Requirements for national team

[bokkenbreaker83]

i know it is a far way away from now, but wat r the requirements for the U.S. national team?

[joekc6nlx]

13th WKC: Team U.S.A. Selection Process.

Yoshiteru Tagawa, AUSKF VPCompetition reported that the 1st Kyoka Senshu Selection was successfully completed recently on October 23 & 24, 2004, in the Eastern and Western regions, respectively. The 2nd Selection [Kyoka Senshu] was proposed to be held in Chicago, IL., on April 10, 2005.

The 2005 AUSKF Championships rules and regulations were reviewed and finalized.

The North America Zone Countries in the iKF will be invited to participate in the Goodwill Division of the 2005 AUSKF Championships. The Final Kyoka Senshu Selection will take place on Labor Day weekend, 2005, at a place to be announced at a later date. Upon the recommendation of the 13th WKC-Team U.S.A. Manager Masashi Shikai, the Men's Team Coach Yuji Onizuka, and the Women's Team Coach Naomi Nishimoto, were approved by the AUSKF Board of Directors.

[bokkenbreaker83]

thnk u for ur post...does it list the requirements for being in it, like do u have to be a certain rank, or something

[Pan-Chan]

I've wondered what kind of rank requirments are needed to be on a national Kendo team as well. I'll be watching this post to see if that question is answered. :)

[joekc6nlx]

thnk u for ur post...does it list the requirements for being in it, like do u have to be a certain rank, or something
No, I'm sorry, it doesn't list them.

I don't know if they determine the teams based on rank or if they break them down into kodansha and mudansha.

You may want to go to the AUSKF website, then send them a question.

www.auskf.info

[Neil Gendzwill]

CKF requires nidan for the men's team and shodan for the women's. I think the last men's team the ranks ranged from 4-6 dan but the team before that we had a sandan or two.

The selection process was discussed previously (http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252).

[bokkenbreaker83]

thnx for that post neil, it helped a lot, and gave me the answer i was looking for, so rlly its not all that hard to get in....

[bokkenbreaker83]

how many ppl r usually on a national team

[Neil Gendzwill]

thnx for that post neil, it helped a lot, and gave me the answer i was looking for, so rlly its not all that hard to get in....
Don't confuse minimum requirements with "easy to get in". It's not easy. It's especially difficult if you don't live in a large kendo centre with easy access to lots of high-level sensei, opponents and tournaments.

PS for worlds, the team competition is between 5-member teams. Most countries send 9 or 10 people - 5 for team, 2 for alternates and the remainder who compete in the individuals.

[samurai999]

thnx for that post neil, it helped a lot, and gave me the answer i was looking for, so rlly its not all that hard to get in....

Oh really? Please enlighten me on how it is not hard to get on to the national team? If you mean to participate in the qualifying matches, you can participate if you meet the reqts. But it seems like you are implying that it is not hard to get on the team.

Edit-Question for you.. What rank are you?

Tim

[samurai999]

By the way, they already did the first round of eliminations for the US team. They are going to do the second round in April IIRC. If you want to see what you are going to be competing against when you try out, you should go see the other senshu tryout. I heard it was in New Jersey.

Tim

[kendokamax]

team japan must be huge....

[samurai999]

Sorry for the triple dip. I noticed that your age is 14. I am guessing that your rank is 1kyu at the most so therefore, you won't be able to tryout. But if you desire to try out in the future, i suggest you go take a trip to the place where the tryouts are being held and watch.

Tim

[bokkenbreaker83]

im not saying its easy to get in, but the requirements arent that hard, trust me i can imagine how hard it would be to win nationals. actually, i have started kendo so im nowhere near 1stkyu.

[bokkenbreaker83]

*i havent started kendo

[kendokamax]

start it already !!! :smiley:

[bokkenbreaker83]

i have to wait until wrestling season is over...

[misterkurukuru]

good lord...

[samurai999]

im not saying its easy to get in, but the requirements arent that hard, trust me i can imagine how hard it would be to win nationals. actually, i have started kendo so im nowhere near 1stkyu.

Well, if you haven't started kendo yet, you can't really understand how hard practices are and how hard people compete and train to get to that level. If you underestimate what is coming up ahead, you will get it all in the end later.

Sorry for the harsh comments, but even with a wrestling background, it is very difficult to make any team nonetheless the US team. Lots of these people who tryout for the Worlds and even for the US Championships train their asses off for years hoping for a chance. Think of it as the Olympic trials on the down low. So while your interest in being on the US team is admirable, you need to start one step at a time. While you maybe able to use some instincts from wrestling, you gotta learn it like the rest of us did.

EDIT-One more thing, being in kendo is not ALL about being on a team or being the champ. If you go into kendo thinking that, you will not get too far.

Tim

[Mikeyprime]

I've wondered what kind of rank requirments are needed to be on a national Kendo team as well. I'll be watching this post to see if that question is answered. :)
Shodan is minimum to be eligible for the eliminations. Our average team is ually betweeen 4-6 dan. I believe in the 2000 team we had a sandan or 2.

[Holmgren-san]

bokkenbreaker:

Like just about everyone here has said, it is not as seemingly simple as it sounds....

I have been doing for about 9 months now, and I'm still at what would be considered the lowest rank(aside from somebody who has just started), 6th kyu-or rokkyu(although, I am in bogu since October). If someone were to ask me(just by lack of knowledge of my rank) if I were in, say, the shodan-nidan division, I'd have a pretty good laugh, because it's just impossible right now at my level.

Went alittle off-topic there, sorry about that. I'm just trying to explain the amount of strenuous practice, effort, commitment, endurance, pain(Yes) and patience(for some) that goes into the kendo of those who are in the regional tournaments, let alone the national team. These people (Neil and others, please correct me if I'm wrong) have put easily a good 1/2-2/3 of their lives(normally around 15-25+) into this art.

In some sports, it's much easier for instance: a good friend of mine has been doing cross-country for only a year now, and he has already made it to team captain. Again, off-topic, I'm struggling to find an adequate example.

So in short, asking about requirements for the national team before you have even started would be like someone coming to your school(assuming that's where you wrestle) and asking to sign up for the first time while also trying to get info for the requirements for the Olympic wrestling division.


-Holmgren-san

[misterkurukuru]

most of you guys will never make the team either so give the kid a break. hey kid, practice 4-6 times a week for 12 years and you will have a good chance to make the team. my friend who was shodan missed the cut by one slot. he beat nishimoto sensei in the tryouts to win the last spot, but then nishimoto sensei won the USA championships and took the spot back. And the USA champ has to be on the team cause well, he is the champ! plus nishimoto sensei was a mad man that day!!!! sucks for my friend becuase they should have taken them both (even though i beat my friend at the same USA championships but in the SR youth division). so one day if this kid practices hard enough he may make the team. cut him some slack hommies!

[Stephen]

Aim for the stars as even if you miss, you might still land on the moon:wink:

[Louis X]

And even if you can't make the US team, get married in a very small country where they don't do Kendo and make your own team :D ;)

[Hai_hai]

i know it is a far way away from now, but wat r the requirements for the U.S. national team?
Japanese last name.

[samurai999]

Hope i wasn't too harsh. If i was, i apologize. But, like I said before, if you want to make the US team, go to the 2nd USA team tryouts and watch as a first step. You can learn a lot.

Tim

[bokkenbreaker83]

thnx for all ur posts, i guess i rlly wont understand how much training u guys rlly put into kendo until i start, dont get me wrong, lol again:silly: its ok samurai999, martial arts do take a lot of time and concentration, hopefully one day i might be on the us team but until then im gonna train hard and try my best.:)

[Holmgren-san]

Like samurai999 said, I apologize if I was harsh. It was just an odd question that caught me by the tail. It's good to set goals like you're doing because you just may get what you hoped for. I was just trying to explain that's it's anything but easy. :ko:



-Holmgren-san

[Hai_hai]

Why apologize? The punk was asking for it and he got what he deserved.
I'm a ninja and I know these things. He's lucky I wasn't in my "shuriken-throwing" mood.

[kendokamax]

thnx for all ur posts, i guess i rlly wont understand how much training u guys rlly put into kendo until i start, dont get me wrong, lol again:silly: its ok samurai999, martial arts do take a lot of time and concentration, hopefully one day i might be on the us team but until then im gonna train hard and try my best.:)


first step is to have zanshin: write "you" not "u"!

[samurai999]

hopefully one day i might be on the us team but until then im gonna train hard and try my best.:)


Thats all any sensei (or anybody playing) would ask for. Its good to aspire but not to be full of ones-self. haha

Tim