the japanese and koreans

[mononokifool]

I was wondering if the Japanese and Koreans know why they hate each other anymore. I was talking to a japanese friend of mine and she said she couldnt stand the koreans and when i asked her why she said because she was just racist towards them and was raised that way. do they know why they dont like each other. i would asume it is cause japan took over korea a couple of times but not sure

[KhawMengLee]

And thus begins a flame war anew!

[640x480]

Im korean.....one of my best friends was japanese. I studied TKD, but I really think highly of Kendo. I guess if your raised up racist that can't be helped, but this brood war has been on forever it seems.

Actually things have been going well, especially with the joint world cup in 2002. But recent events have really rattled the korean public like the false historical data in japanese text books with korean japanese relations and the sudden implication that an island that has been considered korean land for ages is now being challenged.

What do i think of this? Well, it makes me angry, how could I not be with korean blood in me. But would I be racist becuase of that? No.....not unlike someone in this forum who dislikes Koreans (or his father does) for unknown reasons.

Korean and Japan have what I call 'foolish pride' in that they can take national honor and pride too seriously. I think to a point where people fight for no reason. Have pride people, but don't be so eager to get riled over anything.

[Will]

koreans still remember the occupation.

[640x480]

huh? whaddya mean will? i dun get it

[KevinF]

640 & Will,

Read the thread "Dok Doh" (also under Flames). I think the topic was exhausted.

[rainmaker]

Yes, we have covered whole history dated back from year 600.. We have also discussed about not only Korea and Japan but also Canada, France, Australia, Singapore, India, Spain, Vetnam, Malaysia and many others....

Unless, someone want to starts WWIII again..


640 & Will,

Read the thread "Dok Doh" (also under Flames). I think the topic was exhausted.

[Andou]

I'm Japanese...unless all Koreans are out to get every single Japanese person and hang them, I personally have no thing against them as a whole. Its absurd to hate an entire race of people...that is unless you've met every single person from that race and chatted with them. Personally, I find all the hate that's being concentrated around Japan, Korea, and China disgusting and useless.

[rainmaker]

Indeed very well said Andou, ... I am Korean Candian living in America... ha~~



I'm Japanese...unless all Koreans are out to get every single Japanese person and hang them, I personally have no thing against them as a whole. Its absurd to hate an entire race of people...that is unless you've met every single person from that race and chatted with them. Personally, I find all the hate that's being concentrated around Japan, Korea, and China disgusting and useless.

[drizzt]

oh crap, a new place to let isaac make himself look dumb. This should be funny

[nikolaj]

I was wondering if the Japanese and Koreans know why they hate each other anymore. I was talking to a japanese friend of mine and she said she couldnt stand the koreans and when i asked her why she said because she was just racist towards them and was raised that way. do they know why they dont like each other. i would asume it is cause japan took over korea a couple of times but not sure

huh, so she actually admits that she just hates them becxause she was raised to be rascist?
weird, I know some rascists, but even though they were clearly raised like that as well, they'll never admit it, they'll just make up any crazy argument to justify their hate. (as unlogical it may be)

[Andou]

It seriously just doesn't make sense to me...unless you were actually there doing some shady stuff. Gahh. It's just so frustrating when I think about it. So much time is wasted on hating people you don't even know. People who could be your best friend for all you know. Hate's being wasted...it should be used on more important things...like...guys who wear socks with sandals...EWWWW (yeah that's a joke...).

[Mugu]

It seriously just doesn't make sense to me...unless you were actually there doing some shady stuff. Gahh. It's just so frustrating when I think about it. So much time is wasted on hating people you don't even know. People who could be your best friend for all you know. Hate's being wasted...it should be used on more important things...like...guys who wear socks with sandals...EWWWW (yeah that's a joke...).

Andou man, I start to like you for a 17 years old that actually have more brain than some adults, hahah

I'm Chinese and well... if I'm practicing Kendo, learned Karate, learned Japanese for 2.5 years, amazed by Japanese cultures, I don't know about you. I can tell you not all Chinese hates Japanese, not all Koreans hate Japanese. Andou is so darn right, why waste your time hating some people you don't even know and some stuff happened before you weren't even born yet?! You got better things to do and worry about... such as sleeping and playing video games, or do more suburi :D Let's just say I'm a firm believer of hatred should never pass on to the next generations, it doesn't do anybody good.

[Mugu]

By the way, I should bring up the movie "Crash" if you folks haven't seen it, great movie towards the topic of racism and sort of stuff we're talking here. It is beautifully done!

[nebosuke]

Check this out.

http://uqmgp.hp.infoseek.co.jp/

[Mugu]

*sings* WE ARE FAMILY

don't you just love governments when they don't like each other?

[projectnavi]

Check this out.

http://uqmgp.hp.infoseek.co.jp/


wow, thats just insane...

i think this really gets dangerous when the politics try to force the minds to hate a nation. i think this shows pretty obviously that kids might be getting brainwashed over this story.


project

[Andou]

wow, thats just insane...

i think this really gets dangerous when the politics try to force the minds to hate a nation. i think this shows pretty obviously that kids might be getting brainwashed over this story.


project

Seriously...That's...actually kind of creepy. Reminds me of the Hitler Youth...

[rainmaker]

Actually, this has been big debate in Korea last few days. I personally think it is wrong to teach hatred someone at this age. I just don't think they are at the age to understand what is wrong and right.....



Seriously...That's...actually kind of creepy. Reminds me of the Hitler Youth...

[Andou]

Actually, this has been big debate in Korea last few days. I personally think it is wrong to teach hatred someone at this age. I just don't think they are at the age to understand what is wrong and right.....

Exactly! That's why that teaching things like this is easy for the teachers and the children retain it for the rest of their lives. It's horrible to manipulate children in general...but it's even worse when you teach them to hate.

[projectnavi]

anyone got an example of how it is thaught in school ?

i can hardly belive that we still have issues like that in 2005...how sad...and dangerous.

[rainmaker]

Most of time, Korean don't really have hatred feeling about Japanese. We had very awesome relationship when we had worldcup 3 years ago in both Korea and Japan. I remember Koreans cheer for Japanese team and vise versa. But when Japan claims 1) Dokto is their land, 2) no invasion to Korea, 3) textbook controversals, it is all over the media and it reminds of bad memory and starts cursing Japanese. Right now, I have to admit that it is the worst point of political relationship between Korea & Japan, because late Dokto issue (http://news.monstersandcritics.com/mediamonitor/article_1010559.php/Minister_urges_children_taught_disputed_islets_Jap anese).

At school, they teach history of Japan occupation and how bad it has been. And they also talk about current Dokto issue and Japan is about to invade Dokto again. It will, of course, concern young children. They don't even have to say Japan as devil empire. Hatred just grows up because they are scared. Is it wrong ? Yes, I think it is wrong for such young kids to be scared and hate others whom they even barely know of. I just hope they solve such issue as soon as possible but it will take long time to resolve this.

[KevinF]

You just proved some of what I was saying in the other thread about Korean propaganda.

"Japan is about to invade Takeshima," is the craziest thing I have every heard, and I can totally see Korean elementary school teachers, etc. feeding this to little Korean kids, who run home spurting anti-Japanese sentiments to proud parents.

Rainmaker, I do hope the issue is resolved soon as well.

Also, ditto to Andou-san, Mugu and Projectnavi.

[mononokifool]

do you think that south korea is more liberal thatn north korea and do you think that korea hate america more. i watched a documentary on the north koreans absolutly hating america. i mean they have bilboards up that say "we will take revenge for the korean war and will strike back with our nuclear power." that is scary to me.

[Sepiraph]

Check this out.

http://uqmgp.hp.infoseek.co.jp/

Pretty mess up, humanity can be quite SAD at times.

[Yo...osh!]

Damn...I can't understand the japanese govt

Is profit from fishing so important as to stir up such hatred?? What is more important, peace with your neighbour or $$$$$$??

[ISSAC RU]

Damn...I can't understand the japanese govt

Is profit from fishing so important as to stir up such hatred?? What is more important, peace with your neighbour or $$$$$$??

Obviously Japan is trying to be more aggrassive to prove her
role in aisa..
They still hope everybody on the earth still understand
they are the "Master Race'' of Asia...

[Yo...osh!]

Haha, whereas "The Chinese" are, right?

It's sad how Asian leaders lack wisdom. Sometimes, taking a step backwards means making 2 steps forwards.

[ISSAC RU]

Haha, whereas "The Chinese" are, right?

It's sad how Asian leaders lack wisdom. Sometimes, taking a step backwards means making 2 steps forwards.

Thats how dirty politics are in Asia ,
Look at Tw and S.Korea..
Corruption in the CCP is also pretty messed up too..

[rainmaker]

There is possibility. It is matter of what triggers such disputes. It can be started with a crazy Korean or Japanse shooting at each other at Dokto, or fisherman comes/goes to this island.... Never say never..



You just proved some of what I was saying in the other thread about Korean propaganda.

"Japan is about to invade Takeshima," is the craziest thing I have every heard, and I can totally see Korean elementary school teachers, etc. feeding this to little Korean kids, who run home spurting anti-Japanese sentiments to proud parents.

Rainmaker, I do hope the issue is resolved soon as well.

Also, ditto to Andou-san, Mugu and Projectnavi.

[rainmaker]

Well, north Korea is only twisted communist with dictatorship. They have brainwashed their people for many years and have very strong military. They used hatred toward to S. Korea and America to unite their public. South Korea is pretty liberal. Just like any other country, of course, there are currupted politicians. It is however it is one of the safest city in the world. Don't worry about N. Korean attacking America. You should more worry about crazy driver on the street...



do you think that south korea is more liberal thatn north korea and do you think that korea hate america more. i watched a documentary on the north koreans absolutly hating america. i mean they have bilboards up that say "we will take revenge for the korean war and will strike back with our nuclear power." that is scary to me.

[mononokifool]

why must people raise people to hate each other.i live in the south and it can be pretty bad here. i am ashamed to admit this but i have people in my family that are racist against alot of people. but i guess racism goes both ways people just need to learn how to accept each other and mind there own buissnes but unfortunitly there will allwase be hatred towards people who are not the same

[Andou]

why must people raise people to hate each other.i live in the south and it can be pretty bad here. i am ashamed to admit this but i have people in my family that are racist against alot of people. but i guess racism goes both ways people just need to learn how to accept each other and mind there own buissnes but unfortunitly there will allwase be hatred towards people who are not the same

So long as there are differences among the human race, there will be some sort of B.S. hatred that some people use to spur themselves on. The sad thing is, I don't think it will be changing in the future. Whether it is in Asia or as you've experienced in the south...or hell, even here in Ohio I get some things directed towards me that just makes my right eye twitch. I mean...it's okay for someone to ask whether I'm Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc...but just calling me a Jap or some other name is infuriating. Frankly, I can't tell whether someone is Italian, German, English, Russian, or anything (unless they have an accent...) but when if I DO find out I'll at least make the effort to remember and acknowledge it.

[TsukiMeBaby]

This whole debate about Koreans vs Japanese is like every other conflict in history. Cypriots Turks & Greek, Mainland & Taiwan, Vietnam & Mainland, Japan & China's Nanjing Massacre....etc. There will never be any resolve. Too bad the old days of duels with hand weapons aren't 'in' anymore. Otherwise, the best thing that can happen is if both parties just go to a deserted island like doktu or whatever and just anniliate each other. There were something like 20 million Chinese killed by the Japanese during Nanking, tons of Koreans, Filipinos, Singaporeans, Burmese. Not to mention how many gipsy were slaughtered. The Asians aren't organized enough at this point to make it a well known cause as much as the Jews have by far. Jews have a greater organization and approach toward making the world aware of the atrocities suffered. A lot of people in this generation, especially in the West, have no idea about what happened during the WWs. It's come to light recently that the reason Japan was able to rebuild so fast and achieve such a remarkable economy so quickly was from basically using all the hoardes of gold and jewels systematically taken from all of Asia that had been stockpiled from pillaging the rest of Asia while financing the war. There are apparently still hoardes of it sitting around hidden and buried in the Philipines that never made it to Japan's vaults. There's no right or wrong in any of this and I believe honestly that for the most part, the average citizen has little or no say in the way Japan, Korea, or most Asian countries are governed. It has always been up to the lobbyist, special interests, corporations, industries that pump money indirectly or sometimes directly that make the policies. Patriotism is nothing more than a politician's engine to stir up emotions and rounding up the sheep to his cause. Religion serves the same purpose for that matter. It was no surprise that GW used it as a platform during the last election here.

[Andou]

This whole debate about Koreans vs Japanese is like every other conflict in history. Cypriots Turks & Greek, Mainland & Taiwan, Vietnam & Mainland, Japan & China's Nanjing Massacre....etc. There will never be any resolve. Too bad the old days of duels with hand weapons aren't 'in' anymore. Otherwise, the best thing that can happen is if both parties just go to a deserted island like doktu or whatever and just anniliate each other. There were something like 20 million Chinese killed by the Japanese during Nanking, tons of Koreans, Filipinos, Singaporeans, Burmese. Not to mention how many gipsy were slaughtered. The Asians aren't organized enough at this point to make it a well known cause as much as the Jews have by far. Jews have a greater organization and approach toward making the world aware of the atrocities suffered. A lot of people in this generation, especially in the West, have no idea about what happened during the WWs. It's come to light recently that the reason Japan was able to rebuild so fast and achieve such a remarkable economy so quickly was from basically using all the hoardes of gold and jewels systematically taken from all of Asia that had been stockpiled from pillaging the rest of Asia while financing the war. There are apparently still hoardes of it sitting around hidden and buried in the Philipines that never made it to Japan's vaults. There's no right or wrong in any of this and I believe honestly that for the most part, the average citizen has little or no say in the way Japan, Korea, or most Asian countries are governed. It has always been up to the lobbyist, special interests, corporations, industries that pump money indirectly or sometimes directly that make the policies. Patriotism is nothing more than a politician's engine to stir up emotions and rounding up the sheep to his cause. Religion serves the same purpose for that matter. It was no surprise that GW used it as a platform during the last election here.

Yeah. As long as there are two sides, there will always be "liberating" and "invading" forces.

[Yaiba]

They (Japan) still hope everybody on the earth still understand
they are the "Master Race'' of Asia...
If you asked the Japanese population whether they think they are the "Master Race" of Asia, I guarantee that 99.99% of them will turn around and reply "You're an idiot. What kind of a question is that?". Sure, there are bound to be some bigots out there that think Japan is superior to it's Asian neighbours but it's the same everywhere. For your information Issac, I've personally come across a few Chinese people that look down on the Japanese and Koreans for "their lack of history and culture, and inept languages (mostly in regards to Japanese Kanji and Korean Hangul)". I'm not joking.

Too bad the old days of duels with hand weapons aren't 'in' anymore. Otherwise, the best thing that can happen is if both parties just go to a deserted island like doktu or whatever and just anniliate each other.
Good grief... I hope you're kidding. The best thing to do in this day and age is to sit around a table and resolve these issues like civilised people. Sure, it may be somewhat difficult and time-consuming but resorting to fights/wars to achieve an outcome (eg "annihilation" of fellow human beings) is just plain stupid.

The Asians aren't organized enough at this point to make it a well known cause as much as the Jews have by far. Jews have a greater organization and approach toward making the world aware of the atrocities suffered. A lot of people in this generation, especially in the West, have no idea about what happened during the WWs.
I disagree. I believe the Asians are just ill-equipped, rather than unorganised, in getting their messages out across to the Western world. Firstly, there are language and cultural barriers and, secondly, their vehicle (books, films, etc) doesn't quite reach the entire world like that of the Jews. I've read an article on the internet that stated the vast majority of Hollywood studios and the US media are run by Jews, which would explain why we tend to see more books, films, documentaries, etc about the Nazis and the Holocaust than we do about other incidents in recent history.

There's no right or wrong in any of this and I believe honestly that for the most part, the average citizen has little or no say in the way Japan, Korea, or most Asian countries are governed. It has always been up to the lobbyist, special interests, corporations, industries that pump money indirectly or sometimes directly that make the policies. Patriotism is nothing more than a politician's engine to stir up emotions and rounding up the sheep to his cause. Religion serves the same purpose for that matter. It was no surprise that GW used it as a platform during the last election here.
I agree... it makes me wonder whether democracy truly is the answer. In regards to patriotism/nationalism or religion, I don't think there is anything wrong with it as long as it isn't misused to incite hatred and other negative emotions.

[ISSAC RU]

I've personally come across a few Chinese people that look down on the Japanese and Koreans for "their lack of history and culture, and inept languages (mostly in regards to Japanese Kanji and Korean Hangul)". I'm not joking.


Wow...you sure know some stuff.
I have to admit you are right.........

[mononokifool]

It sadens me but humans are truly the most carless and violent of all the animals on earth. i mean for being the smartest sometimes we can act like the most stupid of the animals.

[Andou]

It sadens me but humans are truly the most carless and violent of all the animals on earth. i mean for being the smartest sometimes we can act like the most stupid of the animals.

Sweet, sweet irony.

[Frame]

For your information Issac, I've personally come across a few Chinese people that look down on the Japanese and Koreans for "their lack of history and culture, and inept languages (mostly in regards to Japanese Kanji and Korean Hangul)". I'm not joking..

......

please name a country where there are some people who haven't done something similar to this. All countries have their fair share of cnuts. I've personally come across a few people who don't give a rat's ass/arse and get along fine.

[Yaiba]

Yes Frame, I'm well aware of that and I clearly stated that in my last post. :tired:
Sure, there are bound to be some bigots out there that think Japan is superior to it's Asian neighbours but it's the same everywhere.
My intention was to point out to Issac, who happens to be Chinese and who accuses the Japanese of collectively thinking that they are the "Master Race" of Asia, that there are in fact some Chinese that look down (sometimes spitefully) on the Japanese and Koreans because they believe the Chinese are superior in terms of history, culture, and language. All I wanted to do was wake Issac up to reality (although I don't know whether I've managed to achieve this or not), so I can't understand why you're trying to criticise me.

[ISSAC RU]

Well, north Korea is only twisted communist with dictatorship. They have brainwashed their people for many years and have very strong military. They used hatred toward to S. Korea and America to unite their public. South Korea is pretty liberal. Just like any other country, of course, there are currupted politicians. It is however it is one of the safest city in the world. Don't worry about N. Korean attacking America. You should more worry about crazy driver on the street...

Uncle Sam must be really happy when he sees this..He has succesfully
trained another watch dog to their world domination plan.

[Anjin-san]

(Crowd cheers.... ) Anouncer: "He's on FIRE!"

[mingshi]

...look down on the Japanese and Koreans for "their lack of history and culture, and inept languages (mostly in regards to Japanese Kanji and Korean Hangul)"...
Should I start looking down on the mainland Chinese because they write in simplified Chinese characters?

Personally I find Chinese characters one of the lamest written language of all time. Time consuming to write, difficult to learn and recognize, can't spell them out, etc... And they keep writing it the wrong way round! Jerks!! :smoker:

[Yaiba]

Should I start looking down on the mainland Chinese because they write in simplified Chinese characters?

Personally I find Chinese characters one of the lamest written language of all time. Time consuming to write, difficult to learn and recognize, can't spell them out, etc... And they keep writing it the wrong way round! Jerks!! :smoker:
Now settle down mingshi, we don't want to get Issac all fired up (again), do we? :wink: Those are fighting words and it may start WW3 if you're not careful, haha.

By the way, I'm not sure if it's just my imagination but I get the impression that you and Frame misunderstood what I wrote in an earlier post and I'm kinda worried that you think I'm one of these bigots. I'm sorry if what I'm suspecting is wrong.
For your information Issac, I've personally come across a few Chinese people that look down on the Japanese and Koreans for "their lack of history and culture, and inept languages (mostly in regards to Japanese Kanji and Korean Hangul)". I'm not joking.
Anyway, as you can see above, what I wrote was in inverted commas and was supposed to indicate what I had heard from some Chinese people that spoke quite unfairly about the Japanese and Koreans. Please note that I don't agree with them whatsoever! I have an interest in both Japanese and Korean languages (I can speak Japanese but not Korean all that well) and I have even enjoyed learning "shodo" (calligraphy) before in Japan. In fact, I think I could say that I may have a larger appreciation for Chinese characters (or Kanji) than mingshi does. :silly:

I just wanted to clear things up. Cheers.

[TsukiMeBaby]

Amazingly, often times when the two cultures clash because of some history, if you stepped back and look you'll often see more similarities than differences albeit admittance is another matter altogether. The Greeks and Turks eat the same food, listen to the same music, drink the same anise liquor. The Japanese and Koreans are both entralled with sashimi, crappy pop music, and try to outdo each other's hairdo. If you stick either a pair in a traincar for a few days, I guarantee they'll have more in common to each other than anyone else. The differences aren't really what's killing the relationship. It's partially fueled by the government, partly by the generation that went through whatever they did. There was a friend recently who questioned if he should even be practicing kendo coz his dad was in Nanjing during the massacre. I told him that maybe he should consider giving up his love of sushi, pickled plums, Japanese maples for that matter.

[mero]

Japan doesn't get along with all its neighbors because its always had a chip on its shoulders toward mainland Asia that culminated in attempted invasions throughout history.

When you invade, rape and pillage and whitewash the past with romantics notions of imperialistic past, you're got going to be very popular.

[Stimpson J. Cat]

All I wanted to do was wake Issac up to reality

Talk about setting yourself a hopeless task!

[ninjamster15]

um...let me try to explain. Im sorry if this sounds incredibly racist.
for a very, very long time, japanese have looked down on Koreans as being inferior. Anyway, the when the japanese invaded/ occupied korea ( i can't remember the exact date) they actively tried to destroy the korean culture. Schools were taught by japanese officers.....people were forced to stop practing their traditions...etc. anyway, that sort of thing usually isn't something that helps relations. Today, some of the resentment has faded....some of it. I'm korean, and i don't have a problem with the japanese. None of my korean friends do either.

[ninjamster15]

Japan doesn't get along with all its neighbors because its always had a chip on its shoulders toward mainland Asia that culminated in attempted invasions throughout history.

When you invade, rape and pillage and whitewash the past with romantics notions of imperialistic past, you're got going to be very popular.

not many people know about this, but the chinese have just as much reason to hate the japanese as well. are you familiar of the rape of nanking? To make a long story short, when the japanese invaded china in wwii, they raped/kill thousands of chinese women. Japanese officers killed more people on the streets that the nazis killed in concentrations camps in the several weeks they occupied china.

[Mugu]

not many people know about this, but the chinese have just as much reason to hate the japanese as well. are you familiar of the rape of nanking? To make a long story short, when the japanese invaded china in wwii, they raped/kill thousands of chinese women. Japanese officers killed more people on the streets that the nazis killed in concentrations camps in the several weeks they occupied china.

ummm a LOT of pepole knew that. About 300,000 Chinese were murdered at the Nanjin Masacre. And raping happens in every war, that's not even a secret. I'm Chinese, I don't hate the Japanese. In a matter of fact, Japanese culture fascinates me. I'm one of those who believes a generation's hate belongs to that generation only. It doesn't do any good for carrying the hate to the next generation. Just you didn't know I mentioned this before, the communists Chinese killed more of their own people than the Nanjing Masacre, and gazillion people suffered. I think you didn't know this one, did you?

[ninjamster15]

ummm a LOT of pepole knew that. About 300,000 Chinese were murdered at the Nanjin Masacre. And raping happens in every war, that's not even a secret. I'm Chinese, I don't hate the Japanese. In a matter of fact, Japanese culture fascinates me. I'm one of those who believes a generation's hate belongs to that generation only. It doesn't do any good for carrying the hate to the next generation. Just you didn't know I mentioned this before, the communists Chinese killed more of their own people than the Nanjing Masacre, and gazillion people suffered. I think you didn't know this one, did you?
probably not(laugh).

[Infinity]

What is more important, peace with your neighbour or $$$$$$??

oh Yo...osh, have a look at every war currently being fought.
how many of them have nothing to do with money or resource rich land?
have a close look at the motivations behind almost every invasion in the past.
peace can only last for so long, the $$$$ is forever.
ah greed, humanity's fundamental flaw...
it will be the end of us.

[nicho]

So who has the hotter girls, korea or japan?

[KhawMengLee]

So who has the hotter girls, korea or japan?

MALAYSIA!!! Plus they all wear hotpants here....

[nicho]

I think koreans in america are the cutest by far. Its as if all the beautiful korean women one day got aboard a ship and sailed away, leaving the motherland destitute. Thus, japanese chicks in japan are hotter than koreans in korea IMHO :) .

[kendonewbie]

Korea, i think. then again, i'm biased (and Korean).

[drizzt]

boy im glad i dont have a dog in this fight. and i refuse to comment on the latest topic, seeing as my gf reads my posts occasionaly

[piggy]

i refuse to comment on the latest topic, seeing as my gf reads my posts occasionaly

hahaha, im always careful as to what i say about girls because of that reason.

but really, italians are way hotter than anyone ever. i like the italian guys with long, dark brown hair and brown eyes. those guys are so hot.
(if you dont know me, you wont get this joke)

[ShinKenshi]

So who has the hotter girls, korea or japan? It depends. Doesn't really matter to me but then again my gf is Korean and I am too so :D. Having lived in Tokyo I have seen my fair share of very hot Japanese girls so in my mind a lot of it has to do with general personality. For the most part, Japanese girls tend to be more submissive and are more cute-girl-next-door types whereas Korean girls tend to be more outgoing. Granted there are several exceptions to this sweeping generalization but that is what I've noticed and you tend to see that in famous Japanese and Korean women (at least as far as I've seen so I very well could be wrong).

[kuzu70]

I think there are equally hot Japanese as well as Korean girls. Come to think of it, there are hot girls in every ethnic group you can think of. Mmmmmmmm......Girls!

[kendonewbie]

lol. Very true

[kendonewbie]

wow...this thread has digressed a lot, hasn't it...

[rainmaker]

It is hard to say who are more Hot. Look at my two favorite chics. They are both hot....

Ayumi Hamasaki (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/neo/keitai/imode/240x320/hamasaki/hamasaki010.jpg) ( Japanese )
Ko, So young (http://blog.khan.co.kr/usr/m/o/modelteam/14/고소영(2).jpg) ( Korean )


But you can also find other hot chics too...

Unknown (http://twoday.net/static/mahalanobis/images/punkchick.jpg)

[piggy]

But you can also find other hot chics too...

Unknown (http://twoday.net/static/mahalanobis/images/punkchick.jpg)

too bad theres actually kids in high school like that...

i'd say in those two pictures, after careful debate, the korean one is cuter.

[kendonewbie]

oh, the last one under the unknown link was the hottest by far..what was i thinking before?! (laughs sacastically) Just kidding. My opinion about koreans is still the same (read the last page if you have no idea what i'm talking about)

[Flylkorean]

It is hard to say who are more Hot. Look at my two favorite chics. They are both hot....

Ayumi Hamasaki (http://www.ne.jp/asahi/neo/keitai/imode/240x320/hamasaki/hamasaki010.jpg) ( Japanese )
Ko, So young (http://blog.khan.co.kr/usr/m/o/modelteam/14/%EA%B3%A0%EC%86%8C%EC%98%81%282%29.jpg) ( Korean )


But you can also find other hot chics too...

Unknown (http://twoday.net/static/mahalanobis/images/punkchick.jpg)

I think the Japanese Girl is way hotter . I think theres more hot japanese girls then korean girls in this world. Cmon admit it :)

[kendonewbie]

lol. How would you know there are more hot japanese girls than korean? Has anyone ever bothered to actually count each individual hot girl there was in each country (i wish....) Oh well. Now that i think about it..who cares?! I mean, they're both hot!! I mean, if either one of them asked you out and you were single, would you honestly say no because your korean/japanese?

[piggy]

lol. How would you know there are more hot japanese girls than korean? Has anyone ever bothered to actually count each individual hot girl there was in each country (i wish....) Oh well. Now that i think about it..who cares?! I mean, they're both hot!! I mean, if either one of them asked you out and you were single, would you honestly say no because your korean/japanese?


depends on thier attitude. i'd rather date an unattractive person with good attitude than a hot shallow person.

[kendonewbie]

true, true

[Flylkorean]

Im korean , and I think Japanese girls are way better. Or maybe its because theres no hot korean girls out here.

[Paikea]

Im korean , and I think Japanese girls are way better. Or maybe its because theres no hot korean girls out here.Grace Park. What do I win?

[kendonewbie]

Grace park is the korean golfer, right? This person?http://www.seoulsisters.com/players/grace/galleries/action%20-%202003/images/grace_ping03_driverd3.jpg

[Paikea]

Grace park is the korean golfer, right? This person?http://www.seoulsisters.com/players/grace/galleries/action%20-%202003/images/grace_ping03_driverd3.jpgMeant this one: http://www.whaleofatale.net/iblog/C710474979/E1865577510/

[kendonewbie]

oh...ok. She is hot!

[Flylkorean]

oh...ok. She is hot!

shes not that hot . I think shes just a regular. If you guys think that that girl is hot, then i bet you guys would be overwhelmed by the girls down here. lolllll

[stephanie dee]

What? I seriously didn't know that they hated each other! My ignorance is shamefull.

I was thinking of starting Tae Kwon Do, well, giving it a try, I take it that its not such a good idea, given that I also do Iaido and Jodo...

[kendonewbie]

The koreans and japanese USED to hate each other. Its kind of improved lately. I know that here in america they don't hate each other (with the rare exception). As for starting taekwondo...be careful where you go to. Its on of those over-commericalized martial arts...other than that its pretty good, unless you happend to be stuck in a class full of little kids....