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anti-masterx
31st July 2005, 02:40 PM
Hey, I was looking around at sword styles and saw Kenjutsu and Iaijutsu, and when I did some research I found things that said how they were/are the best sword styles around. Is there any truth to this? And if so which one is the better? Also, what sword style is the most "legendary"?

Anime12478
31st July 2005, 03:12 PM
As far as which is better, it all depends on the person. One person might say that Kenjutsu is the best art while others will say that Iaijutsu is the one. It all depends on if that particular art does what they are looking for.

Wes Nazo
31st July 2005, 05:31 PM
Do a lot more research.

Wes Nazo
31st July 2005, 05:34 PM
http://www.koryu.com/guide/ryuguide.html

Maybe this will help you get started on some quality research.

Slade
2nd August 2005, 04:35 AM
I am by no means a "know-it-all" nor do I claim to have any great understanding of the sword but I feel the need to make a few...clarifications for you anti-masterx.

Kenjutsu is the method of handling a sword once it is drawn and out of the scabbard. Iaijutsu is, specifically, the art of drawing the sword and making an effective cut, in one and the same motion. So in essence, they are not sword styles but rather methods of using or training with the sword.

Now if you want to talk styles the Ryuha guide will be your best start, but I would caution against the typical "Which is the best sword style?" because everyone will say that the style they practice is the best and you're not going to find the answer you seek. Plainly stated the best sword style is the one in which you find the answer to the one question: Why do you practice Japanese Sword?

Hope this helps.

mingshi
2nd August 2005, 10:22 PM
Furocious Earthic
...Formerly known as Aquatic Windu...

shred_lord
2nd August 2005, 10:26 PM
Furocious Earthic
...Formerly known as Aquatic Windu...

I second that!

ChaShu
4th August 2005, 02:35 AM
Probably a good idea not to continue as you'll probably be painfully flamed here. Kind of goes along the "katana vs English longsword" or "samurai vs fencer" debate. Really goes nowhere except in circles. Suffice it to say, depends on the swordsman (sorry ...person) and the purpose. May not be what you expected in an answer, but if we stop early enough, nothing regretable can be said.

Okori
13th August 2005, 07:08 AM
I second that notion.

ninjamster15
21st August 2005, 12:23 PM
there really isn't a "strongest art". They all have their ups and downs. iaido is powerful, yeah, but it relys on single strike attacks, where as kendo is move versitile, but it can take multiple strikes to finish a duel (in real life). How good a style is depends soley on the users skill and how its used.

2SwordStyle
21st August 2005, 03:57 PM
Asking people in general what the best art is never really works. Martial arts is like religion. People always think that the one they practice is the one true path and the only way. You get allot of that on this forum I'm sorry to say.

My best advice is to look around, do you research and find something that fits you. If you like sport and traditionalism.. try Kendo..or Iaido or both. If you want to learn to fight with a sword for real ..Try Kenjutsu and Iaijutsu.

Kendo is by far the easiest to find and easiest to confirm lagitimacy (though there are plenty of "legit" rotten eggs out there)

Kenjutsu is very hard to find and has even more rotten eggs then Kendo. Check that closely when you go in.

Basicly just use your common sense, if it looks and feels bogus it probubly is.

Good luck to ya

Gregory
21st August 2005, 06:40 PM
They all have their ups and downs, listen to the ninja, he is a master.

splice
21st August 2005, 09:21 PM
iaido is powerful, yeah, but it relys on single strike attacks, where as kendo is move versitile, but it can take multiple strikes to finish a duel (in real life).

It seems obvious that you don't do Iaido. There are very few waza that I've seen and done that contain only one strike, the great majority of them have one or more followup cuts.

Kendo is more versatile? How so, when you only have 4 target areas? Because you can keep hammering away at teki?

I must say, you have a very interesting profile... Have you thought of trying to find someone to teach you? Perhaps some training in one of the arts would help temper your ideas about them.

ScottUK
22nd August 2005, 03:38 AM
Oi, Ninjamaster - it says you are self-taught in enmei ryu? Can you tell us more about that style?

[quiet everyone...]

As for the thread, a kenjutsuka with no iai skills would get his 'nads chopped off pretty quickly, and an iaidoka with no kenjutsu skills better get it right first time... :D

Gregory
22nd August 2005, 04:17 AM
splice and scott, dont be mean to him, he will assassinate you

2SwordStyle
22nd August 2005, 04:49 AM
wow, for once I'm inclined to agree with Splice. Can someone check hell and see if it froze over?


Iaido waza is very typically more then 1 strike.

First strike to maim, second and more to kill.

There are also Iaido waza designed for a multi-opponent encounter that include a whole series of strikes.

ScottUK
22nd August 2005, 04:53 AM
splice and scott, dont be mean to him, he will assassinate youNot being mean - am interested in enmei ryu ninjutsu, is all...

Gregory
22nd August 2005, 05:17 AM
wow, for once I'm inclined to agree with Splice. Can someone check hell and see if it froze over?


Iaido waza is very typically more then 1 strike.

First strike to maim, second and more to kill.

There are also Iaido waza designed for a multi-opponent encounter that include a whole series of strikes.

YOU DID NOT JUST SAY HE WAS WRONG! your dead!

Wes Nazo
22nd August 2005, 11:16 PM
Not being mean - am interested in enmei ryu ninjutsu, is all...

Damn, I thought him having a name like "ninjamaster" was bad enough, until I looked at his profile.

Wes Nazo
23rd August 2005, 12:21 AM
Where is this anti-masterx person? Did we scare him off?

Zguy1217
27th January 2006, 04:17 PM
I have to agree with what most people said - the only true "Great Sword Style" is the one that fits the best for you. I've been working with various weapons for about 5 years now and focusing on dual wielding Katana and Wakizashi for about a year. I personally like the sword style I used from the small Ninjitsu school I trained in for a few months - Ichiyokogi. Though it isn't widely known - it has a variety of strikes. Most dealing with killing the opponent in one strike (hence the translation of the style).

Oh and yeah - Kendo is NOT versatile. It is the most obtuse sword style I've ever had the stupidity to train in - even for less than a month. It's decent if you want to START learning to use a sword, but to go into it when you all ready have a swordsmanship background is just a waste of time.

Basically my advice - go train in as many as you can get your hands on. If you don't find one you like - make your own from what you like about others.

Zguy1217
27th January 2006, 04:18 PM
I have to agree with what most people said - the only true "Great Sword Style" is the one that fits the best for you. I've been working with various weapons for about 5 years now and focusing on dual wielding Katana and Wakizashi for about a year. I personally like the sword style I used from the small Ninjitsu school I trained in for a few months - Ichiyokogi. Though it isn't widely known - it has a variety of strikes. Most dealing with killing the opponent in one strike (hence the translation of the style).

Oh and yeah - Kendo is NOT versatile. It is the most obtuse sword style I've ever had the stupidity to train in - even for less than a month. It's decent if you want to START learning to use a sword, but to go into it when you all ready have a swordsmanship background is just a waste of time.

Basically my advice - go train in as many as you can get your hands on. If you don't find one you like - make your own from what you like about others.

Fonsz
27th January 2006, 04:39 PM
Hello Jason,
How are you? Nice to hear from you, how's the leather business these days? I guess it's kinda slow since you are lecturing again here. It's not nice to say nasty things if you have only practiced Kendo for a month.
If you're not Jason then you sure sound like him. Better leave the criticism to us "stupid" Kendoka because we don't need you or someone like you to tell us the obvious.

ScottUK
27th January 2006, 05:10 PM
Oh and yeah - Kendo is NOT versatile. It is the most obtuse sword style I've ever had the stupidity to train in - even for less than a month. It's decent if you want to START learning to use a sword, but to go into it when you all ready have a swordsmanship background is just a waste of time.I HAVE gone into kendo from a sword background, and I can assure you and your decades of backyard self-teaching that you are, in fact, a berk.

Mr Troll (Justin maybe? Swordteacher99?), please go back under your rock. This is a kendo forum. Contribute or go find a virtual bridge...

Fonsz
27th January 2006, 06:25 PM
Hello Jason,
How are you? Nice to hear from you, how's the leather business these days? I guess it's kinda slow since you are lecturing again here. It's not nice to say nasty things if you have only practiced Kendo for a month.
If you're not Jason then you sure sound like him. Better leave the criticism to us "stupid" Kendoka because we don't need you or someone like you to tell us the obvious.
Where I said Jason read Justin. I'm sorry that I mixed you up with someone else. I humbly apologise.

ScottUK
27th January 2006, 06:28 PM
There's no mixing up Mr 2swordstyle... :D

nodachi
27th January 2006, 08:45 PM
Ninjitsu school... riiigggghhhhtttt...

Pardon my skepticism, but in all my time living in Japan I have never seen anywhere referred to as a "ninjitsu school"... who is your sensei, Rick Tew??? If anyone has a ninjitsu school, here would, but they don't, so prove us wrong... where do you train and then we can unlease the McDojo police on you... or eat our own words... but that is unlikely...

(maybe I shouldn't have brought that name up again... I will probably pay for this at some point in the near future... I better start wearing sunglasses so he doesn't throw sand and bits of glass in my eye...)

ScottUK
27th January 2006, 08:55 PM
...when you all ready have a swordsmanship background is just a waste of time.Never mind our shoddy ability, tell us about you... What's your background?

splice
28th January 2006, 12:56 AM
[...] the small Ninjitsu school I trained in for a few months - Ichiyokogi. Though it isn't widely known - it has a variety of strikes. Most dealing with killing the opponent in one strike (hence the translation of the style).

Perhaps you'd like to tell us more about this style. I cannot find any japanese translation of "Ichiyokogi" that would amount to what you said.



Oh and yeah - Kendo is NOT versatile. It is the most obtuse sword style I've ever had the stupidity to train in - even for less than a month. It's decent if you want to START learning to use a sword, but to go into it when you all ready have a swordsmanship background is just a waste of time.

It's good that you can make this call with your weeks of kendo practice and years of studying various styles. 'Scuse me if I tend to agree with sensei with decades of experience in one or two arts instead. Iaido and Kendo, two wheels to a cart. Saying that kendo is "not versatile" is ridiculous, just as much as saying that it's more versatile than Iaido. The art has its purpose and has much to teach. That you found it stupid doesn't mean much - your practice in no way reflects what Japanese Sword Arts are about, and more what backyard samurai with fertile imaginations are about.



Basically my advice - go train in as many as you can get your hands on. If you don't find one you like - make your own from what you like about others.
Worst. Advice. Ever.

Before you start studying a sword art, ask yourself why you want to do it. If it's because you want to learn how to fight with a sword, slap yourself in the face and remember that we don't fight with swords anymore. It's a useless skill. The arts have much more to teach you than that, and anyone can just pick up a sword and kill anyone else without trouble. Find a better use of your time, or think of other reasons to study the arts.

ScottUK
28th January 2006, 01:29 AM
Amen, Brother Splice. With one small correction:

"Slap yourself in the face anyway"...

GoldenShinai
28th January 2006, 03:18 AM
Furocious Earthic
...Formerly known as Aquatic Windu...

Everyone knows that. Duh. Stupid.:smoker:

Bladesong
31st August 2007, 04:23 AM
that you will be unable to compensate for sudden changes in the fight, however by studying several styles that differ drasticaly you will have a much greater advantage then mastering the so called best style.

Dan Weber
31st August 2007, 05:26 AM
I thought Zatoichi-ryu was the greatest sword-style ever? Please don't tell me I have been wasting all my time watching those teaching DVD's with "Beat" Takeshi! Dammit!!

http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2929

Of course I think Sensei Robn Meeks is a ninja grandmaster as well now since the url has "disappeared".

Dan Weber

ScottUK
31st August 2007, 06:36 AM
that you will be unable to compensate for sudden changes in the fight, however by studying several styles that differ drasticaly you will have a much greater advantage then mastering the so called best style.Really? That is interesting. Can you explain a little further as I don't think I understand correctly...

turboyoshi
31st August 2007, 07:38 AM
that you will be unable to compensate for sudden changes in the fight, however by studying several styles that differ drasticaly you will have a much greater advantage then mastering the so called best style.

The perfect style does exist. It's the one you perfect. When you are good enough with your style, it won't matter what style the other person knows.

This thinking that you need to learn so much variety is a common fallacy of young people's thinking and IMO, reflects a very shallow understanding of martial arts. The reason there are so many different styles out there is so that you can find one that fits your body type crossed with your personality type.

When you find that "perfect" style, you have to keep in mind that it will only be the perfect style for you. Please, don't get pushy with your religion and try to convert the rest of us. :)


sean

Oh yeah and PS. gun-jutsu pwns knife-jutsu. (assuming you know how to use a gun. and the other guy isn't too good with his knife. damn, i thought i had the perfect style...)

Kendoka_Han
31st August 2007, 03:17 PM
Basically my advice - go train in as many as you can get your hands on. If you don't find one you like - make your own from what you like about others.

Uh oh. I went down that path and realized I was completely wrong.

Dude, don't do backyard sword stuff. Kendo is the most complicated sword form you will ever try and achieve in.

I got the explanation about kenjutsu vs kendo a couple of days ago, which made me thinking about kendo and its "limitations", which brought me to the conclusion that kendo is a lot more complex, harder, a lot more self improvement, etc than kenjutsu.

kartoffelngeist
31st August 2007, 05:45 PM
that you will be unable to compensate for sudden changes in the fight, however by studying several styles that differ drasticaly you will have a much greater advantage then mastering the so called best style.

What fight?

JoDuncan
31st August 2007, 06:17 PM
I got the explanation about kenjutsu vs kendo a couple of days ago, which made me thinking about kendo and its "limitations", which brought me to the conclusion that kendo is a lot more complex, harder, a lot more self improvement, etc than kenjutsu.

Uh oh... you may have just awakened the lions...

----

:D

emitbrownne
31st August 2007, 06:31 PM
how the chuff do people find these old threads.?!?!.


I can never use the search facility properly.....:confused:

:laugh:

ScottUK
31st August 2007, 06:35 PM
I got the explanation about kenjutsu vs kendo a couple of days ago, which made me thinking about kendo and its "limitations", which brought me to the conclusion that kendo is a lot more complex, harder, a lot more self improvement, etc than kenjutsu.I don't see a problem with this.

For me, kendo is extremely complex (more then I ever thought as I was anti-kendo for a time), but at the same time, once a person introduces 'the fight' feeling into kenjutsu practice and not just practices kata by repetition, the same complexities and difficulty become the norm. In practice (and aftewards), the questions begin to creep in - "what if uchidachi did X instead of Y" etc. If you address these questions and not just gloss over them it becomes a fight and not just a dance.

Kendoka_Han
31st August 2007, 07:14 PM
Uh oh... you may have just awakened the lions...

----

:D

Is this meant to be sarcasm :emb:

Heres what I was trying to say.

Kendo:

Only 4 valid targets, and all the throws, grapples removed. Concentrate on fighting within these limitations and try and improve every practice and you are on a road to self-improvement.

This leads to a much more complex look/feel to kendo.

Kenjutsu:

Kill the other guy using whatever means necessary. Practiced as kata (mostly).

ScottUK
31st August 2007, 07:39 PM
Heres what I was trying to say.No, it is not what you were trying to say at all, was it?

While I stand by what I said, when you PM me and ask the difference between kendo and kenjutsu, the PM was for you and not for posting as your own - and out of context with the rest of the PM.

Berk.

JoDuncan
31st August 2007, 07:45 PM
See?

Lions, told you so.

*Chucks ScottUK a piece of beef*

:D:D

Owen
31st August 2007, 07:45 PM
hold on just a minute. you told him those things and he posted them for himself?

well thats not very nice of him...

ScottUK
31st August 2007, 07:53 PM
I left the appropriate rep, don't worry. Muppet.

Kendoka_Han
31st August 2007, 09:55 PM
No, it is not what you were trying to say at all, was it?

While I stand by what I said, when you PM me and ask the difference between kendo and kenjutsu, the PM was for you and not for posting as your own - and out of context with the rest of the PM.

Berk.

Well if everyone wants clarification that it was you who gave me that paragraph, well so be it.

I tell you all that, thats what ScottUK told me, and I understand the concept fully. I was in no way trying to recreate it out of context, or plagiarize or whatever the stupid reason is.

Oh and Scott, I just provided the important bits of your paragraph, shall I post the whole thing then? With your name?

As far as it seems, no one knew it was you anyway, until you quoted that comment of mine. I wasn't even trying to prove awesome and a know-all.

ScottUK
31st August 2007, 10:08 PM
No you may not post any PMs.

Neil Gendzwill
31st August 2007, 10:34 PM
Kendoka_Han, just to clarify without name-calling: posting contents of PMs or e-mails without permission, no matter how innocuous, is just Not Done, it's bad netiquette and has been so since before there was an internet. If someone sends you information by PM, they intend it to be private, otherwise they'd post it in-thread.

ScottUK
31st August 2007, 10:53 PM
Kendoka_Han, just to clarify without name-callingThat's why you are mod and I am not. I am far more prone to spitting my dummy out, especially when I am trying to help others and they then turn out to be muppets.

Kenzan
1st September 2007, 12:02 AM
Uh oh. I went down that path and realized I was completely wrong.


This is the most insightful thing I've ever read from you.
Never thought I'd do this..
You get a rep!
:)

Kendoka_Han
1st September 2007, 04:54 AM
This is the most insightful thing I've ever read from you.
Never thought I'd do this..
You get a rep!
:)

Well it looks like my reputation has gone over a simple PM muck up. :pirate:

Kaoru
3rd September 2007, 12:22 PM
Originally Posted by Bladesong that you will be unable to compensate for sudden changes in the fight, however by studying several styles that differ drasticaly you will have a much greater advantage then mastering the so called best style.



Really? That is interesting. Can you explain a little further as I don't think I understand correctly...

Hi Scott! :)

Oh, don't encourage him... That's not nice! He might get himself in trouble and then get climbed on. :(

Bladesong-san, If one tried to learn many arts at once, a person would spread themselves too thin and not learn any well at all. It's better to learn just one to start. And, maybe another at a later time. Keeping up two and do extremely well at both would be hard enough. I don't know more than a couple people who excel at more than one at a high level.

Can we help you in any way with finding a dojo if you haven't one yet?

Kaoru

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 05:06 PM
I think whatever Style that fits that unique person is the best style of all. Whether It's one style or many that you see fit it all has to have meaning to you. Now i have not gone to any Swordsmenship Dojo's so I really can't compare what it feels like internaly. But i created two styles at which are completely differant than each other, first is Keyanshan which is for fighting one person such as a duel, and the other is Switchblade which is for fighting multiple opponent which would be a battlefield. How i came up with these is i pictured myself as a Samurai in each position and how would I fight to Protect the People that I Love. Now i have tested my styles in a real time sparring and i learned what and what not to do through the mistakes(whiched really hurt by the way) and learned how to correct them so it doesn't happen again. Thats the way i feel when i practice and it feels good that I belive in what i do. Thats the way you should feel when you find that style that is meant for you, not neccasarily the way i feel but in that sorta way that make you feel good about why you do it and still belive it.

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 05:19 PM
But i created two styles at which are completely differant than each other, first is Keyanshan which is for fighting one person such as a duel, and the other is Switchblade which is for fighting multiple opponent which would be a battlefield.Sweet. Do they have completely different techniques, or different applications of the same technique?

Mr. T.
27th February 2008, 05:50 PM
...i have never had any acutual training in a dojo...

And you claim to have create 2 styles of MA:


But i created two styles at which are completely differant than each other, first is Keyanshan which is for fighting one person such as a duel, and the other is Switchblade which is for fighting multiple opponent which would be a battlefield.

Oh wait this explains it:

How i came up with these is i pictured myself as a Samurai in each position and how would I fight to Protect the People that I Love.


Now i have tested my styles in a real time sparring and i learned what and what not to do through the mistakes(whiched really hurt by the way) and learned how to correct them so it doesn't happen again.

Sparring ain't combat kid, a real fight is completely different that a bit of sparring. I've spoken several (ring) fighters about this. hate to say this, but you sound like another wannabe samurai. :confused2 If you want to learn how to really be MAist, ask mommy to get you to a dojo :mad:


Consider myself between beginner and itermidiate in Swordsmanship.

Listen carefully please, training swordsmanship on your own is dangerous kid, you ,or worse an innocent bystander could get hurt, please stop this nonsense or get your @$$ to a dojo. You are no beginner nor intermediate, you’re a fantasy warrior.

And get yourself a spelling check, please, your English is horrible, even worse than mine and I'm dyslectic and English is my second language.

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 06:40 PM
Keyanshan and Switchblade use completely differant techniques . Keyanshan is more of straight forward style with a unique way to grip your sword and alot of surprise attacks that are not expected at all i spent along time sparring with people to see what to use and when to use it. The grip is off hand on top with only the thumb around the handle and the fingers outside around the handle and dominant on bottom sorta a reverse grip it would be easier to show but don't know how to, so that you can use powerful attacks and be able to control it better and come back with a counter easier, Example going for the finishing move a heavy straight down slash you notice he starts to back away then halfway down uses the force of the gap between the handle and fingers to stop midway and turn it into a thrust. Switchblade is where you are constantly switching sword hands its a one handed style but constantly switching hands. I practiced by tieing one hand behind my back then switched hands so I'm no longer left or right handed fighter. I thought of how to use alot of strength with minimum force to conserve stamina, so most of the attacks uses the force from one arm and using that same force without using as much energy as you would doing another attack. Example There is someone on your left and you attack with your right hand witch has the sword in a diagnal strike down and then there is someone coming behind you using the same force you grab with your left hand then release your right hand and then strike at the person right behind you with a horizantal attack, Its very difficult to explain. This style also involves alot of spinning into the attack to get more forceto accomindate the switching of the hands, so you gotta have very strong core as well. there's more to it than that to my styles but its to difficult to explain as with any other style of fighting its best to show how its done as stated before i don't know how to show ya'll. Hope that clarifies it a little went through alot of pain to make em so i hope that they would be good enough to be used back during the Day. Also i will accept all advice from anyone to make My styles more effective . Just let me know and I'll be Happy. I also have a Style that involves a gun and knife much like Snake from Metal Gear Solid3 but in a realastic way i call it CQCG although it may already exist. Hope ya'll enjoy. if you wanna send me tips or more about what i do tell me on either this forum or PM me. Thank ya'll for the time i've been here.

"Always show respect, even to those who don't deserve it." Unknown

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 06:43 PM
Sorry I said alot I'll try to keep it shorter i have a habit of doing that.:)

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 06:46 PM
Hmmm, sounds like the art I copyrighted three years ago. Are you copying me? Are you looking to receive a lawsuit? I WILL sue your arse. I mean it. I'll take you for everything you have. Your momma will rue the day you registered on Kendo World. She will be feeling it for years.

Your house (and your momma) are mine.

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 07:04 PM
What....... for real sorry about that then.

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 07:06 PM
:eek:WAITTTTTT did you just talk about my momma.:confused2

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 07:13 PM
Time waits for no man. Or momma.

Mr. T.
27th February 2008, 07:45 PM
I give up, this is hopeless :disapp:

Krav mamma style: if you want to play with swords, go ahead. Just make sure that you only mutelate yourself and no-one else.

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 07:52 PM
Hehe Krav Mamma. No rep for you, sorry...

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 08:05 PM
Whats Krav Momma. And whats rep. I want to learn Krav Maga which is an Israel fighting style for pure self defense. Just to clear that up.

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 08:09 PM
Oh Krav mamma is me ok gotcha.

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 08:24 PM
Dude, on a serious note: what makes your IYH styles better than all the others that were developed through personal experience?

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 08:51 PM
I don't think my style is better but i may not be good at all. BUt with every one i spar with ( i use foampadded swords they use wood not fair) i fight with all my heart sometimes thats whats really makes a style good just like the Warriors of Old. I sometime's spar with people who goes to those Dojo's and they teach me a little of what they learned so its just not mine its all the people who help me style. Like Bruce Lee created Jeet Kune Do most of his moves are self taught such as the One and Three inch punch. "Will my style beat yours" maybe, maybe not it all depends on the person i belive i don't think i spelled that right sorry, anyho i hope that explains it if not I don't think i can explain it anymore and just forget i said anything about my two styles because that was not the point i was makeing in my first comment read every thing else besides that as i only used those as a referance not as I am Master. Hope that cleared it up. Let me know.

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 08:54 PM
The main difference (but I'm sure there are more) between you and Mr Lee is that he had a solid grounding in martial arts before developing JKD.

What is your background in MA? I'm sure you have one, seeing as you've come to a forum full of people who have dedicated their lives to studying budo and told them how great you are...

shred_lord
27th February 2008, 09:07 PM
BUt with every one i spar with ( i use foampadded swords they use wood not fair) i fight with all my heart sometimes thats whats really makes a style good just like the Warriors of Old.
That's perilously close to the whole " But The First Swordsman Taught Themselves" argument.

My counter argument is here (http://www.budoweb.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=2)

JSchmidt
27th February 2008, 09:23 PM
I also have a Style that involves a gun and knife much like Snake from Metal Gear Solid3 but in a realastic way i call it CQCG although it may already exist.

CQCG? Close Quarter Computer Graphics?. Is that when you get into close quarter fighting, you just replace yourself with a digital double to do the fighting for you?.
Very neat..wish I had thought of that.

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 09:25 PM
Please FORGET I SAID THAT, It wasn't the point of my first post,it was about the moral of it . There are many differances and i mean many many differances between me and Bruce Lee. I have no MA history but i am a fighter i go for the throat eyes nose and groin as i have no MA history. Which is why I want to learn Krav Maga as I've also stated iin some of my other post. please just listen to the moral of the story Alright.

zveki
27th February 2008, 09:37 PM
Using words like "fighting style" or "martial art" today is very ungrateful, something not defined by rules of sport competition is hard to prove functional in "real life situations", and not to mention risk you are taking with telling people what technique suits in some risky situation... Someone can get really hurt! Anyway Krav Maga Style just keep your faith and discipline in everything you do in life, without those you surely won't advance... And read my signature :)

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 09:54 PM
You know what your right. Which is why i want to learn Krav Maga which isn't a fighting style but something that is meant for PURE self defense in a real life situation. I wish to become a Policemen because i have taken "To protect the ones you love"Straight into my heart which I think was the hidden path.

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 09:55 PM
"I can do this"

"My style is the best"

"Actually, ignore that bit"

"Forget I said that"

Fella, what's your point of being here?

a) To sell your too cool for school style to us?
b) To impress us?
c) To learn?

If it is:

a) Forget it - we're all happy doing what we do
b) Forget it - there are MA-ists on here that are just awesome at what they do. And if you ask them they will all respond with 'I'm still learning".
c) Go to a sword dojo. Learn. That'll impress us.

Oh, and this ain't a krav-maga forum. And IMHO, krav-maga isn't that hot (from what I've seen). There are other military combatives which are each excellent in their own way.

JSchmidt
27th February 2008, 10:02 PM
You know what your right. Which is why i want to learn Krav Maga

What does that have to do with computer graphics ..or for that matter, why are you posting on a kendo board about Krav Maga?.

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 10:40 PM
The greatest sword style is.... there is none its the one you belive is the best that fits you and has a meaning for you and show sometihng inside of you that has you never knew was apart of you, They could be as differant a style as any but as long as you see an end that changes you for the better. That is the moral that i was talking about.

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 10:44 PM
Aha, Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu. I understand now.

You never answered my question...

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 10:46 PM
May i ask what was the question you asked.

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 10:48 PM
Not rocket science to find it. It was a few posts ago.

"I can do this"

"My style is the best"

"Actually, ignore that bit"

"Forget I said that"

Fella, what's your point of being here?

a) To sell your too cool for school style to us?
b) To impress us?
c) To learn?

If it is:

a) Forget it - we're all happy doing what we do
b) Forget it - there are MA-ists on here that are just awesome at what they do. And if you ask them they will all respond with 'I'm still learning".
c) Go to a sword dojo. Learn. That'll impress us.

Oh, and this ain't a krav-maga forum. And IMHO, krav-maga isn't that hot (from what I've seen). There are other military combatives which are each excellent in their own way.

Mr. T.
27th February 2008, 10:50 PM
Hi Krav mamma...uhh Maga. Listen kid (I asume your a kid), we caught you with your pants down and we didn't liked what we saw. Toying with your sword is stupid (:D) and claiming that you study sword arts without proper instructions is just... dumb. We really don't care about krav maga (of what I've seen, not very impressive, if you want to learn the good stuff, I'm afraid you need to join the Israeli Army. This means you will go to a REAL warzone). The stuff I've seen in the Netherlands looked unimpressive, lots of the guys (most of them where middle aged, overweight, sad looking guys) looked as if they where afraid to sweat. But that's my opinion and I really hope I'm wrong. Anyhow, if you want to learn martial arts for selfdefence, get your butt to a judo/ BJJ dojo. Fun, a good work out and very effective. These schools are wide spread and inexpensive.

So please give up the BS and go to a dojo, because

YOU CAN NOT LEARN A MARTIAL ART WITHOUT PROPER INSTRUCTIONS

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 10:53 PM
No.No.and Yes i want to learn however no one should be to stubberned learn something new i think. And what do you mean by Hiten Misturugi Ryu is it good or bad because i like the meaning of what it stands for.

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 10:54 PM
Hi Krav mamma...uhh Maga. Listen kid (I asume your a kid), we caught you with your pants down and we didn't liked what we saw.Is this a Dutch thing? What if you were impressed? ;)

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 10:56 PM
No.No.and Yes i want to learn however no one should be to stubberned learn something new i think. And what do you mean by Hiten Misturugi Ryu is it good or bad because i like the meaning of what it stands for.Even Babelfish couldn't help me.

Anyone?

absenteekendoka
27th February 2008, 10:56 PM
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!!!

Ninjas!!!!!!!!

Where is master Gotlin!!!!! :)

Neil Gendzwill
27th February 2008, 11:00 PM
Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu is a made-up style that comes from Japanese comic books. It's not real.

Many of us played in our backyards with swords, just be careful, don't use anything sharp. If you're serious about learning swordsmanship, you're an hour away from Dallas/Fort Worth Kendo and Iaido Kyokai (http://www.dfwkik.org/2004/classes.html). It's not as convenient as your backyard, but you'll be able to train with people who really know what they're doing.

Mr. T.
27th February 2008, 11:00 PM
Is this a Dutch thing? What if you were impressed? ;)

Why do you want to know? Are you comming over?

:p

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:00 PM
Mr.T i don't understand what you mean by pants down as i have never backed down from what i've said, i have said that forget the styles i mentioned as it was not the meaning of the story. I stoped being a kid when i decided to become a Policeman and i will take you last part into heart so as of now i will not teach my self anything new without proper instruction In martial arts thank you.

JCM
27th February 2008, 11:02 PM
Yes, Krav Maga, extremely useful when unarmed kids throw stones at your armoured vehicle

Usually taugh in "learn to kill in two days for 2 grand" travelling circuses



Sorry guys, continue....

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:06 PM
Wish i had 2 grand.

That was also you 1000th post JCM

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 11:07 PM
Wish I had an armoured vehicle.

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:08 PM
HELLllll YEAH True that. sorry about the curse word.

JSchmidt
27th February 2008, 11:10 PM
I smell a troll...

JCM
27th February 2008, 11:12 PM
Wish I had an armoured vehicle.

Ok, ok, chav's don't count, knock yourself out :)


HELLllll YEAH True that. sorry about the curse word.

sigh....

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:12 PM
Although i don't think i would want the reason why you need to be in one though. All soldiers who puts their lives on the line friend or foe deserves our respect i belive.

absenteekendoka
27th February 2008, 11:14 PM
Wish I had an armoured vehicle.

Nice little Leopard Mark II perhaps? :)

Its Ninja proof!!!!

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 11:15 PM
Krav,

Are you going to study a Japanese Sword Art, based upon Neil's relatively local recommendation?

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:17 PM
No on all of ya'll recomidatioins.

absenteekendoka
27th February 2008, 11:18 PM
Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu is a made-up style that comes from Japanese comic books. It's not real.

Many of us played in our backyards with swords, just be careful, don't use anything sharp. If you're serious about learning swordsmanship, you're an hour away from Dallas/Fort Worth Kendo and Iaido Kyokai (http://www.dfwkik.org/2004/classes.html). It's not as convenient as your backyard, but you'll be able to train with people who really know what they're doing.

If your serious and not just trolling listen to Neil Sensei. Otherwise your just going to hurt your self or some one else.

'he who teaches himself has a fool for a master'

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:19 PM
I really need to learn how to spell. Also to see if i can incorporate some of the ideas to the Head Instructor to see if they are useful or not.

ghostdancer
27th February 2008, 11:22 PM
oh crap ! this is going to escalate badly later

Hi Krav, read and act on Neils recommendation

stop playing with sharp things (this is why http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=53083)

read the thread, till you find the unpleasant pictures

if you want to find out what a "real" combat situation is like join the army or marines

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:23 PM
Ohh belive me i have hurt my self I stoped useing a real sword after practiceing drawing out the blade strike and went to put back in the sheath in you move BAD IDEA it was 2nd try gouged the fleshy part between the thumb and Index finger so i don't use real swords anymore but still got it.

I tried to Join the Marines I'm deaf in left ear so instant rejection not even given a Physical.

ghostdancer
27th February 2008, 11:29 PM
Ohh belive me i have hurt my self I stoped useing a real sword after practiceing drawing out the blade strike and went to put back in the sheath in you move BAD IDEA it was 2nd try gouged the fleshy part between the thumb and Index finger so i don't use real swords anymore but still got it.

that really should have told you a simple truth
GET A SENSEI FROM A PROPER DOJO, BEFORE YOU KILL SOMEONE you numpty !

btw have you ever heard of the Darwin Awards?

so what makes you think the cops will touch you with a bargepole then ! (being deaf in one ear)

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:35 PM
I got a friend who is the head dude up in a town and a personal friend of my mom's and that if i wanna be a cop he'll get me in without takeing the hearing test thing as long as i pass everything else with flying colors.

The Marines Force Recon was my dream for the next 20 years, broken, I have to do something to help the innicent people in this world somehow.

ghostdancer
27th February 2008, 11:38 PM
I got a friend who is the head dude up in a town and a personal friend of my mom's and that if i wanna be a cop he'll get me in without takeing the hearing test thing as long as i pass everything else with flying colors.

that nice, nepotism in action!

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:38 PM
Whats Darwins Awards??

ghostdancer
27th February 2008, 11:39 PM
Whats Darwins Awards??+

use Google to gain enlightenment

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:40 PM
Meant Head Cop really good person was security at my mom's walmart but got promted and he's the top dog but he is very respected by the town exept for the Bad guys he arrests.

ScottUK
27th February 2008, 11:44 PM
From security guard to Commissioner Gordon in a promotion? I wanna live there.

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:45 PM
Yep i was almost could of been in the in the Darwin Awards thats for sure.

JCM
27th February 2008, 11:47 PM
I got a friend who is the head dude up in a town and a personal friend of my mom's and that if i wanna be a cop he'll get me in without takeing the hearing test thing as long as i pass everything else with flying colors.

Oh yeah, the Super Bad movie came to mind for some reason

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:47 PM
Well he was already a SGT in the Police force. but he did Security($120 an hour close to what he gets paid a day) part time because cops don't make alot of money.

I never watched Super Bad is it a good movie?

"Mclovin" hehe always funny to see that part of the commercial.

ghostdancer
27th February 2008, 11:51 PM
Yep i was almost could of been in the in the Darwin Awards thats for sure.
still time kiddo !

just as a matter of interest how old are you?

Krav Maga Style
27th February 2008, 11:55 PM
Like cleaning a loaded gun.:ko:

how do you clean out the inside of a wooden saya??

absenteekendoka
28th February 2008, 12:00 AM
From security guard to Commissioner Gordon in a promotion? I wanna live there.

I'm BATMAN! :)

Oroshi
28th February 2008, 12:02 AM
how do you clean out the inside of a wooden saya??

With proper training.

Krav Maga Style
28th February 2008, 12:03 AM
Im superman, why do you get all the gadgets.

absenteekendoka
28th February 2008, 12:05 AM
I'm smelling a trollllll to. But really get thee to a dojo, a legitimate dojo. Learn a real art, dedicate yourself to it if ever want to be taken seriously. Again , follow Neil senseis advice.

(tapping microphone..........check check....) "Is this thing on?..."

Mr. T.
28th February 2008, 12:06 AM
Mr.T i don't understand what you mean by pants down as i have never backed down from what i've said,

Ah, come on man, you came here with your made up nonsence and we adressed you (made fun of you, what ever)


I stoped being a kid when i decided to become a Policeman and i will take you last part into heart so as of now i will not teach my self anything new without proper instruction In martial arts thank you.

I wanted to be a cop to, when is was about 10. Did I become an adult then? Don't think so. How old are you anyway?


Although i don't think i would want the reason why you need to be in one though. All soldiers who puts their lives on the line friend or foe deserves our respect i belive.

I'm not even going into that :confused2


Also to see if i can incorporate some of the ideas to the Head Instructor to see if they are useful or not.

They are usefull, %&*$ (<- censored because I like to stay a member of this forum). Don't think you can add stuff to your "backyard ryu" because... Why am I even trying. It's like taking to a broken record player, the same BS over and over again.


I tried to Join the Marines I'm deaf in left ear so instant rejection not even given a Physical.

Sorry to say this, but you need working 2 ears to be a cop. I'm really sorry. Again, you're 18, 19? Finish college, leave Fantasy land and go and find yourself a place in the real world. Because the real world is what you make of it and at the moment it sounds as if your life isn't a happy one.


I got a friend who is the head dude up in a town and a personal friend of my mom's and that if i wanna be a cop he'll get me in without takeing the hearing test thing as long as i pass everything else with flying colors.

That's called corruption dude, one fine cop your friend is and one fine cop you'll be. Besides, that being half deaf means that you will endanger your partner. I hope you'll survive in the inquiry and jail time when they find out your partner got killed/ wounded because you wanted to be a cop at all cost and leid on your aplication.

Krav Maga Style
28th February 2008, 12:07 AM
What do you mean by Troll?? And yes i plan on going to check out the school.

Mr. T.
28th February 2008, 12:08 AM
I'm smelling a trollllll to.

Me to, but we're havin' so much fun.

Done working, see you all tomorrow :D

Krav Maga Style
28th February 2008, 12:10 AM
I have done my research talked to the Head cop, I have to have 45 hours of Accredited hours min, must pass pysical part and written and the part where they talk to you where you they ask you questions with flying colors. Oh i'm 19 planning on beoming one when im 21.

Thats wrong you hurt my feelings. sniff sniff I'm no troll.... Am I?

absenteekendoka
28th February 2008, 12:12 AM
Thats wrong you hurt my feelings. sniff sniff I'm no troll.... Am I?

You tell us. :)

Anonymous
28th February 2008, 04:49 AM
in during retarded

pgsmith
28th February 2008, 07:15 AM
Not a troll I think so much as an ignorant little kid. Take a look at the writing style of our beloved "I wanna start a ninja clan" warrior Bear, and the writing style of "I wanna be a cop and make my own sword school" warrior Krav Smegma Style.

http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17105

Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!


:D

Kagerou
28th February 2008, 08:34 AM
All this talk about the best sword style has brought out the desire in me to start my own.

.....
.....

No wait that's just the insanity talking. Sorry.......

Well KMV if you've managed to cut yourself once and survive take it as an omen and have someone who knows what they're doing teach you how to handle a sword.

I can understand your enthusiasm for wanting to use a real sword. I personally really enjoy cutting pratice but my sensei was in the room with me (far far away but still....) and he made sure I wasn't going to hurt myself or someone around me.

Also, there are other ways to help people than just being a police officer. Things that don't require you to have perfect hearing. There is a reason the police force has a hearing test. Think about it and I'm sure you'll understand why.

and finally...If you really are just a troll please stop bothering us and let us enjoy each others opinions in the mature manner we oh so enjoy.

Krav Maga Style
28th February 2008, 01:32 PM
I don't know how to quote so this is for Kagegou. I know why they have a hearing test however I know of no other way to protect the people who needs it Please give me some advise of what i could do that because thats all i've trained for. Rest for everyone else, I'm no longer going to post anything else here, Primarly to many disrespectful people. I would only advise don't be assholes and just voice your opinion in a NICE way. I belive what i belive thats all that matters. And please no more coments about me and get to the orginal post Thank you and goodbye.

Jiyoui
28th February 2008, 01:54 PM
KMS, sorry about your bad experiences here.
From what I've read, page 6-9, you sound like a very respectable person. Mature resorting to the typical angry back lashes.
I would like to believe that most of the people on here are very nice people. Some are just a little defensive. Some just like to have a little fun on the internet.
(I just blame the internet)

I wish you well in your purist of whatever you wish to study.
I shall reiterate what some people have said already. Make sure to pick a respectable place to study whatever art you wish to pursue.
and
If you continue with you choice as a police officer, be careful and I shall be trusting you to up hold the law in a just and un-bais manner in Wills Point.

Allan Yee
28th February 2008, 04:05 PM
... I know of no other way to protect the people who needs it Please give me some advise of what i could do that because thats all i've trained for.

Go to college, study plumbing, go forth and do good work thereby preventing sewer gases from backing up into people's homes and asphyxiating them.

I'm serious.

Everyone wants to be the hero, slay dragons, rescue damsels and bask in the accolades of an adoring public. But it's far more important that the unsung, everyday hard work of keeping society functioning be done well than to produce more testosterone addled macho-men who can sew up their own war wounds with 10 lb mono-filament.

Sorry about the grammar crash, I know this sounds preachy.

Allan
(Back to lurking)

Anonymous
28th February 2008, 04:06 PM
I don't know how to quote so this is for Kagegou. I know why they have a hearing test however I know of no other way to protect the people who needs it Please give me some advise of what i could do that because thats all i've trained for. Rest for everyone else, I'm no longer going to post anything else here, Primarly to many disrespectful people. I would only advise don't be assholes and just voice your opinion in a NICE way. I belive what i belive thats all that matters. And please no more coments about me and get to the orginal post Thank you and goodbye.



Compared to the other decent MA forums on the net, people here are still really polite, even when flaming each other. Don't post anything on the net if you can't deal with the crap thats on it.

ScottUK
28th February 2008, 04:13 PM
This is true. As one of the Queen's subjects, I maintain a certain air of decorum at all times - and always put on a suit and bowler hat before tearing a troll a new rusty-bullet-hole.

Mr. T.
28th February 2008, 04:14 PM
I don't know how to quote so this is for Kagegou. I know why they have a hearing test however I know of no other way to protect the people who needs it Please give me some advise of what i could do that because thats all i've trained for.

First learn to write, I'm not kidding your writing is horrible. You really sound like a little kid here: I wanna be a cop, me wanna, wanna, mommy! Get a grip, will yah. :confused2

Buy a hearing aid, become a medic (or something) there is more to the world than the police force, geez. But your parents (and "commissioner Lazard") should have told you that, not some punk on a forum for stick swinging nuts.


I would only advise don't be assholes and just voice your opinion in a NICE way.

If you behave like an idiot you'll get a stupid (rude) responce, here on the net and in the real world. That's all I have to say.

I'm bored... you're going on the ignore list.

Kagerou
28th February 2008, 04:31 PM
I don't know how to quote so this is for Kagegou.

handy little button on the bottom right corner of the post.


I know why they have a hearing test however I know of no other way to protect the people who needs it

Then accept the fact that it is better for everyone if you choose a different profession. You can help people in many ways, not just the standard childhood dreams of cop, fireman, or fighter pilot. Helping people is more a state of mind than a set list of jobs. I teach english to people who need/want to learn. I try my best to help everyone of my students.


Please give me some advise of what i could do that because thats all i've trained for. Rest for everyone else, I'm no longer going to post anything else here, Primarly to many disrespectful people. I would only advise don't be assholes and just voice your opinion in a NICE way. I belive what i belive thats all that matters. And please no more coments about me and get to the orginal post Thank you and goodbye.

Your choice but you'll find the people here would be quite willing to help you as soon as you drop the "I invented my own style" attitude. No matter what any stories tell us no one just comes up with a brand new "ultimate" martial art. It's taken thousands of years for what we have now to develop into what it is. There are no Tengu or other magical creatures that bestow knowledge on people. Both knowledge and wisdom take time. Remember, you're 19, live your life a little more before you try and run off to be a hero. You'll live longer that way.

Anonymous
28th February 2008, 04:32 PM
This is true. As one of the Queen's subjects, I maintain a certain air of decorum at all times - and always put on a suit and bowler hat before tearing a troll a new rusty-bullet-hole.

Do you also have a monocle and cane?

Spooky
28th February 2008, 06:42 PM
Wish I had an armoured vehicle.

Yeah but that's only becuase you're frightened of your missus!

Kagerou
28th February 2008, 06:43 PM
Yeah but that's only becuase you're frightened of your missus!

Badoom cha!

ScottUK
28th February 2008, 06:47 PM
...and you guys couldn't be any more accurate. I carry 150lb weight advantage and she still kicks the shit out of me.

Kagerou
28th February 2008, 08:21 PM
...and you guys couldn't be any more accurate. I carry 150lb weight advantage and she still kicks the shit out of me.

Weight means very little when she's got a frying pan in one hand and a butchers knife in the other. :jaguar: :eek:

ScottUK
28th February 2008, 08:33 PM
Ah, you've met her? :D

Unicorn Horn
28th February 2008, 09:32 PM
Met, i got a Girlfriend just like that and then i give the famous "Sorry honey" speech.

Big One
28th February 2008, 11:56 PM
I don't know how to quote so this is for Kagegou. I know why they have a hearing test however I know of no other way to protect the people who needs it Please give me some advise of what i could do that because thats all i've trained for. Rest for everyone else, I'm no longer going to post anything else here, Primarly to many disrespectful people. I would only advise don't be assholes and just voice your opinion in a NICE way. I belive what i belive thats all that matters. And please no more coments about me and get to the orginal post Thank you and goodbye.


If you want to do something good in this society, become a civil engineer. They build sewer treatment plants, roadways, bridge, and so on. That is another way to protect people from desease.

Big One
29th February 2008, 12:01 AM
Met, i got a Girlfriend just like that and then i give the famous "Sorry honey" speech.


And men still fall into this trap for many thousand years. What a woman has that a doll doesn't?:smoker:

tattooedasshole
29th February 2008, 12:46 AM
I would only advise don't be assholes and just voice your opinion in a NICE way.
But it takes an asshole to make shit happen.

zveki
29th February 2008, 06:31 PM
And men still fall into this trap for many thousand years. What a woman has that a doll doesn't?:smoker:

If that's you on your avatar, there is nothing a woman has for you mate :P

zveki
29th February 2008, 08:15 PM
There is an option to edit, but not to delete your own post...?
Sorry 2all for off topic :)

ScottUK
29th February 2008, 08:15 PM
Not after 5 or 10 mins. Its there FOREVER! ;)

zveki
29th February 2008, 08:35 PM
Not after 5 or 10 mins. Its there FOREVER! ;)

Yeah, but is there an option to delete or you can just edit post? Maybe I can't see well :pirate:

Neil Gendzwill
29th February 2008, 10:14 PM
I deleted your duplicate. I don't believe regular users can delete their posts, only edit them within the 5 minute window. Keeps people from going back and editing posts when they get called on their BS.

Decado
29th February 2008, 10:54 PM
I also have a Style that involves a gun and knife much like Snake from Metal Gear Solid3 but in a realastic way i call it CQCG although it may already exist.

I think Sharp Phil has copywritten this one hasn't he. Being sued by Scott and Sharp Phil is not good!

Decado
29th February 2008, 11:06 PM
Why do you want to know? Are you comming over?

:p

Coming over? Over what? Or should I not ask?

Decado
29th February 2008, 11:10 PM
I got a friend who is the head dude up in a town and a personal friend of my mom's and that if i wanna be a cop he'll get me in without takeing the hearing test thing as long as i pass everything else with flying colors.

I presume they don't have an IQ test then?

Unicorn Horn
29th February 2008, 11:32 PM
I think Sharp Phil has copywritten this one hasn't he. Being sued by Scott and Sharp Phil is not good!

He says that it may already exist so he isn't takeing full claim to it. I know i wouldn't want to get sued from them either.


I presume they don't have an IQ test then?

Now this isn't just to you and I'm not attacking either but, why do ya'll attack Krav Maga Style so much, he seems very respecful in my opinion from what I've read from him even though most of it seems very far fetched he sticks by what he says through and through. And it seems like its more like the "Head dude" person he's talkin about is willing to pull some stings because he may have a very deep reason why he was trying to join the military and then police force and the dude felt that from him. I don't know if Krave maga is a he or a she but by the way he/she speaks sounds like a dude.

ScottUK
29th February 2008, 11:43 PM
He says that it may already exist so he isn't takeing full claim to it. I know i wouldn't want to get sued from them either.Legal threats are the least of his worries!


Now this isn't just to you and I'm not attacking either but, why do ya'll attack Krav Maga Style so much, he seems very respecful in my opinion from what I've read from him even though most of it seems very far fetched he sticks by what he says through and through. And it seems like its more like the "Head dude" person he's talkin about is willing to pull some stings because he may have a very deep reason why he was trying to join the military and then police force and the dude felt that from him. I don't know if Krave maga is a he or a she but by the way he/she speaks sounds like a dude.Before we ask for an IP check, are you KMS/have you met KMS?

Unicorn Horn
29th February 2008, 11:51 PM
Legal threats are the least of his worries!

Before we ask for an IP check, are you KMS/have you met KMS?

I think I know him. I think his brother works with me on the night shift as he says all he talks about is becomeing a "police officer" and wanting to learn the krav maga thing. If its him, he's a nice guy but with reality issues.

ScottUK
1st March 2008, 12:00 AM
I think I know him. I think his brother works with me on the night shift as he says all he talks about is becomeing a "police officer" and wanting to learn the krav maga thing. If its him, he's a nice guy but with reality issues.Question: Did he invite you or did you just happen to find KW at the same time?

I call BS. IP check please.

Decado
1st March 2008, 12:00 AM
He says that it may already exist so he isn't takeing full claim to it. I know i wouldn't want to get sued from them either.

Now this isn't just to you and I'm not attacking either but, why do ya'll attack Krav Maga Style so much, he seems very respecful in my opinion from what I've read from him even though most of it seems very far fetched he sticks by what he says through and through. And it seems like its more like the "Head dude" person he's talkin about is willing to pull some stings because he may have a very deep reason why he was trying to join the military and then police force and the dude felt that from him. I don't know if Krave maga is a he or a she but by the way he/she speaks sounds like a dude.

Far fetched is the right phrase here. He seems to live in a bit of a fantasy land. Do you really want someone like that toting a gun in public? Last time we had someone like that here he shot up a place called Hungerford and killed several people.

Just because someone sticks by what they say no matter what is not a good indication of maturity or respectfulness.

But you are right - he sounds like a dude.

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 12:03 AM
Question: Did he invite you or did you just happen to find KW at the same time?

I call BS. IP check please.

I just joined early this morning while looking up styles of kendo and seeing what benifits they would have if i was to learn it. And also what is IP?

Decado
1st March 2008, 12:06 AM
I just joined early this morning while looking up styles of kendo and seeing what benifits they would have if i was to learn it. And also what is IP?

Intelligence Potential.
Incredible Poncification
I Pense (therefore I am)
Indelible Prose

ScottUK
1st March 2008, 12:12 AM
I just joined early this morning while looking up styles of kendo and seeing what benifits they would have if i was to learn it. And also what is IP?You joined a WORLDWIDE forum this morning and bumped into a thread involving someone who works with your bro in your town? I can't call BS loud enough. Can someone help?

Anyone remember Haiyomi, the 7-yr old child-genius who appeared to defend her backyard budoka dad?

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 12:22 AM
You joined a WORLDWIDE forum this morning and bumped into a thread involving someone who works with your bro in your town? I can't call BS loud enough. Can someone help?

Anyone remember Haiyomi, the 7-yr old child-genius who appeared to defend her backyard budoka dad?

I live in terrell in a shitty apartment thats not worth the rent not wills point sorry dude. I came and I clicked "New Posts" thats right up there on the top of the screen and i looked at "Greatest sword sty..." and then i read all of the posts took awhile but i did also i thought it was about what is the greatest sword style not stupid shit like this. Correct me if im wrong

pgsmith
1st March 2008, 12:25 AM
I don't know if Krave maga is a he or a she but by the way he/she speaks sounds like a dude.
I have to say that KSM speaks/sounds more like a little kid or a moron with fantasy issues. I still think it's the same person as our ninja clan leader wannabe Bear.

P.S. It's about an hours drive to the nearest kendo dojo from Terrel

... but i did also i thought it was about what is the greatest sword style not stupid shit like this.
"The Greatest Sword Style" IS stupid, in and of itself. It's an idiotic topic only seriously discussed by kids and anime junkies.

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 12:26 AM
I live in terrell in a shitty apartment thats not worth the rent not wills point sorry dude. I came and I clicked "New Posts" thats right up there on the top of the screen and i looked at "Greatest sword sty..." and then i read all of the posts took awhile but i did also i thought it was about what is the greatest sword style not stupid shit like this. Correct me if im wrong

I would name the apartment as well but they don't know about my babies. So i gotta be safe on that one

ScottUK
1st March 2008, 12:26 AM
Correct me if im wrong


You joined a WORLDWIDE forum this morning and bumped into a thread involving someone who works with your bro in your town?No, why don't you correct me if I'M wrong? Put yourself in our position - how does this look to you?

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 12:28 AM
I have to say that KSM speaks/sounds more like a little kid or a moron with fantasy issues. I still think it's the same person as our ninja clan leader wannabe Bear.

P.S. It's about an hours drive to the nearest kendo dojo from Terrel

Thanks dude. I'll look them up and see what might be the best one. Where do you go too see how close one is

Decado
1st March 2008, 12:29 AM
No, why don't you correct me if I'M wrong? Put yourself in our position - how does this look to you?

Grammar styles are very similar!

pgsmith
1st March 2008, 12:34 AM
I'll look them up and see what might be the best one.
It's not a matter of best, it's a matter of ONLY one. http://www.dfwkik.org/2004/index.html

So, when are you going to show up?

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 12:35 AM
No, why don't you correct me if I'M wrong? Put yourself in our position - how does this look to you?

Yeah I understand what you mean now it does look like im an accomplice of his. But if it is who i think it is his brother has some nice ass tattoos.

ScottUK
1st March 2008, 12:41 AM
It does look that way indeed.

Ass tattoos? Is this why you are the Unicorn Horn?

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 12:41 AM
Yeah I understand what you mean now it does look like im an accomplice of his. But if it is who i think it is his brother has some nice ass tattoos.

And one more thing i got a mutha fucking life. sounds like he doesn't. I don't have time for the shit he does maken up styles and shit. I'm only off three days week and i take that time for me and me girl and also going to my mema for some free grub

Decado
1st March 2008, 12:45 AM
Grammar styles are very similar!

I take that back! Unicorn's style is better.

ne0r
1st March 2008, 12:57 AM
You know, it is quite strange if someone joins just the same day as the other member, just by coincidence lives in the same city, and even knows his brother who has some nice ass tattoos (oO???).

Perhaps you should drop the idea of the second identity.

But that's not the point, I can't find it right now, but the other members should be able to find a dojo near you quite soon.

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 01:04 AM
Yeah I understand what you mean now it does look like im an accomplice of his. But if it is who i think it is his brother has some nice ass tattoos.

Didn't mean by his ass ass i meant they were awsome, And yes i do have a uni tatt on my right arm its covered in armour and all scared up and shit only halfway done though got it done at Fine Line tattoos this dude has 28 rewards for what he does i counted an entire wall of nothing but trophies and wall deals. could show pics but not very handy with camera it says do this this and this why dosen't it say put point a to point b it would be so much easier

Kenzan
1st March 2008, 01:09 AM
Ass tattoos? Is this why you are the Unicorn Horn?

Awesome. (http://www.theslicery.com/images/awesome.jpg)
:D:D:D:D

Paikea
1st March 2008, 01:10 AM
And one more thing i got a mutha fucking life. sounds like he doesn't. I don't have time for the shit he does maken up styles and shit. I'm only off three days week and i take that time for me and me girl and also going to my mema for some free grubIs your constant use of profanity here really necessary?

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 01:12 AM
Is your constant use of profanity here really necessary?

Sorry about that dude i will try to keep it down and use freak and shoot from now on alright. Im not joking as it does sound that way

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 01:18 AM
Alright off of that subject now for real what benifets could i get mentally from kendo iaodo and all those other japanese fighting styles

Paikea
1st March 2008, 01:21 AM
Alright off of that subject now for real what benifets could i get mentally from kendo iaodo and all those other japanese fighting stylesYou would learn to listen and observe, and you would swear less. It's not really about the fighting of other people, it's about cleaning up and refining yourself.

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 01:26 AM
You would learn to listen and observe, and you would swear less. It's not really about the fighting of other people, it's about cleaning up and refining yourself.

i normally don't swear really like i said normally, and i don't want to fight other people i do enough of that where i live just so someone won't steal my car or rob my but as they have tried many times. i want to learn something that will make me mentally stronger and define who i am more

Paikea
1st March 2008, 01:32 AM
Well, kendo and/or Iai will help with that if you really want to improve yourself. I have to say, that from reading your posts (and let's come clean, that other guy is you, right?) you seem to want other people to think you're some kind of bad-ass. That won't work for kendo, you have to get past it. If you want to work hard (I suspect much harder than you're used to) and actually clam up and listen to what your instructors are telling you then kendo will help immeasurably.

If what you want is to impress friends with sword tricks, or to learn to beat people down with a bokken then you need to find something else.

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 01:45 AM
Well, kendo and/or Iai will help with that if you really want to improve yourself. I have to say, that from reading your posts (and let's come clean, that other guy is you, right?) you seem to want other people to think you're some kind of bad-ass. That won't work for kendo, you have to get past it. If you want to work hard (I suspect much harder than you're used to) and actually clam up and listen to what your instructors are telling you then kendo will help immeasurably.

If what you want is to impress friends with sword tricks, or to learn to beat people down with a bokken then you need to find something else.

Hey i am a former personal trainer and used to work up at a gym about a mile away and i workout almost every day for two and a half to three hours before work. Yes i am strong phsically and got two months left on my lease paying $739 a month but i have to think about my girl when she comes to visit i have to walk her in just to make sure she is safe because she is still in school and only 17. I have to be a badass in order to survive where im at right now in two months im moving to forney or mesquite after my lease is up to be closer to her and my mema then i can be a normal person and live a nice life without all that which is why i was looking for some kendo stuff

Paikea
1st March 2008, 01:52 AM
It starts here http://www.dfwkik.org/2004/index.html.

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 01:55 AM
It starts here http://www.dfwkik.org/2004/index.html.

Thanks dude

samurai80
1st March 2008, 01:58 AM
I can see how everyone thinks these two guys are the same person, but I'm going to disagree. Unless they end up being the same person, then I agreed the entire time. Speaking of less than clever attempts at having a second user profile, no one remembers Adison, and his sister that both wanted COLD STEEL? (reader's note: COLD STEEL must always be capitalized, as it insinuates that it is being said in the dramatic, and classic movie announcer's voice. THIS SUMMER...THE PARKING LOT JUST GOT A LITTLE BIT HOTTER...WARM STEEL!!!)

Paikea
1st March 2008, 02:02 AM
Thanks dudeNo problem, but you need to actually get off your butt and go. Listen to what they tell you, be honest with yourself, them and everybody else and you'll be on your way.

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 02:03 AM
I just looked it up and i got to say i am impressed if all kendo iai learners are like that i will become a better person thanks for that paikea. And one question how do you stand up like that from that position

Paikea
1st March 2008, 02:08 AM
More slowly than I should. Imagine you have a string tied to the top of your head, and you're pulled up by it. Keep your back straight and come up vertically. They'll show you how to do all of this, properly.

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 02:12 AM
I could only get an inch off the ground and it hurts didn't think it would but ow. I'm responding to all post so i can get an avatar so i might be bugging ya'll awile

absenteekendoka
1st March 2008, 02:18 AM
Is your constant use of profanity here really necessary?

Ah yes, profanity. The crutch for all illiterate motherf%$#@*ers. :)

corwyn
1st March 2008, 02:20 AM
Imagine you have a string tied to the top of your head, and you're pulled up by it.

See, that's what I thought...but everybody keeps telling me that I'm supposed to do it with a rope tied around my neck... :confused:


;)

absenteekendoka
1st March 2008, 02:20 AM
Essence of budo........Its an internal battle, your constantly striving to be better, to understand yourself and your art. The best fight to win is simply to choose not to ifght. Better yet to understand why not to.

absenteekendoka
1st March 2008, 02:21 AM
.....apparently I am one of those illiterate mo fo's :)

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 02:23 AM
What in the world is a bokuto and shinai they sound weird

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 02:26 AM
Essence of budo........Its an internal battle, your constantly striving to be better, to understand yourself and your art. The best fight to win is simply to choose not to ifght. Better yet to understand why not to.

I don't think fighting really solves anything honestly even though i do it. I wish to live in New Zealand away from human nature or shall i say brutality and just sit back enjoy life to the fullest with me and my girl. if it wasn't only a dream cost way too much for a plane ticket

corwyn
1st March 2008, 02:36 AM
What in the world is a bokuto and shinai they sound weird

A bokuto (or bokken) is a solid piece of wood shaped like a sword, used for training.

A shinai is another training sword made of bamboo slats tied together with leather (I think). The kendoka can probably describe it better.

Or take a look on a website like ebogu.com and check out the weapons section to see what they look like.

ShinKenshi
1st March 2008, 02:37 AM
I don't think fighting really solves anything honestly even though i do it. I wish to live in New Zealand away from human nature or shall i say brutality and just sit back enjoy life to the fullest with me and my girl. if it wasn't only a dream cost way too much for a plane ticketNot just the plane ticket. You need something to the tune of at least $250,000 in assets and a job in New Zealand before you can move there. Also, from what I hear, people are a bit testy when it comes to building a house in the middle of the landscape there.

Unicorn Horn
1st March 2008, 02:46 AM
Not just the plane ticket. You need something to the tune of at least $250,000 in assets and a job in New Zealand before you can move there. Also, from what I hear, people are a bit testy when it comes to building a house in the middle of the landscape there.

I'm screwed for life.

corwyn
1st March 2008, 02:59 AM
I'm screwed for life.

The rest of us manage to survive. You can, too. :)

absenteekendoka
1st March 2008, 03:03 AM
I'm screwed for life.

Possibly longer. :)

tattooedasshole
1st March 2008, 03:37 AM
I have to be a badass in order to survive where im at right now in two months im moving to forney or mesquite after my lease is up to be closer to her and my mema then i can be a normal person and live a nice life without all that which is why i was looking for some kendo stuff
What a load of crap. I've lived in some pretty shitty places (12months-8 murders where i had my last appartment near Montreal), and have never had to "be a badass". This sounds like the ratings of a 12 year old. "See, i have to be a bad man, I live in a bad place." Grow up.

sirius1906
1st March 2008, 04:40 AM
Unicorn Horn:

Get off the keyboard, go to a dojo and learn. Come back in a couple of months and we'll take you more seriously.

Jiyoui
1st March 2008, 04:49 AM
Maybe this should be moved into the flame section, too many people are getting free posts out of this XD

sirius1906
1st March 2008, 04:55 AM
second that. this thread has nothing to do with history.

absenteekendoka
1st March 2008, 05:48 AM
It is however a thread that could almost be deemed 'trolltastic' :)

zveki
1st March 2008, 06:16 AM
Yeah, life can be hard for beginners :dead:


Maybe this should be moved into the flame section...

...or maybe trash can?

ScottUK
1st March 2008, 08:36 AM
I personally think that amongst the flames and the horror, there are some awesome lessons for self-teachers and samurai wannabees in this thread...

Jiyoui
1st March 2008, 08:49 AM
I personally think that amongst the flames and the horror, there are some awesome lessons for self-teachers and samurai wannabees in this thread...

what? Like... don't do it? :smoker:

Kendoka_Han
1st March 2008, 04:46 PM
:eek:WAITTTTTT did you just talk about my momma.:confused2

LOL? is this a joke? why is this thread brought up again? LOL!?!?!!!!!?

Decado
1st March 2008, 05:58 PM
LOL? is this a joke? why is this thread brought up again? LOL!?!?!!!!!?

Not a joke at all! It's a thought provoking thread, full of subtle nuances with the aim of helping those less privileged than ourselves, putting them back on to the path of righteousness i.e. get them to a dojo!

Or taking the piss out of Samurai wannabees.

Not quite sure which but it was entertaining on a boring day.

absenteekendoka
1st March 2008, 10:26 PM
I love the smell of troll in morning. :)

Kendoka_Han
2nd March 2008, 04:36 PM
Not a joke at all! It's a thought provoking thread, full of subtle nuances with the aim of helping those less privileged than ourselves, putting them back on to the path of righteousness i.e. get them to a dojo!

Or taking the piss out of Samurai wannabees.

Not quite sure which but it was entertaining on a boring day.

Hahah, well then, it doesnt hurt to just let loose and go crazy with the wannabes...:)


I love the smell of troll in morning. :)

I love the smell of my garage in the morning.......:emb:

ScottUK
2nd March 2008, 04:48 PM
Hahah, well then, it doesnt hurt to just let loose and go crazy with the wannabes...:)Oh the irony... :D;)

Kendoka_Han
2nd March 2008, 05:37 PM
Oh the irony... :D;)

.................;)

Big One
4th March 2008, 01:14 AM
Oh the irony... :D;)

Ah, come on. Leave him alone, he see the light now. On the other hand, he still love his pure Jesus who is different than the rest of Christian God. :laugh:

It just reminds me, I miss listening to Muslim gospel music though

JoDuncan
4th March 2008, 02:03 AM
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ghostdancer
4th March 2008, 02:05 AM
Ah, come on. Leave him alone, he see the light now. On the other hand, he still love his pure Jesus who is different than the rest of Christian God. :laugh:

It just reminds me, I miss listening to Muslim gospel music though


but unfortunately its not the same light as everybody else !

Kenzan
4th March 2008, 05:28 AM
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:laugh:

absenteekendoka
4th March 2008, 05:42 AM
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Ok, I love everybody (platonically;) ) but this really made me chuckle. never take yourself to seriously..... :)

corwyn
4th March 2008, 06:26 AM
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:laugh:

Very nice :D

Kendoka_Han
4th March 2008, 07:48 AM
::::::::::: (http://matthewgruman.com/?p=204)

:laugh:

ok, i LOL'd

dondongo
26th December 2009, 03:57 PM
The greatest sword style huh? I think that we will never be able to distinguish the difference between personal skill and the sword style's strength alone. The further evolution of styles, and advancement of mechanical phenomena of human motion and control will also reach a limit of what actions can be refined to "perfection." So, in response to your question of what is the best style, I think that the best question is "What do I wish to do with this tool?" Not to limit styles to tools (they are their own definition) but the desired result should be the relative point of focus. If you wish to defeat someone else with a certain style, become more skilled in that style. If you wish to defeat someone and you don't have a set style, then choose the style that maximizes it's strengths to the opponents weaknesses, and minimize the ratio of it's weaknesses to the opponents style's strengths. If you wish to use a set style to make you better (using the style to make yourself better) then you need to find the style that improves what you want improved, or challenges in the way you wish to be challenged. It's usually all about relativity and balance. A wonderful question, and one that has many different answers. I hope I helped.

ScottUK
26th December 2009, 05:57 PM
I disagree. Fancy a fight to find out? I will whup your ass so hard your mom feels it. Merry christmas.