Fighting

[Richiro]

I had a problem with a guy at my school so During first period( p.e.) in the locker he said somthing to me that just pissed me of. so we started a to "fight" but it ended qiuckly after he hit me (unluckily for me in the face) and somone broke it up.

Now everyone thinks that he "beat me up" in the locker room. His hit was more like a tap, and left nothin but my eye red for a few minutes. I know that he's not that strong so i plan on fighting him again, only with more people to witness it so no body thinks that any thing that didnt happen, happend.

He's been talking a lot of trash the last two days but at the same time he has been avoiding me cause he knows i want to fight again. This has really ruined my reputation, so there's nothing i can do but fight him.

But there are some people on my side that hate him and really want me to win.

So what are your thoughts on this situatuion? What would you do?

[Twobitmage]

Is it really worth it to fight him?

A bunch of times there were people I wanted to beat the up, people I KNEW I could beat up. But I never once did it. I've seen (several) people who lost their temper and went through with it and got expelled and arrested, and this was in high school. If I fought every time I wanted to in high school my nickname right now would probably be fresh fish rather than twobitmage.

Pardon my french but my advice is just to chill out and say "**** it". I guarantee that whatever gossip is going around about you will not matter ten years from now.

[kuzu70]

Hey Richiro, this is a tough situation. I think you already shown that you can stand up to this dude. He is now avoiding you and is afraid. Just let it go. Who cares what other people are thinking. Other people are way too selfish to think about you, because they are busy thinking about themselves.

Now if this dude comes up to you and starts some $hit, knock him out!

[Richiro]

I dont know if i can! I've been trying to let it go but no matter what i think about that "fight" keeps poppin up in my head. But u guys are right if something happend and i ended up killing him or somthing i dont ant to go to jail for the rest of my life. I hope this goes away. This week sucks!

[KOMA]

I had a problem with a guy at my school so During first period( p.e.) in the locker he said somthing to me that just pissed me of. so we started a to "fight" but it ended qiuckly after he hit me (unluckily for me in the face) and somone broke it up.

Now everyone thinks that he "beat me up" in the locker room. His hit was more like a tap, and left nothin but my eye red for a few minutes. I know that he's not that strong so i plan on fighting him again, only with more people to witness it so no body thinks that any thing that didnt happen, happend.

He's been talking a lot of trash the last two days but at the same time he has been avoiding me cause he knows i want to fight again. This has really ruined my reputation, so there's nothing i can do but fight him.

But there are some people on my side that hate him and really want me to win.

So what are your thoughts on this situatuion? What would you do?
Why dont you have a kendo match with him?

[Richiro]

I cant do that! He doesn't practice kendo so it wouldn't be fair. Plus hed just make excuses.

[AkuSokuZan]

Richiro,

I think I can understand your situation seeing as I've been in it once (Not excatly the same, but the same thoughts passing through my head). I won't tell you what will happen, the consequences, or other things that will happen when you start a fight. It really is your choice. All I want you to do, is think whether or not it is really worth it. Knowing, and having people knowing that you can beat people up is meaningless. I know it's hard to just drop it and walk away. Every time you see that person, just try and think, wouldn't you show a stronger strength if you walk away? Remember, in Kendo, what do we do in a fight? We learn more about ourselves, we do shiai to develop who we are. A commom school fight will not do that! You say you become very angry evertime you see him. Why not channel that anger into determination for Kendo? I didn't realise any of this when I was in your shoes. That time, I cracked. I didn't start a fight, but, I did try and get at him. After that experience, I had realised that what I did was stupid. It served no purpose.

Richiro, once again, it really is your choice. Please, try and think about it. If you are to overcome this, it *will* take A LOT of perseverence, patience, and self-control. Just try and remember what kendo teaches us. The AJKF's concept of Kendo includes:

"To hold in esteem human courtesy and honor,
To associate with others with sincerity,
And to forever pursue the cultivation of oneself.
This will make one be able:
To love his/her country and society."

As I have said before, please, do try and think about it. I'm sure it would help if you did. Choose for yourself Richiro, and try to imagine what would be the best situation for you.

[ISSAC RU]

dash him into the trash..
show no mercy

[Twobitmage]

I know its tough but you just gotta do it.

You're a smart guy. I know that you know what the right thing to do is. You can try to lie to yourself and think that fighting is the way out, but YOU know that its not smart, and you cant run from yourself.

I just confused myself. I think i'm gonna lie down.

[Wout]

try to be omnipresent in his schoollife, people will notice he's trying to avoid you. Either he'll try to fight you again or he'll lose the attitude.

[kanyil]

Walk away from the fight?

If the above is not "tough-men" enough for you, then do the following:

Provoke him into fighting you again in public. Let him strike the first blow without fighting back. Fake grievous injury and near death (ouch my neck, my kidney), get the cops involved, insist on pressing charges, threaten the school to dispel him or be sued, and then get a lawyer who works on a contingency basis to sue his family for physical and *severe* emotional distress.

By the time he gets out of juvenile hall and his family gets our of bankruptcy from your claim and the attorneys' fees OR the settlement you would have realized that the first option is probably a better idea.

*Note: The above is meant to be facetious and not intended to be legal advice under any circumstances. I am not licensed to practice in the U.S.A. not am I qualified to dispense any US related legal advice in relation to any issue.

[kanyil]

That should read "expel him", not "dispel him". Only magic spells get "dispelled". :D

[Richiro]

Well I didn't fight him. He left school early because he found out that i was there! No body actually beleived it! They just asked what happend and i told them that he didn't beat me up. But there were also a lot of rumors saying he gave me a black eye and I cryed. Or that I was holding my eye all day because it hurt.

Now he's scared because he knows its not all true. I dont even really want to fight him anymore. Maybe just a little, but i can control it.

But theres still tons of people that want me to beat him up. I mean a lot! at least 20 people were trying to set up dates and times for fights between me and him. And only 2 people are against me, him and his best friend.

Summary.
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I didn't fight him and i don't think i want to any more.

[Hisham]

You did well not to fight, street fights have no rules as we all know, the outcome could be a pretty sad one especially if guns are involved.

[streetcleaner]

Now everyone thinks that he "beat me up" in the locker room. His hit was more like a tap, and left nothin but my eye red for a few minutes. I know that he's not that strong so i plan on fighting him again, only with more people to witness it so no body thinks that any thing that didnt happen, happend.

He's been talking a lot of trash the last two days but at the same time he has been avoiding me cause he knows i want to fight again.

just stop him and fight. you dont need any preparation for this. otherway you'll be a looser. its just as simple. just fight

[Richmond-san]

Streercleaner is off his rocker. I have been a few fights myself so I can understand the value of knocking an obnoxious person down a few pegs but all the times I did fight I came to regret in the end. Even if no one else sees you as the bigger person, what is most important is that you know you are a stronger and more mature person than he is. But, do what you feel is the right thing to do.

Richmond-san

[Twobitmage]

just stop him and fight. you dont need any preparation for this. otherway you'll be a looser. its just as simple. just fight

Continue with your current course of action, otherway you will be a looser.

I wont lie to you, you'll have satisfaction if you punch the guy out but the hell of worrying whether you'll get caught or awaiting your punishment WHEN you get caught (notice I said when) is not worth it.

[AkuSokuZan]

just stop him and fight. you dont need any preparation for this. otherway you'll be a looser. its just as simple. just fight
Who is this guy??

[Rurouni Kenshin]

Dude what the f*** are you thinking wanting to get a revenge fight for something that didnt hurt you bad; its not like he beat up your pregnant sister or anything................

Just let it go...........at least you know you can take him and that is all that matters; you dont need to show off.............dont care what other ppl think...........

A 'reputation' is not a good thing to have.................

IF he starts another fight on the other hand - then even dont hit him back. Just stay tuff grab him and fake a punch and stop, dont hit him, and see his reaction if he got scared or not. Then tell him hes not worth it and make it clear in front of everybody that if he'll ever bother you again you'll beat him senseless................It will embarres him and probably that will hurt him more than a real punch.............. without any violence involved.

[Richiro]

Good point. thanks for the help.

[captain hansoku]

just stop him and fight. you dont need any preparation for this. otherway you'll be a looser. its just as simple. just fight damn right..rock his world
in my day, if you didn't fight you are insta-loser

beat the bish

[Rurouni Kenshin]

damn right..rock his world
in my day, if you didn't fight you are insta-loser

beat the bishWhat kind of socalled martial artist would provoce a fight and actually try to get into 1...........jeez.................. You always try to avoid a fight unless its forced upon you and can in no way avoid it and have to protect yourself and your loved ones............

In my my book anyone who tries to provoce a fight to show someone off is an insta-loser

[DarthMaul]

Option A:

Make sure there are alot of people around. Make sure there are no teachers around. Challenge him to a fight. While fighting, taunt him, play around with him. Jab his face a few times. Kick his legs with your shin. Then grab him from behind the head with your arms and pull his head down and knee his face repeatedly. Last, but not least, elbow his face a few times. Once he is down, laugh at him and spit in his face. Don't forget to do the evil scientist laugh too. Make sure you're friend has a stereo around to play really cool music for the overall theme and mood. If you are extremely confident you will win, you might want to have your friend book bets before hand.

Option B:

Start wearing a dress.

Option C:

Go around acting like you know you could really beat him up and hurt him except that your are too honorable to do such a thing. You might also want to start wearing your martial arts uniform to school.

[drizzt]

i love people who have never been in a knockdown, bareknuckles brawl giving advice(im hoping it was ALL meant to be fecitous and not literal.....please god)
look man, ignore him. sounds like hes a little prick who makes up for his "lacking"(not infering nything....no me never.....)by causing issues. ignore him and will piss him off more.

on the other hand if he starts a fight again remeber this, you hav three hgood hits before he can start yelling assault and not self defense. as dirty as it sounds, hit him square on the end of the nose, right below the sternum, and if it takes it , a sharp rap to the um.......well you get my meaning. those are the three most sensitive, and painful areas on a guy to hit. If it comes to blows, dont get carried away. end it quickly, but hurt him badly enough that the issue will be settled........and if hes dumb enough to come back for more do it again. he will get the point after a while(i layed a guy out onetime......he blind sided me in a bathroom one day. put a fist right on his nose. he never came back for seconds either............). Actualy fighting is the single worst thing you can do with people like this bonehead, but if it comes to it, make an impression

[Light Samurai]

Good point. thanks for the help.A warrior understands timing and rhythm, good times and bad. One time me and my friend had a fist fight for fun, I'm like 120 pounds, and he;s 150-160ish. He hit me in the Jaw, and I stayed up, it was a full force fight. I now know that I can stand up to people, and live. But I also know not to show off, afterall, the point is to stop a fight before it starts.
Sorry if this made no sense...
Peace.

[Optomitrist]

lol streetcleaner your always trying to soil someones life. haha

kanyil, Everyone has gone through your age at some point in time. I used to get picked on back in the day. Also by 14 I was a second dan black belt in taekwondo. I could have jammed my fist into their chests and went to work... but I didn't and I'm glad I didn't. There are always going to rotten apples who really need to get a good beating, but as long as you know who is better there really is no need for it. I dont know if you will grasp this yet, it took me till about 17 before I realized it really didn't matter what other people thought. All of that good high school drama is pointless. Don't get worked up about it.

[kanyil]

lol streetcleaner your always trying to soil someones life. haha

kanyil, Everyone has gone through your age at some point in time...
Umm, did I miss something somewhere? :D

(btw, I wish I was back in high school age)

[nalogg]

I had a problem with a guy at my school so During first period( p.e.) in the locker he said somthing to me that just pissed me of. so we started a to "fight" but it ended qiuckly after he hit me (unluckily for me in the face) and somone broke it up.

Now everyone thinks that he "beat me up" in the locker room. His hit was more like a tap, and left nothin but my eye red for a few minutes. I know that he's not that strong so i plan on fighting him again, only with more people to witness it so no body thinks that any thing that didnt happen, happend.

He's been talking a lot of trash the last two days but at the same time he has been avoiding me cause he knows i want to fight again. This has really ruined my reputation, so there's nothing i can do but fight him.

But there are some people on my side that hate him and really want me to win.

So what are your thoughts on this situatuion? What would you do?
It would show more character if you'd just tolerate him. If you must, use your words instead of your hands. the law is on your side if he decides to touch you.

Fighting someone is the easy thing to do. The hard thing is to try to understand the person and become his friend.

[Anjin-san]

Man I understand this soooo well, and back when I was in your situation I'd charge right in full tilt.

Nowadays if I started fighting at every opportunity it would be almost three or four nights per week.

If a guy steps to me now I take one of two options, depending on the situation. I mostly go for a)

a) Befriend him straight away. Tell him whatever the hell he wants to hear to get him to calm down and find some common ground immediately. There's absolutely nothing wrong in this as the frame is set by you, and he's in it, not the other way around. So you should be thinking

'I don't have time for this crap, lets get him on my side so its over and done with and I can get his girlfriend to come check out the VIP room with me'

rather than

'Man thats one big mofo, I'm scared, I better be his friend before he breaks me in two'.

b)Whatever beef he has with me, I'll stand up straight, look him dead in the eye, project my voice and very slowly say:

'I'm sorry about this misunderstanding, I'm going back to my friends now'

if he doesn't accept that...

'Do you want me to apologise twice?'

and then if he's still pushing and shoving, then my guess is it will have to come to blows... however it NEVER HAS since I started doing this, and this happens all the time when you go to clubs and try to chat up large mixed groups. As long as you don't show fear, you're respected.

For your situation you can get out of it non-violently and keep your rep. If anyone ever says 'hey, i heard you were crying like a little girl when he gave you a black eye' just say 'yeah sure man, thats why he goes home early when he's supposed to be fighting me'.

Or if he starts mouthing off about you in any way then just take it like it is, he's like a little kid trying to get back at you for stealing his lunch money. Just don't take him seriously anymore. If your friends are like all 'kick his ass, blah blah blah' just say to them 'kick who's ass? that guy? man its not even worth my time.'

[Kendo-Militia]

Fighting is never good. No matter how good you think you can fight, there will be some nut crazier than you.


At this point no matter what you do, it's not worth it. I've been in my share of fights growing up. You have 1 chance to make your point and that's it. Let me ask you this, What if next time you get punched a few more times? I know we all have pride but how do you know if that pounch was lucky or not? How do you know you weren't the one who was lucky and didn't get his nose or jaw broken? It's not worth getting into trouble. And if you keep looking to fight, it will escalate to weapons. And you don't want to be caught bringing a knife to a gun fight. It's not worth it.

[Optomitrist]

Umm, did I miss something somewhere? :D

(btw, I wish I was back in high school age)

Oops sorry kanyil, I wasn't pointing at you lol.

[captain hansoku]

What kind of socalled martial artist would provoce a fight and actually try to get into 1...........jeez.................. You always try to avoid a fight unless its forced upon you and can in no way avoid it and have to protect yourself and your loved ones............

In my my book anyone who tries to provoce a fight to show someone off is an insta-loser sure sure, i agree, never provoke a fight, but thats not what I was saying ass clown

I'm saying, if the guy pushes you around, and wants to fight, why run away like some pansy? I say if someone wants to fight, show him what you're made of. I'd much rather get beat up with my pride intact, as opposed to running away with my tail between my legs.

p.s. I think you meant to say "provoke" not "provoce"

[Ninjujinkaku]

Fight is really spirit vs spirit, who ever has the most spirit ie the will to cause the most pain and damage and take the most pain and damage as well as the motivation to cause it, will usually win. The motivation for this fight is pretty weak, there no real point to it except for tit for tat.

[Anjin-san]

I'd much rather get beat up with my pride intact where's the pride in beating someone/being beaten into submission?

Have you ever actually been in a fight? And I don't mean like a stupid slapping match where you're not quite sure whether you want to hit each other. I mean like rolling around on the floor, punching each other in the face with no one there to stop it.

Have you ever hit someone over and over again until you realised you'd gone too far but couldn't stop yourself? Or how about the other way around, where you decide to yourself that 'These guys are going to keep kicking me in the head until I die, but there's nothing I can do except lie here, take the beating, wait until they leave and try to stay conscious.'

Lots of pride there, oh yeah, its like the double whopper with cheese of pride.

[Richiro]

where's the pride in beating someone/being beaten into submission?

Have you ever actually been in a fight? And I don't mean like a stupid slapping match where you're not quite sure whether you want to hit each other. I mean like rolling around on the floor, punching each other in the face with no one there to stop it.

Have you ever hit someone over and over again until you realised you'd gone too far but couldn't stop yourself? Or how about the other way around, where you decide to yourself that 'These guys are going to keep kicking me in the head until I die, but there's nothing I can do except lie here, take the beating, wait until they leave and try to stay conscious.'

Lots of pride there, oh yeah, its like the double whopper with cheese of pride.
Yes I have been in plenty of fight and every time i did the same thing, I fought the person. I really needed some advice this time because i was really really mad. Madder than i've ever gotten over a fight. Plus I couldn't ask any one else because they have already told me i should fight him. And i havent toldmy step dad about the "fight" we had at school either. I had avoided a couple of fights this last year but so times i have to fight, and this was one of those times. now i really dont even care about the inccedent anymore. I dont have to fight him, and i dont want to anymore. Even though he claims he won he is avoiding me and hasn't talked and trash or said anything to me in a week

[captain hansoku]

where's the pride in beating someone/being beaten into submission?

Have you ever actually been in a fight? And I don't mean like a stupid slapping match where you're not quite sure whether you want to hit each other. I mean like rolling around on the floor, punching each other in the face with no one there to stop it.

Have you ever hit someone over and over again until you realised you'd gone too far but couldn't stop yourself? Or how about the other way around, where you decide to yourself that 'These guys are going to keep kicking me in the head until I die, but there's nothing I can do except lie here, take the beating, wait until they leave and try to stay conscious.'

Lots of pride there, oh yeah, its like the double whopper with cheese of pride. <--- you're obviously the kind of pansy that runs away from fights, rather than standing up for yourself like a man. If you don't stand up for yourself, you never will. So quit running away and making excuses.

if you've exhausted every peaceful option, like trying to reason with the ass hole or even trying to outwit him, and he wants to fight, and is provoking you, why not fight back?

When did I say pound the guy into submission? Huh? WTF! My experience, which is a lot with highschool/bar fights, is that most cowards are all talk. Someone punches you, what you gonna do? Stand there and take it? I say give him one better! And I think a lot of people will agree with me.

All I'm saying is, if you're in a fight, and someone's provoked it, don't be an idiot and talk yourself out, because you're just going to set a bad example for yourself! Stand up and be a freakin man!

I think there is a lot of pride to be had in standing up for yourself in a fighting situation. But I guess you're just a coward, so go eat your double whopper kiddo. I've had to stand up for my friends in fights; friends that are smaller than me, and did nothing to deserve the pain they went through just because they were different or weak. I was able to stand up for these people because at some point in my childhood I stood up for myself first. Guess I grew up in tough times, and I didn't have internet superstars telling me to go all Zen and reason my way out of fights. phhhht, oh please...

[captain hansoku]

Yes I have been in plenty of fight and every time i did the same thing, I fought the person. I really needed some advice this time because i was really really mad. Madder than i've ever gotten over a fight. Plus I couldn't ask any one else because they have already told me i should fight him. And i havent toldmy step dad about the "fight" we had at school either. I had avoided a couple of fights this last year but so times i have to fight, and this was one of those times. now i really dont even care about the inccedent anymore. I dont have to fight him, and i dont want to anymore. Even though he claims he won he is avoiding me and hasn't talked and trash or said anything to me in a week so don't fight him. But if he comes looking for one, stand up for yourself. I don't mean you have to knock his lights out if he trash talks you, but if this guy comes in hard on you first, well...

props to you man (and you're handling this like a man, good stuff). Be brave, and be safe k?

[DarthMaul]

Stand up and be a freakin man!
Atlas Master, we shall have our revenge!

[Anjin-san]

I dont have to fight him, and i dont want to anymore. Even though he claims he won he is avoiding me and hasn't talked and trash or said anything to me in a week. Good plan.

I'm a big macho man, don't mess with me... blah blah You go man, stand up for yourself. Its your destiny man, you'll die with pride, in a bloody pool of your own filth. Go for it! :)

Me I'm a total coward. While the big real men are out fighting, I'm doing my hair, applying my skin cream, and taking their women.

Seriously though, I feel for you man. I may not be a big tough guy like you, but I think you might need councilling. Or maybe its a shower room thing? Don't worry man, size doesn't matter, its all technique.

I hope you can get over your demons and you stop trying to kill everyone all the time. Remember... technique!

[nalogg]

While the big real men are out fighting, I'm doing my hair, applying my skin cream, and taking their women.

hahahahaha that's gold!

[crabbi]

try to be omnipresent in his schoollife, people will notice he's trying to avoid you. Either he'll try to fight you again or he'll lose the attitude.I have just read through this thread and I feel that the advice given by Wout-San is by far the most mature...

By doing nothing you put him on the defensive... he is expecting you to react... just be there... smile knowingly... be the better man...

...and whatever you do... Never, never, never take advice from some of our smaller-brained colleagues on this forum (I think you can guess who I mean!)... that is the road to the gutter (where you could always join them and roll around in the muck for a while... but the fun wears off before the stench does...).

You're doing well mate... keep it up!

Cheers

crabbi

[Wout]

I have just read through this thread and I feel that the advice given by Wout-San is by far the most mature...

Actually I think it's a little childish to do (because it's actually a game/role you're playing), but you'll come out as the more mature person to the other people.

but sometimes you'll have to think "life's a stage so let's play the game"

[crabbi]

Actually I think it's a little childish to do (because it's actually a game/role you're playing), but you'll come out as the more mature person to the other people.

but sometimes you'll have to think "life's a stage so let's play the game"
...Life is a performance ... not a rehearsal ...

Mind games are a more mature approach, show more self control and demonstrate a better understanding of the situation...

Also, mind games inflict far more suffering on the victim...

crabbi

[Wout]

Hmm this game just straightens the situation as it should be, without much physical or mental suffering on both sides, I think. Except for the guys hurt ego, because his 15 mins of sense of invincibility are over.

Most of the times people make the mistake of too much trying to get back at the person that they get in trouble themselves.

[crabbi]

Hmm this game just straightens the situation as it should be, without much physical or mental suffering on both sides, I think. Except for the guys hurt ego, because his 15 mins of sense of invincibility are over.

Most of the times people make the mistake of too much trying to get back at the person that they get in trouble themselves.
Absolutely Wout-San... using the mind game the original aggressor is actually going to 'beat himself up'... this saves our colleague a lot of bother and he can sit back and enjoy...

crabbi

[Wout]

good point though: that life is the performance and not the rehearsal, even though it's not always true (childhood is actually the rehearsal for the game of life, as a matter of fact I think life itself is and the performance and the rehearsal, every moment is a good moment to learn and try something new).

Sometimes I notice that not being a native speaker, I am unable to make such nuances myself, which is ashame I think.

[crabbi]

good point though: that life is the performance and not the rehearsal, even though it's not always true (childhood is actually the rehearsal for the game of life, as a matter of fact I think life itself is and the performance and the rehearsal, every moment is a good moment to learn and try something new).

Sometimes I notice that not being a native speaker, I am unable to make such nuances myself, which is ashame I think.
You should see my Flemish!!!

[captain hansoku]

Me I'm a total coward.
everyone and your boyfriend knows that

[Anjin-san]

dude... we're cool as friends and everything, I just don't see you that way... I can't get into this kinky stuff with you online ok? This is a family forum.

[captain hansoku]

dude... we're cool as friends and everything, I just don't see you that way... I can't get into this kinky stuff with you online ok? This is a family forum. as if you ass hat, i don't date mutants

[AkuSokuZan]

Anjin-san, just drop it. NO matter what you say, or do to prove the hansoku guy wrong, he'll just try and insult you or show that, well.... You know what I mean.

[captain hansoku]

Anjin-san, just drop it. NO matter what you say, or do to prove the hansoku guy wrong, he'll just try and insult you or show that, well.... You know what I mean. i got no beef with you..this is between me and the mutant:D

[Anjin-san]

OH babe, I love it when you talk dirty, come on, you make me feel so NASTY ... go on, call me a mutant! do it! Can I call you michael?

Anjin-san, just drop it. NO matter what you say, or do to prove the hansoku guy wrong, he'll just try and insult you or show that, well.... You know what I mean. While I appreciate your concern, I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong. I'm just having fun. He'll read this, get frustrated, and him being such a macho tough guy, he'll head butt a lamp post and thats pretty funny to me.

I mean he's actually contemplating dating me? Even after I told him I'm straight... THATS why I'm carrying this on... comedy value.

[captain hansoku]

I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong. I'm just having fun. haha, i like how you think mutant..you not so bad bro

i figure im gonna say whatever the hell i want to annoy the heck out of all of you:smoker:

[Hai hai's Dad]

You can approach the guy and tell him u dont wanna kik his ass and get friendly with him....do this for a few days and act like friends....buy him a drink and drug it or put some alchohol in it....then its ur chance to strike...challenge him to a fight....then KILL HIM or u could just kik his ass(this is probably better)

jk....*cough* *cough*....no...*cough*....im....not....*cough* *cough*:smoker:

[kendo-boi]

Whoa Hai hai's Dad what's your problem...?
Hahahahaha....that pic makes me laugh!:cool:

[captain hansoku]

You can approach the guy and tell him u dont wanna kik his ass and get friendly with him....do this for a few days and act like friends....buy him a drink and drug it or put some alchohol in it....then its ur chance to strike...challenge him to a fight....then KILL HIM or u could just kik his ass(this is probably better)

jk....*cough* *cough*....no...*cough*....im....not....*cough* *cough*:smoker: ROFL thats what i wanted to hear

[Anjin-san]

I'm the super funny shit with my big super funny drunk guy pic... blah blah Or I could just cut the games and ask him out properly, you could learn from this hansoku.

[captain hansoku]

Or I could just cut the games and ask him out properly, you could learn from this hansoku. no thanks, your mom is keepin me mighty busy

[streetcleaner]

why are you people ar so weak? whats so unnormal when schoolboy fights each other? its normal and only this way he can raise his man's spirit. all of you try to do kendo, but kendo IS martial art, kendo is fighting and winning in this fight. all of you talks about samrais, hagakure, miyamoto mushashi, but in a real life looks like you are so weak.... where is you fighting spirit? nobody tells that this boy should shoot this guy, but i dont see any problem with schools figth.

[captain hansoku]

why are you people ar so weak? whats so unnormal when schoolboy fights each other? its normal and only this way he can raise his man's spirit. all of you try to do kendo, but kendo IS martial art, kendo is fighting and winning in this fight. all of you talks about samrais, hagakure, miyamoto mushashi, but in a real life looks like you are so weak.... where is you fighting spirit? nobody tells that this boy should shoot this guy, but i dont see any problem with schools figth. this brother knows what he is talking about
thank god someone has some sense on here

PAGE 5 FOOLS!!

[Anjin-san]

its normal and only this way he can raise his man's spirit
My 'mans spirit' doesn't need a schoolboy for raising. Unless its hansoku with his dirty talk.

no thanks, your mom is keepin me mighty busy
hey you don't say? what a coincidence!!!! Your mom is keeping my dog busy:) we have so much in common, I might be having second thoughts about you captain hansoku!

[nalogg]

why are you people ar so weak? whats so unnormal when schoolboy fights each other? its normal and only this way he can raise his man's spirit. all of you try to do kendo, but kendo IS martial art, kendo is fighting and winning in this fight. all of you talks about samrais, hagakure, miyamoto mushashi, but in a real life looks like you are so weak.... where is you fighting spirit? nobody tells that this boy should shoot this guy, but i dont see any problem with schools figth.
Yeah it's normal to get into a few tussles in highschool, but that doesn't mean it's something that should be embraced.

teenagers also don't see it like that, it's not an innocent competition of "spirit" it's an angry and ignorant way to behave. Bullies like the one that Richiro is describing take this crap very seriously. They can't see beyond highschool, they're caught up in their dense little festering microcosm of a world, image is everything to them and they don't understand "friendly fighting" in any form. That's why so many incidents like this can get out of hand and end up fatal.

They have already kinda fought it out... The best thing you can do is to take a deep breath, smile and be the guy's friend. Lead by example and if the guy chooses not to look beyond the walls of the school and what a small group of people (who he won't even know in 4 years) think, then just be content in the fact that he'll end up shining your shoes for a living later on.

[not-I]

Gosh, i'm so glad jr. high / high school is ancient history. Few things in youth are as awful as having to survive in a quasi-prison environment with a bunch of other hormonal sociopaths. The classmates egging you on are just looking for some free lunchtime entertainment, like in that South Park episode.

What's worse is that a lot of people continue that kind of thinking/behavior well into adulthood. Don't listen to the yahoos, Richiro. High school will be over before you know it, just leave all the crap by the roadside.

Anyway, threads like this remind me of this (www.pwned.nl). (contains funny animation and lots of swearing).

[captain hansoku]

hey you don't say? what a coincidence!!!! Your mom is keeping my dog busy:) we have so much in common, I might be having second thoughts about you captain hansoku!haha, speaking of dogs, I saw your dad last night..said that his boyfriend is gonna be flyin in from san fran to stay with y'all sad ass losers

OH! BONG BONG!

[Anjin-san]

dude.... you win. I concede defeat man, that last one was like popping a perfect kote-nuki-men. We should get together for a jigeiko and a beer sometime :)

[Kanoken]

why are you people ar so weak? whats so unnormal when schoolboy fights each other? its normal and only this way he can raise his man's spirit. all of you try to do kendo, but kendo IS martial art, kendo is fighting and winning in this fight. all of you talks about samrais, hagakure, miyamoto mushashi, but in a real life looks like you are so weak.... where is you fighting spirit? nobody tells that this boy should shoot this guy, but i dont see any problem with schools figth.
In what way do you see that as weak. Being the better man, and not going into a fight is not being weak. Solving the problem without "drawing the sword", that is real martial arts, trying to make the opponent stop his bad intentions, that is martial arts. Provoking that bully into another fight in order to protect your so-called reputation is what I see as being weak.

In what way is kendo "fighting and winning in this fight." ? Maybe shiai kendo is about fighting and winning, but the kendo I try to practice is about the practice itself, about perfecting my technique, not about winning the fight.

[alan dean]

Our Lord said to turn the other cheek....so far I have yet to read advice that is more filled with wisdom.

School is very hard on some kids...But in time I hope the children that had a hard time, can one day look back as adults and use what they remember to help guide others.

[streetcleaner]

In what way is kendo "fighting and winning in this fight." ? Maybe shiai kendo is about fighting and winning, but the kendo I try to practice is about the practice itself, about perfecting my technique, not about winning the fight.

what are you talking about? martial art IS for fighting! if someone who practice martial art cant stand for himself he just waste his time in dojo. roots of kendo is killing people, killing bad people, if you want :) but this is combat. kendo polishes spirit of human to be ready to fight, not think how to avoid fight, but fight when the times to fight comes. if someone isnt ready to fight before the face of danger after eyars in dojo, he doesnt understand te kendo. its just dance, not martial art

[not-I]

Our Lord said to turn the other cheek....
How about your lord, or simply "Jesus"?

This is an international kendo forum, not a church. Please respect religious diversity. Your moralizing (http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5959&page=3) is growing tiresome.

[Kanoken]

The fact that you CAN stand up for yourself and kick the other guy's arse without even blinking doesn't mean you have to do it. Remember what Ben Parker said "With great power comes great responsibility" you might think I'm insane and kitchy, but I tihink it's very very true.

Martial Arts is about trying to stop the fight before it starts, and if you fail to do so, than you can use your awesome ninja skills and assasinate all those who come in thy way.:wink: If when someone starts a fight with you, you should at first try to calm the spirits, only when that doesn't work you can use you techniques you learned in the dojo (even though in kendo you can't use them :rolleyes: ) but not to annihilate (sp?) the attacker, but to make him not want to continue the fight, or unable to continue fighting, whichever comes first.

In kendo, it is true that I'm not just dancing, trying to do beautiful kendo all the time, I try to open target and/or hit them, but if you're just trying to hit the targets without doing correct kendo, then it truly is just a dance.

[Kyuuketsuki]

He has dishonored you.

To get your honor back, you MUST kill him.
That's the old way and that's what you have to do.

[4doormadman]

dude.... you win. I concede defeat man, that last one was like popping a perfect kote-nuki-men. We should get together for a jigeiko and a beer sometime :)
haha admitting defeat to this guy??

[Mikeyprime]

The potential fight was so long ago, WHO CARES. Soon you will be out of high school and onto college (hopefully) and you can drink and party and actually have real friends that you dont have to keep worrying are putting signs on your back.......they will only screw with you when you pass out from drunkness.

How is that for wisdom mr dean?

[AkuSokuZan]

Man, this thread is going crazy.

[kendo-boi]

Yep! I agree.:smiley:

[Hai hai's Dad]

I think u should shoot the boy....hahahahahahaha kill him.....:smoker:kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him,kill him. You gotta agree wit this KILL HIM !

[streetcleaner]

Martial Arts is about trying to stop the fight before it starts... If when someone starts a fight with you, you should at first try to calm the spirits
you are wrong. people training in dojo to be ready to fight outside dojo. kendo in dojo is preparation to kill you opponent in duel and stay alive yourself. nowdays it is for winning you opponent in ritual (not real) figh - shiai.

leave all this "peace instead of war" to 70 years hachidans - they are teachers of warriors, not warriors itself

[captain hansoku]

you are wrong. people training in dojo to be ready to fight outside dojo. kendo in dojo is preparation to kill you opponent in duel and stay alive yourself. nowdays it is for winning you opponent in ritual (not real) figh - shiai.

leave all this "peace instead of war" to 70 years hachidans - they are teachers of warriors, not warriors itself bing bong, right again!
give you a "damn right"!!

[mingshi]

kendo in dojo is preparation to kill you opponent in duel and stay alive yourself..
Smells like ninja to me. :ninja: Which dojo do you train at?

leave all this "peace instead of war" to 70 years hachidans - they are teachers of warriors, not warriors itself
Most hachidan alive have been through the times at war and post-war. You have only been thought it by watching TV or Saving Private Ryan. Hello???

[streetcleaner]

Most hachidan alive have been through the times at war and post-war. You have only been thought it by watching TV or Saving Private Ryan. Hello???
no disrespect to this honorable people, but i'm talking about today and about sport (ritual combat). real war is completely another story

[crabbi]

you are wrong. people training in dojo to be ready to fight outside dojo. kendo in dojo is preparation to kill you opponent in duel and stay alive yourself. nowdays it is for winning you opponent in ritual (not real) figh - shiai.

leave all this "peace instead of war" to 70 years hachidans - they are teachers of warriors, not warriors itselfMy God... you are so fulll of macho crap!...

Anyone who thinks that Kendo has practical applications in the street as a Martial Art is really demented...

If we really trained in the Dojo to ... 'kill your opponent in a duel and stay alive yourself' ... then there would be a lot more serious injuries and the techniques wouldn't be based around point-scoring but around doing damage...

Love Kendo... love the Dojo... but please think before you submit your usual drivel in these threads Streetcleaner... you embarass yourself...

your friend as ever...

crabbi

[streetcleaner]

My God... you are so fulll of macho crap!...
OMG!!! you are so full of girly crap!....


Anyone who thinks that Kendo has practical applications in the street as a Martial Art is really demented...
anybody says about practical application in the street today?

If we really trained in the Dojo to ... 'kill your opponent in a duel and stay alive yourself' ... then there would be a lot more serious injuries and the techniques wouldn't be based around point-scoring but around doing damage...
open your eyes - "nowdays it is for winning you opponent in ritual (not real) figh - shiai."


Love Kendo... love the Dojo... but please think before you submit your usual drivel in these threads Streetcleaner... you embarass yourself...
what are you know abou kendo, girl?

[kuwaiti-kendoka]

Like Why do you wanna fight?.... Then again.... You could Challange him for a Boxing match and if he refused Then he is a chiken..... just Kidding

You dont have to fight to prove that you are man. Just ignor the Guy. It a waste of your time to think about him.

[crabbi]

OMG!!! you are so full of girly crap!....

...blah....blah...blah... girly... blah bigger than yours... blah macho pencil ... shrimp ... blah

what are you know abou kendo, girl?Wow! Really up to your usual standard ..!!

As usual, your superior intellect has me completely defeated ... what a brave, strong Warrior you are...

Unfortunately, in this case, I think that I flamed you in error... I think that you were trying (poorly) to express the same position as I was, but I misread your post...

I... am... so ... very ... very... sorry (Bwahahahahaha!... I knew i couldn't keep a straight face!!).

A pleasure as always to exchange ideas with you S-Boy

...and by the way... what is this problem that you have with girls?

Hugs and kisses...

crabbi

[captain hansoku]

Like Why do you wanna fight?.... Then again.... You could Challange him for a Boxing match and if he refused Then he is a chiken..... just Kidding
i don't see how thats funny bub..right over my head

in any case, i think what street cleaner is trying to say is right in that we can't avoid the obvious...just as in kendo you'd never back away from someone who wants to keiko with you, you'd never ever back away from a fight in real life.

[Richiro]

This thread is useless and stupid. Fighting isn't a good thing no matter how you look at it. If somone walks up to you and wants to fight It s your own choice to fight or not to fight. So dont get mad or call somone a girl because how the resolve their problems. The guy that i had a squablle with came up to me a couple days ago and apologized. he said he was out of line and didn't mean for it to get this far. He still avoids me though ,because he's scared. I'm not really happy with this because i wanted to fight him because he embarassed me and i just don't like him.

Resolve your problems how ever you like. I here all this talk about whats right and wisdom, but i have only heard a few of the people on this forum come out and say things that i thought were wise.

Please do not insult each others mothers or fathers. you can insult me all you like but not my parents. I think that is wrong and very disrespectful

Spread the Aloha.

Mahalo.

[Kaoru]

This thread is useless and stupid. Fighting isn't a good thing no matter how you look at it. If somone walks up to you and wants to fight It s your own choice to fight or not to fight. So dont get mad or call somone a girl because how the resolve their problems. The guy that i had a squablle with came up to me a couple days ago and apologized. he said he was out of line and didn't mean for it to get this far. He still avoids me though ,because he's scared. I'm not really happy with this because i wanted to fight him because he embarassed me and i just don't like him.

Resolve your problems how ever you like. I here all this talk about whats right and wisdom, but i have only heard a few of the people on this forum come out and say things that i thought were wise.

Please do not insult each others mothers or fathers. you can insult me all you like but not my parents. I think that is wrong and very disrespectful

Spread the Aloha.

Mahalo. Hi Richiro-san,

Well done. I am so glad you avoided a fight. I had missed this thread somehow. I'd have just said to walk away. The best way is to talk and not use muscles to solve a problem. That's never good, and just lands you in trouble and gets you hurt. I'd say, make friends with this person if he is otherwise clean cut and does not do bad things. Better to be friends than enemies, right? :) The fact that he apologised shows he must be somewhat of a decent person at least. You have the opportunity now to make friends, since the door is now open, provided he is not into bad things. I suggest you try, at least. You guys may have things in common! :) Maybe get him interested in Kendo and invite him to a practice. Give him half a chance, at least.

Try that, ok? :)

Oh, I also understand about how it feels when someone embarrasses you. It's no fun at all. But, it's not a valid reason to fight.

I still think you should make an effort to make friends.

Well, I agree with you. Everybody, no more insulting someone's parents please. That is low and is very disrespectful! And, it is very hurtful.

Anyway, good luck, and maybe something good can come of this. :)

Kaoru

[Twobitmage]

OMG!!! you are so full of girly crap!....

anybody says about practical application in the street today?


what are you know abou kendo, girl?

gee, you're right! WHO said that kendo is practical in today's world?

you are wrong. people training in dojo to be ready to fight outside dojo. kendo in dojo is preparation to kill you opponent in duel and stay alive yourself.

...you did...

I training in dojo to have fun. no need fight outside dojo because no ninja outside. No need to preparation to fight kill opponent in duel to stay alive.All your dojo are belong to us</bad grammar>

[Paburo]

avoiding confrontation is always wise.

and so as they say, a gentleman will walk but never run.

but imho, do forget about the 'our dear lord said show the other cheek' bullshit though. no one wants a fight, but if it's inevitable then don't let them crush and step on you like a cockroach.

[Light Samurai]

avoiding confrontation is always wise.

and so as they say, a gentleman will walk but never run.

but imho, do forget about the 'our dear lord said show the other cheek' bullshit though. no one wants a fight, but if it's inevitable then don't let them crush and step on you like a cockroach.He said to turn the other cheek, not to take the hit to the other cheek. How else did Jesus get through the angry crownd then? Anyway, Just some food for thought. Another thing is if your going to fight, harmonize with the opanant. blend. I've said this here already. Even if you have no idea, step to the left last second so the punch misses you, and then, hit him. Although that would be the crudest form of blending.. ah well.
Peace.

[AkuSokuZan]

Wow... This thread really has gotten out of control.

[captain hansoku]

avoiding confrontation is always wise.

and so as they say, a gentleman will walk but never run.

but imho, do forget about the 'our dear lord said show the other cheek' bullshit though. no one wants a fight, but if it's inevitable then don't let them crush and step on you like a cockroach. exactly
how hard is this to understand..don't be a wuss