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Utotin
02-09-2005, 02:59 AM
I have been listening to the news regarding New Orleans and I have been thinking to my self that this place sounds more like Haiti or Somalia than it does the USA. I can maybe understand pillaging a store to get food and water, but these freaking hood rats are stealing TV's and other electronics! Joke is on them though because they will not be able to plug any of that stuff in for a few months.

On top of that they are shooting at rescuers. Hospitals are being evacuated because they are being threatened by gangs who want their supplies and relief trucks full of food & medicine are being highjacked. Man, thats freaking ghetto. Why doesn't the governor of LA declare martial law and issue the national guard orders to shoot lawbreakers.

Wes Nazo
02-09-2005, 03:09 AM
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kendonewbie
02-09-2005, 03:57 AM
I can understand (to an extent) why people would be looting grocery stores or drug stores for food/water/medicine. But electronics? Geez. I read that they're stealing guns too..great.
Why doesn't the governor of LA declare martial law and issue the national guard orders to shoot lawbreakers.
Isn't most of the national guard in Iraq right now? I guess diverting some troops to escort resue teams would be a good idea, but putting the city under martial law would take a large number of troops. I doubt that bush would be willing to divert that many troops from his precious war.

Andou
02-09-2005, 04:21 AM
Sigh...some people will do all that's in their power to help those in need. Then...there are some of those who will exploit that and the area that the need is centered in. It reminds me of the news I heard of people picking up orphaned children from the tsunami and forcing them into prostition...was that true?

rainmaker
02-09-2005, 04:52 AM
I saw this photo where these bast$#$ds (bast@#$ds) stealing NIKE shoes... Well, at least I know now where I can go to shop for real cheap HD TV and electornic goods...

kendonewbie
02-09-2005, 04:52 AM
...i heard of people picking up orphaned children from the tsunami and forcing them into prostition...was the true?
I wouldn't be surpirsed. I know in some of the larger cities in india, child protitution is big business. Sometimes, people go to villages and offer to buy children....the whole thing disgusts me to no end. There are some people who will use things like the hurricane or the tsunami for their own selfish needs....disgusts me.

drizzt
02-09-2005, 07:05 AM
punks....all of them are dirt little punks.

I hat to tell these littl bas***** something....THe national guard is there now, and this had better stop. Those boys are well armed and dont play games.

SkippyDaStudent
02-09-2005, 07:09 AM
I'm with drizzt on this one.

Bunch of savages... *shakes head in shame*

kendonewbie
02-09-2005, 08:27 AM
mm hm. Ditto.

Rookie M
02-09-2005, 10:34 AM
Welcome to the human condition, The same thing that makes people great entreponeurs is the same thing that makes armed looters steal from thirsty people. It is disrespectful in the highest degree but this is why government has been the highest and best armed people forever. I would like that all the folks without water and shelter turn the stolen tv's into albatross for every dumb looter that dont have the common curtrousy to help people out before helping themselves. It's a shame but people without honour are around us all and we must work to maintain our own selves so that we can teach our children.

KhawMengLee
02-09-2005, 11:15 AM
Yes...I remember they caught one of the Indian Govt. Officials hoarding 15,000 litres of mineral water donated for the Indian Tsunami victims for his bath and whatnot. Just like they have interviewed looters in New Oleans who said they stayed behind because of the 'easy pickings' after the storm.

They SHOULD shoot these people BUT Political Correctness forbids it.

Hai_hai
02-09-2005, 11:56 AM
It seems to be pointless to steal a television when you can't plug it into anything, you can't prevent someone from stealing it from you, and although stealing is wrong, you are better off spending your energy stealing food and water.
Once the National Guard starts pegging off the idiots, the sick can get airlifted out of there and people can get bused out of town. What a complete waste of a day.

kendonewbie
02-09-2005, 12:01 PM
They SHOULD shoot these people BUT Political Correctness forbids it.
Sigh...what a shame.

Maro
02-09-2005, 12:50 PM
A bit quick to jump to conclusions isn't it?

A couple of shots of people with clothes etc will not necessarily mean they are all looting for gain.

What if those Nikes were the only shoes in the store. Was it a Nike store? If you were cold and shoeless I don't thnk you be thinking about fashion.

C'mon people.

Kiki
02-09-2005, 01:16 PM
Big disasters always bring out the best and the worst of Humanity. The poorest, youngest and weakest suffer the most. Thank goodness for all the people who are doing their best to help.

Last year New Orleans escaped a big hurricane and many experts took the opportunity to further warn the local Government about a need to seriously prepare. They knew the Superdome roof would be blown off and that 1000s would be unable to evacuate because they don't have cars, etc. (Not counting the ones who chose to stay - yikes). Was anything done? Sadly, the budget for shoring up the levies and canals was drastically cut due to the War. Maybe they would not have broken...

My heart breaks for all the suffering. I feel lucky to take a shower and enjoy a good meal any time I want. We should all have our own emergency plan and supplies. Living in Earthquake Land it's a must. I have stuff at work, home and car.

That's my rant.

"Deep in the Snow Mountains lives a bird called Kankucho which,
tortured by the numbing cold, cries that it will build a nest in the morning. Yet, when the day breaks, it sleeps away the hours in the warm light of the morning sun without building its nest. So it continues to cry vainly throughout its life. The same is true of people."
Letter to Niike Gosho

drizzt
02-09-2005, 01:49 PM
A bit quick to jump to conclusions isn't it?

A couple of shots of people with clothes etc will not necessarily mean they are all looting for gain.

What if those Nikes were the only shoes in the store. Was it a Nike store? If you were cold and shoeless I don't thnk you be thinking about fashion.

C'mon people.

shoes arent my issue....its the HDtv's etc there steeling

Gregory
02-09-2005, 02:09 PM
I have been listening to the news regarding New Orleans and I have been thinking to my self that this place sounds more like Haiti or Somalia than it does the USA. I can maybe understand pillaging a store to get food and water, but these freaking hood rats are stealing TV's and other electronics! Joke is on them though because they will not be able to plug any of that stuff in for a few months.

On top of that they are shooting at rescuers. Hospitals are being evacuated because they are being threatened by gangs who want their supplies and relief trucks full of food & medicine are being highjacked. Man, thats freaking ghetto. Why doesn't the governor of LA declare martial law and issue the national guard orders to shoot lawbreakers.


Did you see the videos of the looters? One of them was naked and stealing clothes, he was arrested. Another few were stealing food and diaipers for their babies, they were arrested. However, there were a few shots of guys running off with playstation 2s and stuff.

Maro
02-09-2005, 03:43 PM
A few shots.

Pretty much if it's food/clothes etc then why the hell not. They need them.

It's a mess but finger pointing will only get worse from here.

The great I AM
02-09-2005, 05:37 PM
A few shots.

Pretty much if it's food/clothes etc then why the hell not. They need them.

It's a mess but finger pointing will only get worse from here.

Can we finger point at the people stealing electrical goods like tv's stereo's and ps2's? Or do they need them as well?

And I guess that we also shouldn't finger point at the ridiculousness of people shooting at rescue craft trying to take the sick and injured to hospitals and safe areas either, because that would be judgemental.

My bad.

Kumdo-Star
02-09-2005, 05:43 PM
I have been listening to the news regarding New Orleans and I have been thinking to my self that this place sounds more like Haiti or Somalia than it does the USA. I can maybe understand pillaging a store to get food and water, but these freaking hood rats are stealing TV's and other electronics! Joke is on them though because they will not be able to plug any of that stuff in for a few months.

On top of that they are shooting at rescuers. Hospitals are being evacuated because they are being threatened by gangs who want their supplies and relief trucks full of food & medicine are being highjacked. Man, thats freaking ghetto. Why doesn't the governor of LA declare martial law and issue the national guard orders to shoot lawbreakers.
i hate the looters in new orleans they go and steal everything they can like how in the hel are they supposed to use it anyway no electric. ( i got a TV):rolleyes: and then when our troops got to rescue every one they go and shoot at they i mean for crien out loud thier there to help them stupid dumbasses... i feel so bad for the people that live there though because thier entier city is GONE!! leveled and nothing to go home to. to let ya'll know i've already started a fund raiser to help them so far i got $ 334.78 in just one day! i'll send the money to the red cross in 2 days. it's the least i can do ya know!

Kapplow
04-09-2005, 12:20 AM
there was a fund raiser last night on tv that had a bunch of celebrities raising money for the suffering ppl of new orleans.

Kanye West came on, and instead of reading his script he goes on a rant about how bush doesn't like blacks and it's all his fault. I believe this is BS because immediate responsability falls on the state govornor and the city mayor.

If you are a celebrity and want to raise money for these poor ppl, dont critize bush. he mobilized the our fighting military all the way from Iraq and all over the country to help them, which is far more help than that punk kanye west provided...

Kapplow
04-09-2005, 12:24 AM
oh just another thought...


If kanye west wants to raise money, he should donate all that bling on his person.

kendonewbie
04-09-2005, 01:07 AM
oh just another thought...


If kanye west wants to raise money, he should donate all that bling on his person.
Agreed. Celebrities make...what..millions of $ for...what, singing? Playing basketball? C'mon, really. If your going to make millions of $, spend it on something useful, like donating it to relief funds. Not on your 3rd beverly hills mansion, or your 12th $1.5 million car, etc.

Kapplow
04-09-2005, 01:22 AM
Agreed. Celebrities make...what..millions of $ for...what, singing? Playing basketball? C'mon, really. If your going to make millions of $, spend it on something useful, like donating it to relief funds. Not on your 3rd beverly hills mansion, or your 12th $1.5 million car, etc.

look at his jewelry, its crazy! and his diamonds song confirms that he himself is a racist

kendonewbie
04-09-2005, 02:03 AM
Never seen his jewerly, or heard is diamonds song...i refuse to watch/listen to that ****. Is his jewelry really that expensive? Like "that ring probably costs as much as a small house" kind of expensive?

Gregory
04-09-2005, 02:25 AM
If they donated their money, how would they pay settlements?


And another note, when this was happening in florida a while back, they had the national guard there about 3 days BEFORE it happened, they had extra food and water there before it happened.

Im not saying Bush hates blacks, thats retarded. But why would he care about florida more?


;)

kendonewbie
04-09-2005, 02:55 AM
If they donated their money, how would they pay settlements?
Ha ha...very true. As to why should bush care more about Flordia...well, look at the Bush vs. Gore election. Also...isn't the governor of Flordia a relative to Bush? (i'm probably wrong..)

Gregory
04-09-2005, 03:37 AM
The govn of florida = Bush's brother.

Kapplow
04-09-2005, 04:02 AM
actually it has nothing to do with that. I lived in FL all my life and we're pros when it comes to handling hurricanes. Also this is a flood promblem, not a hurricane promblem in new orleans. Another reason FL is better equiped to handle natural disasters is our gov. is a republician in which we allocate funds for situations like this.


On the other hand, new orleans is democratic where they allocate all their money to civil programs. What I'm getting at is one of the reasons for all of this misery is that new orleans simply couldn't afford to maintain there own levys.
and let us not forget that the gov of louisianna issued a MANDATORY evacuation for all residents of new orleans. those who chose to ignore that order must take responsability for their own actions.

Theodore
04-09-2005, 02:07 PM
Cops looting a Wal-Mart. Caught on video. (http://www.zippyvideos.com/8911023771013466/countdown?looting_in_walmart)

Berugijin
04-09-2005, 07:41 PM
I looted a big ass plasma TV from my neighbour, he couldn't stop me since he was too busy drowning! I'm not a bad person though, if I had a third arm I would've rescued him.

Hisham
05-09-2005, 01:50 AM
Cops looting a Wal-Mart. Caught on video. (http://www.zippyvideos.com/8911023771013466/countdown?looting_in_walmart)

I guess for some, "to protect and to serve" means "self service while nobody's looking", well almost nobody since they got caught on camera. Despicable, BTW i wonder how much time they're gonna do for that?

DarQik
05-09-2005, 01:57 AM
I have been listening to the news regarding New Orleans and I have been thinking to my self that this place sounds more like Haiti or Somalia than it does the USA. I can maybe understand pillaging a store to get food and water, but these freaking hood rats are stealing TV's and other electronics!Ah, we fail to remember history... This is hardly the first time people in the US have acted poorly. Think back to the power outage looters of recent history. Then there's the LA riots with the looting and such without any disaster to trigger it. Then we had the Detroit riots years ago (and the nuts who wanted to stage a parade and holiday to commemorate it recently).

There are plenty of people with no respect for others-people who would steal anything from anyone at any moment. Heck, just yesterday some nut job tried to smash open our rental car in a busy parking lot to steal my wife's cute little lap dog while she was in the store. If you live in an area full of decent people, great. Not all of us do, I've seen people's bags ripped off at college gym where we do kendo when we turned our backs. Personally, I've been robbed several times over the years.

I've seen so many rotten people that I really don't buy into the every person is naturally good thing---people are like any other animal, naturally selfish. Children display a wide range of selfish behaviours growing up, that we parents help change, but let me try a more, uh, challenging comparison. We had to train our dog as a young pup not to defend his food and water bowl like a wild animal, that was his natural instinct. He learned that he'll have his needs met and be cared for, but he cannot act aggressively towards people. As a result of learning to behave socially, he can be part of the family. Unfortunately, not all people learn appropriate social behaviours. Some of them are taught from a very young age to steal, fight and take the things they want. Some are even taught that you should not respect people of certain races or religions. My theory is that these kinds of ingrained social behaviours are where a lot of problems come from.


Given the conditions after the storm, I can understand the grocery store looting as a survival thing more than a wanton robbery issue. I would also expect that the same people, wouldn't mind being picked up by the police, taken to a nice safe place, and given meals. If I was stuck there, I'd probably consider looting some food for the family too. If arrested, I'd ask them to pick up the family and get us the heck out of there--bill me for the window and the food, but get us somewhere safe.

Situations like this also throw the doors of opportunity wide open for those people with no respect or decency to act with impunity for a period of time. To a certain extent anyone will act inappropriately in order to survive, but looting material valuables (TV's, jewelry, etc) instead of neccessities like food or clothing clearly shows a major difference in values.

Stimpson J. Cat
05-09-2005, 08:26 AM
Never seen his jewerly, or heard is diamonds song...i refuse to watch/listen to that ****. Is his jewelry really that expensive? Like "that ring probably costs as much as a small house" kind of expensive?

Judging from the one picture that is the sum of my experience with him, I wouldn't be surprised if it's worth twice as much as the medium-sized house I live in.

The authorities were ready for the hurricane and the city got through it as well as could be expected, the real trouble didn't start until the levees failed after the hurricane had already passed. As Kapplow said, it's a flooding problem. The possibility of the leevees breaking is why the evacuation order was issued - nobody was supposed to be there anyway - so they probably underestimated the amount of food, water, etc that would be needed. I guess they didn't anticipate that half of the population would stay behind in order to take advantage of the looting opportunies.

Kapplow
06-09-2005, 12:33 AM
I agree w/the reporter, you just gotta laugh.

CitadelSamurai
06-09-2005, 04:38 AM
I looted a big ass plasma TV from my neighbour, he couldn't stop me since he was too busy drowning! I'm not a bad person though, if I had a third arm I would've rescued him.

How is that possible, given that you are in Belgium?

The Pat
06-09-2005, 10:12 AM
clearly mocking the looters argument, though looting is bad most of these looters are probly poor and have lost what litle possesions they had, given the opertunity they want to be rich again not return to what it was like before theyre living the americain dream making money and getting ahead.

Shiro7
06-09-2005, 02:05 PM
Im not the merciful type, but if people are so messed up, then let them suffer in the end. Just worry about the people trying to survive those are the ones I feel bad for, and the heap amounts of animals dying, wow humanity really only cares about themselves. Even if your trying to rescue someone, well why cant you save the animals too right? Theres nothing wrong with that.. Why doesnt the government do anything for supplies, or back up? Why when you have the power to do something, you just prolong it and do nothing? While everyone is worrying about so much about the gas prices, in 2-3 days or so they'll forget about this and just keep worrying about the stupid gas.

piggy
06-09-2005, 02:09 PM
in 2-3 days or so they'll forget about this and just keep worrying about the stupid gas.


thats because gas prices effect us directly. the hurricane (sadly to say) does not so its not as big an issue as people closer to it. those gas prices have prevented me from getting a car.

stephanie dee
06-09-2005, 09:56 PM
Those looters and sickos who are trying to take advantage of people's suffering are sick. I heard that the there have been a number of rapes and murders, and missing children... Why in a disatser of this mangnitude are people looking to rape and kill? Like in that Asian Tsunami, there were people abducting children and stuff. How goddamn sick is that? Shouldn't they be trying to help each other and all of that?? Not causing more pain and suffering then there already is. People like that deserve to be shot.

Rant over. *ahhh*

Mugu
06-09-2005, 10:27 PM
thats because gas prices effect us directly. the hurricane (sadly to say) does not so its not as big an issue as people closer to it. those gas prices have prevented me from getting a car.

It is sadly true, I'm actually thinking of getting rid of my car and get a bicycle, you can have my car if you want (exchange for 2k of course) :p Everything is getting expensive... last night on the news they said tires are going to cost more because of gas price. Let's just say everything will get more expensive day by day unless they figure out cheap hydrogen cars for everybody... then again, why would they? They're making good money right now

kendonewbie
07-09-2005, 05:08 AM
Cops looting a Wal-Mart. Caught on video. (http://www.zippyvideos.com/8911023771013466/countdown?looting_in_walmart)
That actually came up today in my criminal justice class. Pretty much..it represented a decline/collapse in law & order in New Orleans....and that the 2 cops who were caught looting should "be made examples of..."

Kapplow
07-09-2005, 06:59 AM
That actually came up today in my criminal justice class. Pretty much..it represented a decline/collapse in law & order in New Orleans....and that the 2 cops who were caught looting should "be made examples of..."

dude your sig is awesome

kendonewbie
07-09-2005, 08:50 AM
oh, thank you :)

piggy
07-09-2005, 09:55 AM
It is sadly true, I'm actually thinking of getting rid of my car and get a bicycle, you can have my car if you want (exchange for 2k of course) :p Everything is getting expensive... last night on the news they said tires are going to cost more because of gas price. Let's just say everything will get more expensive day by day unless they figure out cheap hydrogen cars for everybody... then again, why would they? They're making good money right now


i have to combat gas prices by carpooling my friends and we all pay a share. the problem with hydrogen cars is that they're very expensive to buy and maintain. not only that, but by driving a hydrogen car, you loose power and coolness.

and i already found a car i want. its a beater that i'm getting for 400$ strictly for trips to the dojo. thanks though!!!

kendonewbie
07-09-2005, 11:12 AM
What about those...ah..alternate energy cars? I remember reading an article about how a guy had a car that ran off oil...which he got from a local potato chip company for FREE!

Shiro7
07-09-2005, 11:43 AM
well people shouldnt complain on the range of gas prices, because some parts of the world like europe has the same gas price as the raised one. Plus Gas isnt a renewable resource, so in the long run we'd have to increase prices more and more to preserve gas til someone actually has a solar powered car or something..well when we get to that...