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Bingstock
29th August 2005, 10:50 PM
Hey could someone explain acceptable ways of securing the men & do to the body and head respectfully. I dont know how to tie them and i dont know what pieces of cloth go under what. I am also curiouse what the proper way to wear the Gi is. any help would be great or a finger point in the right direction. thanks guys.

ratdeau
29th August 2005, 11:05 PM
The best way is to ask your sensei.

Neil Gendzwill
29th August 2005, 11:07 PM
Duct-tape. Lots and lots of duct-tape. Make sure to get the blue kind, so it matches.

Bingstock
29th August 2005, 11:13 PM
Duct-tape. Lots and lots of duct-tape. Make sure to get the blue kind, so it matches.
haha ass. thanks :)

Bingstock
29th August 2005, 11:15 PM
I was hoping for some websites. or books. Our club starts the end of september and i wanted to learn as much of the little stuff before hand as possible.

ShinKenshi
29th August 2005, 11:17 PM
I'm pretty sure there have been numerous posts in the past regarding this subject and you could probably ask your sensei and sempai but I'll answer anyway.

You wear your gi with the left flap over the right flap. The right flap is secured by a couple of small himo on the inside (tie it like your shoe laces) and then the left flap is secured by another coupld of himo higher up on your chest. Then you put on your hakama. Since you didn't ask about putting on the hakama I won't go into it.

As far as wearing bogu, you put everything on when in seiza and for the men, there are a couple ways of wearing it. The first is the more typical, at least as far as I've seen, is where the himo are secured on either the 4th or 5th rung of the mengane, crossed behind the head, brought under the top part of the central bar of the mengane (don't know the proper term), and pulled back down the sides of the head and tied. The second method is the kansai method where the himo are secured on the top rung first. As far as how this is properly tied I don't know. Tieing the himo for the do and tare is pretty universal. The tare comes on first and you cross the right himo over the left behind you, bring them around to the front, lift up the central flap (the one with the nafuda/zekken), tie the himo in a bow, and then pull the central flap back down after tucking in the loose himo underneath the other flaps and out of sight. For the do, set it on your lap and pull it against you, bring the top right long himo over your left shoulder and (here's how I've been doing it so other's might have a slightly different way) make a loop and push it through the top left loop on the mune, stick your thumb through the himo loop, wrap the himo a couple times around it between your thumb and the mune loop, and tuck it back into the loop such that forms another loop. Repeat this for the other long himo. The two short ones you can just tie behind you with a bow knot but not very tightly.

This might be a little confusing so it really is best to get someone to show you how to do it. There's probably a few places online where they've published a pdf with diagrams to show you. Hope this helps.

KOMA
29th August 2005, 11:18 PM
use staples

ShinKenshi
29th August 2005, 11:23 PM
I was hoping for some websites. or books. Our club starts the end of september and i wanted to learn as much of the little stuff before hand as possible. Just out of curiosity, since you're asking about putting on bogu and learning as much as you can before your club starts, how long have you been practicing kendo? It doesn't say on your profile. Again, just curious. One good book that I recommend to everyone is The Definitive Guide to Kendo by Ozawa. Very detailed and great for giving you an idea of what to do.

Honorable Kohai
30th August 2005, 12:01 AM
Here's a link to a good kendo equipment manual (http://www.kckendo.com/resources_manual.htm) by Yasuji Ishiwata of Fukuda Budogu (www6.big.or.jp/~budogu/) (Translated by Francis Bond). It's quite comprehensive, and features step by step illustrations on how to maintain each piece of your equipment.

It's in .pdf format, so be sure you have a recent copy of Adobe Acrobat.

This manual is provided for personal use only, do not attempt to reproduce or sell it.

I hope this helps you.

Bingstock
30th August 2005, 12:24 AM
Just out of curiosity, since you're asking about putting on bogu and learning as much as you can before your club starts, how long have you been practicing kendo? It doesn't say on your profile. Again, just curious. One good book that I recommend to everyone is The Definitive Guide to Kendo by Ozawa. Very detailed and great for giving you an idea of what to do.
0 days 0 hrs 0 min 0 sec to be precise.

Bingstock
30th August 2005, 12:25 AM
Here's a link to a good kendo equipment manual (http://www.kckendo.com/resources_manual.htm) by Yasuji Ishiwata of Fukuda Budogu (http://www6.big.or.jp/~budogu/) (Translated by Francis Bond). It's quite comprehensive, and features step by step illustrations on how to maintain each piece of your equipment.

It's in .pdf format, so be sure you have a recent copy of Adobe Acrobat.

This manual is provided for personal use only, do not attempt to reproduce or sell it.

I hope this helps you.
thank you very much this is awesome. sorry for not digging back though old posts. I guess that would have been the prudent thing to do. but again thank you.

LNGUYEN
30th August 2005, 12:36 AM
I find the best way is using super glue. You put some on your head and your belly, count 1, 2, 3 and put the Men on belly and Do on the Head. Hold them there for 6 hours then voila, it stays. The tricky part is finding the way to put the Men on the belly so that the belly button is right at the center of the top of the Men. I was told that, first you have to scratch it until it turns red and swelling so you can easily center it. During the 6 hours hold, don't pick your nose or scratch your butt, it will create too much shaking, no good. However, I am not sure it is correct so don't sue me.

Another the way I forgot, but if you use the search engine, you will find it

ShinKenshi
30th August 2005, 12:42 AM
0 days 0 hrs 0 min 0 sec to be precise. Ok. In that case, you shouldn't be worrying yourself over bogu just yet, although I do applaude your efforts to learn as much as you can before your first practice. Best thing you can do right now is to not try to teach yourself anything (as I'm sure you've gathered by reading various posts in the form). I guess if you really want to show you're all set and ready to learn is to show up to the first practice with a shinai or something to that effect. Any chance you could contact your dojo's sensei before practice and see what's expected of a newbie? Best of luck to you! College kendo clubs rock!!!:D