I belive there were hitokiri (assassin) before and during the Bakamatsu in Japan. Anybody know if they exist today?
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I belive there were hitokiri (assassin) before and during the Bakamatsu in Japan. Anybody know if they exist today?
Actually, yes they do...but they're not very good because they're on tv all the time...you might have seen them, ever heard of such cartoons as "Rurouni Kenshin" and stuff..?
Izint dare some Anime forumz dat youz can visitz?????? Maybez youz can daydreamz wid da odda cosplay & anime dorkz...
Actually I heard they're recruiting in Connecticut right now...
You have to be willing to give up your normal everyday life and they will fly you to Japan and train you in the secret art of the reverse blade katana. :laugh:
But the most important question they ask you is : have anyone seen your face yet?
... wow you guys really enjoy mocking me, dont you? I read about Hitkoiris in a history book at school. -.-x is there a problem with liking the history of Japan? lol ^^x'
Times change, so I doubt there is a place in today's society for assassins. I'm sure most people assume this. The only other name for an "assassin" today would be mafia guy or thug. I'm sure that's why your post is not being taken seriously.
Hitokiri is just a word for assassin, there wasn't an assassin class or something. I think they were just samurai ordered to kill someone, nothing more.
And don't start talking about ninja, I have a bad feeling about it..... :D
Ninja ? I like the sound of that , lets get the thread going :ermm:
ninjas lose to samurais :smoker:
I believe that organizations like the CIA, Mossad etc, runs that sort of "biznizz". The infamous swedish säpo probably would if they could only find their way out of eachothers bottoms first (maybe slighty unfair but... nah!)Quote:
Originally Posted by nodachi
Maybe they are not always as "stealthy" as you expect an assassin to be but that's just splitting hairs.
Yep you got it right Baka-matsuQuote:
Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura
I didn't even notice that one :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hyaku
Every counrty that has a modern military has some form of 'assassin' whether they are defined as an arm of the state intelligence gathering agency or a specialized unit of that nations military. As Japan had limitations placed upon it's military by the Allied powers in WWII I doubt that they have such a thing now. (unless the US has turned a blind eye twoards it's formation) I have read that some yakuza gangs have specially trained members that specialize in killing rivial mob bosses but most information regarding the yakuza is questionable at best. From a military history perspective I would say you posed an interesting question Kenshin.
obviously referring to the Stupid Pine Tree:smiley:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyaku
actually yes their were hitokiri, although probably frowned upon, ur favorite character kenshin was based off of kawaki gensai, who at first glance could mistaken for being a woman. gensai was one of the four great hitokiri, he was known for killing the idealist named Sakuma Shozan in one swing, he developed his own style called Shiranui ryu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenshin Himura
cool. thanks for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZrJn89
(Smileing) Being a Hitokiri in this age will never do you any good bullets have taken the wave. Dont live in the past it will never work out theres always a tragedy.
Hitokiri means "assasin". As it is. No glamour nor something like a noble title and stuff. So, if you ask if they exist today?, yes!, in fact there's a whole industry for it out there. Drug cartels, the yakuza clans, any semi-organized mafia, the military and even some not-so-clean goverment agencies from (pick your favorite country) use assasins today. But, as hitokiri used katanas during the Bakumatsu, today's assasins use a complete array of modern weaponry such as hand guns, submachine guns, grenades, etc. Ok, the always-trustable combat knife is still in use, but that from using a katana as your main "assasin" weapon is a far statement. As JimB stated, there's a lot gossip around yakuza's ways and methods, but many of 'em are plain myth, due in part to the mixture of fear and respect some japanese have to these underground groups.
From my tactical point of view, a sword-wielding assasin would work only as a stealth single-target infiltrating assasin, for he would very hardly be a match against a 3-4 fire-armed bodyguard bunch and taking over a moving car (modern "assasinable" people hardly walk, and even less in dark alleys like those in the Bakumatsu Kyoto, u know?). Then again, a silenced gun would do the same job :wink:
I didnt say I wanted to be an assassin I just asked about asassins that I did. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawnix Heosphe
Yes. There are still existing hitokiris waiting for their next victim. actually I'm one of them and I've been dying to tell it to another soul who is already dead because I have to kill him cause he knew my secret. Do you still want to know?
lol BS I really bought hitokiri exist today. Theres probobly just places that train you to know stuff like them.Quote:
Originally Posted by munenmuso
Fine, tell us Mr. hitokiri. lol
Hitokiri is just a word for assassin, don't you get it? There is nothing mystical about them, they were just samurai sent out to kill someone...... and I know, you're only 14 and you have the right to dream, but don't dream about fake mysticism and stuff :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakabatou
I love Kenshin, but when I read your posts I sometimes wish it never existed........
lol I wasnt sure if Hitokiri were more like ninjas or samurais just doing assassinations... There is a big difference between the 2 I think.
I wasnt even referring to anything about Kenshin in this post, 99% of the time I use the word hitokiri when saying assassin.
... hm.. I wonder when Ali G is going to show up and comment on me about making some hedgetrimmer style. i think he's stalking me oO all he does is find my posts and makes rude comments. what can I do? Eh, just ignore him. I dont know why he's stalking my posts. lol I don't think he even reads them. Only the old ones where I had a different opinion.
Lol, I think sakabatou missed the point about the telling of his secret thing. Reminds me of my younger brother (fantasizing, always asking what if questions- constantly!, ...never shuts up).
I know what you ment, and don't assume words Sakabatou.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakabatou
Telling of secret thing wha???Quote:
Originally Posted by Caleb
Yes I agree, Ever since this rurouni thing came out thats all my son watch's and he asks me if I can perform the wazas Now I know hes only 12 but the show ruins all points and morals of the art Kendo. It does'nt teach anything that deals with any art. super speed, techniques that crack the ground, weird names and things that can't even be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiro
But anyway I think there are no more Hitokiri just those that wish to dream about it and never really killing anyone. Because Munenmuso if you are one you of all others would know that you won't hesitate to kill anyone wich I know you can never do.
it's a good ANIME! anime is for entertainment! :cheerful:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnix Heosphe
Many of the strikes in kenshin are actually real believe it or not (okay not the fatasy stuff of ground breaking etc) but kenshin is based on a real style (batoujutsu <sic>). It has less to do with kendo and alot more to do with iaijutsu though.
Actually what Kenshin does... well.. most of them are just simple things anybody can do or counter. They just make kenshin look like some superman guy and crap. lol Ahh he does is strike alot, and jump and slash. lol
Even if the strikes are correct Kenshin is still only an anime/manga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleda
Don't forget, Kenshin fights, the techniques might be well used but might be of poor quality if you judge them by Iaido-forms for example.
I really enjoy Kenshin and it's really understandable that it sparks intrest for Iaido or Kenjutsu but if you want to learn those arts you should NOT think about Kenshin and just do what your sensei tells you to do.
True. I mean he even tells his opponents the name of the attack he's going to do so when he does it they kinda know what he's doing.. I don't think anybody could really be a copy of Kenshin because its fantasy.. nobosy should really belive that then can make kenshin whatever REAL... maybe close, maybe simalar, but not exact. (wow I'm contradicting everything I said my first day here. lol)
Maybe we should have an anime-tards forum solely for discussing the damn cartoon?
you mean like this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yowai
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whats the difference between hitokiri and ninja therr both assasins arnt they??
Hitokiri are samurai assassins I belive... And ninja are.. well, what else? Ninja. lol
If a samurai did something illegal, wouldn't he have to commit sepuku? Just wondering. Im not all that informed on "bushido" and the ways japan worked back then, except the shogun and the daito stuff. Enunciation porfavor?
"LOL" ":D" ":)" Why? Why is it always "lolz"?
er not quite.... a ninja could be a samurai actuly most were samurai it was very rare to see one that was not of samurai breed...but origanaly nija was a term for a mercenary...and then people got confused b/c people thought nija were shinobis.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sakabatou