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  • How do you score your points?

    When you're at a shiai, what do you score the most points off of? (Like Men, Kote, Do or Tsuki)


    Personally I prefer to go for the Do. I've scored a few points that way and I like it because most people go for something else like kote.

  • #2
    At the last taikai, I did a calculation after words and here's the statistics of my points. ~ 40% kote uchi, 40% doh uchi, and 20% men uchi.

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    • #3
      The last one I went in was 50% kote / men. I tried dou and tsuki once or twice, but it didn't score (grrr) so I didn't bother with them much. Mostly in shiai its that way.

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      • #4
        100% men in the last shiai I did, halfish of them hiki men. In fact exactly half 'coz I only scored 2 points that day

        Last time I scored dou was over 15 years ago!! Never tried tsuki as only a few ever strike successfully in training.

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        • #5
          Mine was 100% men (6-forward men, mostly debana-waza). "-_-
          Last edited by KenShi_JoB; 12th June 2005, 07:00 AM.

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          • #6
            Probably about 25% kote, 75% men.

            Jakob

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            • #7
              100% hansoku. something like five half-points in three shiai; fourish by backing the opponent out, one by landing him on his back.

              i used to be such a nice young man.
              Last edited by ginger_justice; 12th June 2005, 11:58 AM.

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              • #8
                I haven't scored many points (5 or 6) in shiai and all of them have been men. I don't count hansoku as scoring.

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                • #9
                  Yeha I don't really count Hanoku as scoring either. The only time I REALLY try to take advantage of hansoku is if I know the person is more skilled but smaller and easier to push out, I've scored a point in this fashion. Kinda ashamed because the girl was right on the line and I gave a sharp push on the tsuba and she flew like five feet out of the ring.

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                  • #10
                    I don't think I've ever scored with hansoku... I usually score with kote I think...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NorthernKendoka
                      I don't count hansoku as scoring.
                      whilst i agree hansoku's a less-than-lovely way of earning one's dinner, i never considered lying down the shiaijo particularly good form, either. the ability to stand up would seem to be a fairly basic element of kendo. that's why we spend all that time on solid footwork...

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                      • #12
                        100% kote men...

                        i dno why, but i've never scored a men on its own, or a kote on its own, all 5 times its been kote-men nidan waza...

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                        • #13
                          Doh!

                          The last tournament I competed and watched, almost nobody scored with do...whilst debana kote was given quite regularly. Is it significantly harder trying to score with do? I noticed some dan players didn't even bother attempting do.

                          This is from a beginner's observations...

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                          • #14
                            at the watchet seminar in the UK a few weeks ago, o'sullivan-sensei pointed out that the vast majority of points in shiai come from kote, with a decidedly smaller number of cuts to men. he said that dos are pretty rare, and tsukis even more so.

                            as i understood it, one of the main factors in this is the question of separation; people don't get far enough away fast enough after do cuts, so even a good, cleanly-targetted cut more often than not ends up being cancelled out by a lack of clear water between cutter and cuttee.

                            someone correct me if i'm wrong on that, watchet seems an awfully long time ago.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ginger_justice
                              at the watchet seminar in the UK a few weeks ago, o'sullivan-sensei pointed out that the vast majority of points in shiai come from kote, with a decidedly smaller number of cuts to men.
                              I don't think this is necessarily true... I've done score keeping for the world championship, the bowden, and plenty of student matches in japan, and I can't say that I've noticed this as a general trend.

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