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Confound
12th April 2003, 07:16 PM
In Mingshi's thread (http://www.kendo-world.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=850) about injuries, medicine and other exciting things that keep you awake at night worrying about the condition of your body, there was some talk about sprung floors. Anyone have detailled knowledge about the mechanics? Yes, I'm aware that they're wooden planks spread over a frame, but a bit more detail would be appreciated.

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titus
13th April 2003, 09:37 AM
The following link shows two different ways to do it, under the headings "double sprung support" and "resilient pad sprung support." The first way, double sprung, is better because it can withstand more load and distribute it more evenly.

http://oak.arch.utas.edu.au/tech/construction_details/2_03_2.htm

This link has a picture on the right with some basketball guys, the cutaway shows another variation of the "double sprung" system.

http://www.aspen.com.tr/ing_tarkettsommer.html

Confound
14th April 2003, 01:10 PM
Excellent. Thanks, Titus.
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Old Warrior
14th April 2003, 11:49 PM
All I can say is thanks to Titus, I now know what I am missing. We have a beautiful wood floorin our dojang, but it is laid on cement and my poor old knees could really benefit from a sprung floor.

titus
15th April 2003, 04:37 AM
Believe me, I feel your pain :) My knees and ankles kill sometimes.

I had the same problem with my lunges in western fencing until I got some Adidas Assymetrics. I never realised how truly awesome those shoes are until I did similar lunges in kendo...with bare feet...and more bodyweight on the front foot....on the same "1mm of wood on concrete" floor :(

Random weird fact: the University of New South Wales kendo club has two rooms they can practice in, right beside each other, and they use the one that does NOT have the sprung floor. This makes no sense to me, except that the one they use is a bit bigger and wood flooring, whereas the sprung floor room has more of a dancing floor surface (seems irrelevant to me). Perhaps someone in Australia who's been to UNSW UniGym could fill me in here?

enpointe
9th October 2003, 07:05 AM
there is another product that you may not be aware of. We make a sprung floor up here in Canada (and can ship to US locations cheaply). IT uses soft rubber cusions (32) underneath 4' by 4' panels and are attached with a aluminum spline & edging to hold the entire surface together.

more info is at www.en-pointe.com

andy lucas
en pointe ent.

Neil Gendzwill
9th October 2003, 07:25 AM
Cool. The website doesn't list prices - what does it go for per square foot in Canada?

enpointe
10th October 2003, 12:35 AM
Cool. The website doesn't list prices - what does it go for per square foot in Canada?

we can do individual quotes specifically tailored for your studio. Most of our clients are American so we do quote in US prices. $8.00 USD per square foot. Pricey but actually much lower than our competition, and teh floor is easily transfered & adapted for different spaces (ie when your club moves to a l;arger facility). If you are interedted we'll send out samples of eth floor and formal quotes including quite reasonable shipping.

andy

Neil Gendzwill
10th October 2003, 12:48 AM
We're happy where we are, thanks. But a few years ago I was considering renting some warehouse space, and your product would have been a good solution for a rental facility with a concrete floor. I'd have to do the math on what it would cost for a sprung sub-floor and a laminate surface but I'm suspecting you're cheaper. Easier, too.

enpointe
10th October 2003, 12:54 AM
We're happy where we are, thanks. But a few years ago I was considering renting some warehouse space, and your product would have been a good solution for a rental facility with a concrete floor. I'd have to do the math on what it would cost for a sprung sub-floor and a laminate surface but I'm suspecting you're cheaper. Easier, too.

don't forget faster!

Neil Gendzwill
10th October 2003, 02:17 AM
So if I understand you, you guys are cheap, easy and fast? Just checking...

enpointe
10th October 2003, 03:23 AM
So if I understand you, you guys are cheap, easy and fast? Just checking...

well... we're not that fast. 2-3 weeks to make the floor.

slidercrank
10th October 2003, 04:12 AM
Hi enpointe:

In case you might not have noticed it, I sent you a private message. Please check. Thanks.

enpointe
10th October 2003, 04:27 AM
Hi enpointe:

In case you might not have noticed it, I sent you a private message. Please check. Thanks.

got it.

THX

etherknot
10th October 2003, 06:35 AM
We are fairly lucky in our city to be able to use a hall used for dancing for one practice a week. I am pretty sure it's sprung. I think you'd be able to tell wether or not the floor is set up in such a way if you have been practicing on one and go away to a place where it is concrete underneath.


That flooring product you mentioned sounds really cool. I had mulled over the idea of setting something up should I ever say, win the lottery or something :)

enpointe
10th October 2003, 07:06 AM
We are fairly lucky in our city to be able to use a hall used for dancing for one practice a week. I am pretty sure it's sprung. I think you'd be able to tell wether or not the floor is set up in such a way if you have been practicing on one and go away to a place where it is concrete underneath.


That flooring product you mentioned sounds really cool. I had mulled over the idea of setting something up should I ever say, win the lottery or something :)

if you do I'm sure sprung flooring will be on your list just after ferrari.