Oki-Suburi

[2muchryt]

I have seen oki-suburi done two ways:

1: A "stretching" exercise while gripping the shinai,
the right hand moves down and touches the left hand.
2: A "cutting" exercise where the shinai is held in an orthodox
fashion.

Which one is correct?
Is oki suburi merely a stretching exercise ?
Are there 2 different approches?

[Ares2907]

Do you mean ookii (Âç¤*¤¤) - as in the japanese term for large?
I've never heard suburi called oki before, I'm assuming you mean jyoge-buri.
This is probably one of those cases where there are numerous ways of doing it and none of them are wrong. For mine, it's a warm-up exercise that resembles a cutting exercise, for warming up muscles used in the cutting action. Given there is no target for suburi, I'd be loathe to call it a cutting exercise, not that it really matters.

[2muchryt]

yes, sorry, for my incorrect romanji.
what i meant was "ookii" suburi.
mabye, in cali, the sensei's call jyoge-buri,
"ookii suburi" so us knukle head gaijin can get a grasp.
my question to you is:
what do you mean "there is no target for suburi"
that doesn't sound right. isn't suburi, in general,
the pratice of cutting ?
or is it only an exercise for "warming up muscles"?
and, when you do "jyoge buri" do you move your
right hand down next to your left ?
thank you for the reply.

[Danny Boy]

isnt Oki-Suburi a streching excercise when you simply...."swing" the shinai in a full arc (from the point where it touches the buttocks to the point where it is about to touch the floor in front of you) ?

Dan

[nodachi]

I thought the shinai was supposed to be swung until it was pointing at your imaginary opponents knee. Or at least that is what someone told me at one of my practices, but everyone seems to do things a little differently.

[Ares2907]

I should have said no target for jyoge/naname-buri. They are stretching/warm-up exercises. You can also do shomen-suburi etc etc which do have (imaginary) targets.
As for where your hands stop, afaik, they should stop at the natural extension of your arms, which is likely to be with the kensen at about knee level.

[Kuri]

Originally posted by 2muchryt
I have seen oki-suburi done two ways:
1: A "stretching" exercise while gripping the shinai,
the right hand moves down and touches the left hand.
.....
Doing this as a pure streching/warming up exercise is fine, if you remember that's all it is. Unfortunately, many beginners will fall into the trap of constantly sliding their right hand down the tsuka on a cut and not doing any tenouchi, because they become use to those dynamics. Just something to keep in mind.