to strike their kote.

Kote Suriage kote. as your opponent strikes kote, deflect their cut using the right side of your shinai. You then have a direct line to strike their kote.

hope this helps

Gill

[stinkyKote]

another way of looking at it: Kaeshi waza involve a turning of the wrists and shinai- so you're almost blocking with your shinai sideways, and then turning pivoting it around your opponents shinai to make the strike-

[Kuri]

Kaeshi means returning, as in kiri kaeshi - returning cuts. You "block" the atack and use the energy to "return" with a counter attack.

Suriage means sliding up, as in suriashi - sliding feet. The deflection comes about from moving your shinai upward and having your oponent's shinai slide along/off yours.

The is the most basic understanding that I have of the words. If I've miss-interpreted the meaning of the word, please correct me.