That hachi dan sensei did it once more!

[misterkurukuru]

Our friend the great hachidan sensei(no fumikomi) has taught all of his students to do right handed yoko mens! It hurts a lot because most of them suck and miss the men. I will go To there Dojo and bust the dojo yaburi on them! Anyways, has anyone practiced with someone that uses migi yoko men a lot? if so who is teaching it to them?

[alexpollijr]

Dangerous thing. I personally think that yokomen is much more dangerous than tsuki.

The only people I've seen doing yokomen down here are old sensei, and only hidari-te. They always hit the right spot.

[Inouye02]

ahhh mr kurukuru, welcome back..been awhile since we did keiko ..lol will you be coming back to the states from zimbabwe?

anyways i was doing keiko and did a hiki men from tsubazeriai, the student did a men block and hit my migi kote..wasn't very accurate.. he did it !! should i expect to see you sometime soon ?...

[mrikuiku]

hey venice kendo , i think i will be joining my brother and coming also...favorite hachidan sensei ? i must meet you too ..

[M.K. Kawai]

Nope. I've only seen pictures in some kendo books about it. Although my sensei once saw the late great Mori Sensei pull off a hidari yoko men then throw the shinai to the other hand and do a migi yoko men.

Maybe if I have time, I'll see if I can learn it. That's if I have time:D

Besides people know my thoughts about tsuki... IMHO that's more dangerous than migi yoko men. But I digress....

MKK

[Inouye02]

kello m.k. kawai

[Inouye02]

ooops my bad ..Hello*

[misterkurukuru]

hey my Brother Iku chan we still need to go hunt down some lions for dinner!

[M.K. Kawai]

Hi Inouye,

Welcome to the Kendo World Forum. :D

MKK

[Inouye02]

hachi no waza ? this was explained from our favorite hachidan sensei, do you know that one kurukuru ? or has anyone ever heard that one before

[misterkurukuru]

bee waza??? float like a butterfly sting like a bee??

[M.K. Kawai]

Never heard of it:(

Is that a Nito move?;)

MKK

[Inouye02]

itto or nito, it has something to do with the positioning of the feet after a yoko men , migi kote ,etc ...

kawai sensei i'll show you the move when i see ya

[misterkurukuru]

hahah i love that move! i dont think velveta would try it out on any of us though!

[Raígma]

Could you please tell me why Yoko Men is dangerous?
I´ve never practiced it. All the pictures I have seen show a one handed men.
Where is the danger?

[Inouye02]

when you go for yokomen, where are you supposed to strike? and if you miss and crush someones ear , now figure it out

[samurai999]

Originally posted by Raú„ma
Could you please tell me why Yoko Men is dangerous?
I´ve never practiced it. All the pictures I have seen show a one handed men.
Where is the danger?

Inouye2 explained it good.. It crushes your ear and one more thing. It can blow out your eardrum.

Scientifically speaking, you smack the side of the men and not only makes a big "thwack" sound, it "pushes" air into your ear at a very high rate of speed. Sometimes, the pressure created is so great that it pops your eardrum.

I've had near misses and even with that, I've had that "pressurized" sensation stay with my ear for 2 days...

Tim

[Neil Gendzwill]

You guys are describing an illegal attack. Raizma, a legal yokomen is one that strikes above the men-himo. These guys have probably had the experience of practising with some older people who throw katate-yoko-men completely sideways and just about take your head off at ear-level. I know I have :) So they're understandably worried about off-target yokomen. But you can legitimately hit it.

It's a tough point to get clean though. Here's an exercise you can try: practice kiri-kaeshi without motodachi blocking. You should be hitting the men with each cut, and the saiumen should all contact yokomen (above the men-himo). What percentage of yoko-men do you hit cleanly and solidly without sliding off or missing altogether? Pretty low I'd wager. Straight men is a safer, higher percentage shot by far.

[Inouye02]

i won't say illegal attack, but if your not used to doing yokomen, don't just do it out of the blue, most dojo's have a striking dummy practice on it first ..

[Raígma]

I don't intend to do it until my sensei thinks that I am so far.
Thanks for the explanation anyway.
I didn't think that people strike so low. Now I see the point.

[Inouye02]

practice with your sensei under a controlled setting , do alot of left handed suburi , dont be in a rush to use it ,,