Uchiotoshi

[Aden]

Something I was wondering about during training on the weekend....

Do all Jodo groups use uchiotoshi (stationary striking exercises against bokken) as part of their jodo training regime (the four strands for us are uchiotoshi / tandoku / soutai / kata)?

Aden

[matt_bedford]

I've never heard of it, but to me it sounds alot like sotai, do you practice any specific technique?

[Ric Flinn]

I haven't heard of it either, but in my dojo, which isn't very long, we often do sotai such that we reset our position after each one so we're not moving across the floor. Works better for the waza that don't move too much to begin with. Is this like what you mean or do you not move your feet at all?

[Aden]

Very similar to stationary soutai, feet come together at the strike and then a foot goes back - except that for honte and gyakute it is a strike to a bokken held in chudan.

I thought it might be peculiar to the school - but since my experience outside the Ha is limited to Australian seitei jo training I thought I would ask. Trying to assemble resources for beginners - for some things there are good resources to point them to but on uchiotoshi I drew a blank - we will have to make our own.

Thanks for answering.

Aden

[Diane Skoss]

Hi!

We call that exercise uchikomi (striking practice--uchiotoshi is actually the name of a sonota waza created by Shimizu Takaji Sensei), which is essentially what it is--the goal being perfecting the hassuji of your cut/strike. It's a basic exercise anyone can derive from the kihon and I expect (but do not know) that it has been practiced at various times by various people for a very long time in Muso-ryu. Nishioka Tsuneo Sensei uses this teaching tool a lot, and you'll find that many groups who have some sort of connection to him will use this practice method. I believe we started doing it in Phil Relnick Sensei's Nogawa Dojo in '93 or '94, after Nishioka Sensei introduced it to us. We still do it here in the States, though certainly not at every training session. It is essentially just a way of practice kihon (try it from jodan too).

Cheers!

Diane Skoss
Koryu.com (http://koryu.com/)

[Kent Enfield]

uchiotoshi is actually the name of a sonota waza created by Shimizu Takaji SenseiDiane,
What is a sonota waza? My Japanese isn't good enough to figure this one out, and I havn't encountered the term before.

[Diane Skoss]

Hi!

It means "miscellaneous other techniques". Suigetsu and shamen are the two that are still commonly practiced, since they were incorporated into the seiteigata. I have heard, but do not know for certain, that there were at least 4 of these miscellaneous techniques; uchiotoshi was one other (and I haven't a clue about the other--I just heard that there were 4).
Hope this helps!

Cheers,

Diane Skoss
Koryu.com (http://koryu.com/)

[Taisaburo]

Whoah! The Skoss family is posting on KW excellent. I can't wait until we have more threads on Yagyu ryu and other Koryu. It would be quite intresting to have them posting in them.